<!--QuoteBegin-Quaunaut+Oct 2 2004, 10:58 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Quaunaut @ Oct 2 2004, 10:58 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Just to let ya'll know: HL2's code is actually unlimited. You can have several thousand if you've got the power in the server/code. Just saying. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> NS the MMORPG? <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo-->
Then the marines would have starfighters and heavy tanks to roll over the Kharaa too woo. Since the TSA focuses on small unit tactics that are extremely cost effective, the marines here could be the government and corporation armies that were utterly annihilated in the first few months of the infestations.
It's funny how that this post has skeptics with replies like, "no way, server couldn't manage that... not even in the future." The fact that we went from Atari Pong to Half-life 2 in what, less than 50 years... that's pretty incredible. And Sony is already trying to develop to controllers for PS3 that will measure your heartrate so online opponents could hear your breathing so they can have an easier time locating you. Give it another 30 years, 400 man servers supporting large maps will be a joke.
512 is better than youd think... in call of duty i played on 60 man servers and got a 30 - 50 ping =D
diff game, but just saying. and now the general public can get 1mb and 2mb quite easily if we are willing to pay, just give it a few years until most people are on 512k and 1mb instead of 56k, and by that time servers will be a hell of a lot more powerfull, so 200 man servers running quite smoothly aint that far off
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....Why is everyone assuming that NS on source would be EXACTLY the same as NS is currently? Jesus think out of the box sometimes, don't post retarded things that may or may not be an issue (Do you really think the current res system would be used for ONE HUNDRED ALIENS? Come on).
<!--QuoteBegin-TheAdj`+Oct 3 2004, 12:25 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (TheAdj` @ Oct 3 2004, 12:25 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> 100 marines as commander is perfectly managable as long as res scales with the player count. I handle the 15 players in the max size pubs just fine, I dont think 100 would be much different. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> Haha.
I can imagine you getting spammed 500 orders all at once for people asking for RT's <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo-->
To be honest, I just want to see a few Marines in some vehicle or other, driving along. Then I want to see an Onos charge it from one side. And flip it over. And the Marines go flying.
and yeah about the com getting spammed wiht messages... hmm yeah that could be a problem hehehe, that would have to be sorted out... heres my idiea
> more than one com.
you could have up to a max of say 10 coms, each could be able to do different things, some work on rt's, some work on supplying medpacks, ammo, weapons etc, some on building the other buildings. just an idea =P
actully a this might be a better idea... have the map split up into different sections, and there is a com im command of each bit. this means that that com can only build structures in that section, and if a marine is in that area and asks for a medpack/ammo/rt, then only that com will see the message
I almost got sent to the local mourge reading that, good case of over-exposior to laughter. Although.... If the Marines get viecles, Aliens will need lvl 50000000000000000000000000000000000000000 celerity for a skulk :S. Then theres the hive sight.... SOOOOOOOOOOOOO crammed. Starts wondering where war music is coming from, and "GREAT WALLS OF LAME". Sea tankers <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/smile-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile-fix.gif' /><!--endemo--> The amount of +1 Resource would drive a man insane
<!--QuoteBegin-IBT+Oct 4 2004, 01:41 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (IBT @ Oct 4 2004, 01:41 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> the max players of any server should be 30, 15 rines, 15 ailens. no higher. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> /me sets max players on his server to... 30... DECIMAL FIVE!
As someone has already stated, think outside the box. More than 3/4ths of the people on this thread have already proven that they should have no say in the development of a video game, or anything for that matter. Instead of going with the idea of this topic and supporting it with possibilities, so many of you are busy thinking of what could go wrong. To every problem there is a solution. You can't hault progress because of fear of what might go wrong. In society there are people who push the envelope and those who sit back and watch. Which do you want to be? There is no love in fear.
<!--QuoteBegin-mirrodin+Oct 2 2004, 06:07 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (mirrodin @ Oct 2 2004, 06:07 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Anyway, this would be cool/amazing but I'm actually looking forward to CS:S and DoD:S more than NS:S. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> Pff. I hate CS. Stupid arse game.
in order: NS:S TFC:S DoD:S
NS on HL2 engine = addictive as hell
back on topic:
Anyways I've done a 64 person TFC server. Very fun.
<!--QuoteBegin-miniman227+Oct 4 2004, 07:16 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (miniman227 @ Oct 4 2004, 07:16 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> I almost got sent to the local mourge reading that, good case of over-exposior to laughter. Although.... If the Marines get viecles, Aliens will need lvl 50000000000000000000000000000000000000000 celerity for a skulk :S. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> What is that like Warp 12 or something? <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo--> LoL!
No if marines get vehicles aliens will get queens. Simple.
<!--QuoteBegin-Funkatron+Oct 4 2004, 03:04 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Funkatron @ Oct 4 2004, 03:04 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> As someone has already stated, think outside the box. More than 3/4ths of the people on this thread have already proven that they should have no say in the development of a video game, or anything for that matter. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> Seriously. Do you people actually think they'd just directly port the entire game from the half-life engine to Source, and expect huge server games to automatically work? Of course not. I'd be frickin dissapointed if they did that, because that means that they didn't explore the design space the new engine gave them. The res system, evolution system, hive system, chamber system, upgrade system, hell probably even the commander system would all be revamped COMPLETELY if the devs wanted NS2 to use 100-200 player servers. Saying that it can't be done, or that you'd need like 200 res towers on every map is simply retarded. Worst case scenario, they just boost the number of tics/second for giving res, but I'm sure there are dozens of more elegant solutions possible. For example, no more individual res towers, instead entire res complexes are built over crater-sized geysers of various natural resources, indeed maybe *gasp* more than one kind of resource. Rip off of Starcraft? No, not really, unless every other RTS game ever created is also a rip off....
Yeah, release your imagination! <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/smile-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->
Alien1: Inc Jeep with 2 rines, Im onos so Ill get em Alien2: FORGET THE JEEP, WALKER IN HIVE!!! <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/biggrin-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin-fix.gif' /><!--endemo--> This thread is for not saying the problems, but imagining the perfect NS....
<!--QuoteBegin-Alkiller+Oct 4 2004, 01:59 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Alkiller @ Oct 4 2004, 01:59 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-IBT+Oct 4 2004, 01:41 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (IBT @ Oct 4 2004, 01:41 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> the max players of any server should be 30, 15 rines, 15 ailens. no higher. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> /me sets max players on his server to... 30... DECIMAL FIVE! <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> you, *******!!!! how can there be .25 of a player playing, cut off 7 of his fingers?
back onn, as somebody else said, TSA marines are trained to be in small squads no bigger than 15, and due to the skulks problem with the SKY texture (its the fact that he can walk on sunshine, upside down) make it impossable for outdoor enviroments, as for an indoor enviroment, think this, why did BF1942 not have much in there houses? its because its an outdoor fighting game, stressing outdoor, if your gonna make a huge indoor comples, your gonna need a lot more than a bed and desk in every so odd room, infestation, also counters this idea, as for veachles, unless you get this tiny go-cart in there, its a highly unlikely thing. ehum, i dont think it will happen, the current maps are just too small, and makeing a large comples, it just too much.
and while im goin off topic, YAY my mouse pad is here, HEIL TSA!!! so perdy...
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edited October 2004
<!--QuoteBegin-IBT+Oct 4 2004, 03:50 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (IBT @ Oct 4 2004, 03:50 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-Alkiller+Oct 4 2004, 01:59 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Alkiller @ Oct 4 2004, 01:59 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-IBT+Oct 4 2004, 01:41 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (IBT @ Oct 4 2004, 01:41 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> the max players of any server should be 30, 15 rines, 15 ailens. no higher. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> /me sets max players on his server to... 30... DECIMAL FIVE! <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> you, *******!!!! how can there be .25 of a player playing, cut off 7 of his fingers?
back onn, as somebody else said, TSA marines are trained to be in small squads no bigger than 15, and due to the skulks problem with the SKY texture (its the fact that he can walk on sunshine, upside down) make it impossable for outdoor enviroments, as for an indoor enviroment, think this, why did BF1942 not have much in there houses? its because its an outdoor fighting game, stressing outdoor, if your gonna make a huge indoor comples, your gonna need a lot more than a bed and desk in every so odd room, infestation, also counters this idea, as for veachles, unless you get this tiny go-cart in there, its a highly unlikely thing. ehum, i dont think it will happen, the current maps are just too small, and makeing a large comples, it just too much.
and while im goin off topic, YAY my mouse pad is here, HEIL TSA!!! so perdy... <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> solution: either HL2's skybox system wont allow walking on it, or *gasp* disable wallwalking on sky texture
:edit: and im sure that in the case of a planetary battle, the TSA would send in more than 15 people
Alien1: Inc Jeep with 2 rines, Im onos so Ill get em Alien2: FORGET THE JEEP, WALKER IN HIVE!!! <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/biggrin-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin-fix.gif' /><!--endemo--> This thread is for not saying the problems, but imagining the perfect NS.... <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> Ah so like:
Omg noob you got the drop ship stuck!? WTH?!?! I swear we are never going to let you piolet again!
OR
Woot I finally got warhog in the hive! *Onos charges in, flips over jeep* Noo! I dont' wanna be eaten *stomp & chomp* ****!
OR
Omg! Why did you destroy all of the vehicles! Now they are going to rush us!
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NS the MMORPG? <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo-->
Planetside?
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512 is better than youd think... in call of duty i played on 60 man servers and got a 30 - 50 ping =D
diff game, but just saying. and now the general public can get 1mb and 2mb quite easily if we are willing to pay, just give it a few years until most people are on 512k and 1mb instead of 56k, and by that time servers will be a hell of a lot more powerfull, so 200 man servers running quite smoothly aint that far off
It would work better for combat.......let the flames begin.
Note: I hate combat
Haha.
I can imagine you getting spammed 500 orders all at once for people asking for RT's <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo-->
Then, I will be prepared for the afterlife.
and yeah about the com getting spammed wiht messages... hmm yeah that could be a problem hehehe, that would have to be sorted out... heres my idiea
> more than one com.
you could have up to a max of say 10 coms, each could be able to do different things, some work on rt's, some work on supplying medpacks, ammo, weapons etc, some on building the other buildings. just an idea =P
like 200?
lol?
cap till death?
not just ns..
think about cs...
how big the map would need to be...
and how many campers...lol?
Then theres the hive sight.... SOOOOOOOOOOOOO crammed. Starts wondering where war music is coming from, and "GREAT WALLS OF LAME". Sea tankers <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/smile-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile-fix.gif' /><!--endemo--> The amount of +1 Resource would drive a man insane
Hmm i think i'm in a good mood....
I like.. I like lots
/me sets max players on his server to... 30... DECIMAL FIVE!
Pff. I hate CS. Stupid arse game.
in order:
NS:S
TFC:S
DoD:S
NS on HL2 engine = addictive as hell
back on topic:
Anyways I've done a 64 person TFC server. Very fun.
What is that like Warp 12 or something? <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo--> LoL!
No if marines get vehicles aliens will get queens. Simple.
Seriously. Do you people actually think they'd just directly port the entire game from the half-life engine to Source, and expect huge server games to automatically work? Of course not. I'd be frickin dissapointed if they did that, because that means that they didn't explore the design space the new engine gave them. The res system, evolution system, hive system, chamber system, upgrade system, hell probably even the commander system would all be revamped COMPLETELY if the devs wanted NS2 to use 100-200 player servers. Saying that it can't be done, or that you'd need like 200 res towers on every map is simply retarded. Worst case scenario, they just boost the number of tics/second for giving res, but I'm sure there are dozens of more elegant solutions possible. For example, no more individual res towers, instead entire res complexes are built over crater-sized geysers of various natural resources, indeed maybe *gasp* more than one kind of resource. Rip off of Starcraft? No, not really, unless every other RTS game ever created is also a rip off....
im sure starcraft took it from somewhere else too. unless.....
can someone with good knowlege of video game history confirm what RTS was the first to implement multiple resources?
Alien1: Inc Jeep with 2 rines, Im onos so Ill get em
Alien2: FORGET THE JEEP, WALKER IN HIVE!!!
<!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/biggrin-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->
This thread is for not saying the problems, but imagining the perfect NS....
/me sets max players on his server to... 30... DECIMAL FIVE! <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
you, *******!!!! how can there be .25 of a player playing, cut off 7 of his fingers?
back onn, as somebody else said, TSA marines are trained to be in small squads no bigger than 15, and due to the skulks problem with the SKY texture (its the fact that he can walk on sunshine, upside down) make it impossable for outdoor enviroments, as for an indoor enviroment, think this, why did BF1942 not have much in there houses? its because its an outdoor fighting game, stressing outdoor, if your gonna make a huge indoor comples, your gonna need a lot more than a bed and desk in every so odd room, infestation, also counters this idea, as for veachles, unless you get this tiny go-cart in there, its a highly unlikely thing.
ehum, i dont think it will happen, the current maps are just too small, and makeing a large comples, it just too much.
and while im goin off topic, YAY my mouse pad is here, HEIL TSA!!!
so perdy...
/me sets max players on his server to... 30... DECIMAL FIVE! <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
you, *******!!!! how can there be .25 of a player playing, cut off 7 of his fingers?
back onn, as somebody else said, TSA marines are trained to be in small squads no bigger than 15, and due to the skulks problem with the SKY texture (its the fact that he can walk on sunshine, upside down) make it impossable for outdoor enviroments, as for an indoor enviroment, think this, why did BF1942 not have much in there houses? its because its an outdoor fighting game, stressing outdoor, if your gonna make a huge indoor comples, your gonna need a lot more than a bed and desk in every so odd room, infestation, also counters this idea, as for veachles, unless you get this tiny go-cart in there, its a highly unlikely thing.
ehum, i dont think it will happen, the current maps are just too small, and makeing a large comples, it just too much.
and while im goin off topic, YAY my mouse pad is here, HEIL TSA!!!
so perdy... <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
solution: either HL2's skybox system wont allow walking on it, or *gasp* disable wallwalking on sky texture
:edit: and im sure that in the case of a planetary battle, the TSA would send in more than 15 people
remember, NS2 will be the war
then maybe the player would play as trained army men instead of marines, no big deal, your still a human ;/
Alien1: Inc Jeep with 2 rines, Im onos so Ill get em
Alien2: FORGET THE JEEP, WALKER IN HIVE!!!
<!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/biggrin-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->
This thread is for not saying the problems, but imagining the perfect NS.... <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
Ah so like:
Omg noob you got the drop ship stuck!? WTH?!?! I swear we are never going to let you piolet again!
OR
Woot I finally got warhog in the hive!
*Onos charges in, flips over jeep*
Noo! I dont' wanna be eaten
*stomp & chomp*
****!
OR
Omg! Why did you destroy all of the vehicles! Now they are going to rush us!