Personal Thoughts About Same Race Combat

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  • UnderDOGUnderDOG Join Date: 2003-04-05 Member: 15221Members
    for AVA there might have to be maps with more than just 3 hives
  • ForlornForlorn Join Date: 2002-11-01 Member: 2634Banned
    <!--QuoteBegin--Align+Apr 20 2003, 01:40 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Align @ Apr 20 2003, 01:40 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin--Rion+Apr 20 2003, 07:07 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Rion @ Apr 20 2003, 07:07 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> alien versus alien wouldn't be that fun.. melee wars never really are.

    but marine versus marine=gimmeh <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'><!--endemo--> <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Note of concern that sprung up shortly after reading the above post: Skulk rambos easily taking out gorges, even when they have a lifeguard skulk. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Or skulks that will make mincemeat out of hives, alien structures, res nozzles...


    Due to the fact that skulks can get anywhere, and since other skulks can be everwhere 24/7 and offensive chambers will suck at defending against skulks...


    You thought you hated a jp'er who got on your hive? How about a skulk? Lerk? Onos?


    And what the heck will umbra do?

    Aliens will need a huge remodling for AvA to work...

    And I could see MvM working without any changes.
  • relsanrelsan Join Date: 2002-11-01 Member: 3720Members, Constellation
    If I had a choice between a marine vs. marine server, a kharaa vs. kharaa server, or a regular server, i'd pick the regular server. I could see the other choices being interesting at first and I'd try them out of curiousity, but I think the way alien and marine weapons work would make same race combat extremely boring. Why? Well...

    The whole fun of ns is exploiting the advantages you have over your enemy. If you have no real advantages over your enemy then the gameplay degenerates down to simple deathmatch where pure skill reigns supreme. If I was interested in that, I would be playing quake dm, or ut2003.

    And I guess thats my point. There's many other games out there that do deathmatch a lot better than a bastardized ns mod would. If that's what you want, go shell out the money and play one of them. Or don't shell out the money and go play hldm, or cs, or dod, or firearms; the list goes on.
  • HopelessnessHopelessness Join Date: 2002-11-21 Member: 9577Members
    <!--QuoteBegin--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--><!--QuoteBegin--Rion+Apr 20 2003, 07:07 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Rion @ Apr 20 2003, 07:07 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> alien versus alien wouldn't be that fun.. melee wars never really are.

    but marine versus marine=gimmeh <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'><!--endemo--> <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Note of concern that sprung up shortly after reading the above post: Skulk rambos easily taking out gorges, even when they have a lifeguard skulk.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    Yes, I also thought of this. With the mobility and speed of a skulk, just trying to stay alive as a gorge would be a nightmare.
  • VersableVersable Join Date: 2002-11-01 Member: 2375Members
    edited April 2003
    Why are you all saying that MvM will be like cs.

    Lets compare:

    - Both team based: yes
    - Both some game style: not really
    - Same objectives: na
    - Some settings: ehhhh dun think so
    - What about the comm thing: Yeah never seen a comm in cs unless u mean a squad leader
    - And the round based thing: Nope
    - Fight over resources: Maybe its like hostages but then again i never seen somebody moving rt's
    - The annoying radio in italy: I tried to shoot everything but couldnt get rid of the ns background music

    blah

    I think MvM will be just perfect, commanders really can test their skills and c who is better.
    As for AvA, it be like a battle over the hives, or rt's since the new resourse model system in 1.1

    If u dont like AvA, or MvM. What the heck? dont play it then
  • ByekaByeka Name changed from Freak83 Toronto Join Date: 2003-03-13 Member: 14484Members, Constellation
    I personally don't like the idea at all. NS must remain alien vs marine. I haven't heard anything about same race vs same race since 1.1 details have been released so it looks like I'll be happy for a while.
  • fewfew Join Date: 2003-04-02 Member: 15128Members
    im bored, im just playing Halo 'till 1.1 gets out <!--emo&???--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/confused.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='confused.gif'><!--endemo-->
  • Jabba_The_HuntJabba_The_Hunt Join Date: 2003-01-05 Member: 11850Members
    edited April 2003
    Marine vs Marine battles will be great. Mainly as the reliance on capturing 2 hives will be gone. This means you can have a true front line, rather than connected pockets of resistance (yes I know thats what M vs A is supposed to be). Can you imagine having a huge front line, 3 bases all under constant attack, and visa versa. HA/HMG battles, this will be perfectly balanced.

    If we can already make these battles, will a mapper please get around to doing it!!!
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