Why Bush Isn't A Cowboy
<div class="IPBDescription">or why he's right to do this</div> People complain about war, they complain about stupid cowboy bush and trying to control everyone like ants, how no-one agrees with him and he needs to be impeached. First off, every time I meet such a person I can barely refrain from giving them a good punch in the stomach for being an idiot about life. Here's the info for people who don't read things carefully, like newspapers.
1) The UN, by law of treaties signed at the end of the gulf war, is already required to go to war with Iraq. This is because he has already broken the laws set down by the UN, and by this law the UN and the countries that are part of the UN are required to invade Iraq again. Remember that 'weapons report' Saddam Heussein released to proove they have no 'weapons of mass destruction'? The report showed no signs of producing weapons of mass destruction, but the USA found tons of stuff they weren't supposed to be producing, and did indeed break UN jurisdiction.
2) Suddam Heussein is probably the most dangerous man in the world right now. He controls a country that is well able to produce things that scares everyone on the planet, and likely has (though little proof of that has actually been released to the public). He is openly against the UN and the United States, and he has slaughtered thousands of his own citizens. Let me put it this way for the people that arn't quite getting it. If a totalitarianist maniac possibly has nukes, chemical and biological weapons, and you were the president, are you just going to say "Oh well, war isn't very nice, I guess we'll just have to see if he actually has some by waiting until one of our cities is wiped off the planet by anthrax or some nasty other creation he has that melts everybody's skin."
3) Bush is smart, and he's prooved it. We're not talking about some guy in a cowboy hat they pulled off the streets of Texas. He's taken years in Harvard, and has been in politics for years more. He wrote tons and tons of speeches to become president, He's an excellent writer and a good public speaker as well. He's had to make lots of smart decisions to get where he is now. They say more people voted for Al Gore, but still almost half the population voted for Bush. And when you think about it, do you think Al Gore would say "Oh well, war isn't very nice, I guess we'll just have to see if he actually has some by waiting until one of our cities is wiped off the planet by anthrax or some nasty other creation he has that melts everybody's skin"? He would not, because Bush and Gore are both incredibly smart people, capable of making the right decisions that could save millions of people.
4) Suddam Heussein is really, really good at propaganda. I'm not sure if you've heard the stuff they say on the news. Headlines like "The United States continues to get ready for a war with Iraq, and Suddan Heussein complains that the United States have not yet found anything." This heard on January 3, 3 days before the weapon inspectors released their report. Also, you could say that its wrong since the Weapon Inspectors didn't really find much (In operation). But remember Bush is also tied right in with the CIA, if they are sending over troops to Iraq and getting ready, they probably have damn good reason that likely hasn't been released to the public, and Bush has consent of other people that agree with him.
5) There are tons and tons of people that agree with what Bush is doing. The newspapers and news stations on TV don't talk about them much, because we all know that the newspapers and news stations don't want to tell the public the truth for the sake of letting the public know what they deserve, they want to tell people the "truth" so they can make as much money as possible, and alot of the time what they tell you isn't quite the truth.
6) Try this. Guess what, you're the president. Some madman (Proven, don't question his insanity just for the sake of this) is running a country and has openly said that he wants to destroy the United States. He has the money to make Nuclear and Chemical Weapons, he has the backing of thousands of fanatics (Religion is irrelevant) who have also prooved their insanity by acting alongside the madman's causes and even blow themselves up occasionaly with dynamite. This madman has Nukes, he has his anthrax, his flesh eating viruses, he wants to destroy you, he's trying to, you have no idea how much time there will be between <b>Now™</b> and when <b>New York is wiped off the planet™</b>. You can do one of two things: 1. Nothing; 2. Do something about it. In order to help you with your decision, call upon the events of the past: World Trade Center blown up by the same people, thousands killed
Lets just try to make a decision, I bet for most people it will be the same.
7) There's not going to be a draft, dipshits. USA has a standing army of like 800 000, and close to a million reserves.
1) The UN, by law of treaties signed at the end of the gulf war, is already required to go to war with Iraq. This is because he has already broken the laws set down by the UN, and by this law the UN and the countries that are part of the UN are required to invade Iraq again. Remember that 'weapons report' Saddam Heussein released to proove they have no 'weapons of mass destruction'? The report showed no signs of producing weapons of mass destruction, but the USA found tons of stuff they weren't supposed to be producing, and did indeed break UN jurisdiction.
2) Suddam Heussein is probably the most dangerous man in the world right now. He controls a country that is well able to produce things that scares everyone on the planet, and likely has (though little proof of that has actually been released to the public). He is openly against the UN and the United States, and he has slaughtered thousands of his own citizens. Let me put it this way for the people that arn't quite getting it. If a totalitarianist maniac possibly has nukes, chemical and biological weapons, and you were the president, are you just going to say "Oh well, war isn't very nice, I guess we'll just have to see if he actually has some by waiting until one of our cities is wiped off the planet by anthrax or some nasty other creation he has that melts everybody's skin."
3) Bush is smart, and he's prooved it. We're not talking about some guy in a cowboy hat they pulled off the streets of Texas. He's taken years in Harvard, and has been in politics for years more. He wrote tons and tons of speeches to become president, He's an excellent writer and a good public speaker as well. He's had to make lots of smart decisions to get where he is now. They say more people voted for Al Gore, but still almost half the population voted for Bush. And when you think about it, do you think Al Gore would say "Oh well, war isn't very nice, I guess we'll just have to see if he actually has some by waiting until one of our cities is wiped off the planet by anthrax or some nasty other creation he has that melts everybody's skin"? He would not, because Bush and Gore are both incredibly smart people, capable of making the right decisions that could save millions of people.
4) Suddam Heussein is really, really good at propaganda. I'm not sure if you've heard the stuff they say on the news. Headlines like "The United States continues to get ready for a war with Iraq, and Suddan Heussein complains that the United States have not yet found anything." This heard on January 3, 3 days before the weapon inspectors released their report. Also, you could say that its wrong since the Weapon Inspectors didn't really find much (In operation). But remember Bush is also tied right in with the CIA, if they are sending over troops to Iraq and getting ready, they probably have damn good reason that likely hasn't been released to the public, and Bush has consent of other people that agree with him.
5) There are tons and tons of people that agree with what Bush is doing. The newspapers and news stations on TV don't talk about them much, because we all know that the newspapers and news stations don't want to tell the public the truth for the sake of letting the public know what they deserve, they want to tell people the "truth" so they can make as much money as possible, and alot of the time what they tell you isn't quite the truth.
6) Try this. Guess what, you're the president. Some madman (Proven, don't question his insanity just for the sake of this) is running a country and has openly said that he wants to destroy the United States. He has the money to make Nuclear and Chemical Weapons, he has the backing of thousands of fanatics (Religion is irrelevant) who have also prooved their insanity by acting alongside the madman's causes and even blow themselves up occasionaly with dynamite. This madman has Nukes, he has his anthrax, his flesh eating viruses, he wants to destroy you, he's trying to, you have no idea how much time there will be between <b>Now™</b> and when <b>New York is wiped off the planet™</b>. You can do one of two things: 1. Nothing; 2. Do something about it. In order to help you with your decision, call upon the events of the past: World Trade Center blown up by the same people, thousands killed
Lets just try to make a decision, I bet for most people it will be the same.
7) There's not going to be a draft, dipshits. USA has a standing army of like 800 000, and close to a million reserves.
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<!--QuoteBegin--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->He wrote tons and tons of speeches to become president, He's an excellent writer and a good public speaker as well.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
They're called ghostwriters. The President very rarely, if ever, writes his own speeches. He sure rehearses them, but he doesn't write them.
It's during all those Q&A sessions, when he gets caught by a question he's not prepared for, that he starts to stammer and make up words.
Come on guys, not everyone fully understands what we learn in the (usually) semester-long politics class.
Heck, I know someone who thinks that fox News Network is the only unbiased news network on the planet (he HATES CNN, I mean Communist News Network).
As for the UN, if America cooperated with the UN, like we should (since we're the biggest), then they'd support us more often. Since we do whatever anyways, why not oppose us, so that just in case we don't win, the UN will still be able to exist. It's a lot bigger to say that the world dealt with a problem, not just the US. And since the world can get away with our nice&friendly gung-ho FP, why not? Less blame on the big cheeses of other countries.
I personally would only support a UN-supported effort against anyone. I feel that all problems dealing with countries should go through the UN, not the US.. <!--emo&:(--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/sad.gif' border='0' valign='absmiddle' alt='sad.gif'><!--endemo-->
I, of course, am an idealist, but I also realize it'll never happen <!--emo&:(--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/sad.gif' border='0' valign='absmiddle' alt='sad.gif'><!--endemo-->
If the last gulf war says anything, there were only like 250 casualties or so on the US side. Most of them were from friendly fire or jeep rollovers or something too. Sadly, we killed more of our troops than Saddam did.
Also, shouldn't this be with the other thread? heh
Let the games begin. <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' valign='absmiddle' alt='biggrin.gif'><!--endemo-->
<!--QuoteBegin--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->First off, every time I meet such a person I can barely refrain from giving them a good punch in the stomach for being an idiot about life. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Punching people for being an idiot over petty political matters. I see something wrong with this picture.
<!--QuoteBegin--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->Suddam Heussein is really, really good at propaganda.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> vs. <!--QuoteBegin--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->Suddam Heussein is probably the most dangerous man in the world right now.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
<!--QuoteBegin--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->There are tons and tons of people that agree with what Bush is doing.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> vs. <!--QuoteBegin--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->he has the backing of thousands of fanatics (Religion is irrelevant)<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
<!--QuoteBegin--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->He's taken years in Harvard<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Did you know, you get an honourary Masters degree from Cambridge University for being enrolled tere for 5 years, no matter what you have done in those 5 years. Lots of people have spent years at University, it does not mean that they are clever, correct, or mentally balanced.
<!--QuoteBegin--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->Suddam Heussein<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Im pretty sure thats spelt Saddam Hussain. Im not implying that you don't know much about the guy, just picking up on a small typo. <!--emo&;)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/wink.gif' border='0' valign='absmiddle' alt='wink.gif'><!--endemo-->
<!--QuoteBegin--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->Guess what, you're the president.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
I am? Goodness me. Where's my sandwich?
<!--QuoteBegin--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->This madman has Nukes,<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
No he doesn't.
<!--QuoteBegin--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->he has his anthrax,<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
No he doesn't.
<!--QuoteBegin--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->his flesh eating viruses, <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Only as part of a personal collection. Like stamps, but for evil psychotic dictators.
<!--QuoteBegin--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->he wants to destroy you,<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
He may well do. But I want to destroy everyone who wears a polo neck tshirt. Doesn't mean that I ever will.
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No he is not. I can tell this by the lack of <b>nuclear weapons?</b> and other <b>Saddam-related-explosions?</b>.
<!--QuoteBegin--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->7) There's not going to be a draft, dipshits. USA has a standing army of like 800 000, and close to a million reserves.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
<!--emo&::asrifle::--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/asrifle.gif' border='0' valign='absmiddle' alt='asrifle.gif'><!--endemo--> <!--emo&::asrifle::--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/asrifle.gif' border='0' valign='absmiddle' alt='asrifle.gif'><!--endemo--> <!--emo&::asrifle::--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/asrifle.gif' border='0' valign='absmiddle' alt='asrifle.gif'><!--endemo--> <!--emo&::asrifle::--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/asrifle.gif' border='0' valign='absmiddle' alt='asrifle.gif'><!--endemo--> die evil alien scum!!! ////asd ...
On a sidenote, I'm really looking at it in a more 'suspisious' kind of view, because I cant find a better word for it because I'm tired. It's mostly true, unless you <b>poke it</b> with the <b>Brit Stick</b>
Surely that should be:
Ho Ho Fam, thats the way, just <b>poke fun™</b>.
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He's got a hat. You can't argue with a hat.
It makes a good point.
Surely that should be:
Ho Ho Fam, thats the way, just <b>poke fun™</b>.
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Or perhaps even:
<b>poke fun©Fam 2002-2003</b>
The whole thing just boils down to another imperialist war. Nothing exciting about the whole thing, and the so called "war on terrorism", is just a replacement for "Cold War II".
You want to know reality instead of baseless conjectures? Then <a href='http://www.marxists.org' target='_blank'>read some stuff from here.</a>
4) But remember Bush is also tied right in with the CIA, if they are sending over troops to Iraq and getting ready, they probably have damn good reason that likely hasn't been released to the public, <b>and Bush has consent of other people that agree with him.</b>
5) <b>There are tons and tons of people that agree with what Bush is doing.</b> The newspapers and news stations on TV don't talk about them much, because we all know that the newspapers and news stations don't want to tell the public the truth for the sake of letting the public know what they deserve, they want to tell people the "truth" so they can make as much money as possible, and alot of the time what they tell you isn't quite the truth.
6) Try this. Guess what, you're the president. Some madman (Proven, don't question his insanity just for the sake of this) is running a country and has openly said that he wants to destroy the United States. He has the money to make Nuclear and Chemical Weapons, he has the backing of thousands of fanatics (Religion is irrelevant) who have also prooved their insanity by acting alongside the <b>madman's causes and even blow themselves up occasionaly with dynamite.</b><!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
I highlighted my favorite parts <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' valign='absmiddle' alt='biggrin.gif'><!--endemo-->
Sorry Tzar, but they started the flame, I'm just helping <!--emo&;)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/wink.gif' border='0' valign='absmiddle' alt='wink.gif'><!--endemo-->
My first favorite, found in 4)
My god! He has the consent of other people that agree with him? That's amazing! That's like saying that people who consent agree with him! Too bad those that don't won't have their opinions reasoned out, or listened to.
5)
more of 4)
6)
my favorite. So Saddam sure sent a lot of suicide bombers when his troops surrendered. Man, he was the suicide bombing king. Especially all of <b>Saddam's</b> suicide bombing terrorists all over the world! [/sarcasm]
Seriously my friend, get off the couch and read a politics book. You've been brainwashed, and will vote republican the rest of your life.
Oh, sidenote--Didn't Hitler have the consent of those who agreed with him when he slaughtered all the Jews? (SORRY to bring that up in this thread, too, but I wanna make a point about grammar, and I couldn't think of a better genocide, maybe [edit]Milosevic[/edit]?)
[edit] Thanks, Injury! [/edit]
I'm all for Imperialism by the way and I "vote" Mart as Emperor of all humanity (which isn't much if you take a look at humanity). All hail.
my fringe political group is soooo much cooler.
<a href='http://infoshop.org' target='_blank'>infoshop.org</a>
it's just inpossible according to phisics
Not to be mean or nasty, but you could easily change that name with Bush. And he does do most of this, just because he can, and no one can stop him. The more a president fights, the more he liked... "oh sweet! We're killing (usually bad) people, cooooool" <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' valign='absmiddle' alt='tounge.gif'><!--endemo-->
my fringe political group is soooo much cooler.
<a href='http://infoshop.org' target='_blank'>infoshop.org</a><!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Marxism is a fringe political group? i didnt know that... But um that link isnt to a political group but an online archive of marxist literature. i'm not sure who runs it, but they dont do a very good job of proofreading. there are many mistakes in a lot of their stuff, but i haven't found any blatantly distorting mistakes so for now i am endorsing their work <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.natural-selection.org/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' valign='absmiddle' alt='smile.gif'><!--endemo-->
And if you want to talk about the problems with Anarchism, i would be happy to. Start a thread expressing why and what u know... Anarchism isn't progressive and it isn't revolutionary, it's petty-bourgeios sophistry.
Injury-Milosevic. That man is a ****. I went to Kosovo, and got to see war up close and personal. I also had the pleasure of seeing a 3rd world nation. Be very happy with what you have people, because I know just how low it can really go.
Zergling-Isn't property-less anarchy the ultimate goal of true Marxism?
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Your friend is right. Except it's not the Communist New Network, it's the Clinton News Network. Oh and before anyone new of Clinton it was just the Crap News Network.
Though I have to admit, it's good for a chuckle now and then. Or was that MSNBC. No, maybe it was ABC. No, maybe it was NBC. Hmm. CBS?
I can't remember. They all taste like wheat-grass to me.
Oh and btw, I wouldn't be talking about how silly people look wearing cowboy hats if you're in Texas. Nothing specific, just don't say I didn't warn you.
And when did a large group of people agreeing on something become the lone definition of fanatics?
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anthrax is really easy to get.
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anthrax is really easy to get.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Really? Where?
No he doesn't.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
anthrax is really easy to get.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
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sorry about that, but anyway. I have to agree with Comprox.
Saddam Hussein likely has weapons of mass destruction. So does Britain, France, China, Israel.... etc, etc, etc. What makes them different? Bush says that Saddam is evil, and not the others. All of the countries I named above (and more) have done equally, if not more, morally reprehensible acts against their citizens.
I'm not old enough to be drafted or whatever, but I'm not willing to go risk my life over the opinions of out president. He thinks some people are evil, so it's our responsibility to take them out? All people on this planet have equal moral judgement -- nobody's opinion is more valid than another's. For example, if I said that Tony Blair, or Ariel Sharon, or Zhang Zemin was evil, there would be just as much pretext to go to war with them. It's somebody else's belief that I don't share, and I don't want to die over that.
Look at WW1. Do you think a fraction of those men even knew what they were fighting over? And they all died.
None of you people take this stuff seriously. You just spout off "Doesn't matter, I'm sure he doesnt have anthrax, he couldnt possibly have nukes, Bush is stupid, you bush supporter, you can't get anthrax. My finger smells"
First off, although Suddam and Suicide Bombers are not really connected directly, they are still fighting for the same thing. Their right to own their own land and do what they want on that land, and be against americanism and their allies. Plus, not many people know that the CIA suspects Suddam of secretly funding some Al Queda members.
You also don't realize how easy it is to get anthrax. Now, it's not like a "make it in your basement with baking soda" thing. But, when you're a totalitarianist country that has tons of money at you're disposal, it's easy to get. A single research lab with the proper materials can produce tons of anthrax.
As for Nukes, Suddam has been running nuclear programs for a long time. No-one is really sure if they have nukes or not, but it is considered to be a serious posibility.
But the scariest part is the research they've put into biological warfare. Like Japan or USA is leading in electronics and computers, Iraq is leading in biological and virus studies. They've even been researching ways of making anthrax stronger, so it transfers between humans better, and even researching ways of targeting certain races, so arabs in the USA wouldn't be affected. Back when Clinton was president, the USA used to even fund some virus research in Iraq.
Suddam and the Suicide Bombers in Palestine are directly connected, but you people don't seem to realize it. Suddam has been known to fund the palestinians and arafat, and he has fired SCUD missiles at Tel Aviv.
Maybe to the Iraqis, Bush is the most dangerous man, but who the hell do you support? The guy who wants to kill everyone in North America, or the guy who wants to kill the guy that wants to kill everyone?
<!--QuoteBegin--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->sorry about that, but anyway. I have to agree with Comprox.
Saddam Hussein likely has weapons of mass destruction. So does Britain, France, China, Israel.... etc, etc, etc. What makes them different? Bush says that Saddam is evil, and not the others. All of the countries I named above (and more) have done equally, if not more, morally reprehensible acts against their citizens.
I'm not old enough to be drafted or whatever, but I'm not willing to go risk my life over the opinions of out president. He thinks some people are evil, so it's our responsibility to take them out? All people on this planet have equal moral judgement -- nobody's opinion is more valid than another's. For example, if I said that Tony Blair, or Ariel Sharon, or Zhang Zemin was evil, there would be just as much pretext to go to war with them. It's somebody else's belief that I don't share, and I don't want to die over that. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
First off, like mentioned before, <b>no-one's gonna get drafted, dipshits</b>. They already have a huge standing army, and tons of reserves that are better trained that some dipshits they pick up off the street and hand a rifle.
Sure, all the other countries have these weapons, but have any of those other countries ever announced that they want to destroy the united states? Have any of those countries been funding the Al Queda, been funding the Palestinians? Are any of them totalitarianists run by a guy who will stop at nothing to destroy the USA?
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anthrax is really easy to get.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
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anthrax can be found in infected cows.
Well, I guess I did sort of suggest that, but what I really tried to suggest is that I dont like people who refraim from reading and then try to put out an oppinion that makes no sense
Great. Then please tell me: Infected with what? How much of the stuff can be found in the cow? How easy is it to reproduce in controlled environments?
See, what I don't get is that, if it's as easy to reproduce as you claim, Hussein did not already infect a cowherd with whatever necessary and then export it into the US.
There are two options: Either, it'd be that easy and he doesn't want to, which would mean that he is no threat, or it isn't as easy as you claim.
But at least some nameless "terrorists" from Afghanistan attacked us first. What about Iraq? Yeah, we all agree something has to be done about Saddam, but Bush is basically saying, "If you show us your nukes we'll bomb you, and if you don't, you must be hiding them, so we'll still bomb you." So why is he so eager to attack? Well, since the all this war talk started, you haven't heard much mention of the crashing economy, have you? And don't forget how much oil there is in Iraq. So for all Bush's talk of the "war on terrorism," that sure isn't the only thing he's fighting for.
And for all Bush's talk of "protecting the American people," he sure doesn't seem too concerned with actually making the world a better place.
Send in the bombs! Make him suffer! That'll teach 'em, or wait, no. It'll kill tons of civilians and saddam will flee and they'll end up killing some a them fake ones. Woo~ But since America's goverment supports it, it must be a good idea, right?
Not in the least. The ultimate goal of communism is the creation of an egalitarian classless society free from the explotation and misery that is inherent in the capitalist mode of production. As a first step, you abolish private property (not personal goods, but the means of production) by expropriating the bourgeiosie and create an economy that is planned to satisfy basic human needs (this is socialism). Communism can only be achieved after generations of an international socialistic society, when human productive capabilities have eliminated hunger and "generalized want".
he has his anthrax,
No he doesn't.
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Yes he does. He used basic varations of different strains in the Gulf War.
Sadaam also has the ability to produce a nuclear device. With his ties to terrorist netoworks, he could probably obtain weapon's grade plutonium without too much trouble.
Lets not forget the fact that Iraq has not really been too cooperative in the past... even before the Gulf War. Iraq has had this coming for a while now, and the fact that they're even more dangerous than before just makes matters worse.
Bush is not a bad president. He thinks of ways from a militaristic point of view, which is shaping this world up nicely. If Al Gore were elected, the day after September 11th, he'd just be sitting on his thumbs wollowing in his self pitty. He would have done nothing about it, and wouldn't do anything about it. Bush has actually gotten work done.
Also, if it were not for Bush, the American economy would be in much worse shape. Because of his military actions, he has created a demand for troops, which means that the military will pay more for those who enlist, and to keep those who are in the military to stay in. Aka: they pay the military more. This is then used in turn when they visit their homes or go back to base in the states. They buy stuff because they have all this extra money. Take a trip to a military base. All military personell don't have to pay for one thing if they live on base. Housing, food, clothing, etc. is all paid for, so they basically collect cash for nothing. What do they do? They spend it. You'll notice that a LOT of enlisted and officers have really nice cars, good computers, etc. because they have nothing else to spend their money on. This money is funneled into the economy which gives it a nice boost.
Tzar was right about the US's military size, though. We actually have quite a bit more active duty personell than that. Reserves are well into the millions. Simply because the US still has the drafted people during Vietnam that joined the reserves (even if you're not participating in the military, or finished your active duty and what not, you are still a reserve memeber). Active duty personell... is a lot. 1.3 million rings a bell. The only other world powers that can really rival the US is Russia and China.
To quote fam... just because you hate someone with a polo shirt doesn't mean you're going to kill them... or something... Sadaam on the other hand will. That is the nature of his propaganda driven government. A few years ago they had an election. Anyone who didn't vote, or disgraced the ballot were either imprisoned or killed. Until recently when they all voted "yes" in their own blood, but thats something else. Anyways, Sadaam has the drive and the audacity to kill anyone he doesn't like.
Speed 2 Dave: #4. and your reply. It's not the public that has to agree with him. It is the joint chiefs and the senators that must agree with him. Although he can outrule them on any military issue, if a commander does not feel that what he/she is doing is right, then that severly affects the outcome of the war, or the way it is fought. Also, Speed 2 Dave... about the surrenderings. I forgot which tank battalion it was... ack... I should know this. Anyways, Iraqi troops were surrendering in the tens of thousands per day at that point. Sadaam knew this. He diliberatly sent some of his intelligence officers to various parts of the army to "surrender with them." When they did, these officers would blow themselves up. Although none of them were really successful, as no American lives were lost in these maneuvers.
Lets not forget the B-52 that was sent to bomb Sadaam's hideaway. If we ended up killing him on that mission, we wouldn't be here trying to solve a problem we should've solved years ago. We're merely mopping up, and doing it as fast as possible.
Post your rants and raves all you want, but I am in full support of Tzar's views, Bush's leadership, and the impending war in the middle east. Have a good night.