About The Res Overflow Thing

ShawnDShawnD Join Date: 2002-11-09 Member: 7827Members
in NS General Discussion
In 3.0 will it be like it was in the old versions where you would like evolve into onos then your res just shoots way up to like 100 almost instantly or is it like a slow drip thing or how is it going to work exactly?
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  • Roger_DodgerRoger_Dodger Join Date: 2003-03-11 Member: 14392Members
    I'd assume it would be like it used to in 1.04. Much simpler that way so it doesnt have to constantly figure out drips each time to each player.

    As i really have no idea and just using logic dont take me as any sort of credible source.

    - RD
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  • Jabba_The_HuntJabba_The_Hunt Join Date: 2003-01-05 Member: 11850Members
    wait a second, res overflow has been put back into ns?
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  • Roger_DodgerRoger_Dodger Join Date: 2003-03-11 Member: 14392Members
    edited December 2003
    O Added alien resource overflow. So any res over 100 that is received by players will go into the pool (bug #87).

    Taken from the changelog thread just do a search for overflow on Neomatrix's thread (in internet explorer edit then find).

    - RD
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  • DelphiDelphi Join Date: 2003-04-02 Member: 15134Members, Constellation
    Res overflow IS back in, yes. It works exactly like 1.04 overflow.. in that if you have 100 res (Uh, okay not EXACTLY like 1.04) and get one res, that res is added to the pool. Anyone who does NOT have one res instantly takes from said pool.

    So let's say everyone on the team has 100 res, but no res towers. One goes gorge (10) sets a res tower (15), and waits. Since the res model is 1 res every 4 seconds divided by the number of aliens, he'd get about 1 res every 4 seconds until someone else used res.

    If everyone has 100 res, and there's 100 res in the pool, then someone joins the game, that person will instantly gain anything they can from said pool. It's all simple, but I overcomplicated it.
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  • Quantum_DuckQuantum_Duck Join Date: 2003-10-21 Member: 21851Members, Constellation
    It's great except for the fact that something about res is bugged and each alien gets massive res per tick now. Makes NS games rather difficult for marines. And people wonder why this version isn't public yet...
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  • ZERGZERG Join Date: 2003-02-04 Member: 13132Members, Constellation
    I thought res wasn't split up and divided anymore? I thought the res for aliens was rotated between each alien receiving res. I.E. 2 aliens and 1 rt. One alien gets 1 res in the first 4 seconds. The second gets 1 res in the second 4 second interval.
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  • ExtremeExtreme Join Date: 2003-12-10 Member: 24225Members
    Oh cool, sounds like the res management is better, because it doesn't make sense to just have your res dissapear in the black void of space if you have 100.
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  • Jabba_The_HuntJabba_The_Hunt Join Date: 2003-01-05 Member: 11850Members
    yeah i always thought that was a little unfair, nice to know its back in, i just hope it cant be exploited in any way.
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  • ZekZek Join Date: 2002-11-10 Member: 7962Members, NS1 Playtester, Constellation, Reinforced - Shadow
    Res overflow is in, but it will be pretty trivial in the post-1.04 res system. How often do you see multiple aliens capped out at 100 res for an extended period of time?
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  • IBTIBT Join Date: 2003-10-22 Member: 21879Members
    <!--QuoteBegin--Delphi+Dec 20 2003, 04:14 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Delphi @ Dec 20 2003, 04:14 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Res overflow IS back in, yes. It works exactly like 1.04 overflow.. in that if you have 100 res (Uh, okay not EXACTLY like 1.04) and get one res, that res is added to the pool. Anyone who does NOT have one res instantly takes from said pool.

    So let's say everyone on the team has 100 res, but no res towers. One goes gorge (10) sets a res tower (15), and waits. Since the res model is 1 res every 4 seconds divided by the number of aliens, he'd get about 1 res every 4 seconds until someone else used res.

    If everyone has 100 res, and there's 100 res in the pool, then someone joins the game, that person will instantly gain anything they can from said pool. It's all simple, but I overcomplicated it. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    nice explanation, and a good idea
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  • PowerslavEPowerslavE Join Date: 2003-10-25 Member: 21962Members
    <!--QuoteBegin--Zek+Dec 20 2003, 05:50 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Zek @ Dec 20 2003, 05:50 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Res overflow is in, but it will be pretty trivial in the post-1.04 res system. How often do you see multiple aliens capped out at 100 res for an extended period of time? <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Quite often in stalemated pub games. All it'll mean there is Gorges will WOL up the map more than before.
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  • ShawnDShawnD Join Date: 2002-11-09 Member: 7827Members
    <!--QuoteBegin--Zek+Dec 20 2003, 07:50 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Zek @ Dec 20 2003, 07:50 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Res overflow is in, but it will be pretty trivial in the post-1.04 res system. How often do you see multiple aliens capped out at 100 res for an extended period of time? <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    In the game we call them "onos" <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'><!--endemo-->.

    I quite often have 100 res for long periods of time when I'm a lerk.
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  • DelphiDelphi Join Date: 2003-04-02 Member: 15134Members, Constellation
    <!--QuoteBegin--Zek+Dec 20 2003, 07:50 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Zek @ Dec 20 2003, 07:50 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Res overflow is in, but it will be pretty trivial in the post-1.04 res system. How often do you see multiple aliens capped out at 100 res for an extended period of time? <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    When multiple onos go redemption and harass marines consistantly? <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif'><!--endemo-->

    Had a game before 3.0c that had two people as onos the entire game (I sheeit you not, the ENTIRE game.. you know, as soon as they could onos, anyway.)

    We won because our few res towers gave the gorgies massive res with those two oni overflowing. Woulda been insane to have RFK overflow.. they were like 200-6 or something by the end of the game. <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif'><!--endemo-->
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  • ExtremeExtreme Join Date: 2003-12-10 Member: 24225Members
    <!--QuoteBegin--ShawnD+Dec 20 2003, 08:12 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (ShawnD @ Dec 20 2003, 08:12 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin--Zek+Dec 20 2003, 07:50 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Zek @ Dec 20 2003, 07:50 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Res overflow is in, but it will be pretty trivial in the post-1.04 res system. How often do you see multiple aliens capped out at 100 res for an extended period of time? <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    In the game we call them "onos" <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'><!--endemo-->.

    I quite often have 100 res for long periods of time when I'm a lerk. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Same here, I usually go lerk early and gas the hell out of the marines (without ups they die fast) and usually don't die untill they get hmgs or ha, so I have 100 res for a while.
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  • zibalatzzibalatz Join Date: 2003-08-09 Member: 19300Members, Constellation
    I assumed that res overflow was removed to deal with the problem of players f4ing to throw res back in the pool... how has that been addressed, if at all?
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  • DelphiDelphi Join Date: 2003-04-02 Member: 15134Members, Constellation
    edited December 2003
    <!--QuoteBegin--zibalatz+Dec 20 2003, 10:15 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (zibalatz @ Dec 20 2003, 10:15 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> I assumed that res overflow was removed to deal with the problem of players f4ing to throw res back in the pool...  how has that been addressed, if at all? <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    I believe the res is lost permanently, but given back if the player rejoins the server within the round.
    Edit: The reason it was thrown into the pool was because there was no way to regain res if you got disconnected. Now there is, hence the pool is back.
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  • MajinMajin Join Date: 2003-05-29 Member: 16829Members, Constellation
    <!--QuoteBegin--Delphi+Dec 20 2003, 04:14 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Delphi @ Dec 20 2003, 04:14 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Res overflow IS back in, yes. It works exactly like 1.04 overflow.. in that if you have 100 res (Uh, okay not EXACTLY like 1.04) and get one res, that res is added to the pool. Anyone who does NOT have one res instantly takes from said pool.

    So let's say everyone on the team has 100 res, but no res towers. One goes gorge (10) sets a res tower (15), and waits. Since the res model is 1 res every 4 seconds divided by the number of aliens, he'd get about 1 res every 4 seconds until someone else used res.

    If everyone has 100 res, and there's 100 res in the pool, then someone joins the game, that person will instantly gain anything they can from said pool. It's all simple, but I overcomplicated it. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    And it currently bugged.
    Its like 1.1 (I think it was 1.1 when you could spam OCs like mad, been a while) all over again!

    I dont really like the way the overflow works, I find it gives an advantage to the kharaa, and no I am not talking about the current bug.


    I guess I will have to wait to see what comes out of 3.0e
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  • RabidWeaselRabidWeasel Join Date: 2002-11-02 Member: 5337Members
    I like the sound of overflow, I no longer have to feel guilty when I stay lerk with 100 res.
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