Heh, I seen that server last night (or the night before? <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif'><!--endemo-->) Goofy rule I agree. Some admins must have had there ***** handed to them that way a few too many times. Mind you, I nonetheless had a good time there as it seemed to be a good group playing at the time. (Assuming there is only ONE server with that rule... but you never really know I suppose...)
to right, who or what do u ban? Admins just love to ban - and silly rules like that is an excuse to go wild <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'><!--endemo-->
however silly the rules may be, it's their server and they can do what they like. No-one else has ANY say on their server.
Same goes for mine. The rules I impose on my server are clearly stated when you join (I don't agree with the above rule, there may be rules you disagree with on my server). If you don't agree to play by the rules of whatever server you join, don't play there.
To put an analogy in, Player joins server. Server rules: Don't cheat, don't give out shotguns. Player cheats. Player is banned. Commander gives a shotgun, commander is banned.
Everyone would agree that the player should have been banned, but many still don't get that the commander *should* have been banned too. It's a stupid rule, I can't imagine anyone playing there, but you can guarantee that someone WILL end up playing there, get banned for giving a shotgun and then complain about it.
Lastly, no-one but the server owner (and admins he/she chooses) has ANY rights at all on a server. Playing on someone's server is a privilege. You don't pay for it, they do. If the server admins unbind everyone's keys, it won't be long before the server is empty. Leaving a server is the best thing you can do in such a circumstance. With no players on their server, the bad admins will be paying out and not getting any games in anyway as no-one is on the server.
Sorry that this post is so incoherent, I'm still recovering from 2 solid days playing 2 player co-op serious sam and serious sam2 with Phoebubba this weekend. <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif'><!--endemo-->
<!--QuoteBegin--homerx+May 27 2003, 08:20 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (homerx @ May 27 2003, 08:20 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> ive been in a server (i wont say the name) that has this rule: "NO JP/HMG BEFORE 2ND HIVE IS UP"
marine1: do you have 2 hives yet?
gorge: nope not yet
gorge_teamtalk: rofl get ready to fade/onos everyone <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> Hey you play at drunken Natural selection then right? That rule was the result of a combination of the admins lack of patience for the 1.1 Jp changes to come out, along with his anger with getting Jp rushed in the Viaduct before the Kharaa could defend themselves.
The other reason is so that maps such as misslecommand and ninja fall are more fun to play.
There are many servers on the internet and no one is forcing you to play on any particular one. If you don't like a servers rules then simply don't play there.
for example:
We have a policy of no swearing/racist remarks etc over the voicecomm or in say messages. Part (but certainly not all) of the reason is because we have a community with older players and many have young children within earshot of their computer.
Ppl argue that it is an "adult" game or M rated and they should be able to swear if they want to. Well the point is. It's our server, we don't want the swearing and a lot of our regulars play there because they know that they don't have to worry about their kids hearing a bunch of foul-mouthed twits carrying on because they don't like the way someone is commanding or gorging or whatever.
My comment is simple. You don't have to like the rules... you just have to play by them. If you don't... find another server to play on!
Admittedly some servers have dumb rules and ban happy admins. Not all servers are good, and not all servers will fit your particular play style. But it just comes back to disconnecting and finding a new server. Argueing with the admins about whether a rule is good or bad can quite often just make your decision to not play on that server much easier. <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'><!--endemo-->
<!--QuoteBegin--Candy Man+May 27 2003, 08:40 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Candy Man @ May 27 2003, 08:40 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Yeah other night I was G.I.Joehosaphats ... <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> When you join that server it says "This server is for the enjoyment of the admins. Understand that."
One time on some other server, the aliens had all 3 hives and after destroying half the marine base they ran away. The admin then slays the whole alien team for "not ending the game when they so blatantly could have." Great stuff.
And how about this rule: "marines building in hives? Banned!"
well my question is if the Aliens get a second hive then the Marines get JPs and HMGs and kill a hive do the Marines have to stop using HMGs and JPs since the Aliens now only have 1 hive. LOL
<!--QuoteBegin--homerx+May 27 2003, 08:51 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (homerx @ May 27 2003, 08:51 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> just now i played in this server (name not mentioned again) in which that "offensive mines" AND "mine rushes" are both bannable offenses... LMAO.. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> I can understand that they probably don't want the server to be crashes by mine spamming.
How about this one you guys,I forget the server but it says "Don't build a tf in yer base at the start of the game." Now what kind of underminded admin would put such a rule on?yes that's true it's their server ya play by their rules or leave or get banned,now I don't agree with getting banned if a new player comes and hands out shotguns I guess the new player should be warned or asked if he/she read the rules before joining.Now I don't mind getting kicked but if I came back and did it again then i would see the need to get banned. Here's another thing banning alittle harsh for some little thing,but banning should be the last resort for big people such as cheaters etc.
One simple rule of NS
Marines destroy all aliens and hives before they destroy you
Aliens destroy all marines and ip's and command chairs before marines destroy you.
And why do some admins consider such things/tactics lame etc and bannable? bannable alittle harsh to me. maybe a rule but kinda dumb if NS is supposed to encourage that kind of stuff. yes I have to agree with the one guy there if such rules are made and ya keep banning everyone in sight it's a very good way to lose players and perhaps even having to shut the server down which any admin/server owner wouldn't want.
One Solution :change the rule but keep the ban offense to the cheater lol
have a nice day <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif'><!--endemo-->
<!--QuoteBegin--homerx+May 27 2003, 09:45 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (homerx @ May 27 2003, 09:45 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> [RUA]ewok, i highly doubt that.. 20 mines will NOT crash the server... <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> Well yes but I can see how some admins might be afraid a COMM will go crazy and drop 100 mines, I've seen that before many times. I'm not defending the person but just saying that might have been the reason.
Hmm. "It is my server and I can do whatever I like". True. But...
<!--QuoteBegin--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->Lastly, no-one but the server owner (and admins he/she chooses) has ANY rights at all on a server. Playing on someone's server is a privilege. You don't pay for it, they do. If the server admins unbind everyone's keys, it won't be long before the server is empty.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
True. The players don't have any rights on the server. However if the admin believes he doesn't have any RESPONSIBILITY, he is very wrong. Especially if he thinks he can unbind everyone's keys, which can be counted as sabotage against foreign property (punishable by fine).
<!--QuoteBegin--lolfighter+May 27 2003, 12:03 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (lolfighter @ May 27 2003, 12:03 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> True. The players don't have any rights on the server. However if the admin believes he doesn't have any RESPONSIBILITY, he is very wrong. Especially if he thinks he can unbind everyone's keys, which can be counted as sabotage against foreign property (punishable by fine). <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> Then again, most servers have info on their startup line or whatever, when you join you agree to allow them to run commands on your computer... <!--emo&;)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/wink.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wink.gif'><!--endemo-->
<!--QuoteBegin--Roobubba+May 27 2003, 08:00 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Roobubba @ May 27 2003, 08:00 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> however silly the rules may be, it's their server and they can do what they like. No-one else has ANY say on their server.
Same goes for mine.
<i>Bla bla bla yackety-shmackety-bla bla. <!--emo&;)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/wink.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wink.gif'><!--endemo--></i> <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> Yeah - we understand that. But nobody has complained that servers shouldn't impose whatever they like, and no-one claims that we shouldn't follow their rules. We just mean that some of these rules seem ridiculous. We want to discuss these silly rules - not rebel against admins by going to their servers and breaking their rules.
The no jp+hmg rule before second hive is there because of jpers who abuse the fps fuel rate and constantly just hover around the hive shooting it. drunken_panda added that rule because one too many times all the marines did was jp rush and end the game right there. Now they are forced to ha/hmg rush or come up with other strategies. It is his server and he can do as he likes, if you don't like it don't connect plain and simple. If you **** about the rule ingame you get banned no questions asked from both joe.to ns servers. We provide you the ability to play ns on the internet on our servers and if your going to play there respect us or leave. If I could get a plugin that blocked jp+hmg before second hive I'de get it just to enforce this rule. In 1.1 the rule will most likely be taken off because of the jp changes and various other changes so until then deal with it. *edit* And yes if the second alien hive dies jp marines must drop their hmgs. Comm should of course scan the other hives to make sure another one doesn't go up.
Just to clarify, FOR THE PEOPLE POSTING ABOUT SERVER JUSTICE AND HOW THE ADMINS HAVE RIGHTS TO DO WHAT THEY WANT, STOP POSTING! WE ALREADY KNOW THIS! You are doing nothing but bringing your post count up. <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif'><!--endemo-->
Back on topic though, this one server i played on one time said noone on the alien team could gorge untill everyone on the alien team had 29 res.
<!--QuoteBegin--Cabal+May 27 2003, 08:54 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Cabal @ May 27 2003, 08:54 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin--Candy Man+May 27 2003, 08:40 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Candy Man @ May 27 2003, 08:40 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Yeah other night I was G.I.Joehosaphats ... <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> When you join that server it says "This server is for the enjoyment of the admins. Understand that."
One time on some other server, the aliens had all 3 hives and after destroying half the marine base they ran away. The admin then slays the whole alien team for "not ending the game when they so blatantly could have." Great stuff.
And how about this rule: "marines building in hives? Banned!" <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> I can side with the admin for slaying that entire team. That is crap of them to do... Or if Marines come and knock down one hive and could hurry up and end it but instead lock it down and tech up every damned upgrade 4 hour game....
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I pretty much hate most of those rulez :/
the most annoying I find the one on redphive.org, where there is only one gorge allowed per hive, very annoying...
atleast make it 2 per hive! I mean the gorges can suck the res out of their teammates so there is no res problem...
now the aliens were like, "0mg!! tehy used jp/hmg befoer we got teh second hive up!!@!!!@!"
and the admins (who were aliens at the time) said, "does the whole marine team wanna get banned?"
ROFLMAO.
Same goes for mine. The rules I impose on my server are clearly stated when you join (I don't agree with the above rule, there may be rules you disagree with on my server). If you don't agree to play by the rules of whatever server you join, don't play there.
To put an analogy in, Player joins server. Server rules: Don't cheat, don't give out shotguns. Player cheats. Player is banned. Commander gives a shotgun, commander is banned.
Everyone would agree that the player should have been banned, but many still don't get that the commander *should* have been banned too. It's a stupid rule, I can't imagine anyone playing there, but you can guarantee that someone WILL end up playing there, get banned for giving a shotgun and then complain about it.
Lastly, no-one but the server owner (and admins he/she chooses) has ANY rights at all on a server. Playing on someone's server is a privilege. You don't pay for it, they do. If the server admins unbind everyone's keys, it won't be long before the server is empty. Leaving a server is the best thing you can do in such a circumstance. With no players on their server, the bad admins will be paying out and not getting any games in anyway as no-one is on the server.
Sorry that this post is so incoherent, I'm still recovering from 2 solid days playing 2 player co-op serious sam and serious sam2 with Phoebubba this weekend. <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif'><!--endemo-->
marine1: do you have 2 hives yet?
gorge: nope not yet
gorge_teamtalk: rofl get ready to fade/onos everyone <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
Hey you play at drunken Natural selection then right? That rule was the result of a combination of the admins lack of patience for the 1.1 Jp changes to come out, along with his anger with getting Jp rushed in the Viaduct before the Kharaa could defend themselves.
The other reason is so that maps such as misslecommand and ninja fall are more fun to play.
There are many servers on the internet and no one is forcing you to play on any particular one. If you don't like a servers rules then simply don't play there.
for example:
We have a policy of no swearing/racist remarks etc over the voicecomm or in say messages. Part (but certainly not all) of the reason is because we have a community with older players and many have young children within earshot of their computer.
Ppl argue that it is an "adult" game or M rated and they should be able to swear if they want to. Well the point is. It's our server, we don't want the swearing and a lot of our regulars play there because they know that they don't have to worry about their kids hearing a bunch of foul-mouthed twits carrying on because they don't like the way someone is commanding or gorging or whatever.
My comment is simple. You don't have to like the rules... you just have to play by them. If you don't... find another server to play on!
Admittedly some servers have dumb rules and ban happy admins. Not all servers are good, and not all servers will fit your particular play style. But it just comes back to disconnecting and finding a new server. Argueing with the admins about whether a rule is good or bad can quite often just make your decision to not play on that server much easier. <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'><!--endemo-->
lol @ stupid server admins
WE ARE NOT BITCHING/WHINING ABOUT ANY PARTICULAR SERVER, this thread is just for and about the funny/stupid rules that the admins make...
back to the topic:
just now i played in this server (name not mentioned again) in which that "offensive mines" AND "mine rushes" are both bannable offenses... LMAO..
When you join that server it says "This server is for the enjoyment of the admins. Understand that."
<!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif'><!--endemo-->
One time on some other server, the aliens had all 3 hives and after destroying half the marine base they ran away. The admin then slays the whole alien team for "not ending the game when they so blatantly could have." Great stuff.
And how about this rule: "marines building in hives? Banned!"
I can understand that they probably don't want the server to be crashes by mine spamming.
How about this one you guys,I forget the server but it says "Don't build a tf in yer base at the start of the game." Now what kind of underminded admin would put such a rule on?yes that's true it's their server ya play by their rules or leave or get banned,now I don't agree with getting banned if a new player comes and hands out shotguns I guess the new player should be warned or asked if he/she read the rules before joining.Now I don't mind getting kicked but if I came back and did it again then i would see the need to get banned.
Here's another thing banning alittle harsh for some little thing,but banning should be the last resort for big people such as cheaters etc.
One simple rule of NS
Marines destroy all aliens and hives before they destroy you
Aliens destroy all marines and ip's and command chairs before marines destroy you.
And why do some admins consider such things/tactics lame etc and bannable? bannable alittle harsh to me. maybe a rule but kinda dumb if NS is supposed to encourage that kind of stuff.
yes I have to agree with the one guy there if such rules are made and ya keep banning everyone in sight it's a very good way to lose players and perhaps even having to shut the server down which any admin/server owner wouldn't want.
One Solution :change the rule but keep the ban offense to the cheater lol
have a nice day <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif'><!--endemo-->
well guys I guess Some of the admins have been dropped on their heads when they were babies rofl
The most stupid rule ive seen so far is:
"No n00bs"
Think about it...
Well yes but I can see how some admins might be afraid a COMM will go crazy and drop 100 mines, I've seen that before many times. I'm not defending the person but just saying that might have been the reason.
lol, almost got banned because it wasn't listed on the consgreet, just on the server's site.
<!--QuoteBegin--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->Lastly, no-one but the server owner (and admins he/she chooses) has ANY rights at all on a server. Playing on someone's server is a privilege. You don't pay for it, they do. If the server admins unbind everyone's keys, it won't be long before the server is empty.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
True. The players don't have any rights on the server. However if the admin believes he doesn't have any RESPONSIBILITY, he is very wrong. Especially if he thinks he can unbind everyone's keys, which can be counted as sabotage against foreign property (punishable by fine).
Then again, most servers have info on their startup line or whatever, when you join you agree to allow them to run commands on your computer... <!--emo&;)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/wink.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wink.gif'><!--endemo-->
Same goes for mine.
<i>Bla bla bla yackety-shmackety-bla bla. <!--emo&;)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/wink.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wink.gif'><!--endemo--></i> <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
Yeah - we understand that. But nobody has complained that servers shouldn't impose whatever they like, and no-one claims that we shouldn't follow their rules. We just mean that some of these rules seem ridiculous. We want to discuss these silly rules - not rebel against admins by going to their servers and breaking their rules.
*edit* And yes if the second alien hive dies jp marines must drop their hmgs. Comm should of course scan the other hives to make sure another one doesn't go up.
Weren't you complaining earlier in a different post about how nobody plays at your server?
Maybe that's why.
Back on topic though, this one server i played on one time said noone on the alien team could gorge untill everyone on the alien team had 29 res.
....++
When you join that server it says "This server is for the enjoyment of the admins. Understand that."
<!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif'><!--endemo-->
One time on some other server, the aliens had all 3 hives and after destroying half the marine base they ran away. The admin then slays the whole alien team for "not ending the game when they so blatantly could have." Great stuff.
And how about this rule: "marines building in hives? Banned!" <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
I can side with the admin for slaying that entire team. That is crap of them to do... Or if Marines come and knock down one hive and could hurry up and end it but instead lock it down and tech up every damned upgrade 4 hour game....
But the second thing, I can't side with that.