Covert Oral Fleet
cracker_jackmac
Join Date: 2002-11-04 Member: 6891Members, Constellation, Reinforced - Shadow
Join Date: 2002-11-04 Member: 6891Members, Constellation, Reinforced - Shadow
<div class="IPBDescription">server quality</div> I was pondering on an idea and i was wondering how people would react to it. My server is getting more and more popular and i have alot of ppl wanting to do favors for Covert Oral. Such as making the website, desktop backgroups, additional servers using the "covert oral" name, and even a covert oral honor clan.
I dunno why they do this, but it makes my life a little easier, all i ask is that they get credit for thier work.
But then i remember why i started my own server, because there are a ton of servers out there that suck! and i'm not talking about pings, i'm talking about the lame **obscenity** admins that kick and ban anyone who kills them or isn't doing exectally what they said. And to me i find that annoying and troublesome. So here is my thought, a Covert Oral fleet of servers.
huh? Whats a "fleet"? A fleet is a bunch of servers using "Covert Oral <i>yourlocation</i> v1.x" as your name. You follow the generic rules as a few more, keeping keping kicks and bans to a minimum.
I.e. A guy was on my server telling me how much it sucked and why. I told him he was wrong and we got into an arguement. he said "you can ban me if you want i don't care!" But i told him i wouldn't ban him, i had no reason to. We played another hour and then he left because it was kinda late. But the fact is, i didn't kick or ban him...he hasn't come back to the server, but the other 13 ppl did <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' valign='absmiddle' alt='biggrin.gif'><!--endemo--> 4 have become regulars.
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Server Event Value
Player Connections: 1602
Server Crashes: 2
Rcon Commands: 0
BAD Rcon Attempts: 2
Total Cheaters Detected: 0
Total Players Kicked: 31
Total Players Banned: 0<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
and i only reset my stats 2 days ago (and they only update once a day)
those kicks are mainly reserveslot but i did kick a 15yr old pretending to be 8 (annoying little **obscenity**). We wouldn't do anything but spam the voice, so i kicked him, he came back, so i banned him for 30min.
The idea of running a fleet is to have a common name that ppl can play on and expect a certian level of quality but with better pings because they have a # of servers to choose from. Its just mainly the admin quality, a few server rules (very few), and no other requirments. Neither I nor any admin of another server is required a reserved slot or any admin power what so ever. It is your server, you pick the admins so long as they are on enough and "cool" headed. (aka not kick/ban happy) Metamods, AMX, adminmod, etc are all your decisions. I have logd/killingspree AM on my server, doesn't mean you have to.
whats does this offer the other sysops? A more full server, because ppl will love your server. A place to host your stats/webpages. We are currently working on a C/mysql/php Live Stats client for HalfD because it sends the logs out anyway. A FQDN for your server using server-x.covertoral.com. (if its dynamic, we have a way of updating it). If you want to run your own covertoral site, I can give you "l
<i>location</i>.covertoral.com but it has to be an IP address server and not geocities or something. you do not have to have your stats compiled in with any other servers if you do not wish to. You don't have to do anything really.
the best analogy is everyone can open Mom/pop quicky marts, but if you all use a common name and use common standards, you'll make more $ (aka cheveron, texico, shell, etc).
this isn't about money, you don't have to pay, you just have to meet the standards.
I dunno why they do this, but it makes my life a little easier, all i ask is that they get credit for thier work.
But then i remember why i started my own server, because there are a ton of servers out there that suck! and i'm not talking about pings, i'm talking about the lame **obscenity** admins that kick and ban anyone who kills them or isn't doing exectally what they said. And to me i find that annoying and troublesome. So here is my thought, a Covert Oral fleet of servers.
huh? Whats a "fleet"? A fleet is a bunch of servers using "Covert Oral <i>yourlocation</i> v1.x" as your name. You follow the generic rules as a few more, keeping keping kicks and bans to a minimum.
I.e. A guy was on my server telling me how much it sucked and why. I told him he was wrong and we got into an arguement. he said "you can ban me if you want i don't care!" But i told him i wouldn't ban him, i had no reason to. We played another hour and then he left because it was kinda late. But the fact is, i didn't kick or ban him...he hasn't come back to the server, but the other 13 ppl did <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' valign='absmiddle' alt='biggrin.gif'><!--endemo--> 4 have become regulars.
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Server Event Value
Player Connections: 1602
Server Crashes: 2
Rcon Commands: 0
BAD Rcon Attempts: 2
Total Cheaters Detected: 0
Total Players Kicked: 31
Total Players Banned: 0<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
and i only reset my stats 2 days ago (and they only update once a day)
those kicks are mainly reserveslot but i did kick a 15yr old pretending to be 8 (annoying little **obscenity**). We wouldn't do anything but spam the voice, so i kicked him, he came back, so i banned him for 30min.
The idea of running a fleet is to have a common name that ppl can play on and expect a certian level of quality but with better pings because they have a # of servers to choose from. Its just mainly the admin quality, a few server rules (very few), and no other requirments. Neither I nor any admin of another server is required a reserved slot or any admin power what so ever. It is your server, you pick the admins so long as they are on enough and "cool" headed. (aka not kick/ban happy) Metamods, AMX, adminmod, etc are all your decisions. I have logd/killingspree AM on my server, doesn't mean you have to.
whats does this offer the other sysops? A more full server, because ppl will love your server. A place to host your stats/webpages. We are currently working on a C/mysql/php Live Stats client for HalfD because it sends the logs out anyway. A FQDN for your server using server-x.covertoral.com. (if its dynamic, we have a way of updating it). If you want to run your own covertoral site, I can give you "l
<i>location</i>.covertoral.com but it has to be an IP address server and not geocities or something. you do not have to have your stats compiled in with any other servers if you do not wish to. You don't have to do anything really.
the best analogy is everyone can open Mom/pop quicky marts, but if you all use a common name and use common standards, you'll make more $ (aka cheveron, texico, shell, etc).
this isn't about money, you don't have to pay, you just have to meet the standards.
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I hope you don't keep this closed to the CO crew because I could definately use this <!--emo&;)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/wink.gif' border='0' valign='absmiddle' alt='wink.gif'><!--endemo-->
This seems like a good idea, but I really don't want to add "Covert Oral" to my hostname... for one thing something very un-NS related comes to mind when I read that <!--emo&;)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/wink.gif' border='0' valign='absmiddle' alt='wink.gif'><!--endemo--> and two its just too specific for me. Instead of a fleet, I'd prefer a new alliance of sort, with a different name and maybe some initials like [CO] instead of Cover Oral.
Later,
Covertoral did originate from DoDmod. Because the little models could "give head". LOL it was funny, but since dod blows now i've moved it to NS.
Since i have already purchased the DNS name covertoral.com and donated the $ to dyndns.org to allow me to totally customize my DNS...i'm going to keep it that way.
The Idea of a [CO] tag to the server name is good enough for me.
I forgot to mention that your servers will be listed on the website as well for all who "join". I don't think join is the proper term, but more of "agree" to use the [CO] tag really.
Covert Oral is really just a catchy name that draws attention, and thats really all its suppose to do (drawing more ppl to the servers).
this is NOT closed to CO crew alone, Anyone can use it, it will have centralized admin-abuse reporting that i will handle (or someone else).
I had a guy last night thinking an admin kicked him unfairly. none of the admins kicked him, he was comm and was typing alot. He got kicked via the anti-flood system. He was happy after i explained all the possiblities to him (i also queried my admins about it too.
the only thing that i ask is that if you agree with [CO] that you put that tag on you hostname cvar and give credit were credit is due. the amount of service you want to use is up to the sysop (stats, admin-abuse reporting, forums, etc).
your ideas are my ideas exactly....the alliance is just so ppl know how the server is handled. its just to let ppl know that the admins on the servers are not abusive and what not with some other handy features is all
anyone interested or am i wasting my time? Golex even seemed to like the idea of an alliance.
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I might but like others I have issue with the name. *shrug*
I have no problem putting something in my consgreet to direct people to other like servers, though.
There are also plugins that will redirect people to another server when the one you run is full, something we can organize when the alliance forms.
i am making a php stats logging program, logs get sent to the php script (or program in win servers) using the logaddress IP PORT function. its live, if you would not helping each other out <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' valign='absmiddle' alt='biggrin.gif'><!--endemo-->
im happy to volunteer with getting things going (ie: admin abuse report, cheat report, stats, ban database, etc).
one suggestion i have, is to get the admin mod admins going on a mysql database, using the mysql version of AM. (only for a fleet of servers)
i am making a php stats logging program, logs get sent to the php script (or program in win servers) using the logaddress IP PORT function. its live, if you would not helping each other out <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' valign='absmiddle' alt='biggrin.gif'><!--endemo-->
im happy to volunteer with getting things going (ie: admin abuse report, cheat report, stats, ban database, etc).
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i have no need ofr Mysql because each server is its own, it is just an alliance of standards...not shared admin powers.
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well, i'm working on it, but i can't of anything that isn't too corny arlready.
[QNS] = Quality NS servers ?
[FA] = Federation of Admins
i mean, i've never been good with names like that. I need suggestions as this is not my show, its just something i'm trying to get started.
not the best im sure but something similar might sound good
NSAF would look hella cool! and it has a good point.
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we can do virtual hosting or has each website link to a single rules page. or we all could do mirrors such as
nsaf.covertoral.com
nsaf.golex.com (i didn't remember your addy)
and we would have a mirror that hosted the site. or something...there is alot we could do. addresses be virtual hosts (directories associated with DNS names).
i do not have the bandwidth to even host my own website. if someone did, that would be awsome. I do not have the $ to register another DNS name (for 1 year maybe...but its not worth it), BUT i can donate money to dyndns.org and get yet another customDNS added or make a new account for the DNS server (i think that is the best).
also, public/private forums, and who would design the site? i'm all thumbs there.
/me thinks its time to get more bandwidth
the only other option i have is to shutdown my uber-cool NS server and host all this....i don't wana do that.
just some scretching ideas
I also love the name... I was going to add it to the front of my servers name but I guess the end is fine too.
A few things:
We need to create a standard set of rules for the servers right? Might want to take it further and have a standard layout for the consgreet in general (all I need is a place to put the server news).
We also get need to organize the relaying plugin (if we want to do that)... we'll have to organize a ring, so one server points to the next server which points to the next server etc.
╙No racial slang.
╙Use of the term 'pwn' or 'pwned' is forbidden, as this is not Counter-Strike.
╙No cheating or exploiting a glitch.
╙Please keep cursing via microphones at a minimum.
╙Listen to your team-mates.
╙If you are still new to NS, join the Marine team and do what your commander tells you to.
╙Do not argue an admin's decision.
╙Unless the team is ok with it, you only need 1-2 gorges at any given time.
╙Do not spam the voice comm! Keep general chat to the forums (upsoon)
╙Have fun! :)
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that is from my server rules page....its jsut a starting block.
Our servers are nation, thus we should uphold national standards:
for US servers:
Freedom of speech (i'm a big one on this, i don't believe in censorship at all, no i'm not a liberal democrat)
UK servers:
I dunno, i don't live in the UK, but filter all forms of the word "yank" plz. i mean, its derogitory and useless. so i classified it as racial-slur. (i dunno what we call UK ppl, but i would ban that too if i knew we had a word for it)
AU servers:
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THIS IS JUST A STARTING BLOCK! expand on it.
Freedom of speech (i'm a big one on this, i don't believe in censorship at all, no i'm not a liberal democrat)
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Funny thing is I'm a Libertarian and I will not tolerate cussing on my server. I figure if people can't be mature they can be elsewhere. Ah well.
you already know my server rules, i need to make a list of admin rules.
btw, general cussing is very tolerated on my server, although flaming isn't like **** you and stuff.
i don't want ppl flaming on my server, i warn them first, the i kick them, if they flame me in the IRC thats fine, i rarely read it anyway.
I understand that people will sometimes slip up when they are killed unexpectedly "Where the !!?^ did he come from!?" or die without completing an objective that might turn the tide of battle "$#&@!! I almost had it!" That's why the filter is in there.
However, excessive amounts or trying to get around the filter generally gets people removed post-haste.
Anyway, as for the rules I think there should just be a general guideline aiming for maturity with optionals on some things. Clearly some people don't think that cussing is that big of a deal. It's a flexible thing. Main thing, for me, is that the admins don't abuse their power, do what they can for the fun of the game and that the rules discourage immaturity in a general sense.
Here are my rules from my consgreet for comparison:
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" The server rules are as follows. When in doubt, be mature"
" and use common sense."
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" * No cussing, racial slurs or whining in either chat, voice comm or names."
" * Spamming, either in chat or on the voice chat."
" * Not heeding the directions of the admins."
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Short and concise and, really, the second sentence say it all. The three bullet points are just a spelling out of "be mature and use common sense." BTW, I include whining in there because I really dislike the people who will spend an entire map telling people they hate the map and that the map sucks. I seriously have a bind in CS that says the following: "There are 6000 other CS servers. Chances are one is running a map you like right now. FIND IT." I log out when de_dust, de_aztec, cs_arabstreets and a few other maps come up on my favorite CS server. It is obvious others want to play it so I let them. I expect the same from my players.
for US servers:
Freedom of speech (i'm a big one on this, i don't believe in censorship at all, no i'm not a liberal democrat)<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Well, you do have a 'right to free speech' however, that right is govermental. -NOT- private. (It means that the goverment can't pass any law or otherwise stopping your right to be heard.)
Now, you may have that right to free speech. But, who's going to listen.
Anyhow, to the point. You may have a right to free speech but, you don't have the right to make an **** of yourself/be nasty/disrupt the peace. So, bleh to that 'rule' =)
ok, i choose the wrong word. these are private servers, so nobody has the *right*
anyway, its not an issuse anymore because NSAF isn't going to enforce language rights (because as we can see, its too hard for us to even agree on that).
so, we won't have a problem with "free speech" or cussing or anything because "to each his own" its all private property and such. and so NSAF servers will have thier own policies on cussing and such.
/me makes self look stupid yet again.