Kouji_SanSr. Hινε UÏкεεÏεг - EUPT DeputyThe NetherlandsJoin Date: 2003-05-13Member: 16271Members, NS2 Playtester, Squad Five Blue
<!--quoteo(post=2017677:date=Nov 9 2012, 11:59 PM:name=StopSpazzing)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (StopSpazzing @ Nov 9 2012, 11:59 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=2017677"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->Wow, you need to be banned. Don't need to see a porn link.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd--> No need to respond to spambot, just report them using the report feature and we'll take care of it ;)
<!--quoteo(post=2017696:date=Nov 9 2012, 05:10 PM:name=Kouji_San)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Kouji_San @ Nov 9 2012, 05:10 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=2017696"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->No need to respond to spambot, just report them using the report feature and we'll take care of it ;)<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
I did report him, but the reason why I posted that was to warn other users before they clicked it.
With he upcoming Steam Linux release, it'd be great if NS2 would go ahead and start working on a Linux client (and server). I preordered the deluxe edition years back, but I'm willing to support the possible Linux release by buying another copy of the game -- either for myself or someone else.
As there won't be many releases on Steam linux port in a while, wouldn't it be also great for sales if NS2 was there as early on as possible? Certainly it would get a lot of media attention.
In my memories ns2 was cross-platform and it became windows only because of steam. Now that steam is compatible on linux(still beta) ns2 should be compatible too. Especially when we know that ns2 doesn't work on wine.
Go on you have few month before the official linux steam release, plenty of time :)
JektJoin Date: 2012-02-05Member: 143714Members, Squad Five Blue, Reinforced - Shadow
Some necromancy up in here.
Ryan Gordon, the guy largely responsible for <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ryan_C._Gordon#Ported_titles" target="_blank">these linux ports</a> was interviewed last week.
Interesting pull out.
<!--QuoteBegin-Ryan+--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Ryan)</div><div class='quotemain'><!--QuoteEBegin-->A one-man team--me--can take a completed game and port it to Linux. Usually this is pretty fast and cheap. If they had concerned themselves with portability right from the start, there would be no problem at all.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Full interview is <a href="http://cheerfulghost.com/game/22932" target="_blank">here.</a>
nVidia's new linux drivers claim to give up to a 100% performance boost in 3D games. Well that was a month ago.
<!--quoteo(post=2040810:date=Dec 6 2012, 08:37 AM:name=Jekt)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Jekt @ Dec 6 2012, 08:37 AM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=2040810"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->Some necromancy up in here.
Ryan Gordon, the guy largely responsible for <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ryan_C._Gordon#Ported_titles" target="_blank">these linux ports</a> was interviewed last week.
Interesting pull out.
Full interview is <a href="http://cheerfulghost.com/game/22932" target="_blank">here.</a>
nVidia's new linux drivers claim to give up to a 100% performance boost in 3D games. Well that was a month ago.
So keen.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Hiring Gordon probably wouldn't be a bad idea. OSX and Linux clients plus the Linux server all in one contract from one source and afaik he usually creates ports that are easy to maintain by the original developer without them having to go to Gordon after the initial port is done.
And about nVidia: my AMD HD5770 just died a couple of weeks ago and I went nVidia for my replacement and - fudge yeah - the drivers are soooo much better than what AMD delivers.
just making my interest in the linux version known. i've signed up for the steam linux beta, but i'm not in yet ... <i>EDIT: just a few hours after i wrote this, i got in, yay!</i>
i'd love to see them hire ryan gordon for the game. it would probably be ported in just a few weeks (assuming gordon's not up to his ears in work already)
AurOn2COOKIES! FREEDOM, AND BISCUITS!AustraliaJoin Date: 2012-01-13Member: 140224Members, Forum Moderators, NS2 Playtester, Forum staff
edited December 2012
Linux gaming faster: <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bLlBtxiadP8" target="_blank">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bLlBtxiadP8</a> Enough Said. OOPS, wrong link, updated it. go to 1:27 if you want the statisticks.
We're currently working on the Linux port of the dedicated server. We're hoping to have this done for a big update to the game in January. After that we'll be working in an OpenGL implementation of the renderer, which we may try to do as an open source/community project so we can move it along faster.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd--> I asked him if a native NS2 client will be coming to Linux now that the steam for Linux beta is open. I'm very much looking forward to playing, it looks like a very original game (aside from being a sequel, you know what I mean).
<a href="http://www.unknownworlds.com/ns2/news/2010/2/spark_engine_questions_and_answers_1" target="_blank">http://www.unknownworlds.com/ns2/news/2010...s_and_answers_1</a> I can remember this blog post and hope a dream comes true ;)
In terms of Valve's experience with Left 4 Dead 2, here's a link: <a href="http://blogs.valvesoftware.com/linux/faster-zombies/" target="_blank">http://blogs.valvesoftware.com/linux/faster-zombies/</a>
I would definitely play a Linux NS2 version. This would be an important strategic move in many ways since many developers and coders prefer Linux. Making the game easy to use and develop on in Linux would get even more high-quality community contributions. Of course the open Steam-for-linux beta should be taken as another sign of where gaming is going.
The steam client for linux is only a deb file but if you extract the steam.sh file you can still launch the client and install the linux games. TF2 ran incredibly well for me (opensuse 12.2) as did Killing Floor and Amnesia.
download media.steampowered.com/client/installer/steam.deb open the .deb open the data.tar.gz extract the /lib/steam/bootstraplinux_ubuntu12_32.tar.xz file to any directory you want execute ./steam.sh from that directory and let it update enter your login
I know this thread is for NS2 Linux, but I'm using it for a slight derail for Linux Steam promotion :)
Hmm...interesting distro choices. I'm a backtrack user myself - it has all kinds of neat little tools and kernel tweaks that allow you to get into all sorts of trouble with your preferred government of choice, already set up right out of the box. Or if you're just really into cyber forensics, that works as well. If it had cinnamon included I couldn't think of any reason to use any other distro.
<!--quoteo(post=2009550:date=Nov 4 2012, 09:52 AM:name=Squishpoke)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Squishpoke @ Nov 4 2012, 09:52 AM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=2009550"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->I definitely would not.
Linux is for work, not gaming.
(But as a server host for NS2, might be fine).<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Right now, yes, I absolutely agree. But things can easily change. Computers in general started out for work and not play. Android runs on Linux, and Android (like all mobile or otherwise embedded end user device OSes) is almost purely for content consumption with very limited content creation (vis a vis - work) and therefore you could say that Android is for gaming, and not work. Other examples of "linux for play" implementations include tivo, webOS, and many others.
Remember, Linux is just the kernel - the end user never really "sees" Linux, even on a de-facto Linux distro, rather they "see" bash, sh, or x.org, with gnome or kde on top.
<!--quoteo(post=2027900:date=Nov 18 2012, 11:22 AM:name=ts0mbi)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (ts0mbi @ Nov 18 2012, 11:22 AM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=2027900"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->With he upcoming Steam Linux release, it'd be great if NS2 would go ahead and start working on a Linux client (and server). I preordered the deluxe edition years back, but I'm willing to support the possible Linux release by buying another copy of the game -- either for myself or someone else.
As there won't be many releases on Steam linux port in a while, wouldn't it be also great for sales if NS2 was there as early on as possible? Certainly it would get a lot of media attention.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
This would score HUGE brownie points with the linux community, as they already have a limited selection of games as it is. I think you could see at least a noticeable spike in customers the day a linux port hits steam.
So where can I buy or pledge NS2 on Linux? I want to get rid of Windows as soon as possible. TF2 is there, I'm waiting for more Source games (Valve will probably have a lot easier time with it now) to move to Linux. Once that is done I think we'll have a chance of more realistic move of further games.
<!--quoteo(post=2051868:date=Dec 27 2012, 06:13 PM:name=zimzum)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (zimzum @ Dec 27 2012, 06:13 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=2051868"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->The steam client for linux is only a deb file but if you extract the steam.sh file you can still launch the client and install the linux games. TF2 ran incredibly well for me (opensuse 12.2) as did Killing Floor and Amnesia.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
already have a copy of NS2 bought on steam for windoze... will pay again if it works that way to get NS2 on linux and not have to reboot my machine to play after work :-)
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No need to respond to spambot, just report them using the report feature and we'll take care of it ;)
I did report him, but the reason why I posted that was to warn other users before they clicked it.
<a href="http://steamcommunity.com/app/221410" target="_blank">http://steamcommunity.com/app/221410</a>
As there won't be many releases on Steam linux port in a while, wouldn't it be also great for sales if NS2 was there as early on as possible? Certainly it would get a lot of media attention.
In my memories ns2 was cross-platform and it became windows only because of steam.
Now that steam is compatible on linux(still beta) ns2 should be compatible too. Especially when we know that ns2 doesn't work on wine.
Go on you have few month before the official linux steam release, plenty of time :)
Ryan Gordon, the guy largely responsible for <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ryan_C._Gordon#Ported_titles" target="_blank">these linux ports</a> was interviewed last week.
Interesting pull out.
<!--QuoteBegin-Ryan+--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Ryan)</div><div class='quotemain'><!--QuoteEBegin-->A one-man team--me--can take a completed game and port it to Linux. Usually this is pretty fast and cheap. If they had concerned themselves with portability right from the start, there would be no problem at all.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Full interview is <a href="http://cheerfulghost.com/game/22932" target="_blank">here.</a>
nVidia's new linux drivers claim to give up to a 100% performance boost in 3D games. Well that was a month ago.
So keen.
Ryan Gordon, the guy largely responsible for <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ryan_C._Gordon#Ported_titles" target="_blank">these linux ports</a> was interviewed last week.
Interesting pull out.
Full interview is <a href="http://cheerfulghost.com/game/22932" target="_blank">here.</a>
nVidia's new linux drivers claim to give up to a 100% performance boost in 3D games. Well that was a month ago.
So keen.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Hiring Gordon probably wouldn't be a bad idea.
OSX and Linux clients plus the Linux server all in one contract from one source and afaik he usually creates ports that are easy to maintain
by the original developer without them having to go to Gordon after the initial port is done.
And about nVidia: my AMD HD5770 just died a couple of weeks ago and I went nVidia for my replacement and - fudge yeah - the drivers are soooo much better than what AMD delivers.
i'd love to see them hire ryan gordon for the game. it would probably be ported in just a few weeks (assuming gordon's not up to his ears in work already)
<a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bLlBtxiadP8" target="_blank">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bLlBtxiadP8</a>
Enough Said.
OOPS, wrong link, updated it.
go to 1:27 if you want the statisticks.
We're currently working on the Linux port of the dedicated server. We're hoping to have this done for a big update to the game in January. After that we'll be working in an OpenGL implementation of the renderer, which we may try to do as an open source/community project so we can move it along faster.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
I asked him if a native NS2 client will be coming to Linux now that the steam for Linux beta is open. I'm very much looking forward to playing, it looks like a very original game (aside from being a sequel, you know what I mean).
<a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7LVtbTurdCk" target="_blank">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7LVtbTurdCk</a>
Enough Said.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Citation needed.
<a href="http://www.unknownworlds.com/ns2/news/2010/2/spark_engine_questions_and_answers_1" target="_blank">http://www.unknownworlds.com/ns2/news/2010...s_and_answers_1</a>
I can remember this blog post and hope a dream comes true ;)
In terms of Valve's experience with Left 4 Dead 2, here's a link: <a href="http://blogs.valvesoftware.com/linux/faster-zombies/" target="_blank">http://blogs.valvesoftware.com/linux/faster-zombies/</a>
The steam client for linux is only a deb file but if you extract the steam.sh file you can still launch the client and install the linux games. TF2 ran incredibly well for me (opensuse 12.2) as did Killing Floor and Amnesia.
download media.steampowered.com/client/installer/steam.deb
open the .deb
open the data.tar.gz
extract the /lib/steam/bootstraplinux_ubuntu12_32.tar.xz file to any directory you want
execute ./steam.sh from that directory and let it update
enter your login
I know this thread is for NS2 Linux, but I'm using it for a slight derail for Linux Steam promotion :)
<!--quoteo(post=2009550:date=Nov 4 2012, 09:52 AM:name=Squishpoke)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Squishpoke @ Nov 4 2012, 09:52 AM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=2009550"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->I definitely would not.
Linux is for work, not gaming.
(But as a server host for NS2, might be fine).<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Right now, yes, I absolutely agree. But things can easily change. Computers in general started out for work and not play. Android runs on Linux, and Android (like all mobile or otherwise embedded end user device OSes) is almost purely for content consumption with very limited content creation (vis a vis - work) and therefore you could say that Android is for gaming, and not work. Other examples of "linux for play" implementations include tivo, webOS, and many others.
Remember, Linux is just the kernel - the end user never really "sees" Linux, even on a de-facto Linux distro, rather they "see" bash, sh, or x.org, with gnome or kde on top.
<!--quoteo(post=2027900:date=Nov 18 2012, 11:22 AM:name=ts0mbi)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (ts0mbi @ Nov 18 2012, 11:22 AM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=2027900"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->With he upcoming Steam Linux release, it'd be great if NS2 would go ahead and start working on a Linux client (and server). I preordered the deluxe edition years back, but I'm willing to support the possible Linux release by buying another copy of the game -- either for myself or someone else.
As there won't be many releases on Steam linux port in a while, wouldn't it be also great for sales if NS2 was there as early on as possible? Certainly it would get a lot of media attention.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
This would score HUGE brownie points with the linux community, as they already have a limited selection of games as it is. I think you could see at least a noticeable spike in customers the day a linux port hits steam.
Use Gentoo and steam-overlay, Luke.
what he said.
already have a copy of NS2 bought on steam for windoze... will pay again if it works that way to get NS2 on linux and not have to reboot my machine to play after work :-)