Stop Taking My Music

Vincent_CristofVincent_Cristof Join Date: 2003-07-07 Member: 18019Members
okay..due to people taking the music i DIDNT want them to take off the FTP...i've deleted all music of of it...i only sent Alien's Reign out and that one ONLY...not my whole directory....now **** off

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  • StoneburgStoneburg Join Date: 2002-11-11 Member: 8174Members
    edited July 2003
    Ok.. thanks for sharing.

    (pun intended)



    edit: Oh, and just to make sure. You DO realise that this is a public forum and discussing warez is more then likely to get you locked/banned?
  • CreepieCreepie Join Date: 2003-02-19 Member: 13734Members
    Um - no flame intended - if you don't want to people to access your stuff on the ftp, don't put it on the ftp.

    [Cult]Creep.
  • Vincent_CristofVincent_Cristof Join Date: 2003-07-07 Member: 18019Members
    edited July 2003
    this isnt warez..this is music..MY music! MY demos! ALL MINE! I made em. blood sweat and tears from my hands, i've created.

    i sent a link to ONE song...not all of em. i didnt think people would go through the directories for my music. so now i've deleted them all from my directory
  • StoneburgStoneburg Join Date: 2002-11-11 Member: 8174Members
    If you don't want them to take them, don't give access to it.


    ^^^^^

    Too obvious?
  • ShockehShockeh If a packet drops on the web and nobody's near to see it... Join Date: 2002-11-19 Member: 9336NS1 Playtester, Forum Moderators, Constellation
    <!--QuoteBegin--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->i sent a link to ONE song...not all of em. i didnt think people would go through the directories for my music. so now i've deleted them all from my directory
    <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    Welcome to the Internet. Most average users who would be part of a game community will know how linking vaguely works, and will rummage through the associated directories if they can get access.

    And as we say at work, the security of your network is <b>your</b> problem.
  • AsranielAsraniel Join Date: 2002-06-03 Member: 724Members, Playtest Lead, Forum Moderators, NS2 Playtester, Squad Five Blue, Reinforced - Shadow, WC 2013 - Shadow, Subnautica Playtester, Retired Community Developer
    lol............. i mean... its realy your fault

    but when someone has them, could i get them? i loved that alien song and i would like to have more...
  • Vincent_CristofVincent_Cristof Join Date: 2003-07-07 Member: 18019Members
    im gonna have to host them now anyway...put a copyright label on it...well its alreadry copyrighted stuff..i just gotta let them nknow it now.\

    and did i go out putting the blame on anyone? no...
  • criticaIcriticaI Join Date: 2003-04-07 Member: 15269Banned, Constellation
    Don't be such an un-happy person. I listened to the one song and didn't like it much so I didn't rummage through your directories. Happy?

    Heh, you should be happy that people went looking for music. Means they found something to heal their mind... I'm not saying everybody should work for free or anything (It'd never work), but the concept of generosity still exists.
  • Vincent_CristofVincent_Cristof Join Date: 2003-07-07 Member: 18019Members
    i've had plans to make a website so i could put up my music for free for months now...now i have to do it..and now
  • TechenTechen Join Date: 2003-05-15 Member: 16340Members, Constellation
    I feel for you. I have an open FTP server as well. The thing is people will want to see what you "have". Depending on the software you run it shouldn't be too hard to put a password on the server or maybe make a directory just for the stuff you want people to have access to.

    Getting angery at a bunch of people that enjoy your work and who had unrestricted access to your server dosn't make anything better. They wouldn't be looking into your stuff if they didn't enjoy it. If anything its a compliment.

    PS: Whats your ftp server IP. I want to check your stuff out. <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'><!--endemo--> (Thats a joke..)
  • Vincent_CristofVincent_Cristof Join Date: 2003-07-07 Member: 18019Members
    i dont mean to be ..well mean...i love that YOU PPL love my music...but really...i only meant ONE song to go out. and when i see ppl prying into my folder getting what i didnt want them to have, i freak and get defensive..but can you blame me? those are my creations. mine. i actually CREATED those. if someone is grabbing one of YOUR creations without asking what would you do? say "bah wahtever?" WRONG! you woulda done and said the same.
  • Nemesis_ZeroNemesis_Zero Old European Join Date: 2002-01-25 Member: 75Members, Retired Developer, NS1 Playtester, Constellation
    Seeing that this has realtively little to do with the game Natural Selection...

    <span style='color:white'>***Moved.***</span>
  • Vincent_CristofVincent_Cristof Join Date: 2003-07-07 Member: 18019Members
    do what ya want...whats done is done...my songs wil be posted elsewhere when im ready
  • esunaesuna Rock Bottom Join Date: 2003-04-03 Member: 15175Members, Constellation
    <!--QuoteBegin--Vincent_Cristof+Jul 10 2003, 07:17 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Vincent_Cristof @ Jul 10 2003, 07:17 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> i dont mean to be ..well mean...i love that YOU PPL love my music...but really...i only meant ONE song to go out. and when i see ppl prying into my folder getting what i didnt want them to have, i freak and get defensive..but can you blame me? those are my creations. mine. i actually CREATED those. if someone is grabbing one of YOUR creations without asking what would you do? say "bah wahtever?" WRONG! you woulda done and said the same. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Well i'm in 3 bands, have 2 cd singles in distribution and have an abundance of mp3s up on my website and webserver. To be honest, i couldn't care if people downloaded stuff from my server that i've not officially released, as long as it's not pirated from one of my cds, the more people that listen the better.

    If i were you, i'd shut up whining and be glad that people actually spared the curiosity to go searching for more of your music.

    And stop the "i'm an artist and so hard done by" routine, you'll only end up looking arrogant and pretentious.
  • CForresterCForrester P0rk(h0p Join Date: 2002-10-05 Member: 1439Members, Constellation
    I think he's more angry that the people didn't ASK if they could have it. It's like... You make a cake for someone, they come along and see it's on the counter cooling, and grab it without telling you. Later, you go to get it and it's not there, but you catch them with it, eating it. It was for them anyway, but the fact that they went behind your back and stole it anyway bugs you. He was GOING to give us the music anyway, but we took it without permission. How do we know he didn't have it up there for Flayra to listen to, to see if he'll allow him to do music for the NS trailer? Don't say "Well, he should have passlocked the directory, then." He's a human. There is no human that has never made a mistake. You cannot deny that.

    Also, Alien's Reign totally owns. <!--emo&;)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/wink.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wink.gif'><!--endemo--> I love it, it's made my playlist.
  • esunaesuna Rock Bottom Join Date: 2003-04-03 Member: 15175Members, Constellation
    edited July 2003
    <!--QuoteBegin--CForrester+Jul 10 2003, 08:01 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (CForrester @ Jul 10 2003, 08:01 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> I think he's more angry that the people didn't ASK if they could have it. It's like... You make a cake for someone, they come along and see it's on the counter cooling, and grab it without telling you. Later, you go to get it and it's not there, but you catch them with it, eating it. It was for them anyway, but the fact that they went behind your back and stole it anyway bugs you. He was GOING to give us the music anyway, but we took it without permission. How do we know he didn't have it up there for Flayra to listen to, to see if he'll allow him to do music for the NS trailer? Don't say "Well, he should have passlocked the directory, then." He's a human. There is no human that has never made a mistake. You cannot deny that.

    Also, Alien's Reign totally owns. <!--emo&;)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/wink.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wink.gif'><!--endemo--> I love it, it's made my playlist. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    To use your analogy of a caek, i think you're wrong.

    It's like having an infinate caek (which will never run out, obviously) and offering people a slice. Once they have a slice, they want more, and the caek being infinate, it's still in existance after everyone's taken as much as they want.

    And i dunno about anyone else, but you can't view any of the directory trees on my webserver, it's good practice not to allow people to snoop, not blocking it is kinda like forgetting to put clothes on when you go out.

    The simple fact it comes down to is, and you can deny it all you like, that he didn't want the other tracks being distributed, but if he made no attempt to secure said files, it's his fault and nobody is to blame if they download them but himself.

    <span style='color:white'>[edit]</span>I might add, ontop of all this, the "mp3s" folder (which is now pretty much empty) is +still+ viewable by the public.<span style='color:white'>[/edit]

    The edit button is your friend.</span>
  • CForresterCForrester P0rk(h0p Join Date: 2002-10-05 Member: 1439Members, Constellation
  • esunaesuna Rock Bottom Join Date: 2003-04-03 Member: 15175Members, Constellation
    <!--QuoteBegin--CForrester+Jul 10 2003, 08:25 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (CForrester @ Jul 10 2003, 08:25 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> I like cake... <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    EVERYONE likes caek.
  • Vincent_CristofVincent_Cristof Join Date: 2003-07-07 Member: 18019Members
    edited July 2003
    i didnt know ppl could go through the mp3 folder until someone mentined it after i posted Alien's Reign on the forums. and im mostly worried about ppl trying to STEAL my music and call it their own or even selling it without me getting any part of the profits. even tho (and i've said this amny times, i know) my music is copyrighted, i still want everything to remain official.

    not everyone knows everything everyone else knows...assuming so makes you an ****
  • esunaesuna Rock Bottom Join Date: 2003-04-03 Member: 15175Members, Constellation
    <!--QuoteBegin--Vincent_Cristof+Jul 10 2003, 08:35 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Vincent_Cristof @ Jul 10 2003, 08:35 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> i didnt know ppl could go through the mp3 folder until someone mentined it after i posted Alien's Reign on the forums. and im mostly worried about ppl trying to STEAL my music and call it their own or even selling it without me getting any part of the profits. even tho (and i've said this amny times, i know) my music is copyrighted, i still want everything to remain official.

    not everyone knows everything everyone else knows...assuming so makes you an **** <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    If you don't want people to steal or rip-off your music, don't release it, don't let anyone hear it, cause that's the only way you'll ever stop it.

    I just presumed, that since you seem well versed in things such as copyright, that you would know about keeping your music safe and not letting people you don't want to get a hold of it.
  • Vincent_CristofVincent_Cristof Join Date: 2003-07-07 Member: 18019Members
    im not good with networking and file sharing...and for the last time i only meant to release ONE song which was posted on the forums. as for the rest i have to say i'll refer you to my last post.
  • Speed_2_DaveSpeed_2_Dave Join Date: 2002-11-15 Member: 8788Members
    <!--QuoteBegin--Vincent_Cristof+Jul 10 2003, 08:40 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Vincent_Cristof @ Jul 10 2003, 08:40 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> im not good with networking and file sharing...and for the last time i only meant to release ONE song which was posted on the forums. as for the rest i have to say i'll refer you to my last post. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Next time you know better. Let a friend with more networking experience either talk you through it (Monse if he has enough free time, which he shouldn't, PR blitz, baby!), or have someone else do the hosting, which is what you said you were going to do now anyway. So, erm, I really think this thread is beating a dead horse.

    Subscribing to the whole "Steal the Internet" policy that has grown with the existence of file-sharing applications such as Napster, Morpheus, and Kazaa; Anything you put on the Internet for them to see but don't want them to doesn't make them evil for seeing and taking it, it makes you careless. Try punishing a puppy for stealing your dinner which you set on the ground. [/bad analogies] They don't know better, no matter what Dubya or the Government, or lawyers say.
  • esunaesuna Rock Bottom Join Date: 2003-04-03 Member: 15175Members, Constellation
    One recommendation for the future, Vincent, in a directory you don't want people viewing, a quick hack for this really (without editing server properties etc) is put a completely blank index.html in each directory. Now each time someone tries to view the root of, lets say, /mp3s/ they will see the blank index.html page, as opposed to the directory tree.
  • Vincent_CristofVincent_Cristof Join Date: 2003-07-07 Member: 18019Members
    .....i'll just go on to what i was doing and find a host for my msuic...i shouldnt of posted anyways...save me the irritation of getting by bombardments of "blame yourself, stupid ****" comments. i never blamed anyone...i was angry at ppl taking my stuff without asking but i didnt blame them. so spare me.

    (the thread should die after this post..if it doesnt and you're still trying to prove something to me you got real problems)
  • AllUrHiveRblong2usAllUrHiveRblong2us By Your Powers Combined... Join Date: 2002-12-20 Member: 11244Members
    edited July 2003
    He don't know these fowums vewwy well, do he?
  • esunaesuna Rock Bottom Join Date: 2003-04-03 Member: 15175Members, Constellation
    <!--QuoteBegin--Vincent_Cristof+Jul 10 2003, 08:57 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Vincent_Cristof @ Jul 10 2003, 08:57 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> .....i'll just go on to what i was doing and find a host for my msuic...i shouldnt of posted anyways...save me the irritation of getting by bombardments of "blame yourself, stupid ****" comments. i never blamed anyone...i was angry at ppl taking my stuff without asking but i didnt blame them. so spare me.

    (the thread should die after this post..if it doesnt and you're still trying to prove something to me you got real problems) <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    By not accepting responsibility for other people "stealing" your music, you're essentially blaming this entire board and community. Congratulations.

    I've offered a quick fix to your problem (posted above) and you've not even expressed any such gratitute for my troubles, or even acknowledged i offered help. This is insulting.

    And never expect a thread to die, just because you say it should.

    And i don't have a single problem in the world, i'm extremely content and happy.
  • XzilenXzilen Join Date: 2002-12-30 Member: 11642Members, Constellation
    Okay, well this seems pointless...
  • MoquiaoMoquiao Join Date: 2003-05-09 Member: 16168Members
    <!--QuoteBegin--Vincent_Cristof+Jul 10 2003, 01:17 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Vincent_Cristof @ Jul 10 2003, 01:17 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> i dont mean to be ..well mean...i love that YOU PPL love my music...but really...i only meant ONE song to go out. and when i see ppl prying into my folder getting what i didnt want them to have, i freak and get defensive..but can you blame me? those are my creations. mine. i actually CREATED those. if someone is grabbing one of YOUR creations without asking what would you do? say "bah wahtever?" WRONG! you woulda done and said the same. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    the RIAA should emply this guy as a spokesperson...
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