The Revolution - Transparency In Models.

Delarosa · May 2003

</span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (H4nD!C4P*d @ May 10 2003, 09:20 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> noone ever answered m question as to which rifle model that was on the custom marine. Is it available or is that a wip too?  </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> 
everything souris posts, is a WIP

Delarosa · May 2003

</span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (NecromanZer @ May 10 2003, 07:42 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> Did anyone stop to wonder why the DoD team actually bothered to implement this?
 </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> 
1. Valve is testing the reverse compatabillity of the new systems...
2. Valve is cutting the polygons on the models, thus increaseing the fps and compatabillity of DoD
3. they decided to give us a cookie for sitting patientally for HL2?

Maus · May 2003

As people probably already suspected, it seems to work best for subtle effects.

Also included here is a very curious bug I found, where it applied my transparent texture to the whole model. It was in the freeze just before map change though, so it's probably something that would fix itself if it was allowed to.

Infinitum · May 2003

That head reminds me of the Ingram from Patlabor.....

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Maus · May 2003

Well ... I was stuck for ideas with how to do his helmet, and I always thought the Patlabor stuff looked neat ...

I guess you've found me out <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif'>

Infinitum · May 2003

Patlabor is probably in my all time Top 5 anime series, so I gotta love the helmet design.

Few anime references get by me ;o

I always wanted an Ingram custom model for NS.... but because I'm a firm believer in original material I can't really request it.

For those who are gonna call me a hypocrite. My wanting of the Ingram model is in the same context of a 20 million dollar mansion.
I want it, but I know it's not gonna happen.

Wolf_Kahler · May 2003

Three things:

The welding torch is from AvP2, just so we're clear on who made it in case anyone had forgotten.

The additive transparency probably doesn't work right yet because it's not a proper HL update. This is only a little bit thrown in until HL is updated, which will be shortly. Possibly as a test, maybe not. Maybe it'll be fixed, maybe it won't.

The glitch where the transparency was on the whole model is probably because the NS code calls on DLL ellements that may have been slightly tweaked in these new DLL's. In otherwords: it's just a glitch. Don't worry about it.

Hell, in ToD, sometimes your teammates spawn with enemy skins, so you think you have to shoot them, which gets awkward on FF servers. Compared to that, the transparency glitches are minimal. I love what you're doing with them, though. Good job. Too bad that laser thing on the head didn't turn out how you expected. That will look SO cool in a mod when it's implemented properly [next NS update, anyone?].

Anyway, just got pointed here from the DoD forums. Seeya.

Sylver · May 2003

This new transparency makes me wanna have cloaked predator models ... but that would suck when I'm on the other team <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif'>

DocterJ · May 2003

This could really revolutionize the models... But i think it should just be used subtly in details. Too much kills it.

-Drake- · May 2003

naaa i didnt really like patlabour i prafer Neon Genesis Evangelion

i think the mechs look sweeter
and more human like

NightCrawlerz · May 2003

stop talking about off topic stuff in this thread please. if you want to talk about cartoons then do it in the correct forum AKA- OFF TOPIC FORUM

Maus · May 2003

Shame the discussions forum is closed. Then I could direct you and your flame spam to the "correct" forum too.

Tip: SHOUTING LIEK THIS MAKES YUO LOOK LIKE A MUPPET.

Commander · May 2003

The coolest thing you could do with this is to allow you to see through the scope of a sniper rifle.

Maus · June 2003

I've been unable to get masked transparncy working in v_models so far (but it's definitely possible, since DoD has weapons that use it), but when I was experimenting I switched the texture mode to additive just to check that things were at least slightly working. Here's the result:

Ness · June 2003

This is some exciting stuff for the half-life community, and I honestly can't wait to see how people screw around with this.

RoyGBiv · June 2003

maus does it light up entities through it?

Maus · June 2003

For some reason v_models work perfectly with transparencies - no entities show through. Also, I did a little bit of testing (dropped a DoD v_model into NS) which proved to me that there's just something wrong with my masked version of that texture, and not with NS's handling of transparencies.

Akalamanaia · June 2003

is predator hud now a possibility? <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif'>.Now we could make their targeting laser,shoulder cannon bolts,the cloak to with good looking textures(predator bends light near him with that cloaking machine).So it would work with additive textures,even it would render objects behind him <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif'> .

sheena_yanai · June 2003

</span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Destroyder121 @ Jun 12 2003, 02:33 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> (predator bends light near him with that cloaking machine).So it would work with additive textures,even it would render objects behind him <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif'> .  </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> 
nope,not possible... and for the cloaking u dont need the dll?s additive transparency would do the same as the hardcoded transparency and what tha **** is the deal with a predator in ns? its not even a logical reason for a predator gestating out of an alien egg...
omg.. i have to puke <img src='http://www.click-smilie.de/sammlung/wuerg/vomit-smiley-015.gif' border='0' alt='user posted image'>

Akalamanaia · June 2003

</span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (sheena yanai @ Jun 12 2003, 03:31 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> </span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Destroyder121 @ Jun 12 2003, 02:33 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> (predator bends light near him with that cloaking machine).So it would work with additive textures,even it would render objects behind him <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif'> . </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'>
nope,not possible... and for the cloaking u dont need the dll?s additive transparency would do the same as the hardcoded transparency and what tha **** is the deal with a predator in ns? its not even a logical reason for a predator gestating out of an alien egg...
omg.. i have to puke <img src='http://www.click-smilie.de/sammlung/wuerg/vomit-smiley-015.gif' border='0' alt='user posted image'>  </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> 
i thought him as replacement for marine sheena...you silly *hugs sheena and says "peek a boo!catch me!"*.

sheena_yanai · June 2003

haha.. gotcha!

thats much whorser

how should the marine cloak???
he would be invisible(nearly) all the time

i want to see my team

Sylver · June 2003

</span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (sheena yanai @ Jun 12 2003, 05:34 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> i want to see my team  </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> 
even more, i'd like to see the marines when i'm alien!

Darxide21 · June 2003

</span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (sheena yanai @ Jun 12 2003, 03:31 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> </span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Destroyder121 @ Jun 12 2003, 02:33 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> (predator bends light near him with that cloaking machine).So it would work with additive textures,even it would render objects behind him <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif'> . </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'>
nope,not possible... and for the cloaking u dont need the dll?s additive transparency would do the same as the hardcoded transparency and what tha **** is the deal with a predator in ns? its not even a logical reason for a predator gestating out of an alien egg...
omg.. i have to puke <img src='http://www.click-smilie.de/sammlung/wuerg/vomit-smiley-015.gif' border='0' alt='user posted image'>  </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> 
But I just realized that predator for fit perfectly as a fade.
-Stands upright
-Convert the slash to a punch with his hand claw.
-Acid rocket could be his should mounted energy thing

It would r0xerz.

sheena_yanai · June 2003

</span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Darxide21 @ Jun 12 2003, 11:59 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> </span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (sheena yanai @ Jun 12 2003, 03:31 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> </span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Destroyder121 @ Jun 12 2003, 02:33 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> (predator bends light near him with that cloaking machine).So it would work with additive textures,even it would render objects behind him <img src='http://www.natural-selection.org/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif'> . </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'>
nope,not possible... and for the cloaking u dont need the dll´s additive transparency would do the same as the hardcoded transparency and what tha **** is the deal with a predator in ns? its not even a logical reason for a predator gestating out of an alien egg...
omg.. i have to puke <img src='http://www.click-smilie.de/sammlung/wuerg/vomit-smiley-015.gif' border='0' alt='user posted image'> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'>
But I just realized that predator for fit perfectly as a fade.
-Stands upright
-Convert the slash to a punch with his hand claw.
-Acid rocket could be his should mounted energy thing

It would r0xerz.  </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> 
yeah.. and hes hatchin out of a alien egg...and fights with the aliens.. fits perfectly...

advion · June 2003

make the egg a giant cube with fancy lights and squigly things on the outside.

Akalamanaia · June 2003

</span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (sheena yanai @ Jun 12 2003, 08:56 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> </span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Darxide21 @ Jun 12 2003, 11:59 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> </span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (sheena yanai @ Jun 12 2003, 03:31 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> </span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Destroyder121 @ Jun 12 2003, 02:33 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> (predator bends light near him with that cloaking machine).So it would work with additive textures,even it would render objects behind him <img src='http://www.natural-selection.org/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif'> . </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'>
nope,not possible... and for the cloaking u dont need the dll´s additive transparency would do the same as the hardcoded transparency and what tha **** is the deal with a predator in ns? its not even a logical reason for a predator gestating out of an alien egg...
omg.. i have to puke <img src='http://www.click-smilie.de/sammlung/wuerg/vomit-smiley-015.gif' border='0' alt='user posted image'> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'>
But I just realized that predator for fit perfectly as a fade.
-Stands upright
-Convert the slash to a punch with his hand claw.
-Acid rocket could be his should mounted energy thing

It would r0xerz. </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'>
yeah.. and hes hatchin out of a alien egg...and fights with the aliens.. fits perfectly...  </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> 
kic'te!stop saying about that because its a minor thing.

Fina · June 2003

</span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Destroyder121 @ Jun 13 2003, 02:01 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> </span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (sheena yanai @ Jun 12 2003, 08:56 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> </span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Darxide21 @ Jun 12 2003, 11:59 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> </span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (sheena yanai @ Jun 12 2003, 03:31 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> </span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Destroyder121 @ Jun 12 2003, 02:33 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> (predator bends light near him with that cloaking machine).So it would work with additive textures,even it would render objects behind him <img src='http://www.natural-selection.org/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif'> . </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'>
nope,not possible... and for the cloaking u dont need the dll´s additive transparency would do the same as the hardcoded transparency and what tha **** is the deal with a predator in ns? its not even a logical reason for a predator gestating out of an alien egg...
omg.. i have to puke <img src='http://www.click-smilie.de/sammlung/wuerg/vomit-smiley-015.gif' border='0' alt='user posted image'> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'>
But I just realized that predator for fit perfectly as a fade.
-Stands upright
-Convert the slash to a punch with his hand claw.
-Acid rocket could be his should mounted energy thing

It would r0xerz. </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'>
yeah.. and hes hatchin out of a alien egg...and fights with the aliens.. fits perfectly... </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'>
kic'te!stop saying about that because its a minor thing. </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'>
We all know it's because another Predator had an affair with the Hive.

"No! You can't have her! I love her!"

Akalamanaia · June 2003

and by the way we dont know predators reproductive system.

sheena_yanai · June 2003

cmon.. we know that adult predators wont hatch out of xenomorph alien eggs...

Akalamanaia · June 2003

</span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (sheena yanai @ Jun 13 2003, 06:26 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> cmon.. we know that adult predators wont hatch out of xenomorph alien eggs...  </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> 
are kharaa Kainde Amendha?NO doh.

The Revolution - Transparency In Models.

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