Plans for the Void?

MrShinjunMrShinjun Join Date: 2016-09-05 Member: 222103Members
I am thoroughly enjoying this game. However, there is one thing that fascinates me when I think about the potential possibilities that could be added. The Void. I have always been Obsessed with boundaries in games. I always want to see how far they go, what lies beyond, is there a way to get past them? Minecraft had a point where terrain generation would poop itself (the far lands), and going farther than that would eventually lead to crashing. The Jak games had a man eating fish or squid. GTA IV made your vehicle explode, and GTA V made your vehicle fail and sink down into the Abyss. (which is unfortunately cut short by an invisible floor)

The first thing I did when I started Subnautica was go as far as I could in one direction. I would stay near the ocean floor to see all the cool flora and fauna, and eventually, I came to an immense drop. Of course, I had to go down, and I found that the world eventually ended and that all there was beyond 3000 meters was nothing. I have since been looking to see what the devs plans for the void were. Eventually I found out they planned on filling the void with Reapers and Crabsquids. While the crabsquids are certainly the creepiest creatures I have seen in a game... The devs can do better.

I want a creature unlike any other in the game, in terms of design AND size. I want a creature that can and will swallow a cyclops whole. My idea is that once you stray far enough and/or deep enough, a vile, cartilaginous tentacle takes hold of your ship, and pulls you straight down. Pulls you down for maybe thirty seconds. No escape from your vehicle. You are helplessly pulled for thirty whole seconds, tensing more with each passing second, curious of your fate. Eerie, forboding music plays. There is even the sound of a heart pumping. Your heart. At last, your light finally shines on an orifice, which is what you assume to be a mouth, and it is filled with "teeth", but teeth would not begin to describe the tools that are going to eviscerate you and your craft. You see nothing else but the Maw of the Void (a fitting name for such a beast). And down you go, through the gateway of hell.

I want an experience that makes sure I will never want to return. And if I start to stray near the edges of the map, I want to hear the sounds of my upcoming demise, to sway me to turn around.
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  • SigmalxSigmalx USA Join Date: 2016-07-12 Member: 220132Members
    how bout no! in reality, unless a deep sea trench, the seafloor will be expanded upon and maybe pockets of thermal vents. in reality, there could be a lot of expansion to be had, as they come up with new biomes or make additional pockets of the current biome. maybe a cave network with a pink film of bacteria that would hurt the player, or maybe a graveyard of massive skeletons of unknown creatures (like the lost river. or, it could be an oceanic trench line, and be open, boring ocean.
  • MrShinjunMrShinjun Join Date: 2016-09-05 Member: 222103Members
    Sigmalx wrote: »
    how bout no! in reality, unless a deep sea trench, the seafloor will be expanded upon and maybe pockets of thermal vents. in reality, there could be a lot of expansion to be had, as they come up with new biomes or make additional pockets of the current biome. maybe a cave network with a pink film of bacteria that would hurt the player, or maybe a graveyard of massive skeletons of unknown creatures (like the lost river. or, it could be an oceanic trench line, and be open, boring ocean.

    I'm not saying they can't expand upon the map, but rather than have an empty space at the edge of the map that just uses creatures from other biomes, they have just ONE specific creature, and that creature serves as 1. To keep players in bounds, and 2. Give the void something that makes it unique and awe inspiring.
  • SigmalxSigmalx USA Join Date: 2016-07-12 Member: 220132Members
    the map will expand, it could be deep sea nothingess, and the loneliness expressed would be too much to handle and the player will return to the safety of pepper the peeper;
  • mcawesomemcawesome CT USA Join Date: 2016-09-04 Member: 222056Members
    I actually agree. I have an irrational fear of giant squid, so anything with tentacles would keep me out of there. I was thinking how it would be cool to have a OMG crap my pants monster out there.
  • Nautical_NickNautical_Nick Australia Join Date: 2016-06-12 Member: 218444Members
    I think that at the bottom should be either a massive underwater city (probably the precursors) or new deep sea biomes with massive creatures and powerful thermal vents, maybe both! The biome would obviously have some familiar but more durable fish and some new, unseen fish or sea bed walkers. The city of precursors could hold data entries and other things to reveal more about the mysterious precursors. Some de-activated warpers roaming the streets unconcerned would be really freaky but also very cool! The city could also be in ruins to symbolize that the precursors are sadly extinct.
  • DrownedOutDrownedOut Habitat Join Date: 2016-05-26 Member: 217559Members
    One problem with having a unique, insta-kill creature down there. What about us scanner enthusiasts? Either it is unscannable which will be a glaring omission or it is scannable and if so obvs escapable.
  • TheLordEternalTheLordEternal The Earth Join Date: 2015-08-07 Member: 206851Members
    So you want something like this?
    latest?cb=20150917194504
  • MrShinjunMrShinjun Join Date: 2016-09-05 Member: 222103Members
    DrownedOut wrote: »
    One problem with having a unique, insta-kill creature down there. What about us scanner enthusiasts? Either it is unscannable which will be a glaring omission or it is scannable and if so obvs escapable.

    That is a good point. Maybe simply dying to it will grant you the entry upon respawn. Then again, what about hardcore worlds? Hmm... Maybe it would be the only creature that you get the information from a PDA. And maybe the PDA could be in a precursor base.
  • MrShinjunMrShinjun Join Date: 2016-09-05 Member: 222103Members
    So you want something like this?
    latest?cb=20150917194504

    I do like the idea of that creature. However, I just don't like the lighting of that picture. I like the idea of the player never getting a good look at the creature.
  • WarmindWarmind Connecticut Join Date: 2016-04-13 Member: 215710Members
    Sigmalx wrote: »
    how bout no! in reality, unless a deep sea trench, the seafloor will be expanded upon and maybe pockets of thermal vents. in reality, there could be a lot of expansion to be had, as they come up with new biomes or make additional pockets of the current biome. maybe a cave network with a pink film of bacteria that would hurt the player, or maybe a graveyard of massive skeletons of unknown creatures (like the lost river. or, it could be an oceanic trench line, and be open, boring ocean.
    MrShinjun wrote: »
    Ur dum

    The map will always have a void, no matter how far you expand, there will always be a border.
  • SigmalxSigmalx USA Join Date: 2016-07-12 Member: 220132Members
    Warmind wrote: »
    Sigmalx wrote: »
    how bout no! in reality, unless a deep sea trench, the seafloor will be expanded upon and maybe pockets of thermal vents. in reality, there could be a lot of expansion to be had, as they come up with new biomes or make additional pockets of the current biome. maybe a cave network with a pink film of bacteria that would hurt the player, or maybe a graveyard of massive skeletons of unknown creatures (like the lost river. or, it could be an oceanic trench line, and be open, boring ocean.

    The map will always have a void, no matter how far you expand, there will always be a border.

    Maybe, a massive trench surrounding the play area is viable. curently, it could be massively expanded upon.
  • NecromNecrom The Grave Join Date: 2016-04-07 Member: 215444Members
    Well, lets do a bit of thinking about the the world. From what we know, the planet is all ocean. The only exception being the floater island, which I wouldn't count as land, and the island. If the Island is the only one, and if we know if that if the planet has plate tectonics, then it's a simple solution. The playing area is simply a rising plate, and everywhere else is ocean to deep to sustain life. No light can get deep enough anywhere else to create plant life, the basis for an ecosystem.
  • Midnight_TeaMidnight_Tea Join Date: 2016-08-27 Member: 221790Members
    Here's a suggestion I wrote for the void a while back, including what kind of hazard could be down there waiting for you to get too excited in your exploring.
  • DrownedOutDrownedOut Habitat Join Date: 2016-05-26 Member: 217559Members
    MrShinjun wrote: »
    DrownedOut wrote: »
    One problem with having a unique, insta-kill creature down there. What about us scanner enthusiasts? Either it is unscannable which will be a glaring omission or it is scannable and if so obvs escapable.

    That is a good point. Maybe simply dying to it will grant you the entry upon respawn. Then again, what about hardcore worlds? Hmm... Maybe it would be the only creature that you get the information from a PDA. And maybe the PDA could be in a precursor base.

    As a scanner enthusiast, that would be an acceptable solution to me.
  • TheLordEternalTheLordEternal The Earth Join Date: 2015-08-07 Member: 206851Members
    @MrShinjun
    Well the lightning from that concept art seems to be as a result of it taking place in the dunes, So a different location obviously wouldn't look the same.
  • Casual_PlayerCasual_Player That...is a really good question Join Date: 2016-08-30 Member: 221875Members
    edited September 2016
    When you look deep into the abyss, the abyss stares deeply into you...and the only lights are reflections of it's maw's teeth.

    EDIT: for only those of bravery or foolishness dare to penetrate the Void's veil, so may their destinies are fullfilled by the terror's end.
  • Nautical_NickNautical_Nick Australia Join Date: 2016-06-12 Member: 218444Members
    @Casual_Player, that is 'Deep'
    Get the joke!
  • ArtoriusArtorius Indiana USA Join Date: 2016-09-02 Member: 221998Members
    Maybe the creature confronts you, has a weird mind melding "conversation" telling you to not come back. If you do, it kills you.
    Also think the creature could be a crustacean of some sort.
  • SigmalxSigmalx USA Join Date: 2016-07-12 Member: 220132Members
    or it could be unfathomable (lol fathom) loneliness
  • SigmalxSigmalx USA Join Date: 2016-07-12 Member: 220132Members
    ... no, can we just have it as free open ocean and not punish the players?
  • Phoenix223Phoenix223 Chicago Join Date: 2016-02-18 Member: 213174Members
    edited September 2016
    Sigmalx wrote: »
    ... no, can we just have it as free open ocean and not punish the players?

    Well, that was blunt. The problem is there's nothing to explore beyond the Void. Go out too far and it'll take an eternity getting back. There needs to be something to cancel this pointless trek... unless they intend to expand the world with new biomes.

    Although, to save the player some nightmares, a world border would be ideal. The Carar infection is a new story element, right? What if the Precursors set up a quarantine barrier around the world? That would discourage exploration through the Void (but it wouldn't be as much fun)
  • SigmalxSigmalx USA Join Date: 2016-07-12 Member: 220132Members
    or it could just be open ocean, and the fauna is down where we cant go. i dont care if it takes eternity to return, but it'll be zen to say the least
  • MrShinjunMrShinjun Join Date: 2016-09-05 Member: 222103Members
    Phoenix223 wrote: »
    MrShinjun wrote: »
    ... At last, your light finally shines on an orifice, which is what you assume to be a mouth, and it is filled with "teeth", but teeth would not begin to describe the tools that are going to eviscerate you and your craft. You see nothing else but the Maw of the Void (a fitting name for such a beast). And down you go, through the gateway of hell.

    I think that creature's been taken, Odysseus.

    But there's only one thing I can think of that's perfect for the Void.

    The Single Cell Landscape

    Official Subnautica Concept Art by Pat Presley

    latest?cb=20150906230343

    Black as the Void and just as deadly. What appears to be a doughy morass of tar is a living organism with black tendrils reaching up. Start to enter it, and the area begins to darken a deep red followed by ominous music. Travel too far out into these Farlands... and the picture says everything. A cinematic plays with tendrils of slime covering the window of the sub/exosuit followed by the slime penetrating into the hull... devouring you until all you see... is black.

    Pleasant dreams, kids.

    That is actually pretty damn cool. I also just like the idea of it being a singular organism that extends seemingly forever.
  • Nautical_NickNautical_Nick Australia Join Date: 2016-06-12 Member: 218444Members
    I think I just got nightmares AND thought of a xenomorph shoving a sharp tail or finger through my chest. :'(
  • SigmalxSigmalx USA Join Date: 2016-07-12 Member: 220132Members
    guys, dont get ahead of yourself.
  • dealwithitdogdealwithitdog Texas Join Date: 2016-06-09 Member: 218343Members
    Sigmalx wrote: »
    guys, dont get ahead of yourself.

    No offense, but that's slightly hypocritical.
  • SigmalxSigmalx USA Join Date: 2016-07-12 Member: 220132Members
  • RezcaRezca United States Join Date: 2016-04-28 Member: 216078Members
    There's a ton of ways they can handle The Void. Putting monsters in it, leaving it alone, etc...

    One thing I kinda wish they'd do is stick the random generation into that area - or at least part of it. The main map is where the story happens, and all the intricately crafted detail is, and then outside the map there's an ever changing region that's never the same between two playthroughs. It might not be truly 'infinite' either - giving way to an abyssal void sooner or later perhaps - but still a large spread of unknown.

    Unlikely to happen, but it's something I like to think about at the least.
  • DagothUrDagothUr Florida Join Date: 2016-07-12 Member: 220125Members
    Warmind wrote: »
    The map will always have a void, no matter how far you expand, there will always be a border.

    Except that if there was a border we wouldn't have this issue. A border would let keep us from going into the void.

    The real problem with it is for new players who don't realize just how small the map really is and end up jumping their PRAWN suit off into it.

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