tankefuglOne Script To Rule Them All...Trondheim, NorwayJoin Date: 2002-11-14Member: 8641Members, Retired Developer, NS1 Playtester, Constellation, NS2 Playtester, Squad Five Blue
<!--QuoteBegin-MrMojo+Jul 12 2005, 10:54 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (MrMojo @ Jul 12 2005, 10:54 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> ensl more like english second language <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> we're sorry for that, grammar and fluency probably wasn't the best
me, mst and biomass got the job about a hour before the game when we got the knowledge noone else where gonna do it, so i managed to organize one in that timeframe.. it's one thing to write and another one to actually speak english <!--emo&;)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/wink-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wink-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->
if anyone recorded the shoutcast, please pm me in irc (zaiko @ quakenet/gamesurge) or pm me here in the forums
-EDIT- HLTV demos are also happily welcomed <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->
<!--QuoteBegin-zaiko+Jul 12 2005, 05:48 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (zaiko @ Jul 12 2005, 05:48 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--><!--QuoteBegin-MrMojo+Jul 12 2005, 10:54 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (MrMojo @ Jul 12 2005, 10:54 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> ensl more like english second language <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> we're sorry for that, grammar and fluency probably wasn't the best
me, mst and biomass got the job about a hour before the game when we got the knowledge noone else where gonna do it, so i managed to organize one in that timeframe.. it's one thing to write and another one to actually speak english
if anyone recorded the shoutcast, please pm me in irc (zaiko @ quakenet/gamesurge) or pm me here in the forums
-EDIT- HLTV demos are also happily welcomed<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> I think Mojo is joking. That's apparently another part of language that doesn't translate am I rite?!
For me, it was ultimately your tone, tenor and pacing that kept me awake and pumped!!!! if by "awake and pumped!!!!" I mean "sleepy and distracted". Seriously it was the finals!!! get excited!!! <!--emo&::asrifle::--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/asrifle.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='asrifle.gif' /><!--endemo--> <!--emo&::asrifle::--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/asrifle.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='asrifle.gif' /><!--endemo-->
CheeseLork on the ClorfJoin Date: 2003-12-15Member: 24396Members, Constellation
Sad that both teams members show that they arent very sporty in their forums...
knife whining about bad hive locations and <3 finally in the victory position beeing a bad winner...
that really takes all the fun out of it <!--emo&:(--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/sad-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='sad-fix.gif' /><!--endemo--> Come on guys...its a game... <!--emo&::nerdy::--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/nerd-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='nerd-fix.gif' /><!--endemo--> no need to **** off anyone <!--emo&;)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/wink-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wink-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->
LEHTZ ALL BE FREINDTS OR SOHMTHINK LEIKE THIS!!11!
<!--QuoteBegin-Cheese+Jul 13 2005, 05:28 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Cheese @ Jul 13 2005, 05:28 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Sad that both teams members show that they arent very sporty in their forums...
knife whining about bad hive locations and <3 finally in the victory position beeing a bad winner...
that really takes all the fun out of it <!--emo&:(--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/sad-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='sad-fix.gif' /><!--endemo--> Come on guys...its a game... <!--emo&::nerdy::--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/nerd-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='nerd-fix.gif' /><!--endemo--> no need to **** off anyone <!--emo&;)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/wink-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wink-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->
LEHTZ ALL BE FREINDTS OR SOHMTHINK LEIKE THIS!!11! <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> What!?
Arg, i stayed the last few days in hospital <!--emo&:(--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/sad-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='sad-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->
Get me some demos, now <!--emo&:angry:--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/mad-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='mad-fix.gif' /><!--endemo--> . . . . . . pleeeaaaaase <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo-->
<!--QuoteBegin-Cheese+Jul 13 2005, 05:28 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Cheese @ Jul 13 2005, 05:28 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Sad that both teams members show that they arent very sporty in their forums...
knife whining about bad hive locations and <3 finally in the victory position beeing a bad winner...
that really takes all the fun out of it <!--emo&:(--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/sad-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='sad-fix.gif' /><!--endemo--> Come on guys...its a game... <!--emo&::nerdy::--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/nerd-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='nerd-fix.gif' /><!--endemo--> no need to **** off anyone <!--emo&;)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/wink-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wink-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->
LEHTZ ALL BE FREINDTS OR SOHMTHINK LEIKE THIS!!11! <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> wth, get a clue.
that was a gg. fana got lmg'd in less than 5 minutes WTHbbq? <!--emo&???--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/confused-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='confused-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->
This is where I downloaded them from... <a href='http://esports.ampednews.com/?page=demos&id=2033' target='_blank'>http://esports.ampednews.com/?page=demos&id=2033</a>
I just feel sorry for fana <!--emo&:(--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/sad-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='sad-fix.gif' /><!--endemo--> That must be terrible think to happen <!--emo&???--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/confused-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='confused-fix.gif' /><!--endemo--> <!--emo&::fade::--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/fade.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='fade.gif' /><!--endemo-->
<!--QuoteBegin-comrade+Jul 14 2005, 12:00 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (comrade @ Jul 14 2005, 12:00 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> there should be a way where both teams get the same hive in tournymode
but its all part of the game <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> im not a knife apologist [i dont care actally] but this would be useful since it's really **** having the game depend so much on a pseudo-random number generator.
Well the second commander will have an easier time of it. Though 99% of the time the comm will call the right hive and can confirm through a variety of ways, he'll know 100% which one it is before the round starts and can thus plan accordingly. If you just had hive as maintenance then you know for marine you can cap triad early, you know if you speed rush CC through the back you can beat a fair few skulks etc. Pretty unfair to be honest unless it's decided on pre game but even then, I don't think it's a great idea. Simply getting balanced maps would be a far better solution.
CheeseLork on the ClorfJoin Date: 2003-12-15Member: 24396Members, Constellation
No..the easiest way would be to let the teams take the hive it wants at the beginning.
This way the comm wouldnt know which hive they did choose.
This would give you different tactic possiblities. lost for example...
You d like to play scs...so you choose cargo. You d like to base rush...so you take equi. And stuff like that.
And to fool the comm of the other team (who will know what the main hive is anyways at 99%) you could choose the not so common main hive <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo-->
Well tournamentmode...let khaara team choose their hive. No map balance needed then. And if every marine tactic expecst that one hive is going to be main hive...just choose a different one and screw their tactics <!--emo&;)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/wink-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wink-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->
<!--QuoteBegin-tjosan+Jul 15 2005, 07:59 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (tjosan @ Jul 15 2005, 07:59 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Ah, but most often there is one hive that is far superior, so actually being able to chose pregame would make the game very stale.
Very stale.
Stale.
Boring? Perhaps. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> No it wouldn't. In fact it would make the game much less stale, because people on the alien team wouldn't roll their eyes when dealt a bad hive.
<!--QuoteBegin-tjosan+Jul 15 2005, 08:12 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (tjosan @ Jul 15 2005, 08:12 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> We already play the same 3-4 maps all the time, do we really have to play them the same way every time as well? I dont find that appealing at all. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> You could play maps that are imbalanced if you could pick your hive. The reason the same "3-4 maps" are always played is because they all have mostly good hive locations.
The other ones are discarded because of the horrible hive locations. Allow teams to pick their hive at the start of the game, and now you just opening up the list to plenty of new maps to play because bad hive locations won't be such a huge factor.
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we're sorry for that, grammar and fluency probably wasn't the best
me, mst and biomass got the job about a hour before the game when we got the knowledge noone else where gonna do it, so i managed to organize one in that timeframe..
it's one thing to write and another one to actually speak english <!--emo&;)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/wink-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wink-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->
if anyone recorded the shoutcast, please pm me in irc (zaiko @ quakenet/gamesurge) or pm me here in the forums
-EDIT-
HLTV demos are also happily welcomed <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->
<a href='http://nude-soiree.net/demos/enslfinals.zip' target='_blank'>yep</a>
<a href='http://nude-soiree.net/demos/enslfinals.zip' target='_blank'>yep</a> <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
appreciated
<a href='http://nude-soiree.net/demos/enslfinals.zip' target='_blank'>yep</a> <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
appreciated <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
Very much so.
Cool!
Unlucky knife and well done <3
we're sorry for that, grammar and fluency probably wasn't the best
me, mst and biomass got the job about a hour before the game when we got the knowledge noone else where gonna do it, so i managed to organize one in that timeframe..
it's one thing to write and another one to actually speak english
if anyone recorded the shoutcast, please pm me in irc (zaiko @ quakenet/gamesurge) or pm me here in the forums
-EDIT-
HLTV demos are also happily welcomed<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
I think Mojo is joking. That's apparently another part of language that doesn't translate am I rite?!
For me, it was ultimately your tone, tenor and pacing that kept me awake and pumped!!!! if by "awake and pumped!!!!" I mean "sleepy and distracted". Seriously it was the finals!!! get excited!!! <!--emo&::asrifle::--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/asrifle.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='asrifle.gif' /><!--endemo--> <!--emo&::asrifle::--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/asrifle.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='asrifle.gif' /><!--endemo-->
knife whining about bad hive locations
and
<3 finally in the victory position beeing a bad winner...
that really takes all the fun out of it <!--emo&:(--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/sad-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='sad-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->
Come on guys...its a game... <!--emo&::nerdy::--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/nerd-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='nerd-fix.gif' /><!--endemo--> no need to **** off anyone <!--emo&;)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/wink-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wink-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->
LEHTZ ALL BE FREINDTS OR SOHMTHINK LEIKE THIS!!11!
knife whining about bad hive locations
and
<3 finally in the victory position beeing a bad winner...
that really takes all the fun out of it <!--emo&:(--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/sad-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='sad-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->
Come on guys...its a game... <!--emo&::nerdy::--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/nerd-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='nerd-fix.gif' /><!--endemo--> no need to **** off anyone <!--emo&;)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/wink-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wink-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->
LEHTZ ALL BE FREINDTS OR SOHMTHINK LEIKE THIS!!11! <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
What!?
GG, gratz to <3.
Get me some demos, now <!--emo&:angry:--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/mad-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='mad-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->
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pleeeaaaaase <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo-->
knife whining about bad hive locations
and
<3 finally in the victory position beeing a bad winner...
that really takes all the fun out of it <!--emo&:(--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/sad-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='sad-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->
Come on guys...its a game... <!--emo&::nerdy::--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/nerd-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='nerd-fix.gif' /><!--endemo--> no need to **** off anyone <!--emo&;)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/wink-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wink-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->
LEHTZ ALL BE FREINDTS OR SOHMTHINK LEIKE THIS!!11! <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
wth, get a clue.
<a href='http://www.knifegaming.com/index.php?subaction=showcomments&id=1121239801&archive=&start_from=&ucat=3&' target='_blank'>There you go...</a>
Don't worry, it's Fana, lol! <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->
but yes alpha hive sucks the dong
there should be a way where both teams get the same hive in tournymode
but its all part of the game
gg wp lessthanthree
<a href='http://esports.ampednews.com/?page=demos&id=2033' target='_blank'>http://esports.ampednews.com/?page=demos&id=2033</a>
but its all part of the game <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
im not a knife apologist [i dont care actally] but this would be useful since it's really **** having the game depend so much on a pseudo-random number generator.
lol good luck with that <!--emo&:(--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/sad-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='sad-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->
This way the comm wouldnt know which hive they did choose.
This would give you different tactic possiblities. lost for example...
You d like to play scs...so you choose cargo.
You d like to base rush...so you take equi. And stuff like that.
And to fool the comm of the other team (who will know what the main hive is anyways at 99%) you could choose the not so common main hive <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo-->
Well tournamentmode...let khaara team choose their hive. No map balance needed then. And if every marine tactic expecst that one hive is going to be main hive...just choose a different one and screw their tactics <!--emo&;)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/wink-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wink-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->
Very stale.
Stale.
Boring? Perhaps.
Very stale.
Stale.
Boring? Perhaps. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
No it wouldn't. In fact it would make the game much less stale, because people on the alien team wouldn't roll their eyes when dealt a bad hive.
<!--QuoteBegin--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->NOT the ENSL Season 1 champions omg
<span style='font-size:8pt;line-height:100%'>by Fana</span><!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
news posts <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo-->
You could play maps that are imbalanced if you could pick your hive. The reason the same "3-4 maps" are always played is because they all have mostly good hive locations.
The other ones are discarded because of the horrible hive locations. Allow teams to pick their hive at the start of the game, and now you just opening up the list to plenty of new maps to play because bad hive locations won't be such a huge factor.