<!--QuoteBegin--supernorn2000+Nov 30 2003, 09:07 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (supernorn2000 @ Nov 30 2003, 09:07 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <i>An Onos takes out a Heavy Armour Marine on co_kestrel</i> <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> Is that heavy actually flying away?! (and looking pretty good while in flight?)
and yes that lerk is flying right towards me <!--emo&::marine::--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/marine.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='marine.gif'><!--endemo-->
the skulk couldnt even get a bite on any of us <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif'><!--endemo-->
<!--QuoteBegin--Cronos+Nov 30 2003, 04:49 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Cronos @ Nov 30 2003, 04:49 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <a href='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/index.php?act=ST&f=5&t=29292&hl=napalm' target='_blank'>Where Terr Said it</a> <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> I did'n write that darn-tootin thing in any ways even close'ta grammaratical, and I's still ashamed of eeyit. I's musta been drunk er somethin.
I'd start posting some awesome shots, but they're all in 1600x1200 bmps, and I don't feel like converting. <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif'><!--endemo-->
These look pretty bad after norns pics, but at least they're big <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif'><!--endemo-->
and doesnt that lerk look like its eating the marine's corpse? <!--emo&:0--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/wow.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wow.gif'><!--endemo-->
<!--QuoteBegin--supernorn2000+Nov 30 2003, 04:07 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (supernorn2000 @ Nov 30 2003, 04:07 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <i>An Onos takes out a Heavy Armour Marine on co_kestrel</i> <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> Level 10 commander with +9 upgrades left, yet shotgun, HA and level 2/3? did I miss something in the changelog?
<!--QuoteBegin--Umbraed Monkey+Dec 1 2003, 09:34 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Umbraed Monkey @ Dec 1 2003, 09:34 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Hey do lerks flap now? or do they still (for the lack of a better description) hovar without flapping? <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> Basically, whenever you tap jump, you flap in the direction you're holding ( you currently can't go backwards though, you have to turn in that direction <!--emo&:(--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/sad.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='sad.gif'><!--endemo--> ).
However, whenever you're in the air, holding down jump would make you glide. The speed is depended on your speed before gliding, so if you tapped twice you'd glide pretty fast slowing down gradualy ( you can glide for a while), and if you were going really fast, you'd glide fast.
The energy also runs out quickly ( even with adren + celerity), so you need to glide a lot in order to keep it.
As for that +9 thing, I believe that's just a little glitch. I'm pretty sure norn was viewing a demo of a person playing ( Hellbilly), and the demo screwed up a bit.
<!--QuoteBegin--MrMojo+Dec 1 2003, 10:02 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (MrMojo @ Dec 1 2003, 10:02 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin--Umbraed Monkey+Dec 1 2003, 09:34 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Umbraed Monkey @ Dec 1 2003, 09:34 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Hey do lerks flap now? or do they still (for the lack of a better description) hovar without flapping? <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> Basically, whenever you tap jump, you flap in the direction you're holding ( you currently can't go backwards though, you have to turn in that direction <!--emo&:(--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/sad.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='sad.gif'><!--endemo--> ).[stuff follows] <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> I think he meant the lerk flying animation. It only spreads it's wings instead of using the flap animation currently. Also, lerks that walk off an edge and then start flapping won't play either animation, they will kinda walk in mid-air.
In 3.0 beta the lerk animation has been completly fixed, the wings flap correctly now. It's so smooth and sensual <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif'><!--endemo-->
<!--QuoteBegin--MrMojo+Dec 1 2003, 04:02 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (MrMojo @ Dec 1 2003, 04:02 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> However, whenever you're in the air, holding down jump would make you glide. The speed is depended on your speed before gliding, so if you tapped twice you'd glide pretty fast slowing down gradualy ( you can glide for a while), and if you were going really fast, you'd glide fast. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> Can you steer while you glide, or are you locked into idiot-mode, only able to charge boldly straight into a wall?
<!--QuoteBegin--Dr. Schmeebis+Dec 1 2003, 04:53 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Dr. Schmeebis @ Dec 1 2003, 04:53 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin--MrMojo+Dec 1 2003, 04:02 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (MrMojo @ Dec 1 2003, 04:02 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> However, whenever you're in the air, holding down jump would make you glide. The speed is depended on your speed before gliding, so if you tapped twice you'd glide pretty fast slowing down gradualy ( you can glide for a while), and if you were going really fast, you'd glide fast. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> Can you steer while you glide, or are you locked into idiot-mode, only able to charge boldly straight into a wall? <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> It's like flying plane, duder.
Point where you want to go, get some speed, and glide that way. It's VERY intuitive once you get over the fact you have to DONT have to flap fifty billion times to go anywhere. <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif'><!--endemo-->
Pointing up slows you down, diving speeds you up (Though not as much as it probably should.)
I'd love to see stunt contests in an open air map designed for lerks.. with rings and platforms and stuff. <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif'><!--endemo--> <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif'><!--endemo--> It'd be so awesome..
<!--QuoteBegin--Align+Dec 1 2003, 04:12 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Align @ Dec 1 2003, 04:12 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin--MrMojo+Dec 1 2003, 10:02 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (MrMojo @ Dec 1 2003, 10:02 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin--Umbraed Monkey+Dec 1 2003, 09:34 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Umbraed Monkey @ Dec 1 2003, 09:34 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Hey do lerks flap now? or do they still (for the lack of a better description) hovar without flapping? <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> Basically, whenever you tap jump, you flap in the direction you're holding ( you currently can't go backwards though, you have to turn in that direction <!--emo&:(--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/sad.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='sad.gif'><!--endemo--> ).[stuff follows] <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> I think he meant the lerk flying animation. It only spreads it's wings instead of using the flap animation currently. Also, lerks that walk off an edge and then start flapping won't play either animation, they will kinda walk in mid-air. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> Yep, thats what I meant, but I quite appreciate the detailed explaination of flight MrMojo gave too. Thanks guys <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif'><!--endemo-->
<!--QuoteBegin--Delphi+Dec 1 2003, 04:57 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Delphi @ Dec 1 2003, 04:57 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin--Dr. Schmeebis+Dec 1 2003, 04:53 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Dr. Schmeebis @ Dec 1 2003, 04:53 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin--MrMojo+Dec 1 2003, 04:02 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (MrMojo @ Dec 1 2003, 04:02 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> However, whenever you're in the air, holding down jump would make you glide. The speed is depended on your speed before gliding, so if you tapped twice you'd glide pretty fast slowing down gradualy ( you can glide for a while), and if you were going really fast, you'd glide fast. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> Can you steer while you glide, or are you locked into idiot-mode, only able to charge boldly straight into a wall? <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> It's like flying plane, duder.
Point where you want to go, get some speed, and glide that way. It's VERY intuitive once you get over the fact you have to DONT have to flap fifty billion times to go anywhere. <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif'><!--endemo-->
Pointing up slows you down, diving speeds you up (Though not as much as it probably should.)
I'd love to see stunt contests in an open air map designed for lerks.. with rings and platforms and stuff. <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif'><!--endemo--> <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif'><!--endemo--> It'd be so awesome.. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> you didn't answer my question:
If you start gliding in a certain direction, can you steer while you glide and change directions? could i leap off the top of the refinery hive room in ns_bast and spiral downward, in a glide, to the ground?
Well, seeing that he said that you can speed up and down by pointing up and down, I guess it means you can change direction while gliding. As well, the changlog stated that banking is in...so.. no idiot mode.
Yes, you can, although you would need to flap to steer in a spiral.
Gliding, after picking up speed, moves you in a direction. Pointing to another direction while gliding will make you go there, but, say, turning all the way around wouldn't make you go back, as you would just stop. So, for example, to round the corner, you flap before it, glide to it, turn direction, and flap again to keep going. It's like driving a car, when you're not holding the gas pedal, you don't expect it to drive if you turn the car to the left.
<!--QuoteBegin--MrMojo+Dec 1 2003, 05:38 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (MrMojo @ Dec 1 2003, 05:38 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Yes, you can, although you would need to flap to steer in a spiral.
Gliding, after picking up speed, moves you in a direction. Pointing to another direction while gliding will make you go there, but, say, turning all the way around wouldn't make you go back, as you would just stop. So, for example, to round the corner, you flap before it, glide to it, turn direction, and flap again to keep going. It's like driving a car, when you're not holding the gas pedal, you don't expect it to drive if you turn the car to the left. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> Yep.
<!--QuoteBegin--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->Level 10 commander with +9 upgrades left, yet shotgun, HA and level 2/3? did I miss something in the changelog?<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
I've only <b>just</b> got Steam fixed (turns out it was an ISP issue). All of the screenshots I posted (apart from the co_core one) Is from a Demo Hellbilly sent me of him playing. Dont ask me why he chose that stuff <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif'><!--endemo-->
I dont know what to do with all the files PseudoKnight! you got a readme installation guide somewhere? <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'><!--endemo-->
<!--QuoteBegin--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->And the slower you turn, the more speed you keep. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Can you strafe into the turn and turn slowly to gain some speed like when bunnyhopping? <!--emo&:0--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/wow.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wow.gif'><!--endemo-->
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Is that heavy actually flying away?! (and looking pretty good while in flight?)
I thought the HA's got special thrown away animation a la DoD 1.1.
and yes that lerk is flying right towards me <!--emo&::marine::--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/marine.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='marine.gif'><!--endemo-->
I did'n write that darn-tootin thing in any ways even close'ta grammaratical, and I's still ashamed of eeyit. I's musta been drunk er somethin.
and doesnt that lerk look like its eating the marine's corpse? <!--emo&:0--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/wow.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wow.gif'><!--endemo-->
Level 10 commander with +9 upgrades left, yet shotgun, HA and level 2/3? did I miss something in the changelog?
Basically, whenever you tap jump, you flap in the direction you're holding ( you currently can't go backwards though, you have to turn in that direction <!--emo&:(--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/sad.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='sad.gif'><!--endemo--> ).
However, whenever you're in the air, holding down jump would make you glide. The speed is depended on your speed before gliding, so if you tapped twice you'd glide pretty fast slowing down gradualy ( you can glide for a while), and if you were going really fast, you'd glide fast.
The energy also runs out quickly ( even with adren + celerity), so you need to glide a lot in order to keep it.
As for that +9 thing, I believe that's just a little glitch. I'm pretty sure norn was viewing a demo of a person playing ( Hellbilly), and the demo screwed up a bit.
Basically, whenever you tap jump, you flap in the direction you're holding ( you currently can't go backwards though, you have to turn in that direction <!--emo&:(--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/sad.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='sad.gif'><!--endemo--> ).[stuff follows] <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
I think he meant the lerk flying animation. It only spreads it's wings instead of using the flap animation currently. Also, lerks that walk off an edge and then start flapping won't play either animation, they will kinda walk in mid-air.
Can you steer while you glide, or are you locked into idiot-mode, only able to charge boldly straight into a wall?
Can you steer while you glide, or are you locked into idiot-mode, only able to charge boldly straight into a wall? <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
It's like flying plane, duder.
Point where you want to go, get some speed, and glide that way. It's VERY intuitive once you get over the fact you have to DONT have to flap fifty billion times to go anywhere. <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif'><!--endemo-->
Pointing up slows you down, diving speeds you up (Though not as much as it probably should.)
I'd love to see stunt contests in an open air map designed for lerks.. with rings and platforms and stuff. <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif'><!--endemo--> <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif'><!--endemo--> It'd be so awesome..
Basically, whenever you tap jump, you flap in the direction you're holding ( you currently can't go backwards though, you have to turn in that direction <!--emo&:(--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/sad.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='sad.gif'><!--endemo--> ).[stuff follows] <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
I think he meant the lerk flying animation. It only spreads it's wings instead of using the flap animation currently. Also, lerks that walk off an edge and then start flapping won't play either animation, they will kinda walk in mid-air. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
Yep, thats what I meant, but I quite appreciate the detailed explaination of flight MrMojo gave too. Thanks guys <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif'><!--endemo-->
Can you steer while you glide, or are you locked into idiot-mode, only able to charge boldly straight into a wall? <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
It's like flying plane, duder.
Point where you want to go, get some speed, and glide that way. It's VERY intuitive once you get over the fact you have to DONT have to flap fifty billion times to go anywhere. <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif'><!--endemo-->
Pointing up slows you down, diving speeds you up (Though not as much as it probably should.)
I'd love to see stunt contests in an open air map designed for lerks.. with rings and platforms and stuff. <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif'><!--endemo--> <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif'><!--endemo--> It'd be so awesome.. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
you didn't answer my question:
If you start gliding in a certain direction, can you steer while you glide and change directions? could i leap off the top of the refinery hive room in ns_bast and spiral downward, in a glide, to the ground?
Gliding, after picking up speed, moves you in a direction. Pointing to another direction while gliding will make you go there, but, say, turning all the way around wouldn't make you go back, as you would just stop. So, for example, to round the corner, you flap before it, glide to it, turn direction, and flap again to keep going. It's like driving a car, when you're not holding the gas pedal, you don't expect it to drive if you turn the car to the left.
Gliding, after picking up speed, moves you in a direction. Pointing to another direction while gliding will make you go there, but, say, turning all the way around wouldn't make you go back, as you would just stop. So, for example, to round the corner, you flap before it, glide to it, turn direction, and flap again to keep going. It's like driving a car, when you're not holding the gas pedal, you don't expect it to drive if you turn the car to the left. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
Yep.
And the slower you turn, the more speed you keep.
I've only <b>just</b> got Steam fixed (turns out it was an ISP issue). All of the screenshots I posted (apart from the co_core one) Is from a Demo Hellbilly sent me of him playing. Dont ask me why he chose that stuff <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif'><!--endemo-->
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Extract it into your NS directory:
\Steam\SteamApps\name@email.com\half-life\ns
Can you strafe into the turn and turn slowly to gain some speed like when bunnyhopping? <!--emo&:0--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/wow.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wow.gif'><!--endemo-->