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DelarosaDelarosa Naturally Custom Join Date: 2002-11-29 Member: 10214Members, NS1 Playtester
<div class="IPBDescription">...but it will offend some</div> ---WARNING---
This thread contains the following statements that might offend people:

- CS is bad
- Flay deserves a medal
- "I don't want to be Muslim, I want to be CT"
---WARNING---
With that said...I need to get this out.

Thank you flay, your God, or somewhere close. You and your team have produced the most amazing modification for half life to date. You have somehow been able to create a war, without the war (I will explain this later).

-War-
Your modification creates a special type of game play where camping, is the last thing you want to do. Something many other modifications still struggle with. Your modification plays off of our wildest imagination, dreams, and fears...but does this in a way where we still feel human enough to play it again.

-War, Without The War-
Today, the president of my country has declared war on another country. Being the person I am, I join a CS server with about half of my dormitory. before you fly off the handle, talking about the evils of CS, take this into account, most of the people in my dormitory can't play NS, they don't understand the game play, and all but me and one other person, didn't have half life until about 3 weeks ago. We play CS together, and have a fun time teaching/learning together, it's put a new life on CS. but today, CS is full of a new breed of idiots. People saying things like "I don't want to be Muslim, I want to be CT", and "I wish this game had bombs like real life does"...I have decided that I should no longer play CS until the war has cooled down a little.

-A World Apart-
But Natural Selection, this is a place where world conflicts can NOT influence game play. Mostly because we don't have aliens down here attacking us, something I’m not seeing in our near future. There is no "alien sympathizer" complaining about being marines, and no marines comp.... never mind. But still, you have created a modification where complaints are to a minimum, cheating is also minimal, updates are frequent, and most of all, you have a close knit community where the focus is on game play, and not trash talking that "hacking" opponent.

-The End-
To the Natural Selection Team... you are the ones I salute today

Comments

  • Paranoia2MBParanoia2MB Join Date: 2002-11-09 Member: 7832Members
    Winnar!

    But cs is still bad imo...
  • RedfordRedford Monorailcatfjord Join Date: 2002-04-28 Member: 528Members, NS1 Playtester
    Delrosa, I'd kiss you if I could see your face, but your avatar does not work!
  • DelarosaDelarosa Naturally Custom Join Date: 2002-11-29 Member: 10214Members, NS1 Playtester
    edited March 2003
    <!--QuoteBegin--Redford+Mar 19 2003, 11:37 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Redford @ Mar 19 2003, 11:37 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Delrosa, I'd kiss you if I could see your face, but your avatar does not work! <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    it's remote hosted... on my website, and when i changed servers, i deleted it, i know of the problem, but haven't bothered to hunt down the avatar located on my hard drive....




    is that better?
  • JojoshuaJojoshua NS Guide Professor Join Date: 2002-11-02 Member: 5233Members
    <!--QuoteBegin--Delarosa+Mar 20 2003, 04:18 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Delarosa @ Mar 20 2003, 04:18 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> ---WARNING---
    This thread contains the following statements that might offend people:

    - CS is bad
    - Flay deserves a medal
    - "I don't want to be Muslim, I want to be CT"
    ---WARNING---
    With that said...I need to get this out.

    Thank you flay, your God, or somewhere close. You and your team have produced the most amazing modification for half life to date. You have somehow been able to create a war, without the war (I will explain this later).

    -War-
    Your modification creates a special type of game play where camping, is the last thing you want to do. Something many other modifications still struggle with. Your modification plays off of our wildest imagination, dreams, and fears...but does this in a way where we still feel human enough to play it again.

    -War, Without The War-
    Today, the president of my country has declared war on another country. Being the person I am, I join a CS server with about half of my dormitory. before you fly off the handle, talking about the evils of CS, take this into account, most of the people in my dormitory can't play NS, they don't understand the game play, and all but me and one other person, didn't have half life until about 3 weeks ago. We play CS together, and have a fun time teaching/learning together, it's put a new life on CS. but today, CS is full of a new breed of idiots. People saying things like "I don't want to be Muslim, I want to be CT", and "I wish this game had bombs like real life does"...I have decided that I should no longer play CS until the war has cooled down a little.

    -A World Apart-
    But Natural Selection, this is a place where world conflicts can NOT influence game play. Mostly because we don't have aliens down here attacking us, something I’m not seeing in our near future. There is no "alien sympathizer" complaining about being marines, and no marines comp.... never mind. But still, you have created a modification where complaints are to a minimum, cheating is also minimal, updates are frequent, and most of all, you have a close knit community where the focus is on game play, and not trash talking that "hacking" opponent.

    -The End-
    To the Natural Selection Team... you are the ones I salute today <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Dude.....you have some issues.
  • AgkelosAgkelos Join Date: 2003-02-07 Member: 13243Members
    The war started today? YAY!!!

    Nothing like seeing the casualty sheets from my newspaper in Panama.
    Maybe the oil prices will drop. <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'><!--endemo-->
  • PseudoKnightPseudoKnight Join Date: 2002-06-18 Member: 791Members
    Everyone has a right to their own opinions... even if they're ridiculously stupid. I like NS as much as you do, but praising it because it doesn't have terrorists in it? That's ridiculous. CS is a great game and if you disagree you are in the minority. Actually, I would consider CS more of a sport or medium for online social interaction.

    Please people... just because there is something better than CS in certain areas doesn't mean CS sucks. If you're not playing it because of stupid comments by other people playing, then you shouldn't play any online game. You can't escape stupid people. Wait. That's not totally true. You can't escape stupid people by playing NS instead of CS. However, you can attempt to avoid them with some success by finding a server with mature regulars.
  • masterswordmanmasterswordman Join Date: 2002-12-21 Member: 11303Members
    "Everyone has their own opinions, just yours' are wrong" <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif'><!--endemo-->
  • DelarosaDelarosa Naturally Custom Join Date: 2002-11-29 Member: 10214Members, NS1 Playtester
    edited March 2003
    I propose you with a scenario...

    I go from CS (re-read example used above) to play "America's Army"...now you may ask "shouldn't AA be more full of pro-biased id10ts?" but I provide you the situation as this:

    -As Experience on an AA server-
    A - "Wow, we really are going to war"
    B - "Yeah, scary isn't it"
    C -" yeah, kind of makes me not want to play this game anymore......"
    A - "Yeah, kind of"
    B - "...scary how realistic this game is now"
    C - "yeah, but hey, it's better than Doom"

    now, this is a made-up conversation, mostly because I don't remember what game he said, but the tone in the games of AA (the 3 I played in) were very somber, and the game play was very slow, and planned out. Nothing near the frenzy that CS is in...

    CS is a "GOOD" modification; it's the level of intellect in its players, the planning of the creators, and the real-world influence of the game that I am slightly dissuaded about. It's a mighty fine mod, I’m making a website about it, I’ll support the mod, I just won't support the pro-war/pro-prejudice players that it attracts in times of war.

    NS is a "GOOD" modification because it somehow separates itself from what's happening in the world. And you have to agree, the game play is stellar. In fact, I’m ALSO making a website for this mod too... (Part of the site is up........link in sig)


    this is meant to be a commentary on how well the game was designed and conceived...not an analysis of the maturity levels of computer game players that chose the half life engine for their owning grounds, although the psychological analysis would be rather interesting... but then again, I don't want to do the study work on that one <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.natural-selection.org/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif'><!--endemo-->


    ----About A Comment I Made Earlier----
    I do agree that because you/someone you know is Muslim, that they NOT a terrorist, I still feel bad for quoting someone’s slanderous, prejudice comment... and I am sorry. If I had enough balls to dedicate myself to God as much as you do, I would be Muslim, but I’m lazy, and prefer not to declare a faith.
  • RueRue Join Date: 2002-10-21 Member: 1564Members
    ur not wrong by quoting that , and most of what ur saying makes sence up to a point. that point being that my generation (im 17) that are not in the armed forces view war as a adventure more than what it really is and what has made us think this way? year after year games/tv and files show us people dieing and stuff getting blown up , but as we know its not real whne we see the real thing it just looks much better. the older gens have a mostly diffrent view which i cant comment on.
    As for CS well we all know what the avrage CS players IQ is (somthing between 2 and -1) and as alot of childern play it they are easly influanced in what they think and do. By the way i know there is alot of smart CS players out there but the fact is the majorty are not as bright as others.

    This topic should have been posted in the very bottem forum tho because its not about NS and its on a serious topic.
  • ImmacolataImmacolata Join Date: 2002-11-01 Member: 2140Members, NS1 Playtester, Contributor
    This blatantly is an off topic subject.
  • pardzhpardzh Join Date: 2002-10-25 Member: 1601Members
    <!--QuoteBegin--PseudoKnight+Mar 20 2003, 05:42 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (PseudoKnight @ Mar 20 2003, 05:42 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Everyone has a right to their own opinions... even if they're ridiculously stupid. I like NS as much as you do, but praising it because it doesn't have terrorists in it? That's ridiculous. CS is a great game and if you disagree you are in the minority. Actually, I would consider CS more of a sport or medium for online social interaction.

    Please people... just because there is something better than CS in certain areas doesn't mean CS sucks. If you're not playing it because of stupid comments by other people playing, then you shouldn't play any online game. You can't escape stupid people. Wait. That's not totally true. You can't escape stupid people by playing NS instead of CS. However, you can attempt to avoid them with some success by finding a server with mature regulars. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    I agree with you that CS is a great game. Try playing it with your friends at a LAN, much fun.

    I think what most people hate about it are the people, that's all really.
  • Commander_KittensCommander_Kittens Join Date: 2003-03-03 Member: 14255Members
    CS <u>WAS</u> good a while back before every 9yr old on the palent decided to come together and turn it into a deathmatch with more retarded fragfesting than quake3.
  • Maugan_RaMaugan_Ra Join Date: 2003-03-20 Member: 14727Members
  • AngaDraugAngaDraug Join Date: 2003-02-27 Member: 14075Members
    Nothings wrong with counter-strike, nothings wrong with NS, the fact that there is a war doesn't mean that you should stop playing either. Because you see the games like CS and NS, are well...GAMES! Not real life here bud, what you do there doesn't mean you've done it in the real world. And the terrorits aren't necesarly muslim, i mean look two of the skins wear masks, what are you thinking about here?

    ***KILL THE FATTY***
    <!--emo&::asrifle::--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/asrifle.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='asrifle.gif'><!--endemo--> <!--emo&::gorge::--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/pudgy.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='pudgy.gif'><!--endemo-->
  • DizzyOneDizzyOne BASS&#33; Join Date: 2002-11-17 Member: 9095Members
    <!--QuoteBegin--Commander Kittens+Mar 20 2003, 07:25 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Commander Kittens @ Mar 20 2003, 07:25 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> CS <u>WAS</u> good a while back before every 9yr old on the palent decided to come together and turn it into a deathmatch with more retarded fragfesting than quake3. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    no that is YOUR opinion, i do not agree at all, actually i dont agree on the part where retarded meets quake3, if u dont like fast hardcore gameplay then go play ut2k... (btw im not trying to create a flamewar here <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif'><!--endemo--> ). Dont say stuff like that (like i just did, read : ut2k <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'><!--endemo--> )

    owell nevermind...
  • RyoOhkiRyoOhki Join Date: 2003-01-26 Member: 12789Members
    Horray! The converts flow in!

    Mind you, with the good come the bad. I keep getting just plain annoyed with CS players who've come across to NS and refuse to change their gameplay. This isn't to say though that everyone who converts is bad; far from it. It's just NS is now starting to be infested with the same aforementioned 9 year old deathmatchers.
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