Multicultural Gameplay
Wasted
Join Date: 2002-12-14 Member: 10795Members
Join Date: 2002-12-14 Member: 10795Members
<div class="IPBDescription">Or: What the h*** did you just say?</div> I'm from Singapore (It's not in China, btw. Remember Michael Fay? Our ban on chewing gum? SARS?) and while English is the lingua franca here, the vernacular accent used during online gameplay is distinctively different from that of more common American, English or Aussie English.
Since there're only a grand total of four local servers I usually end up playing on other servers in the Asia-Pacific, where I'd end up listening to Cantonese on the Hongkong severs, Taiwanese Mandarin on the Taiwanese servers, Korean on the S. Korean servers, Japanese on the Japanese servers, Australian English on the Australian servers, and British English on the UK servers.
It's fun hearing a different language or a different accent of English over the voicecomm. Initially. But soon the novelty wears off and it gets quite annoying when my Korean/Hongkonger/Taiwanese comm's giving me detailed instructions that I don't understand a word of, or when some cad hurls some expletives my way (don't you hate it when someone tells you to f*** off in a foreign language?).
I'm guessing most of you NS players on this forum hail from either the US, UK, or Australia where English is the lingua franca (or the <i>only</i> spoken language of your community), so you probably might not have experienced the same degree of multilingual gameplay as I have. Or have you?
Have any of you played (or do you regularly play) on a non-English-speaking NS server, and what's your gameplay experience like (compared to if you play on a local server)? Given that NS is has a particularly strong emphasis on teamwork, has being unable to communicate with the other players on your team been a tangible handicap?
Since there're only a grand total of four local servers I usually end up playing on other servers in the Asia-Pacific, where I'd end up listening to Cantonese on the Hongkong severs, Taiwanese Mandarin on the Taiwanese servers, Korean on the S. Korean servers, Japanese on the Japanese servers, Australian English on the Australian servers, and British English on the UK servers.
It's fun hearing a different language or a different accent of English over the voicecomm. Initially. But soon the novelty wears off and it gets quite annoying when my Korean/Hongkonger/Taiwanese comm's giving me detailed instructions that I don't understand a word of, or when some cad hurls some expletives my way (don't you hate it when someone tells you to f*** off in a foreign language?).
I'm guessing most of you NS players on this forum hail from either the US, UK, or Australia where English is the lingua franca (or the <i>only</i> spoken language of your community), so you probably might not have experienced the same degree of multilingual gameplay as I have. Or have you?
Have any of you played (or do you regularly play) on a non-English-speaking NS server, and what's your gameplay experience like (compared to if you play on a local server)? Given that NS is has a particularly strong emphasis on teamwork, has being unable to communicate with the other players on your team been a tangible handicap?
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Don't play on a server where you don't know the language.
Second Rule:
Stick to the language of the server.
Yah, I am an american. I stay away from any server that isn't english (I tend to beable to understand most accents).
I am also a constie so I get to play with alot of the Brits (and a few aussies) Regularly. Its fun and rather amusing.
The American coulture tends to make fun of accents alot, thus many of us sorta assume that 'no one ACTUALY talks like that' simply b/c we figgure that it is just some one making fun of another country.
Then you come on a server and your comm is an aussie. Its fun <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif'><!--endemo-->
As an interesting side note:
The Aussies tend to be MUCH esier to understand then ANY one else. I am wondering if it has to do with the accent (Or possibly they just know how to use a mike <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif'><!--endemo-->)
Since there're only a grand total of four local servers I usually end up playing on other servers in the Asia-Pacific, where I'd end up listening to Cantonese on the Hongkong severs, Taiwanese Mandarin on the Taiwanese servers, Korean on the S. Korean servers, Japanese on the Japanese servers, Australian English on the Australian servers, and British English on the UK servers.
It's fun hearing a different language or a different accent of English over the voicecomm. Initially. But soon the novelty wears off and it gets quite annoying when my Korean/Hongkonger/Taiwanese comm's giving me detailed instructions that I don't understand a word of, or when some cad hurls some expletives my way (don't you hate it when someone tells you to f*** off in a foreign language?).
I'm guessing most of you NS players on this forum hail from either the US, UK, or Australia where English is the lingua franca (or the <i>only</i> spoken language of your community), so you probably might not have experienced the same degree of multilingual gameplay as I have. Or have you?
Have any of you played (or do you regularly play) on a non-English-speaking NS server, and what's your gameplay experience like (compared to if you play on a local server)? Given that NS is has a particularly strong emphasis on teamwork, has being unable to communicate with the other players on your team been a tangible handicap? <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
ROFL!!!!
All in good human nature, I suppose. <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'><!--endemo-->
Same thing mainly in europe too. Servers are quite near each other and my connection speed is terrible, which means majority of games I hear only unrecognized mumbling and buzzing or then someone tries to explain something VERY interesting and Important.
"gazluzirnazkah nazuzeiheihei"
"..." <!--emo&::marine::--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/marine.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='marine.gif'><!--endemo-->
"Ranuzkishihtarsihztihtapi <!--emo&::skulk::--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/skulk.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='skulk.gif'><!--endemo--> <!--emo&::skulk::--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/skulk.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='skulk.gif'><!--endemo--> <!--emo&::skulk::--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/skulk.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='skulk.gif'><!--endemo-->!!!!" <!--emo&::asrifle::--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/asrifle.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='asrifle.gif'><!--endemo-->
"Oh this is something I understand!" *takataka takataka!* <!--emo&::asrifle::--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/asrifle.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='asrifle.gif'><!--endemo-->
Most likely message comes in one of the six languages I know exist in servers. Either its english, spanish, french, german, swedish or always so lovely finnish which I still dont understand through microphone, even though I've written a book in finnish :F=
And it was fun listening to them in the start, now it only pisses me off when someone has good connection while my lag is under 100 and can receive clear spanish speech (which I dont understand a word, I cant even swear in spanish)
Could we get a list of how to say welder in several popular languages? that would help some.
Could we get a list of how to say welder in several popular languages? that would help some. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Soldador, por favor - Spanish
Soudeuse, sil vous plait - French
Schweisser bitte - German
(my spanish and french are rusty, so they may not be entirely correct, and my german is lacking, so I just used an online translator...and whatever you do, don't forget the w in schweisser)
just call it welder, works on all german servers i know <!--emo&::nerdy::--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/nerd.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='nerd.gif'><!--endemo-->
I can appreciated what you're saying, a few weeks back there was this pair of spanish players on Roobs who would constantly chat over the voicecomm (it wasn't game related according to a spanish-speaking member of the server). It was just a shame there was no admin present or they would have been kick-banned instantly.
Not for speaking their own language you understand, but for repeatedly speaking (well, spamming is more accurate a word in this case) a language that 90% of the server population couldn't understand... DOWN THE VOICECOMM for the ENTIRE time they were there, after being told repeatedly to please stop.
Oh, and they liked to go commander and then only give orders to their spanish buddy. Yes we ejected them, but then they only got worse and started swearing at us in broken english.
I think someone talking down the voicecomm in ENGLISH as much as they were would have been banned.
Yes, I know, mute. And I did. In a perfect world there would be no need for a mute button.
If anyone from roobs knows what happened to them? I would be most interested to know, and I can only hope they've been permabanned.
LOL! I can so imagine you pretending to be a **** bot. "+use"ing the arms lab. Trying to enter an occupied comchair. Running into walls. Hilarious.
But you know what? Sometimes when effective communication is only possible through the use of waypoints, menu voice messages ("Follow me", "I'm covering you", etc.) and flashlights, it's very satisfying in a feel-good kind of way when you achieve that degree of understanding between you and the other non-English-speaking player. Like in any other social situation where you finally understand what that foreign dude is saying ("Oh, right! I've got **** on my hair! Haha!")
Though I've said that I get annoyed when I don't understand the language, I don't dislike the servers or the non-English-speaking communities any bit because of the language difference. I've had many more enjoyable games on those servers than on my local ones, mainly because there're more serious players on their pub servers. Stupid players and lousy gameplay annoy me more than having something rude said about my mother in Cantonese.
And, ironically enough, it's on the non-English-speaking servers that my Marine teammates automatically weld me when I'm low on armour. Something I can seldom get my local English-speaking comrades to do even after repeated team_say "Weld me pls" or voicecommed "F***ing weld me will you!?" <!--emo&:(--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/sad.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='sad.gif'><!--endemo-->
"English please".
so we don't say "soldador"... we just go "welder por favor"... <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif'><!--endemo-->
also, being next to Brazil, we get some portuguese, which sounds like a mix of italian-spanish-french-carnivalhappytalk... <!--emo&;)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/wink.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wink.gif'><!--endemo-->
Don't play on a server where you don't know the language.
Second Rule:
Stick to the language of the server.
Yah, I am an american. I stay away from any server that isn't english (I tend to beable to understand most accents).
I am also a constie so I get to play with alot of the Brits (and a few aussies) Regularly. Its fun and rather amusing.
The American coulture tends to make fun of accents alot, thus many of us sorta assume that 'no one ACTUALY talks like that' simply b/c we figgure that it is just some one making fun of another country.
Then you come on a server and your comm is an aussie. Its fun <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif'><!--endemo-->
As an interesting side note:
The Aussies tend to be MUCH esier to understand then ANY one else. I am wondering if it has to do with the accent (Or possibly they just know how to use a mike <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif'><!--endemo-->) <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
Actually i enjoy playing on foreign language servers greatly.... sometimes
I actually learned to a limited extent what comms/people were saying.. and actually diddnt look like a noob...
I like to find one person who speaks english/the language on the server to tell them i dont speak it.. and that i will do whatever is told of me.. and i hope to be an asset
I never comm.. and i usually defend base the first few times and just listen.... from there after a few hours i can become active to a limited amount.... though i can not speak.. i can understand the words...
~Jason
Try it.. it can be quite fun (hated foreign language in school... but like this)
Pretty fun to hear all kinds of languages if i can understand them but stuff like spanish,italian and french is scary <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif'><!--endemo-->
Seems they took the word "to weld", and conjugated it as if it was a Portuguese word, so "you weld" would be welda, and "-me" is pretty self-explanitory, resulting in "you weld me"...
Keeping in mind that all the NS text is still only in English, it's only natural that slang would be created around the English names of these objects. In short: I don't think you are going to have any trouble if you stick purely to nouns, I think even the French would have an easy time understanding "gorge heal spray hive" or "marine welder armoury"
First of all I always type instead of using voicecom, which cuts down a bit on the confusion.
And second I try to stick to labels that show up in game. Since they aren't translated in-game, I figure even the non-english speaking coms must know that whatever they call a welder is dropped by the button with the label "welder" on it, and that this Hive is labeled "Waste Hive" by the map maker, and so on.
They are comming to ___ from ___
Need a RT/TF here Commander
Could I have a ____
Where to?
Go to ____
and, of course:
WELD ME YOU ********* <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif'><!--endemo-->
The Aussies tend to be MUCH esier to understand then ANY one else. I am wondering if it has to do with the accent (Or possibly they just know how to use a mike <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif'><!--endemo-->) <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
Thats nice to hear. I've been playing on a couple of US servers and I was wondering if people could understand me. <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif'><!--endemo--> Some of the syntax used is a little different and I've had to adjust my playing style, but overall its been pretty fun. If your stuck in a bit of a rut I'd reccomend giving other countries a go. <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif'><!--endemo-->
As a side note, Im looking for more good overseas (ie, non-aussie) NS servers as Im trying to expand my experience (I amost stopped playing because my local servers started to suck).
Have any of you played (or do you regularly play) on a non-English-speaking NS server, and what's your gameplay experience like (compared to if you play on a local server)? Given that NS is has a particularly strong emphasis on teamwork, has being unable to communicate with the other players on your team been a tangible handicap? <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
*COUGH* CANADA TOO *COUGH* <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif'><!--endemo-->
However, it would certianly be interesting to play on a server where a different language is used... French and German would possibly be the easiest of the game servers language's to "figure out" while Japanese and the other middle-east/east asia/asian languages would be the most difficult...
Try figuring out Russian, for instance. Rusian text characters are, for the most part for me, cryptical to try to decypher... and trying to figure out the [spoken] language isn't much easier. o.0
[always know what "no" sounds/reads like in other languages. "NINE MAVERIC ... blah blah blah ... !" on text would be "NO MAVERIC ... blah blah blah... !" in German. while "No" in German is 9. therefore, do not assume "No" in one language means the same in every other laguage.]
I'd like to try that in DoD. Very authentic it would be.
Its so amusing when a 13 year old is using the mic,shouting in broken dialect and trying to give me the impression that i should be frightnened because hes the "big brother" of some infamous gang...... <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'><!--endemo-->
But anyway, I guess we have to live with it until 1 language is required by international law....but that isn't really gonna happen :/
BTW, ingame name?
On a totally unrelated note, do people from canada have a canadian accent? (only say something if you actually know canadians, the canadian accent you generally see on TV is more like an aboriginal accent, I dont know a single person who talks that way) Just curious about the international perspective on this, many canadians seem to think that candian english is the purest form of spoken english, and how would I know if it were true or not?
1: less idiots
2: better players (actually, not skillwise, cos we dutch just rule at games <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif'><!--endemo--> but teamwork is not a common factor on our servers)
hm, yeah, thats about it. luckily language is no problem at all for me
It's fun to play on servers of different european nations around, I have decent 60+- ping on them ... It's best if it's non-english server where people speak english, that way, it's simple to understand, people understand you more than brits or americans and no one makes fun of your accent. And yeah I can now say some spanninsh or finnish swear words too :-)
Bad thing is that on multi-national serverss people tend to speak less, so If I wanna play "communication rich" game I must play on servers in our country or UK servers.
Funny thing is that I always meet someone from my country on UK server, sometimes even 5-6 czechs on server like yo-clan, UK servers must be infested by foreigners :-)
The voice and text chat was all in German, obviously.
Then an American joined.
Germans (in German): "blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah"
Germans : "blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah"
American: "WTH? Why aren't you speaking English?"
Germans : "blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah"
American: "Hey! Speak ENGLISH, ****!"
German: "Dude, this is a German server. We're all German."
*American disconnects*
ther arnt players in the 2 servers we posses [useally[
so the only sanctuary i have is UK <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'><!--endemo-->
it has better pings then USA for sure...
or mayb in the far east its different.. nm
just put into fevorites the server's that are 18 hours a day full...
like "yo" or "medpack: or "aWa" or "barry" [these are mine btw]
Yes, er, we Finnish people DO tend to swear quite a lot <!--emo&;)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/wink.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wink.gif'><!--endemo-->
and many of us created new verbs from english ones
i.e.
to welder -> weldare (io weldo, tu weldi, egli welda...)
so if you want to be welded you should say "weldami/weldatemi" (if you say it to one player / to 2 or more players)
ps: during a game in an italian server, if you want to say that marines are lame, just type "maringo danatzo" <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'><!--endemo-->