Why Do American No Use Cheating Death
EvulAL
Join Date: 2003-05-15 Member: 16341Members, Constellation
Right imm in a european clan and we have been wanting to play american clans 1 map on ours and 1 map on theirs. when they join our server they go can u tuen cd off. if we say no they go ok "match off". About 6 clans have done this to us. Could this be because they CHEAT? well i dont know. <!--emo&:angry:--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/mad.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='mad.gif'><!--endemo-->. I really wanna play em can anyone explain to me why!
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Well, you can be assured that not all Americans don't run it; I'm way the hell over here in Southern California and I've always got it running. <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif'><!--endemo-->
That is just idiotic.
"OMG! I D0N'T CH3@t! CD IS T00 h4RD3 to OP3N N00B! T3H 500Kb F1L3 i5 t0o BiG 4 m3 t0 D0nLO@D!"
If clan play was a real sport, CD would be the same as peeing into a cup to make sure your not on steriods. Sure, its annoying, but it be something you really need to do to so your skills are legitiment.
Seriously though, I don't understand why other clans make such a big deal about CD. Its a very small download, takes a few seconds to update, and doesn't interfere with VAC atm since VAC isn't supported by NS yet. If the clan you're facing asks you to turn on CD, just humor them. By saying no, all you do is make yourself look bad.
I've actually only seen two players I actually thought had aimbot/wallhack, the rest were just accusations thrown liberally.
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Sometimes (with autoupdate) it will do the update in the middle of a game and will close my game.
So i dont play with CD servers cause CD is annoying.
PS. With regards to the servers i'm looking at, I'm on the westcoast of canada.. a few clicks across the water from Washington state.
I've never had a single problem with cheating death.. i just leave it running 24/7.
you are right, HLSW also have this feature.
about the autoupdate feature, that can easyli take off, they dont launch a new version every day. you can always see what version the server runs on when you join in, and if you are outdated you can easy download the update.
its a 500kb program, it runs in the background, it can even be minimized to the tray so you dont have to look at it in your main window. it uses no CPU resources, uses only about 2mb of mem.
and its best feature, it gives people comfort that people dont cheat.
btw some of the excouses I have heard for not using CD is that if we dont trust them, we dont deserve to play them (was an amarican clan(NOT saying that all amaricans clans are that way, just some singles))
cheers
The lag complaint isn't ENTIRELY accurate. But Steam and VAC is about to render it extinct (ooh, natural selection in the process....smacks self).
we all downloaded and installed C-D when we played a euro team. Hell I wish people over here used it too.
Also, I am a firm believer that CD doesnt do squat
C-D Prevents cheats from working and does a good job about it, it doesnt ban keys, it gets the cheater off your server which is what counts. Looking at a popular cheat website (whos IRC I idle in) there are only 2 CD proof cheats right now. 1 is a OGL (openGL, these cheats are very simple and hook openGL functions, hell they are so simple I can write one) and the other is a Nvidia Detonator patch that allows a simple wallhack and lambert. Compare this to the VAC proof hacks (4 for cs1.5, 6 for cs1.6 and 4 for NS) and you will see C-D does a damn more than VAC in cheat prevention.
The website I am using is, in my opinion THE best cheat website and community which is why I idle in their IRC. All the cheats are virus and cd-key stealing tested before they are placed on the website which is also the home to the most popular client hack in HL which initials are MC (Flayra knows what im talking about, hes spoken to the creator about it and banned him from these forums etc).
If you run a server, loose the VAC, get CD if you want to get cheaters off.
As for myself, I dont cheat in NS. I cheat in CS, I rage which means I enjoy **** people off because I hate the game and I hate the community. I go into a server with every exploit, script and hack there is and just ruin everyones fun. I respect NS, its a wonderful game along with others I play like RTCW-ET and would never cheat in it.
Anyone that starts the usual name calling to me now has no life, much like myself you could say for doing what I do in CS. Flame away <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'><!--endemo-->
I had to confess that to show you that I know what im talking about when I say C-D is a whole lot better than VAC.
I dont think this post needs editing or anything, Ive gone through it and theres nothing that could help anyone interesting in cheating find a source to download one.
<3 Birdy
-edit- Before I start, if I'm wrong about having to exit out of HL to close it to get on VAC servers, tell me, straight up. I'll use it permanently, like I used to when all the servers I went to were CD required.
First off, when I was clanning, I was a intense clanner. I'd be server switchin like crazy, and I didn't wanna have to exit out of HL every time just to open a stupid as hell program. I realise CD works better than VAC- thats ALWAYS how it is. 3rd party stuff ALWAYS works better(look at NS <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'><!--endemo-->).
But when your server switching like crazy, doing about 5 different servers every 2 minutes, or just wanting to find a good server to play on with your friends, it gets REALLY annoying to have to open and close it every time I want to use it, ESPECIALLY when I can't just minimize HL then turn it on, and have it work good then. No- you've gotta TOTALLY exit out of HL, then start it, and come back. For a computer that takes 30 seconds to start HL(or more sometimes), thats A LOT OF WASTED TIME(usually upwards of a minute), in a process that does do a lot, but it just isn't fast enough for me. Personally, I wish CD would sense when I can't connect to a server because of it, and goes into hibernation for as long as I'm on the server(only requiring a quick retry).
I used to run it ALL THE TIME, until I just didn't have the time from server switching so much so often. I think CD rocks, and while I would use it, I think it just really bites that I've gotta exit HL every time I wanna start a program that is proving that I don't cheat, when people who know me know I don't EVER cheat, and am lethal to cheaters.
So don't just call me a lazy nub. Or anything like that.
Oh, and I would use ASE, but I dun wanna pay....<!--emo&:(--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/sad.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='sad.gif'><!--endemo-->
"Read the Cheating Death Manual" message as usual.....HMM.
ya right.... that would be... almost 3 servers per minute.....
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I think its clear now to everyone who reads your posts what your real problem is with cd (anti cheat program anyone??).
Second, ask ANYONE on ANY of the servers I play on: I don't cheat. I'd NEVER cheat. I'm LETHAL to cheaters that come on my server.
So I'm telling you now, don't get a flamewar started. I am one of the most dedicated members of these forums, and those who have gotten to know me know me as a friend, and ESPECIALLY as someone who doesn't cheat. I play well, and I play fair. My problem with Cdeath(ya, I DO have a problem with it) is that it won't let me connect for any other game than NS. And when did my story change, eh?
And 3 servers a minute isn't exactly impossible. With a good connection and even better processor, 2-3 servers a minute is the usual for someone who goes fast, getting information to different places.
So just don't start a flamewar and make yourself look bad- it doesn't look good for you.
VAC is currently still experimental in NS, btw. It will require a client-side patch, anyway, which we have not yet gotten. I believe it is slated for release in 2.1, but that is by no means final.