Forum Request To Mod & Members

ThaldarinThaldarin Alonzi! Join Date: 2003-07-15 Member: 18173Members, Constellation
<div class="IPBDescription">Regarding race, nationality and skin...</div> In the last few days there has been alot of race topics all at once. There has been a problem for quite some time on the board with them but I don't see how it got how it did. So I am requesting this..

Members: Try not to spark off a comment which will end up in a race row, e.g. "I blame the French" seems to be quite popular.

Mods: It gets really annoying to have topics locked and taken off track because of the minority who start off racial rows. We really need some swift temp banning instead of warnings to make people think twice about doing it again.

PS: You can flame me if you wish, but it's really getting out of hand.
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  • KungFuDiscoMonkeyKungFuDiscoMonkey Creator of ns_altair 日本福岡県 Join Date: 2003-03-15 Member: 14555Members, NS1 Playtester, Reinforced - Onos
    edited July 2005
    /me flames Thaldarin

    I think belief systems should be added to that list (eg, muslems, christians, etc)
    but I agree.
  • QuaunautQuaunaut The longest seven days in history... Join Date: 2003-03-21 Member: 14759Members, Constellation, Reinforced - Shadow
    <!--QuoteBegin-KungFuDiscoMonkey+Jul 8 2005, 06:51 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (KungFuDiscoMonkey @ Jul 8 2005, 06:51 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> /me flames Thaldarin

    I think belief systems should be added to that list (eg, muslems, christians, etc)
    but I agree. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Add that to the list, and I agree.
  • lolfighterlolfighter Snark, Dire Join Date: 2003-04-20 Member: 15693Members
    Indeed. Only moderators should have the "license to kill" regarding threads. Currently, normal members have it too:
    Don't like a thread? A quick "lol french suck" will get it locked! Hooray!

    It's really annoying to have your thread locked because of jackasses like that while they go completely free. It's as if it's the threadmaker is made responsible for any- and everything said in the thread, not those who actually say it.


    So I can only say amen to this request. If people say things along the lines of "lol french suck," please lock the account, not the thread.
  • SupernornSupernorn Best. Picture. Ever. Made. Ever. Join Date: 2002-11-07 Member: 7608Members, Constellation
    A simple solution would be to ignore comments like this instead of retaliating and completely derailing the topic. Its not science people, its common sense.
  • CForresterCForrester P0rk(h0p Join Date: 2002-10-05 Member: 1439Members, Constellation
    <!--QuoteBegin-Supernorn+Jul 8 2005, 10:02 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Supernorn @ Jul 8 2005, 10:02 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> A simple solution would be to ignore comments like this instead of retaliating and completely derailing the topic. Its not science people, its common sense. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    But since nobody is going to do that, alternative measures must be used. <!--emo&;)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/wink-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wink-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->
  • ThaldarinThaldarin Alonzi&#33; Join Date: 2003-07-15 Member: 18173Members, Constellation
    <!--QuoteBegin-CForrester+Jul 8 2005, 03:07 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (CForrester @ Jul 8 2005, 03:07 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-Supernorn+Jul 8 2005, 10:02 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Supernorn @ Jul 8 2005, 10:02 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> A simple solution would be to ignore comments like this instead of retaliating and completely derailing the topic. Its not science people, its common sense. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    But since nobody is going to do that, alternative measures must be used. <!--emo&;)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/wink-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wink-fix.gif' /><!--endemo--> <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    The idea was you ignored his comment not to derail it. Supernorn left you a test and you failed! <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo-->

    Although I agree with CForrester in regards to your comment 'Norn. It's just not going to happen when tempers flare.
  • QuaunautQuaunaut The longest seven days in history... Join Date: 2003-03-21 Member: 14759Members, Constellation, Reinforced - Shadow
    <!--QuoteBegin-Thaldarin+Jul 8 2005, 07:09 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Thaldarin @ Jul 8 2005, 07:09 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-CForrester+Jul 8 2005, 03:07 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (CForrester @ Jul 8 2005, 03:07 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-Supernorn+Jul 8 2005, 10:02 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Supernorn @ Jul 8 2005, 10:02 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> A simple solution would be to ignore comments like this instead of retaliating and completely derailing the topic. Its not science people, its common sense. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    But since nobody is going to do that, alternative measures must be used. <!--emo&;)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/wink-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wink-fix.gif' /><!--endemo--> <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    The idea was you ignored his comment not to derail it. Supernorn left you a test and you failed! <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo-->

    Although I agree with CForrester in regards to your comment 'Norn. It's just not going to happen when tempers flare. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Yeah. Race and Religion aren't things to be abandoned so easily.
  • DiscoZombieDiscoZombie Join Date: 2003-08-05 Member: 18951Members
    edited July 2005
    I think it's usually pretty easy to tell when people are seriously being racist and when they're not and they're just teasing certain forum members from a certain country instead...

    when people are seriously being racist, they need to be modded. when people are just teasing and obviously don't hate the country/race/religion in question, then people need to take the sticks out of their bums and chuckle along.

    PS: it's so cold in this room, I'm wrapped up in a robe like a damn dirty Buddhist <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->
  • lolfighterlolfighter Snark, Dire Join Date: 2003-04-20 Member: 15693Members
    edited July 2005
    "No, I wasn't racist, I was just teasing them! It's not MY fault, it's the damned french's fault! Punish THEM, not me! They deserve it!"

    Oh yeah, totally not my fault at all. I can be hostile as much as I want as long as I say that it's just fun and giggles if confronted with it. Gotcha.

    Edit: Oh right, should cut down on the sarcasm.
  • DiscoZombieDiscoZombie Join Date: 2003-08-05 Member: 18951Members
    <!--QuoteBegin-RobbyC+Jul 8 2005, 09:42 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (RobbyC @ Jul 8 2005, 09:42 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> If you don't know what Thaldarin is talking about, it's the Olympic's 2012 and the London Explosions threads. Maybe others, but i'm not sure... <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    ah, well, if people are making those sort of comments in a thread about bombings in London, that's no place for joking so I can see getting a little upset about<i> that</i>...
  • ThaldarinThaldarin Alonzi&#33; Join Date: 2003-07-15 Member: 18173Members, Constellation
    The Olympics 2012 and one of CWAG's recent comments in such a short space of time (12hours) concerns me. The whole race / france thing has been 6-12 months now and it's tiring.
  • SupernornSupernorn Best. Picture. Ever. Made. Ever. Join Date: 2002-11-07 Member: 7608Members, Constellation
    Really? I thought the "France really dont like losing!" joke was pretty funny. Infact I heard that joke a few times yesterday.
  • Deus_Ex_MachinaDeus_Ex_Machina Join Date: 2004-07-01 Member: 29674Members
  • DepotDepot The ModFather Join Date: 2002-11-09 Member: 7956Members
    <!--QuoteBegin-Supernorn+Jul 8 2005, 10:02 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Supernorn @ Jul 8 2005, 10:02 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> A simple solution would be to ignore comments like this instead of retaliating and completely derailing the topic. Its not science people, its common sense. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    QFT!

    This is the best way to handle it. If this method fails simply contact a mod the best way you see fit and let THEM handle the derailer BEFORE the thread gets locked.
  • SnidelySnidely Join Date: 2003-02-04 Member: 13098Members
    edited July 2005
    I think the mods are doing a good job as-is. When my thread about London deteriorated into a riot, for example, it was locked (and rightly so).
  • ScribblesScribbles Join Date: 2003-11-05 Member: 22323Members
    <!--QuoteBegin-Thaldarin+Jul 8 2005, 08:48 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Thaldarin @ Jul 8 2005, 08:48 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> In the last few days there has been alot of race topics all at once. There has been a problem for quite some time on the board with them but I don't see how it got how it did. So I am requesting this..

    Members: Try not to spark off a comment which will end up in a race row, e.g. "I blame the French" seems to be quite popular.

    <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Except, the French are not a race. <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->
  • BobbyShaftoeBobbyShaftoe Join Date: 2004-01-13 Member: 25280Members
    I blame my mother!
  • SpetsnazSpetsnaz Join Date: 2003-12-26 Member: 24761Members, Constellation
    <span style='font-size:21pt;line-height:100%'><span style='color:red'>I BLAME YOU ALL</span></span>
  • CyndaneCyndane Join Date: 2003-11-15 Member: 22913Members
    I blame <span style='color:yellow'>Thansal </span>
  • Nil_IQNil_IQ Join Date: 2003-04-15 Member: 15520Members
  • SupernornSupernorn Best. Picture. Ever. Made. Ever. Join Date: 2002-11-07 Member: 7608Members, Constellation
    And so another thread goes down in flames...
  • ThansalThansal The New Scum Join Date: 2002-08-22 Member: 1215Members, Constellation
    <!--QuoteBegin-Cyndane+Jul 8 2005, 12:12 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Cyndane @ Jul 8 2005, 12:12 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> I blame <span style='color:yellow'>Thansal </span> <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    sw33t

    I win!

    and yah.

    the truth is in the simplest thing.



    Don't Feed The Trolls.

    how hard is it?
  • RatonetwothreetwooneRatonetwothreetwoone Join Date: 2004-03-23 Member: 27504Members
    you people do know that if "i blame the french" becomes a bannable term.. it also means no more america bashing... is that really what you all want?
  • MetalcatMetalcat Join Date: 2004-08-11 Member: 30528Members
    <!--QuoteBegin-Ratonetwothreetwoone+Jul 8 2005, 01:11 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Ratonetwothreetwoone @ Jul 8 2005, 01:11 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> you people do know that if "i blame the french" becomes a bannable term.. it also means no more america bashing... is that really what you all want? <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    ok i sure dont want that


    then we will actually have to create a topic for all our american bashing
  • CrispyCrispy Jaded GD Join Date: 2004-08-22 Member: 30793Members, Constellation
  • AlienCowAlienCow Join Date: 2003-09-20 Member: 21040Members
    Mmm some of the comments in some threads just aren't necessary...that London thread did not need to derail at all - people can't control themselves it seems. <!--emo&:(--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/sad-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='sad-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->
  • 2_of_Eight2_of_Eight Join Date: 2003-08-20 Member: 20016Members
    And a thread intended to stop person/race/belief/nation bashing/flaming turns into just that.
  • ChronoChrono Local flyboy Join Date: 2003-08-05 Member: 18989Members
    I blame the french for this thread.
  • lolfighterlolfighter Snark, Dire Join Date: 2003-04-20 Member: 15693Members
    <!--QuoteBegin-Ratonetwothreetwoone+Jul 8 2005, 08:11 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Ratonetwothreetwoone @ Jul 8 2005, 08:11 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> you people do know that if "i blame the french" becomes a bannable term.. it also means no more america bashing... is that really what you all want? <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Yes. The ameribashing is getting tiresome, especially since usually it's just people repeating what they've heard elsewhere without ever thinking about it. Kinda like parrots. Except without the pretty feathers and the funny hijinks.
  • SkySky Join Date: 2004-04-23 Member: 28131Members
    My thought: it's the Internet. You can easily find far more offensive crap online than anything we've ever seen here (though the lynching pictures did come close, and that "Forsake the Troops" thing was rather bad as well). So, when the mods aren't around, grow tougher skins people. I'm not even someone who's gotten involved in this recent spurt of racist/sexist/whatever-ist threads, but the degree to which you guys have let it affect you is surprising, tbh.
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