<div class="IPBDescription">Nine Inch Nails</div> I'm curious about your guys's opinions on Nine Inch Nail's newest album, released yesterday. I listened to it today, and I must say I really like it.
My ex went to some sort of music festival over the weekend and saw NIN, apparently they kick much **** live. ^^ And apparently he has a "sexy guitarist."
I think it's very, very good, definitely some bite to it. The Hand That Feeds is probably my favorite track next to Right Where It Belongs, but I think it's a very solid album in all tracks.
Pretty Hate Machine was a helluvan album. I just put The Fragile on for the first time in years...totally blows compared to Downward Spiral. No wonder The Fragile is a favourite of angsty teens.
I'd say that Pretty Hate Machine was their best album to date. I'd say that's there only real solid release. Ever other album had "select" really good tracks, but most of the music wasn't really that great.
Perfect Drug's probably their best song to date. As a producer, it's very interesting to listen to, plus it sticks to your brain like glue. That damn chorus....
<!--QuoteBegin-Testament+May 5 2005, 09:00 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Testament @ May 5 2005, 09:00 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Pretty Hate Machine was a helluvan album. I just put The Fragile on for the first time in years...totally blows compared to Downward Spiral. No wonder The Fragile is a favourite of angsty teens. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> Eh?
The fragile is a pretty weak effort by Trent. 2 CD's worth of material fit for a soundtrack. All the while with the same notes.
1,2,3.4
1,2,3.
1,2,3,4.
<i>Yawn</i>.
And it shows, with '99 The Fragile together with a couple of less than stellar ep remixs, Trent went into exile.
It is now 2005 and the new album is pretty much heading into new territory so its interesting what the reviews/critics say.
Do yourself a favour, listen to The Downward Spiral then come back here and tell me what u think of this great classic. (one of the best i associate greatly with his debuts)
Reading comprehension for the win, Lock. I'm saying The Fragile was terrible and the Downward Spiral stomped it. Thus, the last sentence. "No wonder The Fragile is a favourite of angsty teens."
<!--QuoteBegin-Athena+May 5 2005, 05:53 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Athena @ May 5 2005, 05:53 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> My ex went to some sort of music festival over the weekend and saw NIN, apparently they kick much **** live. ^^ And apparently he has a "sexy guitarist."
I think it's very, very good, definitely some bite to it. The Hand That Feeds is probably my favorite track next to Right Where It Belongs, but I think it's a very solid album in all tracks. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> Hmm, I would have to agree with you on The Hand That Feeds, although All The Love In The World would have to be second for me. Or maybe The Line Begins To Blur. I think its a great album regardless.
<!--QuoteBegin-Testament+May 5 2005, 09:31 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Testament @ May 5 2005, 09:31 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Reading comprehension for the win, Lock. I'm saying The Fragile was terrible and the Downward Spiral stomped it. Thus, the last sentence. "No wonder The Fragile is a favourite of angsty teens."
Learn how to read English. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> I need sleep.
I just bought it yesterday. I like The Hand That Feeds, The Line Begins To Blur, and All The Love In The World. I haven't had a chance to listen to all of them enough to see how much I like them.
Right Where It Belongs is probably my fav, followed by The Hand That Feeds.
And yes, live they are amazingly good. Twice earlier this year and twice in july <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin-fix.gif' /><!--endemo--> Live shows FTW
my GF says that The Fragile > all. I don't have an opinion on the matter. to me, differentiating between NiN albums is like differentiating between crap and crap with little bits of corn in it (or should I say Korn in it?). I don't see how one album could be more 'angsty teen' than another when they all sound angsty teeny to me =p of course the crap I listen to could be said to be 'emo teeny' but w/e <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo-->
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seriously, I know I should give NIN a fair chance, but I can never get into the right frame of mind for listening to angry sounding music... I do love Trent's 2 or 3 soft songs (La Mer, Leaving Hope...)
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seriously, I know I should give NIN a fair chance, but I can never get into the right frame of mind for listening to angry sounding music... I do love Trent's 2 or 3 soft songs (La Mer, Leaving Hope...) <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> Pretty Hate Machine is anything but angsty teen music. It's like if you took New Wave and gave it a big pair of balls and alot of wierd distortions. Seriously. Good music all over that album.
I'd say that NIN's worst enemy is it's overly retarded fanbase. Unlike that no talent hack Marilyn Manson, Trent has some real skills in so many areas. I heard that this new album is a little on the lame side, but his older stuff is many times genuinely interesting to listen to. Even if he sounds like a little cry baby half the time. Seriously, half of his songs are like emo meets synthesizers.
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Personally I really liked the fragile, the lyrics weren't the greatest on a few of the tracks, but comeon. "Into the void"? doesn't get much cooler than that in my book. Its one of my favorite songs. "Please" has some of the coolest driving rhythms outside of Tool. "No, you don't" has got to be one of the best **** off songs ever. Man that first explosion of spectra gives me shivers. "Star****ers" was solid and great in the right mood. "Where is Everbody" had a sexy catchy beat. "The Fragile" was periodically pretty moving. "The Great Below" is really atmospheric. The instrumental tracks were awesome in general, and really original. Great rhythms and buildup. Its not as consistently catchy as Pretty Hate machine, and it doesn't have "Closer" but all in all I thought it was pretty damn good. I think it could have probably been cut down to one long album, but I really enjoyed it. I probably listen to it the most of any of NiN's albums. Spin Magazine named it album of the year.
As far as the new one goes, I'm mixed on it. I love "All the Love in the World." The ending with all the layered vocals sounds almost synth-pop its so catchy. "The Hand that Feeds" is pretty damn catchy too, and the fact that he released garage band files for it makes it even more awesome. "Only" has a nice beat. "Right Where it Belongs" feels like the emotional successor to "Hurt" and it really pulls it off I think. Its a little less spare, and a little more contemplative. The album feels really well constructed, but I think my tastes for metal have mellowed some since I started listening to NiN in my teens, and some of it is harder than I like to listen to regularly now. I still really enjoy it though.
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I haven't gotten the CD, but do many of the tracks sound like The Hand That Feeds? That song to me sounds like its trying to get into your head a little too hard- but it is a good theme to get stuck there XD
<!--QuoteBegin-Quaunaut+May 6 2005, 01:26 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Quaunaut @ May 6 2005, 01:26 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> I haven't gotten the CD, but do many of the tracks sound like The Hand That Feeds? That song to me sounds like its trying to get into your head a little too hard- but it is a good theme to get stuck there XD <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> Nope. For somebody religious, I wouldn't think that you'd like The Hand That Feeds. But it's a catchy song. I like Only, and Sunspots too. All The Love In The World is great.
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I bought it like 2 days ago. Me likes.
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Illuminex, I'll pretend like you didn't say that Marilyn Manson has no talent.
The album in general isnt as good as their older albums, only one that i like is 'The Hand That Feeds', sadly. Id love to see them perform live, i hear nothing but good about them.
My favourites from them, 'We're In This Together' 'Dead Souls' and 'Perfect Drug'
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Trent's music is great, however the vast legions of MM fans and emo kids that have chosen him to represent their middle class angst REALLY put me off nowadays.
Snobbery? Yeah. But I can't enjoy music if it makes me think of 16 year olds sitting in their room crying about how no one understands them.
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edited May 2005
<!--QuoteBegin-Grendel+May 12 2005, 05:03 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Grendel @ May 12 2005, 05:03 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Trent's music is great, however the vast legions of MM fans and emo kids that have chosen him to represent their middle class angst REALLY put me off nowadays.
Snobbery? Yeah. But I can't enjoy music if it makes me think of 16 year olds sitting in their room crying about how no one understands them. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> I'm adding to your dilemma >: D
Great Album, hands down to Reznor. Btw did you guys know the very same Reznor released a custom soundpack for doom3? The man is multitalented alright <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->
And for you all that call NiN for "they", know its a one man band. Reznor does the production all by himself, plays every instrument himself in the studio while recording the albums. Hes just unable to do all that live.
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<!--QuoteBegin-Tykjen+May 12 2005, 12:35 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Tykjen @ May 12 2005, 12:35 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Great Album, hands down to Reznor. Btw did you guys know the very same Reznor released a custom soundpack for doom3? The man is multitalented alright <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->
And for you all that call NiN for "they", know its a one man band. Reznor does the production all by himself, plays every instrument himself in the studio while recording the albums. Hes just unable to do all that live. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> I think you're missing something. A something that defined the early NiN albums.
<!--QuoteBegin-Grendel+May 12 2005, 06:28 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Grendel @ May 12 2005, 06:28 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-Tykjen+May 12 2005, 12:35 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Tykjen @ May 12 2005, 12:35 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->And for you all that call NiN for "they", know its a one man band. Reznor does the production all by himself, plays every instrument himself in the studio while recording the albums. Hes just unable to do all that live. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> I think you're missing something. A something that defined the early NiN albums.
<span style='font-size:21pt;line-height:100%'>Chris Vrenna</span> <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> Not only that, but the reason that Pretty Hate Machine stands out head and shoulders above the rest of NIN's output is that Reznor wasn't the producer. Reznor's idea of production is just to add layer upon layer of crap to the mix, with the effect that all too often his songs turn to mush.
edit: ooh, I see Vrenna has some records of his own
Packaging is still the same digipack type of packaging you see in his previous releases. The only disappointing part is that there isnt any booklet/lack of artwork <!--emo&:(--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/sad-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='sad-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->
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I just can't wait to see them live again.
I saw them twice in london earlier this year and they were amazing.
I think it's very, very good, definitely some bite to it. The Hand That Feeds is probably my favorite track next to Right Where It Belongs, but I think it's a very solid album in all tracks.
I still love Downward Spiral the most.
Still love Downward Spiral. (Have the SACD deluxe version!)
/me grumbles
I'd say that Pretty Hate Machine was their best album to date. I'd say that's there only real solid release. Ever other album had "select" really good tracks, but most of the music wasn't really that great.
Perfect Drug's probably their best song to date. As a producer, it's very interesting to listen to, plus it sticks to your brain like glue. That damn chorus....
Eh?
The fragile is a pretty weak effort by Trent. 2 CD's worth of material fit for a soundtrack. All the while with the same notes.
1,2,3.4
1,2,3.
1,2,3,4.
<i>Yawn</i>.
And it shows, with '99 The Fragile together with a couple of less than stellar ep remixs, Trent went into exile.
It is now 2005 and the new album is pretty much heading into new territory so its interesting what the reviews/critics say.
Do yourself a favour, listen to The Downward Spiral then come back here and tell me what u think of this great classic. (one of the best i associate greatly with his debuts)
Learn how to read English.
I think it's very, very good, definitely some bite to it. The Hand That Feeds is probably my favorite track next to Right Where It Belongs, but I think it's a very solid album in all tracks. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
Hmm, I would have to agree with you on The Hand That Feeds, although All The Love In The World would have to be second for me. Or maybe The Line Begins To Blur. I think its a great album regardless.
Learn how to read English. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
I need sleep.
Now.
And yes, live they are amazingly good. Twice earlier this year and twice in july <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->
Live shows FTW
Oh and You Know What You Are is killer live.
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seriously, I know I should give NIN a fair chance, but I can never get into the right frame of mind for listening to angry sounding music... I do love Trent's 2 or 3 soft songs (La Mer, Leaving Hope...)
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seriously, I know I should give NIN a fair chance, but I can never get into the right frame of mind for listening to angry sounding music... I do love Trent's 2 or 3 soft songs (La Mer, Leaving Hope...) <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
Pretty Hate Machine is anything but angsty teen music. It's like if you took New Wave and gave it a big pair of balls and alot of wierd distortions. Seriously. Good music all over that album.
I'd say that NIN's worst enemy is it's overly retarded fanbase. Unlike that no talent hack Marilyn Manson, Trent has some real skills in so many areas. I heard that this new album is a little on the lame side, but his older stuff is many times genuinely interesting to listen to. Even if he sounds like a little cry baby half the time. Seriously, half of his songs are like emo meets synthesizers.
"Into the void"? doesn't get much cooler than that in my book. Its one of my favorite songs. "Please" has some of the coolest driving rhythms outside of Tool. "No, you don't" has got to be one of the best **** off songs ever. Man that first explosion of spectra gives me shivers. "Star****ers" was solid and great in the right mood. "Where is Everbody" had a sexy catchy beat. "The Fragile" was periodically pretty moving. "The Great Below" is really atmospheric. The instrumental tracks were awesome in general, and really original. Great rhythms and buildup. Its not as consistently catchy as Pretty Hate machine, and it doesn't have "Closer" but all in all I thought it was pretty damn good. I think it could have probably been cut down to one long album, but I really enjoyed it. I probably listen to it the most of any of NiN's albums. Spin Magazine named it album of the year.
As far as the new one goes, I'm mixed on it. I love "All the Love in the World." The ending with all the layered vocals sounds almost synth-pop its so catchy. "The Hand that Feeds" is pretty damn catchy too, and the fact that he released garage band files for it makes it even more awesome. "Only" has a nice beat. "Right Where it Belongs" feels like the emotional successor to "Hurt" and it really pulls it off I think. Its a little less spare, and a little more contemplative. The album feels really well constructed, but I think my tastes for metal have mellowed some since I started listening to NiN in my teens, and some of it is harder than I like to listen to regularly now. I still really enjoy it though.
Nope. For somebody religious, I wouldn't think that you'd like The Hand That Feeds. But it's a catchy song. I like Only, and Sunspots too. All The Love In The World is great.
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I bought it like 2 days ago. Me likes.
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Illuminex, I'll pretend like you didn't say that Marilyn Manson has no talent.
My favourites from them, 'We're In This Together' 'Dead Souls' and 'Perfect Drug'
Snobbery? Yeah. But I can't enjoy music if it makes me think of 16 year olds sitting in their room crying about how no one understands them.
Snobbery? Yeah. But I can't enjoy music if it makes me think of 16 year olds sitting in their room crying about how no one understands them. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
I'm adding to your dilemma >: D
Except for the emo part. And I'm 17 ftw.
And for you all that call NiN for "they", know its a one man band. Reznor does the production all by himself, plays every instrument himself in the studio while recording the albums. Hes just unable to do all that live.
And for you all that call NiN for "they", know its a one man band. Reznor does the production all by himself, plays every instrument himself in the studio while recording the albums. Hes just unable to do all that live. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
I think you're missing something. A something that defined the early NiN albums.
<span style='font-size:21pt;line-height:100%'>Chris Vrenna</span>
Love NIN, cant wait to hear it.
I think you're missing something. A something that defined the early NiN albums.
<span style='font-size:21pt;line-height:100%'>Chris Vrenna</span> <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Not only that, but the reason that Pretty Hate Machine stands out head and shoulders above the rest of NIN's output is that Reznor wasn't the producer. Reznor's idea of production is just to add layer upon layer of crap to the mix, with the effect that all too often his songs turn to mush.
edit: ooh, I see Vrenna has some records of his own
Packaging is still the same digipack type of packaging you see in his previous releases. The only disappointing part is that there isnt any booklet/lack of artwork <!--emo&:(--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/sad-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='sad-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->
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But overall, the album is FAB! Well worth the 18 $ i payed for it.