Rambo Marine Solution!
esuna
Rock Bottom Join Date: 2003-04-03 Member: 15175Members, Constellation
Rock Bottom Join Date: 2003-04-03 Member: 15175Members, Constellation
<div class="IPBDescription">Plugin :-)</div> Well, in a flash of brilliance, i've had an idea for NS. Well, more specifically, an idea for a server plugin, since the idea is too dumb to get put in NS.
Basically, we all hate those marines that won't guard, or just wander off ramboing, ignoring other orders. The most common and annoying disregard for orders is usually the "defend" order. I ask and i ask and STILL they run off.
Here's where the plugin comes in.
How about a marine tether. You plant a stick in the ground and the commander can tie the marine to the stick. Because of this, the marine can only move a certain distance from the stick and is forced to defend.
But what if an alien attacks, he's defenceless.... i hear you cry (In my mind)....
Well if an alien gets within a certain distance or the marine takes damage (from an alien, not ff) then the marine is untethered.
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Basically, we all hate those marines that won't guard, or just wander off ramboing, ignoring other orders. The most common and annoying disregard for orders is usually the "defend" order. I ask and i ask and STILL they run off.
Here's where the plugin comes in.
How about a marine tether. You plant a stick in the ground and the commander can tie the marine to the stick. Because of this, the marine can only move a certain distance from the stick and is forced to defend.
But what if an alien attacks, he's defenceless.... i hear you cry (In my mind)....
Well if an alien gets within a certain distance or the marine takes damage (from an alien, not ff) then the marine is untethered.
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Sounds like alot more work for an already overworked comm..
We marines, under the agreement act of 2234, clause 991.4 are free to act as our will dictates. And no commander, alien, or other marines will force us to do what we dont desire to.
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We marines, under the agreement act of 2234, clause 991.4 are free to act as our will dictates. And no commander, alien, or other marines will force us to do what we dont desire to.
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It's a server plugin, i'm not suggesting this for the actual game. Come down from your high-horse there.
(Btw, when did the S&I forum dissapear from you pc, esuna?)
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/me drops.
My thoughts exactly.
(Btw, when did the S&I forum dissapear from you pc, esuna?)
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Well this has no place. It's not an idea for NS, it's an idea for a plugin for NS. According to Delarosa, this topic doesn't really belong anywhere. <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif'><!--endemo-->
(And S&I dissappeared a week or two ago, when it was renamed I&S)
that was perhaps the stupidest idea i have heard for a server plugin suggestion.
first of all, this post should belong in the server support/plugin suggestion forum, not in the general discusssion forum, since as u said urself "this idea is too wack to go into the NS game itself"
Second, this plugin, if implemented will be abused on every single server ... i guarantee it. this idea is almost as stupid as the plugin idea for restricting high level equipment to certain players chosen by the commander (when res is really limited to prevent n00bs and rambos to take good equipment and die off). nothing will stop a lamer from hopping in chair, and leashing every single marine to marine start. gg, f4~!
Congrats! you've just formulated another thoughtless idea!
that was perhaps the stupidest idea i have heard for a server plugin suggestion.
first of all, this post should belong in the server support/plugin suggestion forum, not in the general discusssion forum, since as u said urself "this idea is too wack to go into the NS game itself"
Second, this plugin, if implemented will be abused on every single server ... i guarantee it. this idea is almost as stupid as the plugin idea for restricting high level equipment to certain players chosen by the commander (when res is really limited to prevent n00bs and rambos to take good equipment and die off). nothing will stop a lamer from hopping in chair, and leashing every single marine to marine start. gg, f4~!
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Firstly, if you're going to post and criticise my idea, first notice there is no "server plugin suggestion forum", secondly, i would rather kill myself than use the term "wack", thirdly, i spent the time making sure my post was spelt correctly and using complete (Not, for example, "u" instead of "you") words, at least have the decency of showing me the same.
I, of course, use "criticise" in the loosest sense of the word, i feel "needlessly flaming" to be a far more accurate description.
Anyway, it was an idea, not a set in stone, solid, definate, plan. As with <b>all</b> ideas, the room for improvement and modification is there.
Also, to top it all off, this is mostly a JOKE.
I <b>know</b> how easily exploitable is, i'm not a damned idiot, as you feel the need to point out.
I don't see how people can NOT realize how crappy that argument is.
So, instead of spamming CCs in the marine spawn, the commander will now leash his marines? oh noes! that makes SUCH A HUGE DIFFERENCE!!11
Why are everyone so negative and "OMG U SUK" about this idea and not the ones that are utterly useless, like the "missile that isnt a nuke but does the same!!"? At least this one would <b>reduce</b> annoyance.
I don't see how people can NOT realize how crappy that argument is.
So, instead of spamming CCs in the marine spawn, the commander will now leash his marines? oh noes! that makes SUCH A HUGE DIFFERENCE!!11 <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
And as soon as an alien comes near, they're free again!
Maybe the plugin can detect if that commander has placed an IP, armoury and TF (for example) and will only let them leash then....
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Easily fixed by having the "leash" lose its effect if the comm drops or otherwise leaves the CC.
They are very open to suggestions and most of the people there enjoy putting out plugins and can find new ones a challenge. Then you can at least avoid any flaming or heated arguments.
How many of you took this 100% seriously? Obviously it's not. The plugin would be funny, potentially useful, and just silly.
On well admin'd server, it wouldn't be too big a deal. I can't believe some morons took him completely seriously.. <!--emo&???--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/confused.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='confused.gif'><!--endemo-->
<b>IMPORTANT MESSAGE FOR PLAYERS OF NATURAL SELECTION</b>:
You are not a space marine <i>!!</i>
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Cool, thanks for the suggestion, i may try that.
This idea can be exploited, same as spamming CC chairs all over the map can ruin the game. But how often does that happen? Let's see, I frequent good servers with good players and nice admins... so I have seen that happen <b>only once since 1.04</b>. Wow gg kthx bai.
I rather like the idea, and would find it very useful as a commander, and it wouldn't bother me one bit as a marine. I also wouldn't find a problem with people exploiting this, because a bad commander can do <b>far worse</b> things than just tethering people in base. Can you say vote-kick/ban?
And while it would be heavily abused, it would be super fun for the com, lol...
It would be bad for marine morale, yes... but it would be good for setting noobs as bait or keeping them from going and giving the other teams tons of res merely by ramboing... or maybe tethering them to an rt until they build it if they're really noobish ::shrugs::
Definetely wouldn't be good for making people defend though... They'd either defend for their life, or considering its just a game, take out a knife and run at any alien that gets close.
But in all honesety I can see a plugin like that causing a server to empty. I personally love that marine who strolls off and guts me an alien res tower so I can replace it with a shiny new Marine one.
Maybe I suggest you can assign them a guard area that is a visable boundary to the marine. Instead of actually teathering them you can tell them to patrol a certain area. Just off the top of my head. <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif'><!--endemo-->
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How many of you took this 100% seriously? Obviously it's not. The plugin would be funny, potentially useful, and just silly.
On well admin'd server, it wouldn't be too big a deal. I can't believe some morons took him completely seriously.. <!--emo&???--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/confused.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='confused.gif'><!--endemo-->
<b>IMPORTANT MESSAGE FOR PLAYERS OF NATURAL SELECTION</b>:
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dum idea, if marines dint hav te fredom to go whereever they want ns isnt a game anymor <!--emo&:angry:--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/mad.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='mad.gif'><!--endemo-->
Some rambos can be quite useful.
On Veil I ramboed off to pipeline, capping every res along the way without encountering any skulks.
Once, on origin, I was a good old rambo. Aliens had Vent and Biodome, we had furnace. They had some hell of a defence in bio, but, after several tries, I managed to get past their defences with 1 HP to look upon the defenceless hive in all it's beauty, setup a phase and took the hive.
As a rambo, I've killed several eggs gorging, several gorges egging, and in one mean streak, managed to take down 3 Alien RT's.
A good rambo on your team is an indispensable tool, why limit that possibility?