Next Ut Game Announced

theclamtheclam Join Date: 2004-08-01 Member: 30290Members
<div class="IPBDescription">UT2K...7?</div> <a href='http://www.gamespot.com/news/2005/05/09/news_6123942.html' target='_blank'>http://www.gamespot.com/news/2005/05/09/news_6123942.html</a>

Well, now we know how silly it would be to compare next gen UT screenshots to Source.

Still, this means that they'll have a LONG time to refine the gameplay, which is a really good thing.
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  • TestamentTestament Join Date: 2002-11-02 Member: 4037Members
    This was announced at least two months ago, and it's NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT UT2k7. It's simply Envy. And I'm not sure what to think of it. UT and UT2k4 were pure ownage on my face, but Envy is, apparently, removing some of that high-speed stufff from UT and 2k4.
  • ChronoChrono Local flyboy Join Date: 2003-08-05 Member: 18989Members
    damn now i have to buy a new computer <!--emo&:(--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/sad-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='sad-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->
  • TestamentTestament Join Date: 2002-11-02 Member: 4037Members
    Late 2006, early/mid 2007.
  • SwiftspearSwiftspear Custim tital Join Date: 2003-10-29 Member: 22097Members
    edited May 2005
    <a href='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=92975' target='_blank'>I beat you</a>

    [edit] I like your new screenies though.
  • VenmochVenmoch Join Date: 2002-08-07 Member: 1093Members
    <!--QuoteBegin-Testament+May 10 2005, 06:20 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Testament @ May 10 2005, 06:20 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> UT and UT2k4 were pure ownage on my face, but Envy is, apparently, removing some of that high-speed stufff from UT and 2k4. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Wait! So the gameplay might not be ****?! Or will it simply be an Unreal Battlefield Vietnam?
  • SwiftspearSwiftspear Custim tital Join Date: 2003-10-29 Member: 22097Members
    <!--QuoteBegin-Venmoch+May 10 2005, 02:34 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Venmoch @ May 10 2005, 02:34 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-Testament+May 10 2005, 06:20 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Testament @ May 10 2005, 06:20 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> UT and UT2k4 were pure ownage on my face, but Envy is, apparently, removing some of that high-speed stufff from UT and 2k4. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Wait! So the gameplay might not be ****?! Or will it simply be an Unreal Battlefield Vietnam? <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    From what I hear that is the idea. Thier trying to get the game back into a closer quarters feel, enphasize a little more stratigy then before and what not.

    Rest assured gameplay is the #1 priority. They are doing boarderline excessive gameplay testing at this point in time, and the plan is to not prettify up the game until they KNOW they are in a sweet spot.
  • SizerSizer Join Date: 2003-10-08 Member: 21531Members
    Worst parts of 2k* are the pinball movements and double jumping. They had to upsize map geometry to compensate for this, and it made all the players look like shrunken midgets. The scaling is so off and it looks stupid. Sad that they're keeping double jumping.
  • Nemesis_ZeroNemesis_Zero Old European Join Date: 2002-01-25 Member: 75Members, Retired Developer, NS1 Playtester, Constellation
    I can live with the doublejump if they only lay those ridiculous adrenaline combos off.
  • CondizzleCondizzle Join Date: 2004-10-05 Member: 32107Members
    I'll miss the trial maps though... but that's it. The jumping didn't add anything to the game. It was actually worse than the original UT for me. The new assault was good, but it still wasn't as fun as the old one, even with the better graphics.
  • GeminosityGeminosity :3 Join Date: 2003-09-08 Member: 20667Members
    yeah I felt the same condizzle :/

    I wouldn't mind them adding the melee weapons from unreal championship 2 though ^~
  • TestamentTestament Join Date: 2002-11-02 Member: 4037Members
    Sigh. The point of UT2k4 movement is pinballing effects. It's fun, makes fights alot more frantic feeling, and in general brings back the one thing modern gaming lacks...a true deathmatch feel. UT movement was just as fast, just far more limited.
  • GeminosityGeminosity :3 Join Date: 2003-09-08 Member: 20667Members
    by "true" you mean quake... if I wanted quake combat I'd play quake funnily enough :p

    UT felt different from the quake games yet for some weird reason UT2kx games moved more towards Q3 rather than continue to refine it's already strangely unique style.
    I've always moaned that UT2kx is too quakey and the news that they're trying to re-instate it back to more 'UT' styled gaming is music to my ears.
    I really don't see why they should try to be another game when the one they had was perfectly fine for the audience it drew anyways.
  • TestamentTestament Join Date: 2002-11-02 Member: 4037Members
    edited May 2005
    I love both UT and UT2k4 endlessly. Both of them are excellent games. UT2k4 is far better than Quake 3.

    And by "true" I mean actual deathmatch. None of this teamgame **** with cheap deathmatch tacked on, but a game MADE for deathmatch. I hate teamgames, because I hate playing with people. People are stupid, and are generally nothing but a hinderance in games...why would I want to team with anyone? Give me deathmatch.
  • GeminosityGeminosity :3 Join Date: 2003-09-08 Member: 20667Members
    I wouldn't say the old UT was a teamgame with deathmatch tagged on :p

    The old UT's deathmatch was much more fun for me than the ut2kx games offer. Why? Because I find 'frantic' FPSses to be a bit dull in all honesty; everything is going so fast that you don't really have time to really register personality or playing style behind the person under your crosshair. Everyone is just another walking target... half the time you don't even care who you're shooting as long as it's a frag.

    It's like the old UT had a slightly slower but more personal fighting style to it. The current one feels more like being dropped in a blender; blood everywhere and constant movement :/

    I just find that the fun factor of the speedier games is somewhat limited as it just comes across to me as being somewhat shallow. Course; that's just my own personal opinion and in many ways it's also something I consider 'quakey' :3
  • TestamentTestament Join Date: 2002-11-02 Member: 4037Members
    edited May 2005
    Reading comprehension ftw. I've said the old UT was a great game, more than once. Hell, it's one of my all-time favourite games. I'm going to avoid calling you an idiot 'cuz I just spent 3 hours doing that to my WoW guild, but yeah.

    And UT2k4 is only like being dropped into a blender on 6 person or more servers. There's no reason to play ANY deathmatch game with more than 4-6 people. Anything higher is just a cluster****. Then again, I find UT2k4 all-together far too slow paced, even if I do love it.

    (The only good thing to come out of Quake 3 is Promode trickjumping, which UT2k4 has in droves compared to UT2k4. UT2k4 really needs promode.)

    And as far as jumping, it didn't add anything? You could leap a good 35-40 feet over someones head and blast them in the back of the skull with a flak cannon by doing a double-wall-jump. It was wonderful if you took the 20 minutes to learn the basics of walldodging.


    EDIT: Spelling, new paragraph, new sentence in parethenses, and this edit message. Anda new paragraph.
  • CondizzleCondizzle Join Date: 2004-10-05 Member: 32107Members
    I have to agree with Geminosity. The original UT2k4 seemed more fun in the original. The new one is too fast with all combos and trickjumps. Not to say that the old one is much slower though. Of course, playing the original UT for years may have something to do with me loving it more.
  • GeminosityGeminosity :3 Join Date: 2003-09-08 Member: 20667Members
    edited May 2005
    an idiot huh test? That's ok then... I won't call you one instead for not noticing I never accused you of saying UT was a bad game nor that you called UT 'UT2k4' throughout your post making it confusing as heck :3

    I merely said that I didn't think it was a teamgame with deathmatch tagged on and explained why I wasn't a fan of UT2k4, especially when it's put beside it's older relative ^^

    Oh and yeah... the more players the more hectic it is but I like having a fair number of people in my games and large maps so I guess that might be another reason for my lack of love for UT2k4 DM :p

    I liked onslaught as others also admitted but I liked fighting in the turrets and vehicles; fighting on foot was tiresome thanks to the large areas and people hopping about like a whole flea circus on about 30 different kinds of crack.



    <b>edit:</b> weee typo!


    <b>edit 2:</b> as for wall jumping, double jumping and all that; sure it takes skill but I honestly don't want people floating about all the time in an FPS. That's the kind of thing I prefer to play smash bros for rather than burn time on UT2k4.

    My basic complaint is that it's UT2k4; I wanted more UT with new stuff added, not a game that feels totally different even on fundamental levels so that it resembles some weird messed up mutation caused by quake 3 and smash bros having a one night stand :p
  • TestamentTestament Join Date: 2002-11-02 Member: 4037Members
    edited May 2005
    Saying "you didn't think it was a teamgame with deathmatch tagged" implied you thought I was referring to UT.

    And Onslaught was one of my less favoured modes of UT2k4. Too vehicle focused. I hate vehicles in multiplayer games. Only game that did it well was Tribes, because vehicles were only useful as a team for dropping in attack squads.
  • GeminosityGeminosity :3 Join Date: 2003-09-08 Member: 20667Members
    well considering the last 3-4 posts had been about comparing UT to UT2k4 and you didn't really mention any other examples of games or even really remotely hint you were talking about "anything that's not UT or UT2k4" what was I supposed to think? You left it open to interpretation and I interpretated it.

    Communicating your point poorly and calling others idiots isn't a good way to go about things y'know :/


    I loved tribes ^^
  • TestamentTestament Join Date: 2002-11-02 Member: 4037Members
    I communicate my point fine. If I meant UT, I would have said UT. You'd think after so many arguments here, people would smarten up and realize unless I specifically say something sucks, I'm not talking specifically about it. I don't dance around and say "OHH, ALL OF THIS SUCKS" when I mean one specific thing. UT kicked ****, lots of ****, and so does UT2k4. Team games don't. People ruin team games.
  • GeminosityGeminosity :3 Join Date: 2003-09-08 Member: 20667Members
    edited May 2005
    yeah well, assuming everyone knows your posting style generally isn't a good idea.

    I may have got the wrong end of the stick but if you leave your posts as open as that then I don't think you have much merit to sling accusations of mental deficiency around :p

    let's face it; your post was a reply to mine in which I talked about UT's deathmatch style. You go through the second paragraph talking about deathmatch without really mentioning any specific example so I took it to mean we were still on the same subject.

    Alone, your post makes sense the way you talk about it; taking what others have said into account and that it's a reply, I think my interpretation of it was fair enough even if it wasn't what you meant. Of course, rather than just saying "ah wait that's not what I meant" you come out with a "omg joo stupid" attitude.

    Even though you keep mentioning it so often and to such extremes that it seems sarcastic, I suspect your posted view on teamgames explains your posting style as much as anything; alone, without context to what's around it.
    No wonder you don't like teamgames :p



    <b>edit:</b> by the way... I still don't see why you think I said you thought UT 'sucked'. you might not like teamgames but you still said you liked UT; I was just explaining my personal take on UT.
  • TequilaTequila Join Date: 2003-08-13 Member: 19660Members
    I hope that mean it when they say they're taking the gameplay back to the feel of the original UT.
  • CondizzleCondizzle Join Date: 2004-10-05 Member: 32107Members
    I hope Testament and Geminosity don't kill each other.
  • GeminosityGeminosity :3 Join Date: 2003-09-08 Member: 20667Members
    huh? lol
    I'm not angry at him or anything, I'm just trying to point out he's being a bit rough :3

    I really do miss the fun of UT though...
  • lolfighterlolfighter Snark, Dire Join Date: 2003-04-20 Member: 15693Members
    I guess I'll just jump on the bandwagon: UT2k4 is an excellent game, as was UT. I prefer it over UT because I like Onslaught, but I liked the slower, somewhat more tactical style of UT more. If the next UT feels more like the original UT while adding the gameplay advances of UT2k4, it'll own so much that I'll stop wearing pance just so I can start wearing them again. Whatever that's supposed to mean.
  • TestamentTestament Join Date: 2002-11-02 Member: 4037Members
    edited May 2005
    I'm not angry. When I get angry, things break, and animals squeal in pain. I don't get upset over the internet. This is just an argument. I'm rough because it's not worth softening any of my blows. That's more insulting than being myself.

    Edit: I fully agree with lolfighter. Just don't take my wall-dodge away. I can live without double-jumping. ;(
  • DaJMastaDaJMasta Join Date: 2005-01-10 Member: 34750Members, Constellation
    <!--QuoteBegin--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->And Onslaught was one of my less favoured modes of UT2k4. Too vehicle focused. I hate vehicles in multiplayer games. Only game that did it well was Tribes, because vehicles were only useful as a team for dropping in attack squads.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    Well at least when I played, i could make some of the best progress on foot, sometimes vehicles would just draw fire and attention.

    And its my personal opinion that they added the trickjumps and adrenaline combos to give the game more of a sporting event feel, emphasizing the "Tournament" in their name. I just don't think that many FPS gamers are looking for that <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->

    And yea....teammates aren't that bad, theres usually not too many auful ones if you pick a decent server. How exactly do you feel about playing NS then? Since theres no way to be not on a team and all....
  • TestamentTestament Join Date: 2002-11-02 Member: 4037Members
    edited May 2005
    I haven't played NS since 2.01. <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo-->

    NS was fine for teamplay because it forced people to act as a team and not be retards. Honestly, there's a reason I've avoided online gaming for the past 6 or 7 months...and that reason is people. Only online game I play now is WoW, and I've only been playing retail for a week or two.

    And no, I'm not Private Coleman. I'm just a very angry person. So a preemptive shut the hell up is here.


    EDIT: I think I have edititis. I don't think I've ever made a post I haven't edited or added to.
  • ANeMANeM Join Date: 2003-05-13 Member: 16267Members, Constellation
    UT2k4.. Hmm. Didn't like it. For reasons that seem to have already been pointed out.
    It was just too floaty, too many crackrabbits, Double jump standard and the quad-jump mutator.
    Ons is nice, but only if you get in a vechicle, and you never get a vechicle.
    And of course, due to the "battlefield" factor, people will generally just grab multi-person vechicles and just take off, without waiting for others to jump in.
    But even if you could get in, its generally not all that fun. For the most part, the driver gets the best weapon at their disposal, leaving everyone else, people who don't even get the enjoyment of being able to drive the damn thing, with some useless peashooter.
    and as I said, its only fun in a vechicle. On foot its just too open to do anything with any of the hand held weaponry. You just spam weapons and jump around and hope the other guy dies.

    and for the maps without vechicles and wide open spaces..
    Well, its just as bad.

    oh well.
    I only bought UT2k4 for the mods.
  • LegionnairedLegionnaired Join Date: 2002-04-30 Member: 552Members, Constellation
    ...

    Tribes2 > UT200X

    That is all.
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