NS2 Eclipse V1

SamusDroid · February 2015

If you aren't already aware, I have been working on balancing Eclipse with the help of some people. It's nearly done, still have some things to figure out what to do. The plan is for it to become official when it's finished.
It's currently on [TA] House of Awesome, DMD, Tactical Gamer, and [SWE] The Thirsty Onos, that I know of.
Workshop
Changelog

See screenshots on workshop page for visual changes

CarNagE1 · February 2015

I played it once and it realy feelt good. If i can suggest something i would work on that teleporter to make it more usefull for both sides (test chamber). Second thing i would divide Power Sub Junction into two rooms with a wall and open doors (maybe a vent to the right side).

Yojimbo · February 2015

CarNagE1 wrote: »

I played it once and it realy feelt good. If i can suggest something i would work on that teleporter to make it more usefull for both sides (test chamber). Second thing i would divide Power Sub Junction into two rooms with a wall and open doors (maybe a vent to the right side).

Wouldn't that make generator monitors nearly impossible to defend for marines if eclipse is start hive?

AurOn2 · February 2015

Computer core is now a fixed spawn for Aliens
Reason: Other spawns where too hard to balance

...nope.

[AwE]Sentinel · February 2015

If it becomes official, will it replace the current eclipse or will it continue to be a separated map?

deathshroud · February 2015

the top left connecter of sub is way to narrow. i like clean triad and the new res node, but it does give marines 3 naturals. Not sure both are needed

we played 2 games on the map, i enjoyed both games but i couldnt really tell if it was better or worse.

i do however like the new gen mon. i think it fixes alot of the issues originally with that room

CarNagE1 · February 2015

Yojimbo wrote: »

Wouldn't that make generator monitors nearly impossible to defend for marines if eclipse is start hive?

Yep the RT should have to be moved to.

BeigeAlert · February 2015

Computer core is still a nightmare to defend for aliens. Marines have long lines of sight AND elevation all around. Raise it up and eliminate the staircases.

Also, Maintenance feels extremely isolated right now.

It also has the exact same problems in the south. Marines take Power Sub/South Loop = Marine win.

[AwE]Sentinel · February 2015

I have the feeling that it became difficult to attack the rine RTs. And attacking Keyhole is a nightmare as alien.

SamusDroid · February 2015

[AwE]Sentinel wrote: »

If it becomes official, will it replace the current eclipse or will it continue to be a separated map?

It will replace the Eclipse that is there.

DaanVanYperen · February 2015

Ran it through the profiler: ns2_eclipse_v1
(for comparison: ns2_derelict ns2_nyx)
Nb. in between versions so excuse any weirdness

d4rkAlf · February 2015

I've played a couple of rounds on this map and so far it's been a big step forward from vanilla Eclipse. Lots of things still need work of course, my personal pet peeve is the limited space around the marine starting tech point. It's really difficult for the marines to kill skulks gnawing on the CC if the skulks are hiding behind the chair. Adding a tad more space along the lines of Control on Veil or Operations on Mineshaft would be nice.

meatmachine · February 2015

Marines can still run straight out of base into very powerful locations like gen mon and power sub. Power sub just isnt a fun place to fight in as aliens (if marines are attempting to bunker down in south loop, you cant engage without risking a flank from the other power sub entrance that leads very quickly from marine start locations.

Oddly though contrary to what other people say/ how they play, I find gen mon perfectly fine to engage in as an alien, and south loop is hella fun to wreck face in as a skulk or lerk. Usually when marines take south loop I find myself racking up kills from the vents while the rest of the team face-slams into the PSJ side. To help aliens defend against that nice spot at the back of PSJ-southloop, perhaps a vent exit from CC in the roof of that little side-room could help?

Maintenance also feels very isolated as someone else mentioned. Maybe the map needs... more symmetry? We shouldnt be afraid to make it slightly more veil-like (its closest analogous map, the most popular map).

And of course, more head-room for fades/lerks/jetpackers wouldnt go amiss.

CarNagE1 · February 2015

I have played another round not as a commader this time ( i have read the changelog and seen PSJ changes that i have sugested ;p). East Foyer RT still is alien sided. Its to easy to keep atacking and fall back to T-Junction. This spot will be taken by gorge tunnels offen. Its a best place for it to have an alien healing station to atack marines base. It have to be bigger! All the battles are in keyhole now when marines are rushing maintenance. The stairs leading to hive are a death pit! It should be biger.

UncleCrunch · February 2015

A 5th hive?
There space that can be filled with little modification on the north side.

Daphisto · February 2015

SamusDroid wrote: »

[AwE]Sentinel wrote: »

If it becomes official, will it replace the current eclipse or will it continue to be a separated map?

It will replace the Eclipse that is there.

That's sweet. I can't wait for this to be completed. Eclipse was a classic map in NS1 but seemed to fade away pretty quickly after it launched for NS2.

Keep up the good work!

SamusDroid · February 2015

I published an update fixing collision geo from the deleted trash in Triad.
Core access intersection had a Flaterectomy and is now flat

Also raised the ceiling in Air Ducts

Scatter · February 2015

Would be good to see the bottom part of the map be retextured with the grey/yellow from around marine spawn. I prefer those much more.

BeigeAlert · February 2015

Scatter wrote: »

Would be good to see the bottom part of the map be retextured with the grey/yellow from around marine spawn. I prefer those much more.

I always figured these areas were the result of not enough time to work on the map.

Daphisto · February 2015

BeigeAlert wrote: »

Scatter wrote: »

Would be good to see the bottom part of the map be retextured with the grey/yellow from around marine spawn. I prefer those much more.

I always figured these areas were the result of not enough time to work on the map.

Yeah, I always wondered why that was like that. Makes sense! Hopefully the new version can complete that style throughout the map.

meatmachine · March 2015

Scatter wrote: »

Would be good to see the bottom part of the map be retextured with the grey/yellow from around marine spawn. I prefer those much more.

Really?
These textures look nice and all (sexiest colour scheme in all of ns2?) but I am not sure I could stomach the lubricated yellow walls everywhere on the map... Plus it IS nice (and kind of vital) to have some kind of variance in schema between areas.

Scatter · March 2015

How vital is it when the two best maps (tram and summit) have the same scheme throughout?

I dislike the dark green of eclipse and the cluttered mess so strongly I think I could stomach the yellow and grey with some variations here and there if needed.

UncleCrunch · March 2015

Scatter wrote: »

How vital is it when the two best maps (tram and summit) have the same scheme throughout?

I dislike the dark green of eclipse and the cluttered mess so strongly I think I could stomach the yellow and grey with some variations here and there if needed.

The problem is that Eclipse contains far more props all other the place compared to other maps. There is complete set just for Eclipse. It can be tricky and time consuming to change the Art. I mean, you change one brick that appears in two different places and you have to redo everything because it would be noticed you have changed something. And as you know: one prop, one texture... (yay)

SamusDroid · November 2015

I found motivation to work on this again, see OP. I updated the changelog and workshop. You can see the visual changes on the workshop page

Saffron_baker · November 2015

AWSOME ECLIPSE REALY NEEDS THIS!!!!!

Hoeloe · November 2015

Found 2 gaps in Power Sub
One near the vent in front of the powernode

And when you go i bit to the right on the ceeling

Flaterectomy · November 2015

I noticed two things, both you might be aware of:

- Occlusion geo issue in the vent from Comp Core -> South Loop
- Black spots in low lights in the corner northwest of Power Subjunction and the Air Ducts -> T Junction vent

Martin7 · November 2015

Stuck spot which I found during the PT today - it´s at the Keyhole-Area.

http://imgur.com/a/ejMxm

Soul_Rider · November 2015

Wow, the response shows people really want this

Keep up the good work @SamusDroid

IeptBarakat · November 2015

Soul_Rider wrote: »

Wow, the response shows people really want this Keep up the good work @SamusDroid

Well Eclipse was one of the most played ns1 maps back in the day like Veil was, but sadly unlike Veil it didn't translate well into ns2 in it's current form.

Funny thing to note is Veil was criticized heavily on it's release for being a 4 techpoint map but now it's one of most voted for maps on pub servers.

Saffron_baker · November 2015

The lamps in air ducts are a bit un centrelised athealst those at the stairs.
There are no rain Particles hitting the windows at horseshoe and East foyer.
Also is it possible to use the animation to the bands when the poker goes on (the one you made) would be awsome!!!!

NS2 Eclipse V1

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