<!--QuoteBegin-DOOManiac+Apr 12 2005, 10:57 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (DOOManiac @ Apr 12 2005, 10:57 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> There's a problem with overpopulation of people. Lets hunt them! :X <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> RUN OH GOD NO THEY GOT <a href='http://www.progressiveboink.com/jon/images/calvinhobbes/jon5.GIF' target='_blank'>FRANK</a> RUN RUN RUN AAH
<!--QuoteBegin-Necrotic+Apr 13 2005, 02:17 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Necrotic @ Apr 13 2005, 02:17 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Also I don't know if the same is true for America but over here if you run over a cat you don't have to stop/report it/care but if you run over a dog its a crime. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> Thats perfectly understandable. Unlike cats, dogs are actually usefull.
As far as pet cats getting killed, its pretty simple guys: you can't legally use a firearm in certain areas, so your cat is safe in your backyard. Aso, you shouldn't be letting your cats out to run amok in the neighborhood anyway, since they will kill every shred of wildlife they can find for their own amusement.
You have a pretty strange impression of cats there.
A) Cats were domesticated solely <i>because</i> they serve a purpose - that being the reduction of vermin. Our cats still catch the occasional mouse, and they do not leave the house. You'll now argue that not all cats serve this purpose. I'll ask you what use one can derive from a poodle. B) Cats will kill animals for sport if you don't give them some other sort of valve for their instincts. Similiarily, dogs will go berserk if you don't walk them out regularily. If you play with your cats every day, they will not be aggressive towards animals they do not wish to eat. C) You show me the cat that can be reasonably confined to a limited areal such as one's own garden and I'll show you the fish who prefers to breathe air.
<!--QuoteBegin-Nemesis Zero+Apr 13 2005, 12:20 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Nemesis Zero @ Apr 13 2005, 12:20 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> You have a pretty strange impression of cats there.
A) Cats were domesticated solely <i>because</i> they serve a purpose - that being the reduction of vermin. Our cats still catch the occasional mouse, and they do not leave the house. You'll now argue that not all cats serve this purpose. I'll ask you what use one can derive from a poodle. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> Fair enough, I retract the statement.
<!--QuoteBegin--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> B) Cats will kill animals for sport if you don't give them some other sort of valve for their instincts. Similiarily, dogs will go berserk if you don't walk them out regularily. If you play with your cats every day, they will not be aggressive towards animals they do not wish to eat.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> I don't know if thats true about cats, but I've lived with many dogs, and none of them have yet gone berserk from not being walked regularly. Also, it is obvious then that very few cat owners are being responsable and engaging their cat in the right kinds of activities, otherwise they wouldn't be such a problem.
<!--QuoteBegin--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> C) You show me the cat that can be reasonably confined to a limited areal such as one's own garden and I'll show you the fish who prefers to breathe air.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> All the more reason not to own cats <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo-->
I see this turning into another apples vs. oranges thread (apples ftw!), so I'll try to be curt. Yes, lots of cat owners are acting irresponsibly with their cats. There <i>are</i> 'lazy' breeds that don't need exercise, as I suspect there are dogs who need less movement than a German Shepherd, but many owners just don't care and buy the first pet that catches their attention, oblivious to the typical barncat's needs. Castrate the owners <!--emo&;)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/wink-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wink-fix.gif' /><!--endemo--> If you prefer a servile pet, enjoy your dog. I find the 'just wait till they invent the paw-operational can opener' attitude of an average cat significantly more attractive. To each his own.
<!--QuoteBegin-Nemesis Zero+Apr 13 2005, 12:37 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Nemesis Zero @ Apr 13 2005, 12:37 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> I see this turning into another apples vs. oranges thread (apples ftw!), so I'll try to be curt. Yes, lots of cat owners are acting irresponsibly with their cats. There <i>are</i> 'lazy' breeds that don't need exercise, as I suspect there are dogs who need less movement than a German Shepherd, but many owners just don't care and buy the first pet that catches their attention, oblivious to the typical barncat's needs. Castrate the owners <!--emo&;)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/wink-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wink-fix.gif' /><!--endemo--> If you prefer a servile pet, enjoy your dog. I find the 'just wait till they invent the paw-operational can opener' attitude of an average cat significantly more attractive. To each his own. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> Exactly. Personal choices reflect upon the pet someone owns.
But no one really owns a cat. It's a long term loan. <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->
Don't kid yourself - it's servitude. We provide the food, the safety from other animals, the entertainment, the health care, not to mention the attention, and in exchange, the cat shows up occasionally <!--emo&;)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/wink-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wink-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->
Cats are freeloaders.. But then again, so are any animal/pet really. Especially reptiles.. <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo-->
One of my cats usally goes out for like 2 weeks.. then comes back..
i don't have problems with cat hunting if there are strict regulations to
1) check for the existance of a collar 2) set certain areas that hunting will not be allowed. ie. you can only hunt feral cats in the wilderness, such as a game park, not ones that stray into your back yard.
The problem is you can't keep a collar on a cat. Plus surely the problem is the overpopulation in peoples backyards, if the cats stayed politely in game parks and hunted deer or something then people wouldn't care.
I agree with Nem, neutering them would be far more effective in the long run.
<!--QuoteBegin-kill4thrills+Apr 13 2005, 08:32 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (kill4thrills @ Apr 13 2005, 08:32 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> i don't have problems with cat hunting if there are strict regulations to
1) check for the existance of a collar 2) set certain areas that hunting will not be allowed. ie. you can only hunt feral cats in the wilderness, such as a game park, not ones that stray into your back yard. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> I see.....
So you have to actually catch the cat, look after a collar, set the cat free and then shoot it. <!--emo&???--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/confused-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='confused-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->
seriously... There are lots of cats in the area. I've had to put a few down because of the cold outside, the family couldn't feed all of them. Most of the time the cats just disapear... most likely frozen to the ground out there. Believe me... i was in charge of mowing the lawn... nothing ruins your day more then watching rotted cat corpses fly out of the bottom of the lawnmower in shreds.
The cats we did keep were the most vicious sons o' b*@#%es i've ever seen though. During the summer they hunted their own food and we just gave them water. Ever see a cat take down a duck? its hilarious.
<!--QuoteBegin-Trevelyan+Apr 13 2005, 07:21 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Trevelyan @ Apr 13 2005, 07:21 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> The cats we did keep were the most vicious sons o' b*@#%es i've ever seen though. During the summer they hunted their own food and we just gave them water <i>and steroids</i>. Ever see a cat take down a duck? its hilarious.
<!--QuoteBegin-DOOManiac+Apr 13 2005, 05:52 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (DOOManiac @ Apr 13 2005, 05:52 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Foxes are wild animals. They run away from people, not walk up to you and rub against your (1% of cats) or ignore you completely (the other 99%).
There's absolutey no sport in hunting a domesticated animal... Its like shooting fish in a barrel...
Not to mention the obvious problem of someone shooting someone's cat, then simply throwing away the collar... <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> And shooting fish in a barrel ISNT fun?
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Arggh, so tired...
Thats perfectly understandable. Unlike cats, dogs are actually usefull.
As far as pet cats getting killed, its pretty simple guys: you can't legally use a firearm in certain areas, so your cat is safe in your backyard. Aso, you shouldn't be letting your cats out to run amok in the neighborhood anyway, since they will kill every shred of wildlife they can find for their own amusement.
A) Cats were domesticated solely <i>because</i> they serve a purpose - that being the reduction of vermin. Our cats still catch the occasional mouse, and they do not leave the house. You'll now argue that not all cats serve this purpose. I'll ask you what use one can derive from a poodle.
B) Cats will kill animals for sport if you don't give them some other sort of valve for their instincts. Similiarily, dogs will go berserk if you don't walk them out regularily. If you play with your cats every day, they will not be aggressive towards animals they do not wish to eat.
C) You show me the cat that can be reasonably confined to a limited areal such as one's own garden and I'll show you the fish who prefers to breathe air.
A) Cats were domesticated solely <i>because</i> they serve a purpose - that being the reduction of vermin. Our cats still catch the occasional mouse, and they do not leave the house. You'll now argue that not all cats serve this purpose. I'll ask you what use one can derive from a poodle. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
Fair enough, I retract the statement.
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B) Cats will kill animals for sport if you don't give them some other sort of valve for their instincts. Similiarily, dogs will go berserk if you don't walk them out regularily. If you play with your cats every day, they will not be aggressive towards animals they do not wish to eat.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
I don't know if thats true about cats, but I've lived with many dogs, and none of them have yet gone berserk from not being walked regularly. Also, it is obvious then that very few cat owners are being responsable and engaging their cat in the right kinds of activities, otherwise they wouldn't be such a problem.
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C) You show me the cat that can be reasonably confined to a limited areal such as one's own garden and I'll show you the fish who prefers to breathe air.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
All the more reason not to own cats <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo-->
If you prefer a servile pet, enjoy your dog. I find the 'just wait till they invent the paw-operational can opener' attitude of an average cat significantly more attractive. To each his own.
If you prefer a servile pet, enjoy your dog. I find the 'just wait till they invent the paw-operational can opener' attitude of an average cat significantly more attractive. To each his own. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
Exactly. Personal choices reflect upon the pet someone owns.
But no one really owns a cat. It's a long term loan. <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->
One of my cats usally goes out for like 2 weeks.. then comes back..
*shakes fist*
1) check for the existance of a collar
2) set certain areas that hunting will not be allowed. ie. you can only hunt feral cats in the wilderness, such as a game park, not ones that stray into your back yard.
I agree with Nem, neutering them would be far more effective in the long run.
1) check for the existance of a collar
2) set certain areas that hunting will not be allowed. ie. you can only hunt feral cats in the wilderness, such as a game park, not ones that stray into your back yard. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
I see.....
So you have to actually catch the cat, look after a collar, set the cat free and then shoot it. <!--emo&???--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/confused-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='confused-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->
sounds odd
The cats we did keep were the most vicious sons o' b*@#%es i've ever seen though. During the summer they hunted their own food and we just gave them water. Ever see a cat take down a duck? its hilarious.
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Yeah, thats another thing. Someone said about gun laws and so forth but a gun isn't the only way. As they say, theres more than one way to skin a cat.
Let's hope the English forum members don't hear that ;P <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
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Anyway...
Hunting cats is pretty bad.
I could never shoot a kitty...
In my 21 years of existence, I have never taken care of one.
There's absolutey no sport in hunting a domesticated animal... Its like shooting fish in a barrel...
Not to mention the obvious problem of someone shooting someone's cat, then simply throwing away the collar...
This would "train" the owners of the cats that letting their VERMIN - er, pets - roam free throughout the neighborhood is not a good thing.
There's absolutey no sport in hunting a domesticated animal... Its like shooting fish in a barrel...
Not to mention the obvious problem of someone shooting someone's cat, then simply throwing away the collar... <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
And shooting fish in a barrel ISNT fun?