Bye Bye, Ns_nancy

Haze · July 2003

<img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/sad.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='sad.gif'> That was my first map. Messhall was so cool, and thats what I remember.

But, strangly enough, I also remember the caged marine start with mess hall, weird eh? I guess I really dont know which map was my first, caged or nancy... Either way, I'm gonna be pretty bumed to see it go.

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Amen <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/sad.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='sad.gif'>

Nightelf · July 2003

i dont know much about mapping but theres a program called WinBSPC v1.2 that can covery .bsp into a .map

SNiperMarine · July 2003

are u sure it isnt .map into world hammer?

would u be happy if ns_nothing was lost instead?

ns_nancy was good map i guess.

outside of marien start there is a door and blocked the door and got it closed and killed some marines lol.

TheFrag · July 2003

You cant have a perfect NS without Nancy T_T

Aezay · July 2003

The reason I dont play DoD anymore, is that all the good old maps, were removed when v1.0 was released.
Sure, new maps are great, but they will never replace the good old maps.
I know you cant argue with the devs, but I really think they're doing the wrong thing by removing nancy.

ns_nancy, may you rest in peace <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/sad.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='sad.gif'>

Trojan2 · July 2003

man, this sucks. Nacey really is one of my favort maps. All I can hope for is that some talented mapper takes up the call to redo a better NS2 version

Khaim · July 2003

/me waves bye-bye to ns_nancy.
Someone should put the map up for download on their website for a week or two after the release as a memorial or something lol.

ScorchBcN · July 2003

snif...snif...

REDO IT!

<img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/confused.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='confused.gif'> <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/sad.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='sad.gif'> <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/confused.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='confused.gif'>

aegix · July 2003

never really liked it anyway ;D

Cereal_KillR · July 2003

</span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Aezay @ Jul 19 2003, 06:59 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> The reason I dont play DoD anymore, is that all the good old maps, were removed when v1.0 was released.
Sure, new maps are great, but they will never replace the good old maps.
I know you cant argue with the devs, but I really think they're doing the wrong thing by removing nancy.

ns_nancy, may you rest in peace <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/sad.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='sad.gif'>  </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> 
no they're not. Blame the onos. It's cuz he gets stuck every couple of feet that this map got removed. It's a good thing it's gone or even more people will quit in frustration of being blocked/all the bugs.

Maus · July 2003

Y'know, you'd have thought that since it's mentioned every few posts here that it would have sunk in (that's a little joke there) by now that <b>Nancy is unplayable, incompatable, broken, and fluffed in 2.0</b>. Just sayin'.

I'm sure if y'all want to see for yourselves you can try running Nancy when 2.0 comes ouut, and see how you like being an onos there.

Aezay · July 2003

</span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Cereal_KillR @ Jul 19 2003, 01:06 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Aezay @ Jul 19 2003, 06:59 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> The reason I dont play DoD anymore, is that all the good old maps, were removed when v1.0 was released.
Sure, new maps are great, but they will never replace the good old maps.
I know you cant argue with the devs, but I really think they're doing the wrong thing by removing nancy.

ns_nancy, may you rest in peace <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/sad.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='sad.gif'> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'>
no they're not. Blame the onos. It's cuz he gets stuck every couple of feet that this map got removed. It's a good thing it's gone or even more people will quit in frustration of being blocked/all the bugs.</td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'>
I dont remember ever getting stuck as onos on nancy in 1.04 <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/confused.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='confused.gif'>

Cereal_KillR · July 2003

but how about in 2.0 how would you know about that. As a matter of fact, nancy is about the only map I got stuck on as onos.

echs · July 2003

So will there be a replacement map for nancy in the future? Because we are now one map down...11 official maps is now 10 official maps...
Could anyone take the task into their own hands and recreate Nancy with Flayra' permission?

What a shame...Can't just let Nancy disapear, it's one of the better maps in it's little collection. <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif'>

Byeka · July 2003

I hated this map for so long! Just recently I started to like the map and now love it!!! Why did you have to wait for me to like the map before taking it out!!!???

BigMadSteve · July 2003

Like a lot of other people it was my favourite map. Many of the battles for mess hall and mother interface were intense. I've watched them from comm and been involved in them as a player. I taught myself commanding in this level since it was the first I played and everyone was a newb when I was a newb.

R.I.P. Nancy.

Wheeee · July 2003

it was on nancy that i had one of my most memorable moments in NS...Raving fades & gorges in the readyroom to part of Reel2Real's "I like to move it move it" looped over and over. I laughed so hard I had trouble breathing. Oh, the memories <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/sad.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='sad.gif'> GG, nancy, may you be remembered in fondness.

You were there, duff-man.

Haze · July 2003

Ive always wondered whats behind all those doors that are closed...if anyone makes a map have more corridors behind those doors, too mysterious.

R.I.P.

(Man...my hand smells <b><i>good.</i></b>)

Jim_has_Skillz · July 2003

The best thing about nancy was the vents. If you spent enough time, you could figure out what hive you wanted to go to via the vents. I used to do this all the time with my jetpack to avoid possible confrontations and attack the hive. I think this map was one of the most well-designed vent maps, so props to the map designer and you should have an expert try and heal that harddrive, because it can be done. I have seen harddrives fall off a 10 story building while on fire and still be recovered with minimal data loss. A hard drive crash is usually easy to heal.

CheesyPeteza · July 2003

Who made it? I wonder if he still has the hard drive, we could start up a fund to pay for his HD to have its contents recovered from one of those places that do it.

Comprox · July 2003

/me shakes head... at all you sad its gone.
The map had decent layout (besides the vents) and thats about it in my mind. And now that you cant even use an Onos on the level... Im kinda glad to see it go.

Haunted · July 2003

I was looking forward to have sensory placed into mess hall.

The map at first, seemed very plain, but it grew on me.

It will be missed.

How about all the constellation money goes to recovering the hard drive for the .rmf files. Just a thought.

BigMadSteve · July 2003

Can't the onos simply be made smaller?

Xzilen · July 2003

</span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Comprox @ Jul 19 2003, 12:37 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> /me shakes head... at all you sad its gone.
The map had decent layout (besides the vents) and thats about it in my mind. And now that you cant even use an Onos on the level... Im kinda glad to see it go.  </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> 
Thats not very nice.

*Holds tounge*

Xzilen · July 2003

Actually, this could bring SOME good, this should encourage people try some more new maps (i.e: Rampage, Hydrosity (defintely you either love it or hate it map), Karnak (very good map that very few people know of), Greian etc)

You should all go download those maps and come play them at my server :-p

Oh, and of course, Colony when its finished, and Trane.... Oh! And Atomicmass <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif'>

kalleth · July 2003

I hate to be the one to point out the obvious, but has anyone actually tried decompiling the BSP with winbsp? I realise that sometimes winbsp **** some things up - but perhaps it can get a .map that its possible to modify slightly to get it working again.

And to the person that asked about winbsp - Yes, winbsp does convert from .bsp to .map. Worldcraft/hammer can open .map files.

CheesyPeteza · July 2003

winbsp doesn't recreate the map properly. It would have massive r_speeds and probably wouldn't even compile. The best winbsp could do is to make a template.

Perhaps there's some "elite" mapper out there who can edit the bsp file itself. :o

Wheeee · July 2003

</span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (CheesyPeteza @ Jul 19 2003, 01:12 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> winbsp doesn't recreate the map properly. It would have massive r_speeds and probably wouldn't even compile. The best winbsp could do is to make a template.

Perhaps there's some "elite" mapper out there who can edit the bsp file itself. :o  </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> 
Even so, for sufficiently motivated a mapper, he could still open the .map file, then reconstruct a new nancy from it.

BeRzErKeR · July 2003

I never really liked nancy, since it was always the NEXT map in the cycle and I got irritated of it, but it's still sad to see it go. Hell, it was the first map I ever played!

JRA_Rendar · July 2003

Serisously......from what I've heard Winbsp only SOMETIMES messes up the map....isint it worth a shot? and even at that, a partially messed up Nancy would be easier to fix than rebuilding it from scratch, and ANYTHING is better than no Nancy at all.......I would do it but i have no worldcraft skills at all, lol

And onto the Onos thing....man, i wont say much because I dont have near the experiance with NS as some of you do, but i have NEVER seen an Onos get stuck on Nancy, and infact its the only map I've NEVER gotton stuck on as Onos....I've seen Onos roam all over that map, storm our base like crazy...and i even got to fight one with my LMG.......i was in that vent just outside marine start so he couldnt reach me, lol
Now granted, thats only on 1.04, but i cant imagine the stuck issue would have gotten WORSE...that seems counter productive, and infact I've seen in the changelogs a number of fixes for the Onos stuck issue...

Edit: Quoting myself here
</span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>I've heard Winbsp only SOMETIMES messes up the map</td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'>
I should rephrase that, I've heard that Winbsp USUALLY messes up the map, but not ALWAYS, so there is a chance we could still have a good Nancy

Bye Bye, Ns_nancy

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