Performance
Gertjan
Join Date: 2011-08-30 Member: 119151Members
Join Date: 2011-08-30 Member: 119151Members
<div class="IPBDescription">Performance</div>Hi all
Is there anyway to increase performance in NS2? Normally my pc would be able to run this kind of gameplay and graphics, my pc aint really good but it's good enough
I know most of the lag is because it's beta, but is their anyway to lower graphics more then in options etc...???
And maybe a suggestion : It would be nice if we could lower the graphics some more :)
My pc is laptop ASUS K70AB serie
2.1 Ghz x2
HD4570, 512Mb Ati radeon
4GB memory
Should be enough no ??
I hope that the performance can be increased in the next patches (It's a BIG and NICE difference since 185 when I bought the game ) but some more would be nice so I can play the game nicely!!
Good luck with next patches, I love the game already !!!
KlesK
Is there anyway to increase performance in NS2? Normally my pc would be able to run this kind of gameplay and graphics, my pc aint really good but it's good enough
I know most of the lag is because it's beta, but is their anyway to lower graphics more then in options etc...???
And maybe a suggestion : It would be nice if we could lower the graphics some more :)
My pc is laptop ASUS K70AB serie
2.1 Ghz x2
HD4570, 512Mb Ati radeon
4GB memory
Should be enough no ??
I hope that the performance can be increased in the next patches (It's a BIG and NICE difference since 185 when I bought the game ) but some more would be nice so I can play the game nicely!!
Good luck with next patches, I love the game already !!!
KlesK
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No really it is not, that a 3rd generation old GPU for a start, and a poor one at that. This is a beta in a game with a new engine, sorry you need a better pc
We'll have more graphics options available in the future (as well as more performance improvements). One thing you can do from the console that will help a little bit is turning off the shadows with: r_shadows false
I still think when its on low graphics I can run NS2 and play smooth!? I mean, I can play Starcraft II on lowest graphics smooth (enough)...
I know that its impossible for me to run new games, but NS2 is INDIE game so I think that graphics would be somewhat lower that new recent games? :s :s :s (I hope so)
If someone can give me an answer on the fact that I could run NS2 smooth enough to acctually enjoy it, I would be happy!
Aah ok thnx!!
When it launches the final version ofcourse
I would try these commands in the console first (I believe they only affect graphic items, so gameplay shouldn't be affected although the game will look worst)
r_shadows false
r_bloom false
r_instancing false
If you're still having issues, you could try these console commands, although they have some big gameplay drawbacks
r_flash false
r_mode unlit
r_flash false will cause the marine weapon ammo counters to stop working (because they are using flash)
r_mode unlit basically makes the entire game fully lit, so its a bit like an exploit because it lets you see players hidden in shadows/dark rooms really easy.
Also, vizionz has a good post about tweaking options for your GPU that may be helpful: <a href="http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=114414&st=20&p=1865716&#entry1865716" target="_blank">Link</a>
I know its for Nvidia, but some of the same concepts can apply to ATI/AMD GPUs (such as turning down graphics options). Also, since you have a dual core processor, if might be helpful to set ns2.exe's affinity to your 2nd core.
Edit: First link updated
I would try these commands in the console first (I believe they only affect graphic items, so gameplay shouldn't be affected although the game will look worst)
r_shadows false
r_bloom false
r_instancing false
If you're still having issues, you could try these console commands, although they have some big gameplay drawbacks
r_flash false
r_mode unlit
r_flash false will cause the marine weapon ammo counters to stop working (because they are using flash)
r_mode unlit basically makes the entire game fully lit, so its a bit like an exploit because it lets you see players hidden in shadows/dark rooms really easy.
Also, vizionz has a good post about tweaking options for your GPU that may be helpful: <a href="http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/index.php?s=&showtopic=10649&view=findpost&p=1865716" target="_blank">http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/index....t&p=1865716</a>
I know its for Nvidia, but some of the same concepts can apply to ATI/AMD GPUs (such as turning down graphics options). Also, since you have a dual core processor, if might be helpful to set ns2.exe's affinity to your 2nd core.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Ty very much those first 3 commands helped alot. The mode unlit does help alot but it makes the game no fun hehe :D
Can I get banned for those commands :s ???
The first link does not work for me , the 2nd link helped alot :)!!
I hope that when the game has he's final version I can play smooth.. I really do :'(, cant spend money on a gaming pc, just impossible for me, just want to have fun with good games that my pc can handle.. After like 10 years or more of Half life 1 and 2 fun I can use a game like NS to fill my days gaming :)
This is true, but it can be the difference between NS2 being playable and unplayable for some people right now. I'd use the last two command (r_flash false and r_mode unlit) only if your performance is still terrible.
Also, it should be noted that not all performance issues are client-side. The stuff I listed will only improve your client-side fps (which you can check by type r_stats into the console). However, there are server-side performance issues in the current beta (such as stuttering and rubberbanding) that their isn't much you can do about on your end. The only option is to play on servers with very good hardware (Inversion, Team 156, Australia Pure, HBZ, etc) until those issues are fixed. You can sort of guess the server performance by typing net_stats into the console and watching the server rate. On 'good' servers this rate will stay mostly between 20-30 ticks per second and only occasionally drop into single digit territory during heavy combat/long games.
2.1 Ghz x2
HD4570, 512Mb Ati radeon
4GB memory
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Gertjan,
You say that you are playing from a laptop correct?
Do your fans run high as well?
-B1ackSmoke
You say that you are playing from a laptop correct?
Do your fans run high as well?
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Jep i'm playing from a laptop!
Fans (i think it's "ventilation" :) ) eeeuuuhhhmmm I think not because i hardly hear my fans, it does not make alot of noise...
Btw: Does someone knows the system req for NS2 launch ??? I found some on the internet, some say my PC is good enough some say it's slightly not...
If someone could answer this (if possible) i would be happy :p
Yeah, I play from my Macbook as well, these especially have horrible ventilation. Laptops in General=Bad ventilation. I think a true gaming pc is a desktop computer. Wish I could find $1,000 on the ground to build my own custom one! haha
I know that its impossible for me to run new games, but NS2 is INDIE game so I think that graphics would be somewhat lower that new recent games? :s :s :s (I hope so)
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sry to disappoint you, but indie doesn't mean bad graphics :)
When it is fully optimized, will it run a lot smoother for us lower end computer users?
-B1ackSmoke
-B1ackSmoke<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Tradionally, whenever optimizing things they tend to become more effective/better/faster/etc. So my guess would be: yes.
Although, of course, it depends on your definition of "a lot".
However, the FPS can drop like an Onos when action picks up. A lot of people, including myself are experiencing FPS as low as 10-20 when engaging in combat. That continues to be the most significant performance problem in NS2.
BTW My specs are:
Intel Pentium (Core 2) E6500 (3GHz)
4GB DDR2 RAM (dual channel)
Gigabyte HD5750 1GB
Win7 32bit
the tweaking tips are much appreciated! neither of those links you posted above are working for me though :(
the tweaking tips are much appreciated! neither of those links you posted above are working for me though :(<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Alright, try now.
Although, of course, it depends on your definition of "a lot".<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Yeah I think so too. When NS2 is fully optimized it will run smooth enough for players with low pc specs
Mine are : 2.1 Ghz x2
HD radeon 4570 512MB
4GB ram
Laptop xD
When I play windowed with shadows instancing and bloom on false the game has a solid +-20FPS wich is playable for me!
When performance gets a little better and more graphic options are available to lower them I bet that I can play the game smooth on low graphics... /fingers crossed , if not then I'm doomed :'(
<a href="http://www.videocardbenchmark.net/video_lookup.php?gpu=Mobility+Radeon+HD+4570" target="_blank">http://www.videocardbenchmark.net/video_lo...+Radeon+HD+4570</a>
(thats on the low end gpu page, you score 286, check out the high end gpu scores, currently top is 3,900)
<a href="http://www.videocardbenchmark.net/high_end_gpus.html" target="_blank">http://www.videocardbenchmark.net/high_end_gpus.html</a>
laptops, unless you build them yourself (and even then its sub par to desktops) hardly can be considered "good" pc gaming rigs.
<a href="http://www.videocardbenchmark.net/video_lookup.php?gpu=Mobility+Radeon+HD+4570" target="_blank">http://www.videocardbenchmark.net/video_lo...+Radeon+HD+4570</a>
(thats on the low end gpu page, you score 286, check out the high end gpu scores, currently top is 3,900)
<a href="http://www.videocardbenchmark.net/high_end_gpus.html" target="_blank">http://www.videocardbenchmark.net/high_end_gpus.html</a>
laptops, unless you build them yourself (and even then its sub par to desktops) hardly can be considered "good" pc gaming rigs.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Ye ofcourse laptops are more bad for gaming then desktops, but I'm a student that needs a computer the whole time. Travelling, being away from home the whole week etc etc ... Gaming is just a good relaxation for me. I'm unable to buy a desktop only for gaming. I can buy a laptop for gaming+school+everything else you can do with a PC.
Too bad for me I can't run NS2 now, I hope i can do in a few weeks/months when performance gets better. I still need to do like 1 or 2 years more with this laptop before even thinking buying a new one. NS2 would be a good game to hold on for atleast a year, I played HL1 and HL2 mods for YEARS!!! So NS2 would be awsome.
I just know now I need to wait and hope it gets better in a while and hope my pc can run the game/engine wich i think it normally would :)
Proc: Intel Core 2 Duo 2.32ghz
Ram: 4gb
GFX Card: Nvidia GeForce 9800M GTS 1.0 gb
Game runs on medium, at 1900 res, at 15-22 fps. with the 4 applied settings (bloom and shadows false, etc.) Lowering to awful settings doesn't seem to increase fps. I can run crysis 1 on high at 30fps...(until it starts running hot heh) so i assume it's just fine tuning for the NS2 release that i'll be waiting for.
The problem is that sometimes my computer fails to connect to a server on its first attempt most of the time (but not always), and what's worse is that when I play clan games, I can't join through steamfriends at all because it's passworded (I type in the password, but it sends me to the NS2 menu without attempting to connect), so in those games I usually drop to 5fps. I have managed to do this a few times now, and the results have been the same.
Might there be some way to turn off all the graphics in the menu screen and just have the menu with a black background? Wishful thinking, but if you don't ask, you don't get, and that might not be a solution anyway!