At least the slow, tepid parts of LotR actually progressed the story. God, the slow, tepid parts of Matrix were just freaking STUPID. I *DIDN'T* want to watch Keanu Reeves have anal bullet-time sex with Carrie-Anne Moss during a massive tribal techno rave.
Since both trilogies have vast legions of followers, mostly consisting of fanboys, it, at least in my humble opinion, is quite easy to say that the aforementioned films are all good. Or at least good enough to attract those followers.
Does anyone else think that a bit too many fanboys gather around threads like these?
Matrix movies = good. LOTR movies = good, but better. That's all I have to say on my opinion on this <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif'><!--endemo-->.
Oh and duff man is right.. ROTK will. be. the. win.
Saying that one trilogy is better than the other is just <i>asking</i> to be attacked by ravenous fanboys. Theyre both awesome, and are good on different (non comparable) levels. Just leave it at that.
If Matrix Revolution and Reloaded would have been as good as the first one(action and thought-wise), it would have definately kicked LotRs rear. However because they screwed up those two movies, I'm inclined to think that LotR serious might be a tad better. They are very different type of movies, so it's hard to compare. And even as Wachkowski(sp) brother screwed the 2 matrix sequels, Jackson didn't do so good work with LotReither. I had hoped so much more from LotR but it's entertaining nevertheless(some very stupid scenes, mostly pretty good casting though).
In the end... The Matrix: 5 stars Reloaded: 3 stars Revolutions: 3,5 stars Together: 4 star movies
LotR: 4 stars TT: 3,5 stars RotK: 4,5 stars? Together: 4 star movies
Both trilogies are great, just in different ways. And both trilogies had potential of becoming 5 star movies(on my scale).
<!--QuoteBegin--Dread+Nov 14 2003, 01:44 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Dread @ Nov 14 2003, 01:44 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Both trilogies are great, just in different ways. And both trilogies had potential of becoming 5 star movies(on my scale). <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> Random nub - "Mr Jackson sir, ROTK has just broke the box office record set by Matrix:Revolutions. Critics everywhere are saying it's the best film of the year!"
Mr Jackson - "I don't care about that! What did the Dread-o-meter say ?"
In my opinion at least, the same people who get off on the last two matrix movies are the same people who think plot should take a back seat to action. The last two matrix movies feel like they were added around the first movie to serve as filler and make a quick buck. There's no substance to them. The first movie should've been let alone and all would be well. But no, unfortunately you can make sequels, and let the rest of the masses flock to them in hopes that you'll somehow recreate the magic instilled in the first movie, the same magic that reloaded and revolutions had absolutely no grasp on whatsoever. Its easy to keep upping the number so long as you get the first one right, that creates the fan base, then all you need is time to let that base grow. The 'record' is no indication whatsoever of which is a better movie, its just an indication of how many people wanted to go out and see a good movie. Too bad I at least was horribly let down by the childish attempt at an idea that was reloaded and revolutions.
You're not in either company that made or produced either of these movies, the movie takings or ratings mean <b>nothing</b> to you. If you like the movie, great, if you don't like it, other people may do, so shut the hell up.
<!--QuoteBegin--::esuna::+Nov 14 2003, 07:07 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (::esuna:: @ Nov 14 2003, 07:07 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> You know guys, who cares?
You're not in either company that made or produced either of these movies, the movie takings or ratings mean <b>nothing</b> to you. If you like the movie, great, if you don't like it, other people may do, so shut the hell up. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> Yeah!Esuna_is_talking_business!Why_should_we_talk_about_anything_on_these_boards? I_mean_why_not_just_close_ourselves_in_to_our_comfy_smelly_rooms_in_our_parents_basements, and_never_talk_to_anyone_again!
You're not in either company that made or produced either of these movies, the movie takings or ratings mean <b>nothing</b> to you. If you like the movie, great, if you don't like it, other people may do, so shut the hell up. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> Yeah!Esuna_is_talking_business!Why_should_we_talk_about_anything_on_these_boards? I_mean_why_not_just_close_ourselves_in_to_our_comfy_smelly_rooms_in_our_parents_basements, and_never_talk_to_anyone_again!
Esuna,don't_be_such_a_threadkiller <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'><!--endemo--> <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> I take it your spacebar's broken.
I'm not trying to kill the tread, i'm trying to distribute a little sanity here. What's the point of throwing s**t at each other because you personally prefer one movie to another. Some people like one thing, others like another, live with it.
You're not in either company that made or produced either of these movies, the movie takings or ratings mean <b>nothing</b> to you. If you like the movie, great, if you don't like it, other people may do, so shut the hell up. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> Yeah!Esuna_is_talking_business!Why_should_we_talk_about_anything_on_these_boards? I_mean_why_not_just_close_ourselves_in_to_our_comfy_smelly_rooms_in_our_parents_basements, and_never_talk_to_anyone_again!
Esuna,don't_be_such_a_threadkiller <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'><!--endemo--> <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> I take it your spacebar's broken.
I'm not trying to kill the tread, i'm trying to distribute a little sanity here. What's the point of throwing s**t at each other because you personally prefer one movie to another. Some people like one thing, others like another, live with it. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> Because monkeys are cool, and imitation is the sincerest form of plagarism.
You're not in either company that made or produced either of these movies, the movie takings or ratings mean <b>nothing</b> to you. If you like the movie, great, if you don't like it, other people may do, so shut the hell up. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> Yeah!Esuna_is_talking_business!Why_should_we_talk_about_anything_on_these_boards? I_mean_why_not_just_close_ourselves_in_to_our_comfy_smelly_rooms_in_our_parents_basements, and_never_talk_to_anyone_again!
Esuna,don't_be_such_a_threadkiller <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'><!--endemo--> <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> I take it your spacebar's broken. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> Check_out_the_big_brains_on_Brett! <!--emo&;)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/wink.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wink.gif'><!--endemo--> Yah,I_did_some_fixing_with_mah_keyboard_and_for_some_reason(I_suspect_the_elves), it_stopped_working.Just_can_you_believe_that?!
<!--QuoteBegin--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->I'm not trying to kill the tread, i'm trying to distribute a little sanity here. What's the point of throwing s**t at each other because you personally prefer one movie to another. Some people like one thing, others like another, live with it.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
<!--QuoteBegin--Nemesis Zero+Nov 14 2003, 10:13 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Nemesis Zero @ Nov 14 2003, 10:13 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> I'll leave this assembly of amusing, yet completely irrelevant arguments open; nothing occured to me as over-the-top hostile.
Oh, and Dread: Go out there and get yourself a new keyboard. Now. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> I_would,if_some_shop_would_be_open_on_friday_22:57.And_it's_not_like_I_can_stop_posting_here for_several_hours.That's_just_crazy_talk.
Quite honestly, they shoulve left the Matrix at 1 spectacular movie, No lame game, no stupid cartoons and certianly no MMORPG that takes place <i>in</i> the Matrix <i>after</i> revolutions...why the **** are people staying in the matrix? aah, to play video games?
All in all it was a well executed multi-media franchise...but not much more than that. Everything beyond the first movie felt like a big gimmic, but at least its over now. I'm not gonna pretend I thought it all sucked, I like everything about tha Matrix, but the above still holds true.
LotR doesnt make a very good movie simply because of its structure. It cant be condensed into movie length. The way the book is written cant be easily translated into seperate scenes. And theres too many charecters and places too establish and keep track of for a typical movie audience. Having only read the Hobbit and Fellowship, I must say, the Two Towers took a bit more concentration than is nescesary for watching a movie. However the epic was waiting to be brought to the big screen, and Im happy that it got a big budget, and Im suprized at how well Peter Jackson is pulling it off.
As a series I much prefer LOTR... I didn't like the second Matrix movie at all. ^^ I'm going to see the last one tomorrow, though... here's to hoping it's better than I've heard it is @.@
<!--QuoteBegin--uranium - 235+Nov 13 2003, 07:05 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (uranium - 235 @ Nov 13 2003, 07:05 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Just to put this into perspective, Counter-Strike is top multiplayer game of all time. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> I disagree. Doom is the top multiplayer game of all time. Of course, not that many have *played* it multiplayer, but that's just nitpicking. <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'><!--endemo-->
Edit: The first Matrix WAS NOT THAT GREAT. I am so much happier with what the bros. did to it. It would have sucked to have been left as this tiny movie with some special effects and a legacy of having surprised people who never read/saw any good sci-fi. You have fooled yourself with regards to its quality. That is all.
Further edit: Oh, what the hell. I'll go on a bit about this mmorpg thing.
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At the end the Architect promised to release every human, *who wanted to be released*. He still owns the Matrix, he still orders the Agents around, and all the other machines, from Oracle to Merovingian, are still there. He will still do his damnedest (<--yes, real word) to keep his flock from knowing the truth and he has the capability to do it. This is the drama that will likely drive the story. The game may suck, or it may not, but either way you can't say that there is nothing to it.
<!--QuoteBegin--Anonymous Coward+Nov 15 2003, 02:47 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Anonymous Coward @ Nov 15 2003, 02:47 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin--uranium - 235+Nov 13 2003, 07:05 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (uranium - 235 @ Nov 13 2003, 07:05 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Just to put this into perspective, Counter-Strike is top multiplayer game of all time. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> I disagree. Doom is the top multiplayer game of all time. Of course, not that many have *played* it multiplayer, but that's just nitpicking. <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'><!--endemo-->
Edit: The first Matrix WAS NOT THAT GREAT. I am so much happier with what the bros. did to it. It would have sucked to have been left as this tiny movie with some special effects and a legacy of having surprised people who never read/saw any good sci-fi. You have fooled yourself with regards to its quality. That is all.
Further edit: Oh, what the hell. I'll go on a bit about this mmorpg thing.
At the end the Architect promised to release every human, *who wanted to be released*. He still owns the Matrix, he still orders the Agents around, and all the other machines, from Oracle to Merovingian, are still there. He will still do his damnedest (<--yes, real word) to keep his flock from knowing the truth and he has the capability to do it. This is the drama that will likely drive the story. The game may suck, or it may not, but either way you can't say that there is nothing to it. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> Um...I dont know where you got your stats from, but Doom is *NOT* the top multiplayer game of all time. Uranium was making a point, not stating his opinion.
Also, the entire trilogy, the Animatrix, and the SP game were all planned out from the before the first movie even went into production. They didnt do anything with it...they just followed the game plan. And dont try to be condescending, your opinion is as stupid to me as mine is to you. I think you have fooled yourself. That is all. (rolls eyes)
As far as Matrix:Online... The only people with powers in the matrix know they are in the matrix. Its gonna take some sever plot freaking to make it all those people doing wire-fu make sense.
You know--the only thing I disliked is the massive budget cuts from the Matrix (there were supposed to be four movies, or at least the third nearly three hours long) but because Warner Bros etc. had other targets, the storyline never finished.
LOTR and the Matrix both are very kickass. I love them both. <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif'><!--endemo-->
I knew they planned it like that. But they could have decided to leave it be at the first movie. They didn't. You said it would have been better if they did. I disagreed. Woo.
I think everyone has a right to be a little condescending once in a while. It's a good feeling. Don't let the right-wingers have all the fun!
Moved in edit: Doom is the top game, isn't it? It has been installed on more computers than any other game ever. That to me makes it superior than having sold the most units or having the most people playing it at the same time ever.
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As it was all planned from the beginning, I doubt that it will be too difficult to create a viable setting for the online game. This is how I see it: You start as one of those few people that know what the Matrix is all about. Either you have come from Zion or you were recently released. You will do battle in the Matrix to gain power to either: a. free everyone. or b. to maintain the Matrix as it is. It will be your decision to pursure one goal or the other.
<!--QuoteBegin--Anonymous Coward+Nov 15 2003, 09:19 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Anonymous Coward @ Nov 15 2003, 09:19 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> I knew they planned it like that. But they could have decided to leave it be at the first movie. They didn't. You said it would have been better if they did. I disagreed. Woo.
I think everyone has a right to be a little condescending once in a while. It's a good feeling. Don't let the right-wingers have all the fun!
As it was all planned from the beginning, I doubt that it will be too difficult to create a viable setting for the online game. This is how I see it: You start as one of those few people that know what the Matrix is all about. Either you have come from Zion or you were recently released. You will do battle in the Matrix to gain power to either: a. free everyone. or b. to maintain the Matrix as it is. It will be your decision to pursure one goal or the other.
No plot freaking involved.
Doom is the top game, isn't it? It has been installed on more computers than any other game ever. That to me makes it superior than having sold the most units or having the most people playing it at the same time ever. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> Ok good point on the Matrix: Online...They did say there is no "real world" (Zoin) gameplay
Flight Simulator and Myst have both sold more than DoomII, and Doom 1 isnt even in the top 10 iirc. There are no statistics showing that doom "has been installed on more machines than any game ever" and theres no way to prove it, so Its a moot point.
Kerberos, every interveiw Ive seen suggests that they got to do <i>exactly</i> what they wanted to do, they never changed thier plans. Ive never heard anything about a 4th movie.
<!--QuoteBegin--Anonymous Coward+Nov 14 2003, 09:47 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Anonymous Coward @ Nov 14 2003, 09:47 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin--uranium - 235+Nov 13 2003, 07:05 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (uranium - 235 @ Nov 13 2003, 07:05 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Just to put this into perspective, Counter-Strike is top multiplayer game of all time. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> I disagree. Doom is the top multiplayer game of all time. Of course, not that many have *played* it multiplayer, but that's just nitpicking. <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'><!--endemo-->
Edit: The first Matrix WAS NOT THAT GREAT. I am so much happier with what the bros. did to it. It would have sucked to have been left as this tiny movie with some special effects and a legacy of having surprised people who never read/saw any good sci-fi. You have fooled yourself with regards to its quality. That is all.
Further edit: Oh, what the hell. I'll go on a bit about this mmorpg thing.
At the end the Architect promised to release every human, *who wanted to be released*. He still owns the Matrix, he still orders the Agents around, and all the other machines, from Oracle to Merovingian, are still there. He will still do his damnedest (<--yes, real word) to keep his flock from knowing the truth and he has the capability to do it. This is the drama that will likely drive the story. The game may suck, or it may not, but either way you can't say that there is nothing to it. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> Thanks for ruining Revolutions for me. <!--emo&:angry:--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/mad.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='mad.gif'><!--endemo--> <!--emo&:angry:--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/mad.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='mad.gif'><!--endemo--> <!--emo&:angry:--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/mad.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='mad.gif'><!--endemo-->
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Does anyone else think that a bit too many fanboys gather around threads like these?
LOTR movies = good, but better.
That's all I have to say on my opinion on this <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif'><!--endemo-->.
Oh and duff man is right.. ROTK will. be. the. win.
In the end...
The Matrix: 5 stars
Reloaded: 3 stars
Revolutions: 3,5 stars
Together: 4 star movies
LotR: 4 stars
TT: 3,5 stars
RotK: 4,5 stars?
Together: 4 star movies
Both trilogies are great, just in different ways. And both trilogies had potential of becoming 5 star movies(on my scale).
Random nub - "Mr Jackson sir, ROTK has just broke the box office record set by Matrix:Revolutions. Critics everywhere are saying it's the best film of the year!"
Mr Jackson - "I don't care about that! What did the Dread-o-meter say ?"
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Too bad I at least was horribly let down by the childish attempt at an idea that was reloaded and revolutions.
You're not in either company that made or produced either of these movies, the movie takings or ratings mean <b>nothing</b> to you. If you like the movie, great, if you don't like it, other people may do, so shut the hell up.
You're not in either company that made or produced either of these movies, the movie takings or ratings mean <b>nothing</b> to you. If you like the movie, great, if you don't like it, other people may do, so shut the hell up. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
Yeah!Esuna_is_talking_business!Why_should_we_talk_about_anything_on_these_boards?
I_mean_why_not_just_close_ourselves_in_to_our_comfy_smelly_rooms_in_our_parents_basements,
and_never_talk_to_anyone_again!
Esuna,don't_be_such_a_threadkiller <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'><!--endemo-->
You're not in either company that made or produced either of these movies, the movie takings or ratings mean <b>nothing</b> to you. If you like the movie, great, if you don't like it, other people may do, so shut the hell up. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Yeah!Esuna_is_talking_business!Why_should_we_talk_about_anything_on_these_boards?
I_mean_why_not_just_close_ourselves_in_to_our_comfy_smelly_rooms_in_our_parents_basements,
and_never_talk_to_anyone_again!
Esuna,don't_be_such_a_threadkiller <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'><!--endemo--> <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
I take it your spacebar's broken.
I'm not trying to kill the tread, i'm trying to distribute a little sanity here. What's the point of throwing s**t at each other because you personally prefer one movie to another. Some people like one thing, others like another, live with it.
You're not in either company that made or produced either of these movies, the movie takings or ratings mean <b>nothing</b> to you. If you like the movie, great, if you don't like it, other people may do, so shut the hell up. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Yeah!Esuna_is_talking_business!Why_should_we_talk_about_anything_on_these_boards?
I_mean_why_not_just_close_ourselves_in_to_our_comfy_smelly_rooms_in_our_parents_basements,
and_never_talk_to_anyone_again!
Esuna,don't_be_such_a_threadkiller <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'><!--endemo--> <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
I take it your spacebar's broken.
I'm not trying to kill the tread, i'm trying to distribute a little sanity here. What's the point of throwing s**t at each other because you personally prefer one movie to another. Some people like one thing, others like another, live with it. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
Because monkeys are cool, and imitation is the sincerest form of plagarism.
The Zion Rave/Neo & Trin sex scene lasted just about 10 minutes, possibly 5-8.
Lord knows i've seen Reloaded enough times to know.
and if no one thinks that Reloaded has good quotes, try learning the Causality and the Smith "Purpose" diatribes.
You're not in either company that made or produced either of these movies, the movie takings or ratings mean <b>nothing</b> to you. If you like the movie, great, if you don't like it, other people may do, so shut the hell up. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Yeah!Esuna_is_talking_business!Why_should_we_talk_about_anything_on_these_boards?
I_mean_why_not_just_close_ourselves_in_to_our_comfy_smelly_rooms_in_our_parents_basements,
and_never_talk_to_anyone_again!
Esuna,don't_be_such_a_threadkiller <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'><!--endemo--> <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
I take it your spacebar's broken. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Check_out_the_big_brains_on_Brett! <!--emo&;)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/wink.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wink.gif'><!--endemo--> Yah,I_did_some_fixing_with_mah_keyboard_and_for_some_reason(I_suspect_the_elves),
it_stopped_working.Just_can_you_believe_that?!
Edit:I_was_just_torn_by_guilt_after_typing_that_Pulp_Fiction_quote,
and_I_was_afraid_I_might_have_hurt_Esunas_feelings_so_I_came_back_to_say:I_regret_nothing!
/escapes_daringly
<!--QuoteBegin--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->I'm not trying to kill the tread, i'm trying to distribute a little sanity here. What's the point of throwing s**t at each other because you personally prefer one movie to another. Some people like one thing, others like another, live with it.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
If_people_enjoy_debating_t<b>h</b>ings,why_not_l<b>e</b>t_them_just_<b>d</b>o_that?
It's_not_like_we_are_hurlin<b>g</b>_insults_at_<b>e</b>ac<b>h</b>_<b>o</b>ther_here?
Well,atleast_all_the_insults_have_been_hidden_in_to_the_messa<b>g</b>e_to_avoid_mod-wrath <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif'><!--endemo-->
Oh, and Dread: Go out there and get yourself a new keyboard. Now.
Oh, and Dread: Go out there and get yourself a new keyboard. Now. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
I_would,if_some_shop_would_be_open_on_friday_22:57.And_it's_not_like_I_can_stop_posting_here
for_several_hours.That's_just_crazy_talk.
I_think_I'll_open_this_piece_of_crap_and_see_if_I_can_break_it_some_more.
If_you_won't_see_me_in_2_hours,a_lethal_amount_of_electricity_wen't_through_me_and_I've_turned
in_to_a_turnip.Or_cabbage.I'd_personally_prefer_turnip.
Nublet.
All in all it was a well executed multi-media franchise...but not much more than that. Everything beyond the first movie felt like a big gimmic, but at least its over now. I'm not gonna pretend I thought it all sucked, I like everything about tha Matrix, but the above still holds true.
LotR doesnt make a very good movie simply because of its structure. It cant be condensed into movie length. The way the book is written cant be easily translated into seperate scenes. And theres too many charecters and places too establish and keep track of for a typical movie audience. Having only read the Hobbit and Fellowship, I must say, the Two Towers took a bit more concentration than is nescesary for watching a movie. However the epic was waiting to be brought to the big screen, and Im happy that it got a big budget, and Im suprized at how well Peter Jackson is pulling it off.
I disagree. Doom is the top multiplayer game of all time. Of course, not that many have *played* it multiplayer, but that's just nitpicking. <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'><!--endemo-->
Edit: The first Matrix WAS NOT THAT GREAT. I am so much happier with what the bros. did to it. It would have sucked to have been left as this tiny movie with some special effects and a legacy of having surprised people who never read/saw any good sci-fi. You have fooled yourself with regards to its quality. That is all.
Further edit: Oh, what the hell. I'll go on a bit about this mmorpg thing.
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At the end the Architect promised to release every human, *who wanted to be released*. He still owns the Matrix, he still orders the Agents around, and all the other machines, from Oracle to Merovingian, are still there. He will still do his damnedest (<--yes, real word) to keep his flock from knowing the truth and he has the capability to do it. This is the drama that will likely drive the story. The game may suck, or it may not, but either way you can't say that there is nothing to it.
I disagree. Doom is the top multiplayer game of all time. Of course, not that many have *played* it multiplayer, but that's just nitpicking. <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'><!--endemo-->
Edit: The first Matrix WAS NOT THAT GREAT. I am so much happier with what the bros. did to it. It would have sucked to have been left as this tiny movie with some special effects and a legacy of having surprised people who never read/saw any good sci-fi. You have fooled yourself with regards to its quality. That is all.
Further edit: Oh, what the hell. I'll go on a bit about this mmorpg thing.
At the end the Architect promised to release every human, *who wanted to be released*. He still owns the Matrix, he still orders the Agents around, and all the other machines, from Oracle to Merovingian, are still there. He will still do his damnedest (<--yes, real word) to keep his flock from knowing the truth and he has the capability to do it. This is the drama that will likely drive the story. The game may suck, or it may not, but either way you can't say that there is nothing to it. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
Um...I dont know where you got your stats from, but Doom is *NOT* the top multiplayer game of all time. Uranium was making a point, not stating his opinion.
Also, the entire trilogy, the Animatrix, and the SP game were all planned out from the before the first movie even went into production. They didnt do anything with it...they just followed the game plan. And dont try to be condescending, your opinion is as stupid to me as mine is to you. I think you have fooled yourself. That is all. (rolls eyes)
As far as Matrix:Online... The only people with powers in the matrix know they are in the matrix. Its gonna take some sever plot freaking to make it all those people doing wire-fu make sense.
LOTR and the Matrix both are very kickass. I love them both. <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif'><!--endemo-->
I think everyone has a right to be a little condescending once in a while. It's a good feeling. Don't let the right-wingers have all the fun!
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Doom is the top game, isn't it? It has been installed on more computers than any other game ever. That to me makes it superior than having sold the most units or having the most people playing it at the same time ever.
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As it was all planned from the beginning, I doubt that it will be too difficult to create a viable setting for the online game. This is how I see it: You start as one of those few people that know what the Matrix is all about. Either you have come from Zion or you were recently released. You will do battle in the Matrix to gain power to either: a. free everyone. or b. to maintain the Matrix as it is. It will be your decision to pursure one goal or the other.
No plot freaking involved.
I think everyone has a right to be a little condescending once in a while. It's a good feeling. Don't let the right-wingers have all the fun!
As it was all planned from the beginning, I doubt that it will be too difficult to create a viable setting for the online game. This is how I see it: You start as one of those few people that know what the Matrix is all about. Either you have come from Zion or you were recently released. You will do battle in the Matrix to gain power to either: a. free everyone. or b. to maintain the Matrix as it is. It will be your decision to pursure one goal or the other.
No plot freaking involved.
Doom is the top game, isn't it? It has been installed on more computers than any other game ever. That to me makes it superior than having sold the most units or having the most people playing it at the same time ever. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
Ok good point on the Matrix: Online...They did say there is no "real world" (Zoin) gameplay
Flight Simulator and Myst have both sold more than DoomII, and Doom 1 isnt even in the top 10 iirc. There are no statistics showing that doom "has been installed on more machines than any game ever" and theres no way to prove it, so Its a moot point.
Kerberos, every interveiw Ive seen suggests that they got to do <i>exactly</i> what they wanted to do, they never changed thier plans. Ive never heard anything about a 4th movie.
I disagree. Doom is the top multiplayer game of all time. Of course, not that many have *played* it multiplayer, but that's just nitpicking. <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'><!--endemo-->
Edit: The first Matrix WAS NOT THAT GREAT. I am so much happier with what the bros. did to it. It would have sucked to have been left as this tiny movie with some special effects and a legacy of having surprised people who never read/saw any good sci-fi. You have fooled yourself with regards to its quality. That is all.
Further edit: Oh, what the hell. I'll go on a bit about this mmorpg thing.
At the end the Architect promised to release every human, *who wanted to be released*. He still owns the Matrix, he still orders the Agents around, and all the other machines, from Oracle to Merovingian, are still there. He will still do his damnedest (<--yes, real word) to keep his flock from knowing the truth and he has the capability to do it. This is the drama that will likely drive the story. The game may suck, or it may not, but either way you can't say that there is nothing to it. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
Thanks for ruining Revolutions for me. <!--emo&:angry:--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/mad.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='mad.gif'><!--endemo--> <!--emo&:angry:--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/mad.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='mad.gif'><!--endemo--> <!--emo&:angry:--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/mad.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='mad.gif'><!--endemo-->