Turrete Farming

Abaddon0 · August 2003

<div class="IPBDescription">omg i am sick of this</div> i just came froma game where the comm droped at my last count 72 turrets (i left before it was over.)

they had a 1 hive lock down and turret farmed until they had 2 hives, the aleins with a gorge onos bile bomb run were nto able to dent thease farms due to the consentrated fire of all teh turrets, if you get more then 12 turrets together it is nearly imposible to stop.

im geting real tired of teh farming, this is NS not farming 101

here are some pics from it

<img src='http://abaddon01.no-ip.info:8081/tfarm/1.jpg' border='0' alt='user posted image'>
<img src='http://abaddon01.no-ip.info:8081/tfarm/2.jpg' border='0' alt='user posted image'>

this one is not all that bad
<img src='http://abaddon01.no-ip.info:8081/tfarm/3.jpg' border='0' alt='user posted image'>
<img src='http://abaddon01.no-ip.info:8081/tfarm/4.jpg' border='0' alt='user posted image'>
<img src='http://abaddon01.no-ip.info:8081/tfarm/5.jpg' border='0' alt='user posted image'>
<img src='http://abaddon01.no-ip.info:8081/tfarm/6.jpg' border='0' alt='user posted image'>

SjN · August 2003

turret farming sux and has to go! ..all I have to say.

i see red

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Big_Chief_Brown_Bottom · August 2003

you let them afford all those turrets its your fault. given how slow res is for marines right now and you let them spend like 150 res for turrets in one room its your fault

Abaddon0 · August 2003

turret farms make res, every skulk they kill is 1-3 res, they pay for them selves in no time

DuoTheGodOfDeath · August 2003

Its not always the aliens teams fault. If marines know they are gonna lose they turtle up in a hive usally. Comm drops a cc quick on ip, then proceeds to drop a tf then like 5 sg's at max. All marines have to do it pick different corners of the room wait for those poor skulks to run in and proceed to destroy each one getting 3 rc per kill. After a while it does add up and turret farming can be easily acheived. Once they get there farm set up comm usally gets some GL's spams so aliens cant get close to marine spawn. Then saves up for a nice HA,HMG rampage.

Iv had to deal with it before. Usally when this happens and 30 minutes of aliens trying everything I do what everyone should do. Just quit find another server or just f4. I really hate sitting there for hours on end just to find out all my work is pointless. <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/mad.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='mad.gif'>

TriggerHappyGorge · August 2003

Woah! The server i play on has a Turret limit to 30... 72 would crash the server, dont you think?

Big_Chief_Brown_Bottom · August 2003

if you know a turret farm is going to kill you lone skulk then dont' attack it alone. turrets cost 10 res. 3 skulks run in there and focus fire on 1 turret and kill it. even if all of you die the comm makes like 6 res. net loss of 4 res. repeat with another group and you'll take out the farm if you find it early before 15 turrets get dropped.

elim · August 2003

I only have to say two things.

Nice placement!
and
BILE BOMB<----it works

Maus · August 2003

I have no problem with turret farming. It's the teams who refuse to work together to take them down that annoy me.

Aegeri · August 2003

That isn't a particularly good turret farm. Bilebomb would easily get most of those. I do admit that GL spam could make a large difference, but it still isn't the most wonderfully set up.

Abaddon0 · August 2003

72 will not crash it its a kick **** server

FlashFrog · August 2003

</span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Aegeri @ Aug 17 2003, 07:35 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> That isn't a particularly good turret farm. Bilebomb would easily get most of those. I do admit that GL spam could make a large difference, but it still isn't the most wonderfully set up.  </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> 
Nah, the first one is okay, it's sortof a tough area to TF, the comm thought to put turrets on the walkway, which was bright. It would be made pretty-much complete with turrets in that lower hallway connected to the upper walkway, but that might make the ones up top redundant.

That last one is quite well-done, though. I particularly like that doozy above the vent.

ZERG · August 2003

<b>Bilebomb</b>

The whole team goes gorge (costs only 10) and proceed to blitz the marine bases. If you got 8 thats more than 1000 damage per volley. That is enough to wipe out a huge area of turrets before you're all instagibbed. Then do it again.

JimBowen · August 2003

omg!!!!! I was in that very game, it was totally impossible for us aliens to do anything, the huge amount of turrets caused all our pings to go to 400 and they were impossible to bile bomb. man that round really sucked. I was just about to do they very same post this guy has. something HAS to be done about this.

edit, and we didnt let them afford all those turrets. right form the start they got a tf in atmos and engine, and they just did nothing but build turrets for the first 30 mins, no upgrades or anything, just turret spam <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/sad.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='sad.gif'>

*EDIT* u try getting your whole team to go gorge on a pub, it isnt easy.

A_Damn_Fool · August 2003

Im sorry but any player who happens to use words like omg!!!!! really really loses any chance of me thinking hes a decent player <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif'> come on people I like taking down turrent farms as aliens its kinda fun and do you know what the ultimate way of doing it? 2 fades can take out turrents from a safe distance with acid rocket its really great because you usally get to kill the marines as they try to weld the turrents back up instead of attacking.

Abaddon0 · August 2003

the problem was the lag, i turend the corner then died, i did not have time to look let alone attack befor i waws hit by all the turrets in addition ther was now way to get a gorge in there, the range of the turrets trumped our Bile Bomb.

the server is a great one (one of the most powerful if not the most powerful) P4 2.4 ghz, 512 DDR with a kick 'butt' connection

Grimm · August 2003

A Damn Fool, you seem to be forgetting that there was a turret farm in Engine Room Hive. No 3rd hive =No Acid Rocket.

Abaddon0 · August 2003

and ONI cant get into engin with out chrouching, which the 7 turrets in fron drop him befor he gits his second attack off

Vash · August 2003

You've all spelled TURRENT wrong.

JimBowen · August 2003

</span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (A Damn Fool @ Aug 17 2003, 09:15 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> Im sorry but any player who happens to use words like omg!!!!! really really loses any chance of me thinking hes a decent player <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif'> come on people I like taking down turrent farms as aliens its kinda fun and do you know what the ultimate way of doing it? 2 fades can take out turrents from a safe distance with acid rocket its really great because you usally get to kill the marines as they try to weld the turrents back up instead of attacking. </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'>
Well unfortunately this is the internet my friend and I think that you will find the word omg is in rather common usage, and although I like to convey emotion by shouting at my cable modem, im however limited restricted by the format of these forums, feel free to challange my clan to a match, and im sure I will be able to prove I am ore than adequate of taking even the worst farm o' turrets that your are able to conjure. You have to understand however, that there have now been 2 people from that same one round who have posted here in sheer frustration and amazment at what happened. Do not forget that in the two areas in which the turrets were set up, 6 marines were all standing around with welders. and just how do you take out 1 of the 74 turrets using your acid rockets whithout getting hit my the other 76? take a look at the pictures, every possible corner was covered. And I wasnt as if we were just running around as skulks with 100 res bumping into walls, we at one point had about 5 fades and 2 Onos, and we did manage to take down about 20 turrets but the other 54 were still pretty effective. (note we only had two hives, so it wasnt as if we had acid rockets but decided trying to spit spray them would be better)

The worst problem of all was the lag (every one had 400-500 ping). As a gorge I was bile bombing engine room, and I popped my head around the corner for about half a second, and got massacered by the turrets. Im sure that with your brillliant (non omg!!!! saying), world class natural selection tallent you would have of course just thrown a few bile bombs in and nipped off for a victory cigar. But hey, were not all as taleted as you. Personally I just want to see an important issue adrressed, which has caused problems, and in the case of this round was exploited to give the marines a win which they did not deserve.

*EDIT* I dont know when thoses pics were taken, but at one point there were around twice the number of turrets in engine and atmos

Abaddon0 · August 2003

i took the pics when i left i went to opbserve for a sec to take the pictures it was just after teh second hive fell

Sarisel · August 2003

I think that the crucial element you aliens were missing was umbra.. when you still had it. Umbraed gorges with bilebombs + spores vs la marines... that's all you really need. And maybe someone to cover if the marines charge.

sk84zer0 · August 2003

</span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Maus @ Aug 17 2003, 06:22 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> I have no problem with turret farming. It's the teams who refuse to work together to take them down that annoy me. </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'>
Same here

Abaddon0 · August 2003

i spammed umbra over everything, it blocks a lot of the bullets but when 15 turrets fire at you , your done

Sarisel · August 2003

how many people were actually on the scene at any time for the aliens..? with 5-7 gorges you shouldn't have a problem. A few will bilebomb while the rest heal, then take turns.

The reason why I'm not giving any sympathy here is because I've managed to spur my team numerous times to beat turret farms. Perhaps that is because I play on my clan server and people listen to clan members more than they do regulars.

Vash · August 2003

*5 to 7 gorges sit outside base, taking turns bile bombing and healing while 2 lerks umbra and spore*

*one marine shoots a single grenade in this area*

Marine killed gorge1 with GL
Marine killed gorge2 with GL
Marine killed gorge3 with GL
Marine killed gorge4 with GL
Marine killed gorge5 with GL
Marine killed lerk1 with GL
Marine killed lerk2 with GL

Marines team gets 21 res from one grenade...yeah, bile bomb and umbra really save the day when it comes to turreNt farms.

Abaddon0 · August 2003

unfortunatly the lag was to bad to form an effective assault there were so many turrets that the server was over taxed to the point where the turrets got priority over the players so that we were dead as we turned the corner befor we were able to draw a beed on a target

DarkRage · August 2003

heres my turret farm.
<img src='http://homepage.ntlworld.com/janice.brady/ns_lost0001.jpg' border='0' alt='user posted image'>

Abaddon0 · August 2003

but no one was playing with you, i was playing with 26 others

Forlorn · August 2003

Your turret farm blows, all that is needed to do is get 7 skulks with adren/carapace to leap down to the comm chair, eat up every upgrade, and wait to win.

ATI · August 2003

one...turrent....not a word. Torrent=a word. It means to heavily storm upon an object for example...japan had a torrent of rain hit its coastline. Or The torrential beatings of my verbiage hemorrhaged your brain. Turrent....not a word.

After that, turrets don't seem to be aproblem. Lock down the areas you feel as a commander need to be locked down. If your smart as the aliens, that means working harder to get gorges to use the bilebomb.

GL is a great counter to this, but seriously if your hopes are riding on one gorge to blow up an entire turret farm, your dreaming, your goign to need more team dedication to solve that problem so get more gorge, get a distraction, work together and take out the farm, its not that hard.

Turrete Farming

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