Baking Soda + Vinegar

Cyndane · April 2005

</div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Sky @ Apr 19 2005, 07:03 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> Wow, no sodium, however I did find some <a href='http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=413&item=6172337826&rd=1&ssPageName=WDVW' target='_blank'>cesium</a>.
</div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>Non-toxic - non radioactive!</td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'>
I suppose "will make you explode horribly" doesn't qualify it for the "toxic" label. >_>

</div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>A must have for your elements collection</td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'>
Or for playing with.

God I love eBay. ^_^  </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> 
Oh my god... I fear the day someone figures out how explosive that stuff is with water.

GG ebay.. gg.

arctica · April 2005

</div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (BulletHead @ Apr 19 2005, 08:07 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> I wanna see this on Myth Busters XD  </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> 
Lmfao. That'd be awesome. However there is no myth. We can only watch for the pretty explosions <_<

Cyndane · April 2005

Yes, there is no myth to bust, it really does explode when in contact with water, and some of them, cesium included reacts violently with just air. Which is why the one on ebay is contained with argon. Have to love the non-reactability of noble gases.

UltimaGecko · April 2005

I suggest getting some pure magnesium...and lighting it on fire.

...but don't look at it.

arctica · April 2005

</div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (UltimaGecko @ Apr 19 2005, 08:46 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> I suggest getting some pure magnesium...and lighting it on fire.

...but don't look at it.  </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> 
I see the light! I see the light!

...and I had a bright spot left over becuase I was an idiot and decided to sneak a peak. Bad choice.

Har_Har_the_Pirate · April 2005

this thread is now rated A for awsome

the_x5 · April 2005

</div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Twelve @ Apr 19 2005, 02:20 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> Gah, chlorine and brake fluid make for better explosions. </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'>
Bah, hydrogen is sneakier.
<_<
>_>
*evil grin*

This idiot is doing a basic chemistry experiment.
Carboxylic acids can be made by the complete oxidation of primary alcohol. Carboxylic acids react with bases to form carboxylate salts, in which the hydrogen of the -OH group is replaced with a metal ion. Thus, ethanoic acid (the same as acetic acid) reacts with sodium bicarbonate (baking soda) to form sodium ethanoate (sodium acetate), carbon dioxide, and water:

CH3COOH + NaHCO3 → CH3COONa + CO2 + H2O

Now time for some minorly bad knowledge... you are hearby warned....

You can repeat this idiot's unsafe experiment and make it potentially lethal by doing the following:
1. Evaporate most of the water from the vinegar, this requires keeping the temperature between 100C (water's boiling point) and 118C (acetic acid's boiling point). You will have to evaporate a lot of water and some of the acetic acid will also sponaneously evaporate so expect to go through a few gallons of vinegar if you want to get the good concentrated acid.
2. Put the baking soda in a sturdy steel pipe (narrow isn't as good as wide) and make sure the ends are very well sealed air tight
3. After adding the newly concentrated vinegar and baking soda powder (and the more the better) screw the lid on tight. Shake it up real well and if you're lucky it'll explode. Hopefully a piece of shrapnel will shoot out and kill you. Oh, you can also add strips of sodium metal (not ore) to enchance the reaction.

Or... to be simple, just throw a 12gram (CO2 used in paintball and BB guns) in a nice big fire and wait for it to explode. Stand real close now. [aside]Please don't I'm being sarcastic[/aside]

NumbersNotFound · April 2005

</div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Cyndane @ Apr 19 2005, 08:10 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Sky @ Apr 19 2005, 07:03 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> Wow, no sodium, however I did find some <a href='http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=413&item=6172337826&rd=1&ssPageName=WDVW' target='_blank'>cesium</a>.
</div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>Non-toxic - non radioactive!</td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'>
I suppose "will make you explode horribly" doesn't qualify it for the "toxic" label. >_>

</div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>A must have for your elements collection</td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'>
Or for playing with.

God I love eBay. ^_^ </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'>
Oh my god... I fear the day someone figures out how explosive that stuff is with water.

GG ebay.. gg.</td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'>
<img src='http://ccinfo.ims.ac.jp/periodic/periodic.jpg' border='0' alt='user posted image' />

The further you go to the lower left the more reactive it is in water.

Sodium makes a pretty good pop. My old chem teacher used to cut it with his fingernail... until a piece got stuck in there and blew his fingernail off when he went to was his hands. Potassium pretty much explodes.... so.. yeah. Never put Francium in your mouth or anything.

Mantrid · April 2005

Never put Francium anywhere. Its radioactive and reacts violently with water. Not a good combination.

Sky · April 2005

</div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (NumbersNotFound @ Apr 19 2005, 09:27 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> Never put Francium in your mouth or anything.  </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> 
Well, the good thing about francium is the resulting explosion will probably destroy any cancerous cells caused by its natural radiation. You just gotta take the good with the bad. <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/wink-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wink-fix.gif' />

the_x5 · April 2005

</div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (NumbersNotFound @ Apr 19 2005, 09:27 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> Sodium makes a pretty good pop. My old chem teacher used to cut it with his fingernail... until a piece got stuck in there and blew his fingernail off when he went to was his hands. Potassium pretty much explodes.... so.. yeah. Never put Francium in your mouth or anything.  </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> 
>< ouch. Poor teacher...

for the lazy on this forum:

<u>Francium:</u>
Atomic Number: 87
Atomic Radius: 270 pm
Atomic Symbol: Fr
Melting Point: 27 ºC
Boiling Point: 677 ºC
Atomic Weight: 223
Electron Configuration: [Rn]7s1
Oxidation States: 1

History
(France) Discovered in 1939 by Mlle. Marguerite Perey of the Curie Institute, Paris. Francium, the heaviest known member of the alkali metals series, occurs as a result of an alpha disintegration of actinium. It can also be made artificially by bombarding thorium with protons. While it occurs naturally in uranium minerals, there is probably less than an ounce of francium at any time in the total crust of the earth. It has the highest equivalent weight of any element, and is the most unstable of the first 101 elements of the periodic system. Thirty-three isotopes of francium are recognized. The longest lived 223Fr (Ac, K), a daughter of 227Ac, has a half-life of 22 min. This is the only isotope of francium occurring in nature. Because all known isotopes of francium are highly unstable, knowledge of the chemical properties of this element comes from radiochemical techniques. No weighable quantity of the element has been prepared or isolated. The chemical properties of francium most resemble cesium.

Mantrid · April 2005

<a href='http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Periodic_table_(standard)' target='_blank'>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Periodic_table_(standard)</a>

arctica · April 2005

</div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Mantrid @ Apr 19 2005, 09:32 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> Never put Francium anywhere. Its radioactive and reacts violently with water. Not a good combination.  </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> 
I think they named that stuff after my mother, she reacts violently...though not with water. <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/confused-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='confused-fix.gif' />

Pithlit · April 2005

thats what you think <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' />

Blobby · April 2005

<a href='http://www.detonate.net' target='_blank'>deprived?</a> <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/confused-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='confused-fix.gif' />

Lt_Patch · April 2005

</div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Mantrid)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> Never put Francium anywhere. Its radioactive and reacts violently with water. Not a good combination.</td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'>
You wouldn't even get the Francium to your mouth, it would irradiate your hand, then probably blow it off at the same time...

*Looks at the eBay auction*
Hmm, a micro-ampoule filled with argon and Caesium... I don't think the MA tube looks too sturdy... You could use that as a kind of grenade...Especially on a rainy day... All that water in the air, such little Cs at hand...

Heh, I've seen the videos of people adding Cs to a bathtub full of water. And the bathtub getting a hole blown out of it.

Twas no ordinary bathtub either...

Twas a metal one!

Monkfish · April 2005

</div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Lt Patch @ Apr 20 2005, 07:51 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Mantrid)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> Never put Francium anywhere. Its radioactive and reacts violently with water. Not a good combination.</td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'>
You wouldn't even get the Francium to your mouth, it would irradiate your hand, then probably blow it off at the same time...

*Looks at the eBay auction*
Hmm, a micro-ampoule filled with argon and Caesium... I don't think the MA tube looks too sturdy... You could use that as a kind of grenade...Especially on a rainy day... All that water in the air, such little Cs at hand...

Heh, I've seen the videos of people adding Cs to a bathtub full of water. And the bathtub getting a hole blown out of it.

Twas no ordinary bathtub either...

Twas a metal one!</td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'>
Brainiac FTW!

And it didn't just blow a hole in the bathtub, it blew it clean in <i>half</i>

OrganoX · April 2005

Bored huh?
Wonder what i shall do when im bored.
Nuclear bombs here i come!

Mullet · April 2005

I kind of want to make a molotov cocktail <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/wow.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wow.gif' />

rabbity · April 2005

back then during highschool, a few boys got nawty and filled the squirt bottle with alcohol, made a flamethrower

the flames got into a tub of alcohol and everyone freaked out D:

they got detention...pwnt

Twelve · April 2005

</div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (rabbity @ Apr 21 2005, 06:59 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> back then during highschool, a few boys got nawty and filled the squirt bottle with alcohol, made a flamethrower

the flames got into a tub of alcohol and everyone freaked out D:

they got detention...pwnt  </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> 
Alcohol is for drinking, not burning <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/mad-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='mad-fix.gif' />

rabbity · April 2005

feel free to drink the alcohol in teh science lab :o

Lt_Patch · April 2005

Hmm, ethanol!

*calls an ambulance for the first person to follow Rabbity's advice*

Personally, I think a can of Lynx Dry makes a much better flamethrower. Less chance of it flashing back, and blowing the bottle apart in your hand, plus, the anti-sweating powdery stuff in it (which seems to be attracted to my PC) burns, and sticks to anything... Napalm in a can...

In other news, meh, molotov cocktails are for wimps. Sambuca in a bottle, lit, and thrown is the REAL terrorist way!

the_x5 · April 2005

</div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (OrganoX @ Apr 21 2005, 12:05 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> Bored huh?
Wonder what i shall do when im bored.
Nuclear bombs here i come! </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'>
Good luck getting a hold of the enriched heavy metals. The US government does a good job controling nuclear materials. Most of our Uranium is imported from our Aussie friends downunder.

You could always fuse hydrogen, but heck if you had a homemade mechanism to do some trick to efficently produce fusion activation thermal energy level temperature -- you should patent it an retire on the royalties that come from it.

Sky · April 2005

</div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Lt Patch @ Apr 21 2005, 03:22 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> Hmm, ethanol!

*calls an ambulance for the first person to follow Rabbity's advice*  </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> 
I heard a story of a teacher who secretly drank the lab ethanol, until one day he misread the label and tried to get drunk off of methanol....it didn't turn out well for him. <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/marine.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='marine.gif' />

big_jim · April 2005

I somehow doubt that he drank lab ethanol more than once. Most lab ethanol is made by a process called benzene drying, to remove the water and thus increasing its concentration. Benzene is very toxic and drinking lab ethanol made in this way would put you off from doing it ever again. Plus drinking it from the straight from the bottle would probably kill you. Most of the ethanol in my university's lab is 'absolute' ethanol - 95 to 99.9% pure, just a quick smell is enough to make you feel light headed.

Sky · April 2005

Well obviously, being a chemist, he knew the correct dilution ratios and such to make it not lethal to drink. The problem with methanol is that it is more deadly than ethanol, but less intoxicating. So the guy just kept drinking the stuff, and it just killed him even though he diluted it, because he didn't stop until he started feeling drunk though his toxicity levels were through the roof.

Gree · April 2005

For some real kicks try mixing 2 parts rust powder with 3 parts aluminium powder( I think thats the right ratio) then put a strip of magnesium slightly into the rust aluminium mixture. Light the magnesium and endjoy the show.

This stuff is called thermite and very small amounts of this stuff can make very large holes in metal where there were no holes before.

Venmoch · April 2005

This thead is quickly turning into the "Natural-Selection Forums Anarchist Cookbook"

<img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' />

arctica · April 2005

Next thing you know, some kid will be arrested for setting off a bomb in some school, and give the reply: "I learned how to make this from the Natural Selection Forums."

Baking Soda + Vinegar

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