Talesins Chibi Dance.

Wheeee · October 2004

yeah, it's a steroid.

Gwahir · October 2004

if you claim that the addition of impersonal knowledge to your brain changes your personality, fine... but I'll have to disagree with you.

marce · October 2004

I thought testosterone was the male counterpart of oestrogen (or estrogen, depending on which country you are in).

androgynous comes from two greek words "aner/andros" meaning 'man' and "gune/gunaikos" meaning woman. The u in greek often gets latinized to a y.

god damn greek looks crap when you transliterate it. so:

ό άνδρος / ό άνερ

ή γυνή / ή γυναικός

if anyone here speaks greek please forgive my: breathings, accents and the fact that it isn't modern greek.

EDIT: I forgot the point of my posting the etymology of the word =(

testosterone is an androgen.

gen doesn't mean gyn, so an androgen comes from andros and gignomai/gevomen (the verb to become), as opposed to being related to gun/gyn and being man/woman as androgynous is.

Gwahir · October 2004

yeah, figured that definition on dictionary.com didn't mean what I want but I couldn't think of the correct spelling so I went with it anyway.

RaVe · October 2004

Holy crap. I found something freaky...

The fellow in the flash looks strangely too much like Gojyo from Gensomaden Saiyuki....hell the clothes even look like something he would wear o_O;

Now I'm scared....and scarred.

Scribbles · October 2004

<b>MAYA HEEE</b>

<span style='color:white'>Re-read the rules, special emphasis on the use of bold and colors.</span>

Snidely · October 2004

</div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Mantrid @ Oct 13 2004, 11:46 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> Thinking of situations from both a masculine and feminine perspectives give you a fairer assesment and help you make better choices.  </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> 
What is a masculine or feminine perspective, anyway? In what ways are they different? I just assume that, hormones and certain physical stuff aside, they're more or less the same.

(I'm not challenging you here, I'm just curious.)

Geminosity · October 2004

Wow... a whole topic on gender and I wasn't involved... what's the world coming to? <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' />

Cold_NiTe · October 2004

Ok so as I understand it;

Androgen is a type of enzyme, a steroid in fact, that is circulated through the male body.

Testosterone is just a specific type of androgen.

Estrogen is the type of enzyme circulated in the female body.

However, both male and female counterparts have both enzymes, just one more than the other in a fixed ratio. This must remain homeostatic to prevent ill effects. So a guy would have both, just more Androgen than Estrogen. And for a girl the opposite would be true.

Also, Androgynous != Androgen. The first greek root is the same but the second is not. So they don't have that relation. Androgynous = Root for Man in greek & Root for Woman in greek. Androgen = Root for Man in greek and something else.

EDIT: Typos.

the_x5 · October 2004

</div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Wheeee @ Oct 14 2004, 12:40 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> why are we still discussing this?  </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> 
Why do you care?

answer: because we can

Nil_IQ · October 2004

Argh, you're (collectively) right. Its clearly a guy. That's mildly disturbing.

the_x5 · October 2004

</div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Nil_IQ @ Oct 14 2004, 12:33 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> Argh, you're (collectively) right. Its clearly a guy. That's mildly disturbing.  </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> 
I agree though it wouldn't affect my judgement of the person's character.

appearances != the content of one's character

Cold_NiTe · October 2004

</div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (x5 @ Oct 14 2004, 12:38 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> </div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Nil_IQ @ Oct 14 2004, 12:33 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> Argh, you're (collectively) right. Its clearly a guy. That's mildly disturbing. </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'>
I agree though it wouldn't affect my judgement of the person's character.

appearances != the content of one's character  </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> 
Well my view of Talesin has been redefined. In the same way that my view of Zig is every time he posts. <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/biggrin-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin-fix.gif' />

BlueNovember · October 2004

</div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (x5 @ Oct 14 2004, 12:38 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> appearances != the content of one's character  </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> 
...
I think you'd learn a lot about someone's character if they were a butch 7"2 monkey calling themselves Sylvia.

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</div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Cold-NiTe)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>
Well my view of Talesin has been redefined.
</td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'>
LOL. The guy's midlyly insane. Dancing she-men? Totally unsurprising. <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/wink-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wink-fix.gif' />

(Damn, this <b><i>is</i></b> pretty damn addictive. )

Sixsixone · October 2004

</div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (-Lurker- @ Oct 14 2004, 03:41 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <b>MAYA HEEE</b>

<span style='color:white'>Re-read the rules, special emphasis on the use of bold and colors.</span></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'>
<b>MAYA OOO!</b>

<span style='color:white'>See above.</span>

falloutx2 · October 2004

I find it amusing in that "I can't believe I am listening to this" way.

Its a campy song with a silly animation, but its good for a few laughs.

Cold_NiTe · October 2004

</div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (falloutx2 @ Oct 14 2004, 01:17 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> I find it amusing in that "I can't believe I am listening to this" way.

Its a campy song with a silly animation, but its good for a few laughs.  </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> 
I think we are all in the same boat on that one.

CForrester · October 2004

I have to say, I'm amused. Rather than threads randomly breaking out in to flaming, you're randomly breaking out in to science discussions.

Cold_NiTe · October 2004

</div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (CForrester @ Oct 14 2004, 01:19 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> I have to say, I'm amused. Rather than threads randomly breaking out in to flaming, you're randomly breaking out in to science discussions.  </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> 
Well I had to clear up a few things. I always forget that Testosterone is a type of Androgen and not the other way around.

Wheeee · October 2004

</div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Cold-NiTe @ Oct 14 2004, 12:28 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> Ok so as I understand it;

Androgen is a type of enzyme, a steroid in fact, that is circulated through the male body.

Testosterone is just a specific type of androgen.

Estrogen is the type of enzyme circulated in the female body.

However, both male and female counterparts have both enzymes, just one more than the other in a fixed ratio. This must remain homeostatic to prevent ill effects. So a guy would have both, just more Androgen than Estrogen. And for a girl the opposite would be true.

Also, Androgynous != Androgen. The first greek root is the same but the second is not. So they don't have that relation. Androgynous = Root for Man in greek & Root for Woman in greek. Androgen = Root for Man in greek and something else.

EDIT: Typos.  </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> 
gen = greek root for "birth" i believe. androgeny is the birth of male infants in medical terms, iirc.

Cold_NiTe · October 2004

Ahh like Genesis! Makes sense.

Geminosity · October 2004

actually androgen is like the building block hormone. They can be converted into testosterone or estrogen... and all this isn't taking into account progesterone which also changes things =3

Everyone has the lot of them in their body though. Alarmingly the levels of estrogen are supposedly far too high in men and women these days causing problems. If a guy's estrogen levels are high enough he can even suffer PMT-like symptoms XD
The high levels are caused by our diet... a lot of foods have things in them that promote estrogen. For example cows are often given growth hormones so they become nice and fat and make lots of milk but this also makes them produce a lot more estrogen in their milk which we then take in via dairy products. Supposedly soy-based products are insanely high in estrogen too =o

Snidely · October 2004

Great, you tell me this after I've had soya pancakes and fillet steak for breakfast and supper today. /:<

Maveric · October 2004

</div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Talesin @ Oct 13 2004, 07:34 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> Yes, the chibi in my sig (and in the flash linked in it) is male. An effeminate pretty boy (bishounen), but male nevertheless. It's pretty obvious at the beginning of the flash. <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/smile-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile-fix.gif' />  </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> 
<img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/confused-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='confused-fix.gif' />

From now on Talesin, please - FOR THE LOVE OF GOD - use stuff that states either M, or F. TY!

Nil_IQ · October 2004

</div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Geminosity @ Oct 14 2004, 03:03 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> Everyone has the lot of them in their body though. Alarmingly the levels of estrogen are supposedly far too high in men and women these days causing problems. If a guy's estrogen levels are high enough he can even suffer PMT-like symptoms XD  </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> 
That explains my manboobs then.

POOP_Akira · October 2004

*uncontollable laughter*

Must... Regain... Breath...

Kouji_San · October 2004

wasnt this song Portugese and became famous because it was run over and over and over and over again during the soccer season?

/me hates this song!!!

Sky · October 2004

</div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (x5 @ Oct 14 2004, 12:38 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> </div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Nil_IQ @ Oct 14 2004, 12:33 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> Argh, you're (collectively) right. Its clearly a guy. That's mildly disturbing. </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'>
I agree though it wouldn't affect my judgement of the person's character.

appearances != the content of one's character  </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> 
appearances SHOULD = the content of one's pants....

POOP_Akira · October 2004

</div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (5kyh16h91 @ Oct 14 2004, 04:16 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> </div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (x5 @ Oct 14 2004, 12:38 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> </div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Nil_IQ @ Oct 14 2004, 12:33 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> Argh, you're (collectively) right. Its clearly a guy. That's mildly disturbing. </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'>
I agree though it wouldn't affect my judgement of the person's character.

appearances != the content of one's character </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'>
appearances SHOULD = the content of one's pants....  </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> 
...and shirt.

Wheeee · October 2004

</div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Kouji San @ Oct 14 2004, 03:55 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> wasnt this song Portugese and became famous because it was run over and over and over and over again during the soccer season?

/me hates this song!!!  </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> 
romanian, and no.

Talesins Chibi Dance.

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