I just noticed this topic, so if you'll pardon my ignoring the rest of the posts...
1. Since the Kharra are infestations, I don't think that vehicles would be overly necessary to the gameplay. I mean, who uses an ATV in a submarine, am I rite? The same is true for outdoor maps, but a twist could be thrown in where the Kharra have infested a planet based station and have built themselves up there.
2. New weapons would be a fantastic addition to the game, espescially for the marines who could use a sniper rifle and/or a flamethrower. I think a purchase option at the armory would be a better way of obtaining weapons and jetpacks rather than having the commander drop them on the ground for anyone to pick up. (That gets to be a bum when someone nabs a jetpack intended for you)
3. A training level would be an awesome addition to the game, but I believe strongly in total immersion learning.
<b>4. This is where, out of all the possibilities I think things can be done to improve the gameplay. With a wider tech tree for each race, we can have longer games. Sometimes the NS games can wrap themselves up quickly with a coordinated marine rush and if it happens consistently, people get bummed out and leave. If there was an emphasis on extending the game time a little bit that came from a necessity to reach the end of your team's tech tree, things would go on a lot nicer. This wouldn't mean that a co-ordinated rush would be out of the question, it would just be more difficult.</b>
5. & 6. New aliens and new alien chambers aren't really necessary, and if the aliens are given a little bit more to their tech tree along with the marines these two things definately won't be necessary.
7. Alternate fire isn't a good idea because the quick changes that the pop-up menu allows are pretty integral to the aliens in NS and are important to both sides in CO.
8. I'm not a clanner, so I have no opinion on clan support.
9. As shown from CS:S, stat **** are very uncool and a ranking system would drag that attitude into play.
I would really like to see personal res for marines on NS maps so they can purchase what they need from the armory and added tech to both sides that would be necessary for either side to win a match on an NS map.
Ok, how do i say that in english. What about online Rankings like you can see them in the new Battlefield 2 Game. The Person with the highest Rank, a General normally, have some extra functions. He can fire the Artillery for example. My Idea would be to include Stuff like that into ns. Only the highest skilled persons get access to the com chair for example. I think there are alot of team functions like the usage of radar or sensorys that would be controlled by those few persons on the server. Every function that would be addet would deliver a huge amount of new tactical possibilities to the game even if its such a small option like requesting a radar scan.
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I think the Marines should get more Weapons like a sniper rifle or 2 pistols or rifles with a small zoom. Quite like in counter Strike. I think 4 Marine Weapons are not enough. More Weapons would increase the possibilities and the fun. And funmaps are the most played maps. I also think that there should be an alien that could fire with something like a machine gun. I just remember the alien gun on Half-Life Deathmatch, the one with these bees that can fly behind corners. That would also be a nice weapon for the aliens.
Ok i hope my english wasnt too worse to read. <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->
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<!--QuoteBegin--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->I think the Marines should get more Weapons like a sniper rifle or 2 pistols or rifles with a small zoom. Quite like in counter Strike. I think 4 Marine Weapons are not enough. More Weapons would increase the possibilities and the fun. And funmaps are the most played maps. I also think that there should be an alien that could fire with something like a machine gun. I just remember the alien gun on Half-Life Deathmatch, the one with these bees that can fly behind corners. That would also be a nice weapon for the aliens.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
why would u need a sniper rifle in ns? ns is close combat and in big maps over large distances 6 pistolshots are enough and the same result = alien is dead
First off, I am a VERY new player, so this is just what I think, bear that in mind, I'm not trying to be "OMG WTH THIS SI HOW IS SHUD BE!" <!--emo&;)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/wink-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wink-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->
But anyway, I really find it hard to answer this poll as I'm really enjoying NS just the way it is. It's tempting to ask for new weapons ebacsue when I first started playing, I found the small choice fairly limiting, but after just a few games, I came to appreciate the simplicity and realism (yes, I know, space aliens and the like is VERY realistic <!--emo&;)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/wink-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wink-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->) in only have the choice we already do. Much as any military organisation today, an organisation such as the marine force will have a small selection of specialised weapons, all identical and issued to it's troops. Much like the British Army has the standard L-85 Assault Rifle (LMG), the SAWlike minime (HMG), the standard grenade launcher/underslung (nade launcher) etc etc. People say Counter-Strike strive for realism, but while the wide range of weapon selection is nice, it's hardly realistic. As NS is also a more pacey game, it's nice being able to go, "I want this." or, "My troops need this weapon for this assault" without too much deliberation.
The vehicles and outdoor maps sound good in theory, but why does it sound as though they are mutually exclusive? Apart from possibly biasing the game (assuming the Kharaa don't get vehicles), vehicles encourage 'carhogging' and people forgoing teamwork cause they want to play motorist. Outdoor maps for larger teams would be something I personally would like to see though.
A training level, or perhaps a more complex 'mini-tutorial' for both sides would be a great boon for new players like myself though. The first time I played I had no idea what I was doing and got exceptionally confused. It couldn't hurt, IMO.
I guess the new techs, aliens and alt fire would come under the same umbrella as new weaponry, so I'll not put forward any further opinion on it, I can't speak for the clan support, but I share the fear that a ranking system would have people player just FOR their rank.
<i>In my (wholly newbish) opinion</i> most of these are excellent idea's with large potential downsides. I guess it all depends on how they are implemented and how the players decide to deal with them.
Note: My apologies if I sound arrogant considering my newness to the game, it's really isn't intended to come across that way. <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->
Comments
1. Since the Kharra are infestations, I don't think that vehicles would be overly necessary to the gameplay. I mean, who uses an ATV in a submarine, am I rite? The same is true for outdoor maps, but a twist could be thrown in where the Kharra have infested a planet based station and have built themselves up there.
2. New weapons would be a fantastic addition to the game, espescially for the marines who could use a sniper rifle and/or a flamethrower. I think a purchase option at the armory would be a better way of obtaining weapons and jetpacks rather than having the commander drop them on the ground for anyone to pick up. (That gets to be a bum when someone nabs a jetpack intended for you)
3. A training level would be an awesome addition to the game, but I believe strongly in total immersion learning.
<b>4. This is where, out of all the possibilities I think things can be done to improve the gameplay. With a wider tech tree for each race, we can have longer games. Sometimes the NS games can wrap themselves up quickly with a coordinated marine rush and if it happens consistently, people get bummed out and leave. If there was an emphasis on extending the game time a little bit that came from a necessity to reach the end of your team's tech tree, things would go on a lot nicer. This wouldn't mean that a co-ordinated rush would be out of the question, it would just be more difficult.</b>
5. & 6. New aliens and new alien chambers aren't really necessary, and if the aliens are given a little bit more to their tech tree along with the marines these two things definately won't be necessary.
7. Alternate fire isn't a good idea because the quick changes that the pop-up menu allows are pretty integral to the aliens in NS and are important to both sides in CO.
8. I'm not a clanner, so I have no opinion on clan support.
9. As shown from CS:S, stat **** are very uncool and a ranking system would drag that attitude into play.
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I would really like to see personal res for marines on NS maps so they can purchase what they need from the armory and added tech to both sides that would be necessary for either side to win a match on an NS map.
Just some thoughts.
What about online Rankings like you can see them in the new Battlefield 2 Game. The Person with the highest Rank, a General normally, have some extra functions. He can fire the Artillery for example.
My Idea would be to include Stuff like that into ns.
Only the highest skilled persons get access to the com chair for example.
I think there are alot of team functions like the usage of radar or sensorys that would be controlled by those few persons on the server.
Every function that would be addet would deliver a huge amount of new tactical possibilities to the game even if its such a small option like requesting a radar scan.
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I think the Marines should get more Weapons like a sniper rifle or 2 pistols or rifles with a small zoom. Quite like in counter Strike. I think 4 Marine Weapons are not enough. More Weapons would increase the possibilities and the fun. And funmaps are the most played maps. I also think that there should be an alien that could fire with something like a machine gun. I just remember the alien gun on Half-Life Deathmatch, the one with these bees that can fly behind corners. That would also be a nice weapon for the aliens.
Ok i hope my english wasnt too worse to read. <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->
Counter Selection: Source?
why would u need a sniper rifle in ns? ns is close combat and in big maps over large distances 6 pistolshots are enough and the same result = alien is dead
sry for my english..
But anyway, I really find it hard to answer this poll as I'm really enjoying NS just the way it is. It's tempting to ask for new weapons ebacsue when I first started playing, I found the small choice fairly limiting, but after just a few games, I came to appreciate the simplicity and realism (yes, I know, space aliens and the like is VERY realistic <!--emo&;)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/wink-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wink-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->) in only have the choice we already do. Much as any military organisation today, an organisation such as the marine force will have a small selection of specialised weapons, all identical and issued to it's troops. Much like the British Army has the standard L-85 Assault Rifle (LMG), the SAWlike minime (HMG), the standard grenade launcher/underslung (nade launcher) etc etc. People say Counter-Strike strive for realism, but while the wide range of weapon selection is nice, it's hardly realistic. As NS is also a more pacey game, it's nice being able to go, "I want this." or, "My troops need this weapon for this assault" without too much deliberation.
The vehicles and outdoor maps sound good in theory, but why does it sound as though they are mutually exclusive? Apart from possibly biasing the game (assuming the Kharaa don't get vehicles), vehicles encourage 'carhogging' and people forgoing teamwork cause they want to play motorist. Outdoor maps for larger teams would be something I personally would like to see though.
A training level, or perhaps a more complex 'mini-tutorial' for both sides would be a great boon for new players like myself though. The first time I played I had no idea what I was doing and got exceptionally confused. It couldn't hurt, IMO.
I guess the new techs, aliens and alt fire would come under the same umbrella as new weaponry, so I'll not put forward any further opinion on it, I can't speak for the clan support, but I share the fear that a ranking system would have people player just FOR their rank.
<i>In my (wholly newbish) opinion</i> most of these are excellent idea's with large potential downsides. I guess it all depends on how they are implemented and how the players decide to deal with them.
Note: My apologies if I sound arrogant considering my newness to the game, it's really isn't intended to come across that way. <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->