The "explotive" And "evil" Scripts
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Join Date: 2003-02-21 Member: 13793Members
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The only one i could think of is the old "crash" script or the super leap script.
Where is the explorit script for 3.0? <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
Both issues have been dealt with. There are no harmful script (some claim that the wigglewalk-script that locks up your system is though). People just need something to blame when they get killed by a better player and therefor feel more "comfortable" using mp_blockscripts 1.
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This is pretty evil, especially when an admin uses it on you.
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This is pretty evil, especially when an admin uses it on you. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
Will not work in Combat.
oh i didnt know that, im curios to know what the actual script looked like.
The only one i could think of is the old "crash" script or the super leap script.
Where is the explorit script for 3.0? <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Both issues have been dealt with. There are no harmful script (some claim that the wigglewalk-script that locks up your system is though). People just need something to blame when they get killed by a better player and therefor feel more "comfortable" using mp_blockscripts 1. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
This is exacly what makes me sick.. <!--emo&:angry:--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/mad-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='mad-fix.gif' /><!--endemo--> <!--emo&::nerdy::--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/nerd-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='nerd-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->
I simple dont get it, and it freaks me out.
The most usefull script i've seen is even a non-combat script, like a clever config changer or admin related stuff.
I dont get where all the hate is from <!--emo&???--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/confused-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='confused-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->
And even if scripts give you an unfair advantage, how is this different from having a good computer vs. a bad one?
or having a logitech mx900 with 8 bottums vs. standard microsoft ball mouse?
Or using the mwheel to spam jump commands vs. 3/5 jump script?
I really freaks me out, and it makes me sick. <!--emo&::nerdy::--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/nerd-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='nerd-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->
You win some chill pills!
Use them to wait until someone else posts before you post again!
a good computer won't bunnyhop 5 times in a second for you. a good computer won't leap and time a bite or xenocide for you. a good computer won't make your character walk rapidly left-to-right to help you move faster throughout the level. a good computer won't...
i could go on and on. i have nothing against scripts, but to say they give you no more of an advantage than a good computer does is seriously false.
...and yeah, <i><b>triple</b> post</i> ftl.
There is no such script that bhops for you etc. It's for people who want to bhop without having to use the mousewheel to jump. And having constant 100fps ingame is an absolutely huge advantage. Movement is so much smoother, it is easier to aim, etc.
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i could go on and on. i have nothing against scripts, but to say they give you no more of an advantage than a good computer does is seriously false. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
Maybe not a computer in and of itself, but there is nothing I can do with scripts that I can't do with a 30$ gamepad; and the gamepad isn't blocked by mp_bs. And the only really special part about the pad is the programming it has - I doubt I would be hard pressed to find some kind of key macro program on the web that dos the exact same thing for free.
I don't know what you were doing wrong, but I was one of the people helping to find out the extent of the problem and what caused it (When it was first posted in the bugs forum)... It didn't use _special, and I could do about 20-30 leaps. How well it worked really depended on the ping, but I tried it in some games with a ping of around 70 and asked if the other people saw me leaping over and over, but they just saw me leap once, (looking very oddly) and then bite a lot midair. It was like a super fast almost uncontrollable lerk.
I can't remember how it was done entirely... I think it had to do with firing when slot1 was selected, and then quickly selecting slot3. For some reason the quick switch glitched it out to just take the energy from the first weapon, yet it fired both I think.
I also managed to make a super fast bite script, but it didn't actually work, it just looked like it did. (It bit at basically normal speed, but to the client it looked crazy fast.)
That bug also caused a lot of problems with people who did the leap bite technique, because if you hit lastinv too fast (and had focus), it would fire bite then and so then you wouldn't be able to bite when you got to the marines.
a good computer won't bunnyhop 5 times in a second for you. a good computer won't leap and time a bite or xenocide for you. a good computer won't make your character walk rapidly left-to-right to help you move faster throughout the level. a good computer won't...
i could go on and on. i have nothing against scripts, but to say they give you no more of an advantage than a good computer does is seriously false.
...and yeah, <i><b>triple</b> post</i> ftl. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Can you hook me up with the script that 'bunnyhops 5 times in a second' for me? I don't know what that is <!--emo&:(--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/sad-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='sad-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->
If you're talking about 3jump (which doesn't 'bhop 5 times in a second'), that's the same thing as using a mwheel essentially.
Nobody good uses a leap/bite or leap/xeno script or any other weapon changing scripts. They use lastinv and slot1-4. Leap/bite scripts make you play worse, not better...
Since _special is again removed, wiggle-walk scripts will now lock you up until they are done and give no real advantadge over doing it manually... These too... are bad.
You could go on and on you say? Please do, I'll clear up any misconceptions <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->
Having a good computer (vs a bad one) will do far more for your in game ability than all the scripts in the world. There's just no contest...
So having money will get you far far then having a script, why is scripts then blocked?
Still haven't seen any abusive scripts for 3.0f.
You could argue about wigglewalk, but from what i have tried it locks you up when running and that in it self is bad.
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Well put out <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->
So having money will get you far far then having a script, why is scripts then blocked?
Still haven't seen any abusive scripts for 3.0f.
You could argue about wigglewalk, but from what i have tried it locks you up when running and that in it self is bad.
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The wigglewalk people are complaining about was done through special or a macro, and did/does not lock up your controls like a regular script.
So having money will get you far far then having a script, why is scripts then blocked?
Still haven't seen any abusive scripts for 3.0f.
You could argue about wigglewalk, but from what i have tried it locks you up when running and that in it self is bad.
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The wigglewalk people are complaining about was done through special or a macro, and did/does not lock up your controls like a regular script. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
The _special variation of that is now impossible. And external, fast-repeating macros <i>would</i> be impossible, if VAC worked for NS...
Why do we have block scripts when there are no abusive scripts and therefor no reason to have it?
Why do we have block scripts when there are no abusive scripts and therefor no reason to have it? <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
That, my friend, is the ultimate question isn't it?
Basically, people need to blame their ineptitude on something other than the fact there may be a person better at the game than them. Scripts are a convient excuse.
Valve allows users to edit their scripts, no harm. The NS Team even allows servers to activate mp_blockscripts. Simply put, if you do not like scripts or you believe that they are 'explotive' or 'evil' then you are welcome to play on those servers that block scripts.
Many people complain that scripts give players the advantage. It is there own fault that they do not understand the system.
If scripts are bad because they make me more effiecent then overclocking my CPU must be a sin since I can play the game much smoother. Obv.
How do we get the devs to "rethink" it?
Valve allows users to edit their scripts, no harm. The NS Team even allows servers to activate mp_blockscripts. Simply put, if you do not like scripts or you believe that they are 'explotive' or 'evil' then you are welcome to play on those servers that block scripts.
Many people complain that scripts give players the advantage. It is there own fault that they do not understand the system.
If scripts are bad because they make me more effiecent then overclocking my CPU must be a sin since I can play the game much smoother. Obv. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
You contradict yourself, increasing your efficiency is increasing how well you play.
Efficiency does not equal skill. Pit two different players together: a skulk from [t]error and a marine who has only been playing the game a few weeks.
1) Give both players default configs. Skulk wins.
2) Give the marine loads of scripts. Skulk still wins.
3) Give the marine an aimbot and wallhack. Marine wins.
Please note the difference. Hacks make you play better. Scripts make the game more comfortable for you to play.