But it would be nice if aliens could somehow pass resources to a gorge, life feeding it or something. Maybe like the healing web but a resource web, it would take the alien out of the action for the time it takes to transfer the resources, or a 2 for 1 trade. I'm just thinking of it from a hive mentallity, where everything is shared and for the good of the hive, resources would be neat if they could be regurgitated to a gorge.
and for the unbalancing of that, I think marines should have field medics, or a limited number of portable medpacks with them, so they don't need to harrass the commander all the time. If I can pick a medpack up off the ground, I should be able to carry it with me.
Insta-Hive is pointless... Lets waste all our starting resources plus all we get up to that time by our single mine, in order to progress to the next tier for evolution, and have to wait 8 years each before we can morph to fade!!!111
F4ing, and then having the gorges make resource vents is MUCH more useful. You can be all over the map while the marines are still trying to frantically hold on to little bits of territories.... HAHAHA I do not think it should be stopped, but it should be changed to not make the very beginning unbalanced like it is right now. I think the resources of the person who went to the RR would be slowly dumped into the system as if it was an additional mine that would run out when the original amount was tapped. If the person rejoined before the entire amount was given out, then they would reacquire the remaining amount not given out yet.
<!--QuoteBegin--Jasper+Nov 15 2002, 12:50 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Jasper @ Nov 15 2002, 12:50 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--><!--emo&???--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/confused.gif' border='0' valign='absmiddle' alt='confused.gif'><!--endemo--> <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' valign='absmiddle' alt='biggrin.gif'><!--endemo--> <!--emo&:(--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/sad.gif' border='0' valign='absmiddle' alt='sad.gif'><!--endemo--> <!--emo&;)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/wink.gif' border='0' valign='absmiddle' alt='wink.gif'><!--endemo--> <!--emo&:angry:--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/mad.gif' border='0' valign='absmiddle' alt='mad.gif'><!--endemo--> <!--emo&:0--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/wow.gif' border='0' valign='absmiddle' alt='wow.gif'><!--endemo--> <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' valign='absmiddle' alt='tounge.gif'><!--endemo--> <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' valign='absmiddle' alt='smile.gif'><!--endemo--><!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> jasper.. every time you post... thats all you post. i havnt actually seen you post any WORDS yet.. just smilies. that annoys me.
anyhoo. i totally think its cheat. how can you guys think its not? taking a game element and using it in a way its not meant to be is exploitiation. yeah, the game is still buggy, there is gonna be stuff like that, but i mean... come on guys, your only cheating yourselfes out of developing good tactics. when this is fixed, and your entire resource gathering strategy involves repeated trips to the readyroom, what happens then?
I argee that using the RR to transfer resources is an exploit, however it does seem like the aliens should have some way to transfer resources. If you're worried about balance just have the transfer be short range, you can only transfer to someone right in front of you, and only transfer like 5 RPs per second. If you have 2 gorges together with 40 RPs each you should be able to build that hive, no reason why aliens in a collective hive would be selfish.
If you want to give some ability to the marines to balance this letting them carry medpacks doesn't seem to bad. What if marines could pick up one thing to carry around with them (like and ammo pack or a med pack) then drop it whenever they wanted to or whenever they died.
what i hate about the marines in the vents thing is that its nearly impossible for a skulk to kill them. say you have a heavy marine with hmg in the vents (jetpack) its impossible to kill them before they kill you with the current marine crouch hitboxes. so they can creep into a vent and destroy your hive before you get a chance to do anything about it.
this bug is good for aliens, but it's unfair for marines. all you gotta do is go to ready room if your alien. and the more rp you got, the more rp you give to gorges. this is a cheating way to get rp for gorges so they can build hives REAL QUICK.. but i have not seen much players doing this.
When I started playing I thought this was cheating (Even though I urged my teammates to do so) But then i started playing on some really good servers (Hardly any whining, BS, OMG U HAX or anything) and the Aliens didnt do this tactic at all, infact nobody would even suggest it, soon as the skulks got to 33 res, they stayed there, and let all the resources go to the gorge (When all skulks max resource, teh Gorge gets a Super infusion of Resources) and we had hives up in like 5 mins of gameplay, AND we could go fades in a very short time (Was a great deal of teamwork and similar strategy used, ALiens rush, Gorge/s (only ever 1 or 2) go plant resource nodes, build em up, then move to another resource node, build it up then go to hive and build resource node build it up then one starts saving for hive while the other either maxes his res, goes skulk to boost the other gorge, or build defense at the hive. (Usually it would Defense up but going to skulk with say 60 resources gives an infusion of 27 to the other gorge waiting for hive 2)
So much teamwork and good strategy planned down, we won mostly every game (Not just same guys, same server, but diff guys, same strategy, works a treat or did in 1.02)
Thing is, if you do Go RR and give up th resources, your gonna have a harder time getting to fade when its needed, PLUS your constantly drawing up resources due to never being full (if you were full, all res goes to other players, takes at leaast 1-2 mins of game to fill (if your gorges are on the ball) and then they get to keep the surplus.
I think that it is an exploit, but nothing should be done apart from having admins enforce it harshly (Ban, or Kick for a day) most ppl will realise soon enough that if they save up they can get fades all that much quicker.
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But it would be nice if aliens could somehow pass resources to a gorge, life feeding it or something. Maybe like the healing web but a resource web, it would take the alien out of the action for the time it takes to transfer the resources, or a 2 for 1 trade. I'm just thinking of it from a hive mentallity, where everything is shared and for the good of the hive, resources would be neat if they could be regurgitated to a gorge.
and for the unbalancing of that, I think marines should have field medics, or a limited number of portable medpacks with them, so they don't need to harrass the commander all the time. If I can pick a medpack up off the ground, I should be able to carry it with me.
F4ing, and then having the gorges make resource vents is MUCH more useful. You can be all over the map while the marines are still trying to frantically hold on to little bits of territories.... HAHAHA
I do not think it should be stopped, but it should be changed to not make the very beginning unbalanced like it is right now.
I think the resources of the person who went to the RR would be slowly dumped into the system as if it was an additional mine that would run out when the original amount was tapped. If the person rejoined before the entire amount was given out, then they would reacquire the remaining amount not given out yet.
jasper.. every time you post... thats all you post. i havnt actually seen you post any WORDS yet.. just smilies. that annoys me.
anyhoo. i totally think its cheat. how can you guys think its not? taking a game element and using it in a way its not meant to be is exploitiation. yeah, the game is still buggy, there is gonna be stuff like that, but i mean... come on guys, your only cheating yourselfes out of developing good tactics. when this is fixed, and your entire resource gathering strategy involves repeated trips to the readyroom, what happens then?
If you want to give some ability to the marines to balance this letting them carry medpacks doesn't seem to bad. What if marines could pick up one thing to carry around with them (like and ammo pack or a med pack) then drop it whenever they wanted to or whenever they died.
So much teamwork and good strategy planned down, we won mostly every game (Not just same guys, same server, but diff guys, same strategy, works a treat or did in 1.02)
Thing is, if you do Go RR and give up th resources, your gonna have a harder time getting to fade when its needed, PLUS your constantly drawing up resources due to never being full (if you were full, all res goes to other players, takes at leaast 1-2 mins of game to fill (if your gorges are on the ball) and then they get to keep the surplus.
I think that it is an exploit, but nothing should be done apart from having admins enforce it harshly (Ban, or Kick for a day) most ppl will realise soon enough that if they save up they can get fades all that much quicker.