<!--quoteo(post=1877980:date=Oct 4 2011, 05:00 AM:name=NeonSpyder)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (NeonSpyder @ Oct 4 2011, 05:00 AM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1877980"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->Truly these are not men, but <b>gods</b><!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
I need to remember to unsubscribe from the <i>false</i> god of Panigg.
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<!--quoteo(post=1878003:date=Oct 4 2011, 11:48 AM:name=Svenpa)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Svenpa @ Oct 4 2011, 11:48 AM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1878003"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->I need to remember to unsubscribe from the <i>false</i> god of Panigg.
<!--quoteo(post=1878474:date=Oct 7 2011, 01:39 PM:name=lolfighter)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (lolfighter @ Oct 7 2011, 01:39 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1878474"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec--><div align='center'> I don't remember if this is a repost or not, but if it is then you all need to watch it again:
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<!--quoteo(post=1878648:date=Oct 8 2011, 07:57 AM:name=Koruyo)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Koruyo @ Oct 8 2011, 07:57 AM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1878648"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec--><div align='center'> <center><object width="450" height="356"><param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/kUEGHdQO7WA"></param><embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/kUEGHdQO7WA" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" width="450" height="356"></embed></object></center> <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kUEGHdQO7WA" target="_blank">TEDxPSU - Sam Richards - A Radical Experiment in Empathy</a> </div><!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd--> great video, but I'm with the top commenter: "What I find most distrubing about this video is that something as basic as empathy has to be taught to others rather than people knowing it themselves already. I really think if what he is saying is in anyway profound to you or you do not quite get it - then there is something fundamentally wrong here."
I remember talking about how atrocious and ridiculous the iraq war was from day one, and what an extreme minority I was in for feeling that way. It's amazing how bloodthirsty your average person is when it's the blood of someone they refuse to relate to. Not that dissimilar from the refusal to relate to the disenfranchised folks occupying wall street today.
Not impressed. Slightly depressed that he makes it seem it's gonna be mindblowing to people. Even more that it actually is, to some of the people you get to see in media...
EDIT: Although. The thing about empathy, is you can't just stop when it feels "right". You gotta feel for the idiot, too.
<!--quoteo(post=1878727:date=Oct 8 2011, 10:45 PM:name=Align)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Align @ Oct 8 2011, 10:45 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1878727"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->Not impressed. Slightly depressed that he makes it seem it's gonna be mindblowing to people. Even more that it actually is, to some of the people you get to see in media...
EDIT: Although. The thing about empathy, is you can't just stop when it feels "right". You gotta feel for the idiot, too.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd--> Keep in mind he's not talking to you. You're a third party. There's a reason third parties are often used for arbitration, because someone who doesn't have a direct stake in the problem has an easier time approaching it objectively. You are not an arab (I'm guessing) or an american, to you it's not "us vs. them," it's "those guys vs. the other guys." It's easier for you to see the issues from both sides because your default point of view isn't aligned with either of them. Try to ask some of your next door neighbours, the norwegians, how they feel about Germany. Probably a bit late nowadays, but there are still a few around who were alive during the second world war. For the next-best thing, there are still plenty around who were given first-hand accounts of the less-than-lenient treatment Norway was given at the hands of the occupiers, and who learned to hate.
<!--quoteo(post=1878648:date=Oct 8 2011, 12:57 PM:name=Koruyo)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Koruyo @ Oct 8 2011, 12:57 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1878648"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec--><div align='center'> <center><object width="450" height="356"><param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/kUEGHdQO7WA"></param><embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/kUEGHdQO7WA" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" width="450" height="356"></embed></object></center> <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kUEGHdQO7WA" target="_blank">TEDxPSU - Sam Richards - A Radical Experiment in Empathy</a> </div><!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Meh.
I didn't watch it all because I got tired of hearing his voice, but this guy blames everything on America, more specifically he used the words "... this insurgency that's been unleashed upon your people...".
Empathy is cool and all, but we're not the ones who have brainwashed these barbarians into suicide-bombing weddings. I don't remember Paul Revere riding into a school with a keg of gunpowder, blowing it up to kill three British troops.
He's hinging way too much on the Iraq thing as a parallel for all the actions in the Middle East which is a complete fallacy. If oil was our motivation for Iraq, what was our motivation for Afghanistan? All the rare earths that were discovered only a few years ago that we haven't even begun to exploit?
When the collective cult of Islam actually decides to pull its head out of its ass and convince 90% of its followers that a woman having an education isn't really a good reason to stone her to death, I'll try to muster up the energy to give a ######.
The one thing that annoyed me the most is he also kept stressing "the leaders that the Chinese have installed and bribed to get what they want while you get nothing"... the Iranian Shah was the West's tool in the Middle East. The Iranian people overthrew him and installed their own guy: Ayatollah Khomeini, a ruthless ###### who's done terrible things to the country and its people and has been waging a campaign against Israel just because they're jews and directed the Sepah e Pasdaran, the state-run terrorist wing, to campaign against the United States, because they're an ally of Israel.
So you know what, ###### them. You want me to empathize with <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rYKUZFL5qVA&feature=player_embedded" target="_blank">these people (gory, featuring exploded heads)</a>? Yeah, those aren't foreign forces, or terrorists, or whatever - they're their own countrymen, some were apparently even known by the soldiers, who were protesting against the brutal regime they live under, that was installed not by the West, but by... dun dun dun... the people their own ######bag religion leveraged into a position of ultimate power.
I didn't watch it all because I got tired of hearing his voice, but this guy blames everything on America, more specifically he used the words "... this insurgency that's been unleashed upon your people...".<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
And thus you fail.
If you watch all the way through, he points out several instances where he uses a tidbit and in America we know better and understand it's fringe movement that they would take as characterizing all of America. He's intentionally providing you with a very narrow view on things because that's what they would have. It's an experiment on if you can try to grasp how wildly different their view on the whole situation is not because of their situation but because they <b>don't</b> understand the whole situation, and frankly neither do you.
It's not a blame game, it's him painting the picture as they might see it given their limited scope and you seeing things and feeling things as they would.
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Augmentation is the future.
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Zose crazy russians.
--Scythe--
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Fake
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I'm in <i>AWE</i>.
Truly these are not men, but <b>gods</b>
I need to remember to unsubscribe from the <i>false</i> god of Panigg.
<span style='color:#000000;background:#000000'>HERESY</span>
At first I didn't like the spliced voicework but it turns out pretty great despite that, so bear with it for a bit.
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<span style='color:#000000;background:#000000'>HERESY</span><!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
<span style='color:#000000;background:#000000'>BUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUURN!</span>
<span style='color:#000000;background:#000000'>*get's the flamethrower from the shed...*</span>
<a href="http://vimeo.com/29996808" target="_blank">http://vimeo.com/29996808</a>
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Interesting, but some of those were pretty loose ties.
I need to watch GITS again. And Akira.
--Scythe--
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<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kUEGHdQO7WA" target="_blank">TEDxPSU - Sam Richards - A Radical Experiment in Empathy</a>
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it is indeed a repost
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<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kUEGHdQO7WA" target="_blank">TEDxPSU - Sam Richards - A Radical Experiment in Empathy</a>
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great video, but I'm with the top commenter: "What I find most distrubing about this video is that something as basic as empathy has to be taught to others rather than people knowing it themselves already. I really think if what he is saying is in anyway profound to you or you do not quite get it - then there is something fundamentally wrong here."
I remember talking about how atrocious and ridiculous the iraq war was from day one, and what an extreme minority I was in for feeling that way. It's amazing how bloodthirsty your average person is when it's the blood of someone they refuse to relate to. Not that dissimilar from the refusal to relate to the disenfranchised folks occupying wall street today.
EDIT: Although.
The thing about empathy, is you can't just stop when it feels "right". You gotta feel for the idiot, too.
EDIT: Although.
The thing about empathy, is you can't just stop when it feels "right". You gotta feel for the idiot, too.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Keep in mind he's not talking to you. You're a third party.
There's a reason third parties are often used for arbitration, because someone who doesn't have a direct stake in the problem has an easier time approaching it objectively. You are not an arab (I'm guessing) or an american, to you it's not "us vs. them," it's "those guys vs. the other guys." It's easier for you to see the issues from both sides because your default point of view isn't aligned with either of them.
Try to ask some of your next door neighbours, the norwegians, how they feel about Germany. Probably a bit late nowadays, but there are still a few around who were alive during the second world war. For the next-best thing, there are still plenty around who were given first-hand accounts of the less-than-lenient treatment Norway was given at the hands of the occupiers, and who learned to hate.
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<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kUEGHdQO7WA" target="_blank">TEDxPSU - Sam Richards - A Radical Experiment in Empathy</a>
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Meh.
I didn't watch it all because I got tired of hearing his voice, but this guy blames everything on America, more specifically he used the words "... this insurgency that's been unleashed upon your people...".
Empathy is cool and all, but we're not the ones who have brainwashed these barbarians into suicide-bombing weddings. I don't remember Paul Revere riding into a school with a keg of gunpowder, blowing it up to kill three British troops.
He's hinging way too much on the Iraq thing as a parallel for all the actions in the Middle East which is a complete fallacy. If oil was our motivation for Iraq, what was our motivation for Afghanistan? All the rare earths that were discovered only a few years ago that we haven't even begun to exploit?
When the collective cult of Islam actually decides to pull its head out of its ass and convince 90% of its followers that a woman having an education isn't really a good reason to stone her to death, I'll try to muster up the energy to give a ######.
The one thing that annoyed me the most is he also kept stressing "the leaders that the Chinese have installed and bribed to get what they want while you get nothing"... the Iranian Shah was the West's tool in the Middle East. The Iranian people overthrew him and installed their own guy: Ayatollah Khomeini, a ruthless ###### who's done terrible things to the country and its people and has been waging a campaign against Israel just because they're jews and directed the Sepah e Pasdaran, the state-run terrorist wing, to campaign against the United States, because they're an ally of Israel.
So you know what, ###### them. You want me to empathize with <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rYKUZFL5qVA&feature=player_embedded" target="_blank">these people (gory, featuring exploded heads)</a>? Yeah, those aren't foreign forces, or terrorists, or whatever - they're their own countrymen, some were apparently even known by the soldiers, who were protesting against the brutal regime they live under, that was installed not by the West, but by... dun dun dun... the people their own ######bag religion leveraged into a position of ultimate power.
I didn't watch it all because I got tired of hearing his voice, but this guy blames everything on America, more specifically he used the words "... this insurgency that's been unleashed upon your people...".<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
And thus you fail.
If you watch all the way through, he points out several instances where he uses a tidbit and in America we know better and understand it's fringe movement that they would take as characterizing all of America. He's intentionally providing you with a very narrow view on things because that's what they would have. It's an experiment on if you can try to grasp how wildly different their view on the whole situation is not because of their situation but because they <b>don't</b> understand the whole situation, and frankly neither do you.
It's not a blame game, it's him painting the picture as they might see it given their limited scope and you seeing things and feeling things as they would.
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Oh, payment for vid (from GT5 OST):
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