Kids being sent to a detention camp for "unruly behavior" which is determined by the parents - Media doesnt give a ****
Parents being sent ot a detention camp for "unruly behavior" which is determined by the KIDS - Oh boy it would be all over the news.Damn hypocrites......
Firstly that is a detention camp.Saying its a "rehabilation facility" or some crap is like saying auschwitz was a "Refugee Camp".
Secondly saying that any complaints by the kids are "manipulation" is BULL.Firstly,the facility is telling you "Look,our facility is 100% pure goodness.Anyone who says bad things about is manipulating you".Basically,they are telling you not to trust anything bad beng said about them.Funny,if Saddam had told the world not to believe the reports off gassing the kurds,mass executions,WMD,etc because they were "manipulation",the media would be all over it....but hey its american kids,who gives a damn right?
And the no media thing is again,bull.Thats like Saddam disallowing foreign journalists to report on Saddam's bad deeds because they "have no idea what it really is like" or some crap.Cant you see?They are COVERING IT UP.They dont want the media to see how bad the facility is.
That guy running the facility is a complete retard.....he tries to cover up all the bad stuff his faiclity does by substituting them with flowery words.Funny,i have never heard of someone telling the judge "Look sir,i didnt kill him,i was just ending his existence" and getting away scot-free.
They might as well build a facility in the USA,send out kidnap squads to grab adults,force them to sign a contract,and torture them for years.If the police try to shut it down,just tell them its a "rehabiliation facility","You dont know what you are talking about" and "Anything bad you have heard is a manipulation attempt".
And its bull...parents can send their kids there for ANYTHING.They can thereotically send their kids there for not providing sexual services to their parents.
Lets see.My parents are "unruly".I consider them "unruly".Maybe i should send my parents away to a facility like tranquility bay where they learn to be nice to their kid(me),and they come back in a couple of years,completely brainwashed into treating me like the ruler of the universe.
Get the point?THE FACILITY IS A BRAINWASHING DETENTION CAMP FOR PARENTS TO GET TRAINED OBEDIENT SERVANTS WHO WILL DO WHATEVER THEY ARE TOLD.
I mean sheesh its not bad enough that parents ALREADY have kids for the sole purpose of getting a nice source of income in their old age and having free servants(or rather,slaves),but now they have a facility to TRAIN them for parents....christus.....
i bet none of u could survive without a computer there! <!--emo&;)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/wink.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wink.gif'><!--endemo--> , and i know i wouldn't survive not being able to talk OR see girls <!--emo&???--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/confused.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='confused.gif'><!--endemo-->
Don't blame the facility. He has a point that man. His methods are brutal and taxes his patients greatly, allright, but he's trying to fix what the parents screwed up on royally. Blame the parents. The kids that arrive there are ruined by awful parents, and the parents living on with their instant-solutions life, turn to "experts" to cure the symptoms of their own failing lifestyles. I pity the kids, but if they are taught some rough lessons about life BEFORE they are let into the wild, I hope they make good use of them.
Man....this place is sick. There really is no other word for it. I feel so angry right now that there are parents in the world who would do this to their children. I can't offer any discussion to this topic apart from that it's sick. Christ I need a drink after reading that.
To tell you the truth, the concept behind the camp isn't all that bad, it's just how it's gone about is what's bad. This would be a lot better if it was state-run or -regulated, as someone said. That way there would be parameters and guidelines for sending kids there for legitimate reasons (drug problems) ...instead of that girl who got sent there for having sex without asking her parents.
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<!--QuoteBegin--Jamil+Dec 26 2003, 12:55 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Jamil @ Dec 26 2003, 12:55 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> I like it. If you do not respect your parents and their wishes, you deserve nothing more. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> Why? If they dont deserve respect they shouldnt get it, and their wishes shouldnt matter the <b>slightest</b>
Heres what ya do, blow the staff to hell, then blame the U.S government because it taught you to bomb people you dont like. Then do it again but blame GTA3 and see how its differant.
P.S Jamil, I hate you so fu***** much it isn't funny.
*EDIT* I guess I may be a little harsh in evaluating this concentration camp, oops, I mean "behaviour correction facility" because I am an Anarchist. Therefore it goes against everything I stand for.
<!--QuoteBegin--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->What happens inside Tranquility would be illegal on British soil, but the facility falls under Jamaican jurisdiction and parents here are as free as Americans to send their children where they like. A spokesman for the Children's Legal Centre in the UK confirmed, 'I can't see anything in the law that would stop a British parent from sending their child there. It is appalling, but it is down to the Jamaican government.'<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->My opinion of the British govenment: <span style='color:green'>Up 54 & 6/8th points.</span> My opinion of the US government: <span style='color:red'>Down 67 & 1/8th points.</span>
My desire to own a large non-nuclear ICBM: <span style='color:green'>Through the damn roof!</span>
I thought I had all I had to say both in the previous topic of this that was posted, as well as on my Xanga. But it just crossed my mind again after having seen A Clockwork Orange recently.
Get these parents some midget sized androids, because that's what they're looking for; I wouldn't recommend pets though, because even animals have a mind of their own sometimes...
<!--QuoteBegin--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->2. One night, as my group and I were leaving the dining hall, I asked my group’s supervisor, or father, if I could go see the nurse. He said yes and I turned right to go down a breezeway to the nurse station. Behind me I could hear screams and sounds of what could only be called rioting coming from the female side of the facility, which is separated from the males side. One of the female staff members came running down the breezeway. She was crying and ran into (name withheld), and began speaking very fast. All I heard was "Get the nurse". They got the nurse and began to run to the gate, which separated the female’s side from the males. I could not see what had happened for the females side is also blocked by the female dorms. I walked out into the male’s inner courtyard and I soon made way to my group’s line. I was standing near the front of the line, which was near a small set of stairs leading to the playing field and the clothes line area. A group of staff ran by and down the stairs towards the line area. At this time I noticed that four groups, nearly 120 students were left completely unsupervised. The staff that had ran down the stairs was now running back with armloads of towels. They ran through the courtyard and back through the gate to the female side of the facility. About five minutes later, the staff that was supervising our group came back and led us out to the field. On the field I had a clear view of the female inner courtyard and I saw a large spot of blood on the ground. One of the female students had jumped from the roof of the building and killed herself. A student on the higher levels named (name withheld) was standing about fifteen feet away from me with an armload of about five or six towels. One of these towels was mine. He gave it to me and on it was <b>a spot of blood about the size of a dinner plate and some hair of the girl who had jumped</b>. The staff had used my towel to pick her up and put her in a car to go to the hospital, and gave it back to me to use. Later that night, I went to my group father, and informed him of this. He told me to not worry about it and <u>did nothing about it</u>. This was my only towel. For three weeks <u>I had to use that towel</u> to dry myself off and staff would not do a thing about it until my mother got the letter I sent her the day after the girl jumped and told my case manager to get me another towel. This was three weeks after the girl killed herself.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
I don't think I want to know the reaction of that girl's parents, otherwise I'd have a strong urge to hurt them.
Wow.....................I keep a rather large very sharp samurai sword in my room on a pretty wooden stand, had my dad’s friend, who’s a marine stationed in Japan, send it to me.
I would not hesitate in the slightest to decapitate any large Jamaican men I find trying to break into my room at night. I mean that....
I can't put into words how much that....wow...
Of course my mom’s not insane….but I almost wish those **** would give me the chance…
Hm, that was an interesting article. Correct me if I am wrong, but the program goes a little something like this: Kidnap a child (With their parents consent, it is still kidnapping.), drag him or her off to Jamaica and then completely control their way of life for a year or more.
<!--QuoteBegin--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->The first most teenagers hear of Tranquility is therefore when they are woken from their beds at home at 4am by guards, who place them in a van, handcuffed if necessary, drive them to an airport and fly them to Jamaica. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
At times I thank God (Even though my own belief structure is weak, at best) for the parents I have, they may not be perfect but I think they did their job pretty well. They gave me a firm set of morals and an idea of virtue, respect for hard work and just about everything else I've ever needed. I curse like a sailor, occasionally drink, play violent video games and have, from time to time, engaged in a fistfight. It pains me to believe that for any one of those aforementioned things, my parents could ship me off to this "facility" for reprogramming. It was stated before that a child could get away with just acting good- well, eventually that act just turns into every day life and he or she has been effectively transformed.
I cannot imagine a child so unruly, so.. utterly terrible, that he or she would deserve treatment like this. In America we have a word for places like Quantanimo Bay.. I mean Tranquility Bay, and that word is Prison. The fact that the American Government would allow its own children (Woop, looks like they don't care- still.) to be shipped off to some hell hole is almost worse than the realization that the parents are the only ones responsible.
My friends, we live in a truly sad and pitiful age where all of the Good in the World is immediately overshadowed by such a heinous thing such as this. For some, the idea of sending children to this reeducation center is fine. For others, like so many of you I've seen here, it is evil. And yes, it is evil- to force these kids to become something they don't want to, to make them into slaves of their parents- Don't get me wrong, you should listen to your parents and do the chores.. take out the trash. Help out around the house. But that is for the sake of helping, not waiting on your parents. The "behaviour modification center" is only trying t force kids to become nothing more than obediant slaves for wealthy people who didn't spend time with their children when they were young.
Now, bear with me here. I think that many 'unruly teenagers' come from innercity families- These parents probably work two jobs just for food let alone sending their kids off to some hardcore rehab center. As I stated earlier, the only people sending their kids to this place are the wealthy- it is a poor substitute for parenting. These kids have less freedom than convicted murderers- and for what? Having Sex? Getting into a fight at school?
<!--QuoteBegin--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->Jim Mozingo got the result he wanted. Twenty months after sending his son Josh away, he arrived from North Carolina to collect him. Mozingo has four sons, an insurance company, and is a good example of a typical Tranquility parent. Divorced from Josh's mother, busy, wealthy, he found Tranquility by typing 'defiant teen' into the internet.
'I tell you, I was at my wits' end with my son. We'd tried military school, but he got kicked out. He never got into trouble with the police. He was one step from that. What it was is, he was going through this identity crisis. Peer pressure. Pot got involved.'<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Good job Mister Jim Mozingo, it looks like you had a rebelling teenage boy before you sent him to brainwash camp!
Zero tolerance, it looks like Mr. Jay Kay, the college dropout in charge, and his Tranquility Bay center are both on your side.
In conclusion.. all of you guys joking about sieging the school? If it becomes a reality, count me in. It's a shame our Government wouldn't do anything like that- but I bet if we word a letter properly President Bush would add it to the axis of Evil.
Count me in for the raiding party. <!--emo&::asrifle::--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/asrifle.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='asrifle.gif'><!--endemo-->
<!--QuoteBegin--Bosnian+Dec 30 2003, 01:20 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Bosnian @ Dec 30 2003, 01:20 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> I'm just going to assume that these kids aren't exactly the perfect little angels you guys have pictured in your minds. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> You keep making that assumption and strawman. It makes you look like a tard, since you conveniently ignore that they subject kids to treatment that not even the most severe of US prisons would impose on their prisoners.
Those of you who defend this facility, seek help ASAP, or don't bring children into the world. I'd hate to think of what you'd do to them.
<!--QuoteBegin--Bosnian+Dec 30 2003, 01:20 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Bosnian @ Dec 30 2003, 01:20 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> I'm just going to assume that these kids aren't exactly the perfect little angels you guys have pictured in your minds. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> If anyone should be sent to re-programming camp its the parents who don't care about their children enough to raise them properly
<!--QuoteBegin--Bosnian+Dec 30 2003, 01:20 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Bosnian @ Dec 30 2003, 01:20 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> I'm just going to assume that these kids aren't exactly the perfect little angels you guys have pictured in your minds. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> Did you even read the article? They list some of the things kids have been sent there for, and they are NOT deserving of the treatment there.
Ok, let's step back for a second and look at this OBJECTIVELY. - Really bad kid whose parents can't control is doing lots of bad things - Parents have an extra $3400 (a month) to spend. - Parents send bad kid who they can't control to Jamaica. - Kid stays there for one or more years. - Kid comes back a contributing member of society. <-------
Seems like a good program. If we could send all of the nation's kids there (or a camp like that) at the same time, I doubt we we would have to worry about things like gangs, prostitution, John Lee Malvos, etc. However, not all the nation's kids are evil, uncontrollable, undisciplined "children" who have no respect for authority. The only bad thing that I can see is wrong with the place is that not all the Tranquility Bay natives actually deserve to be there. Other then that, Tranquility Bay takes our socialite inepts and turns them into people whom you wouldn't mind going to work with, date, or befriend.
--Edit-- If only our prison systems were so successful.
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<!--QuoteBegin--Immacolata+Dec 30 2003, 10:19 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Immacolata @ Dec 30 2003, 10:19 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> But it's kind of too late to save the kids by reeducating their parents. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> Re-educate them by tranquilzing them, performing plastic surgery to make sure they don't look old. Then send them to Tranquility bay.....
Either that or re-education by hot lead
Count me in on the raiding party, I can either man 2 miniguns or a sniper rifle (I'd prefer the 2 miniguns...)
<!--QuoteBegin--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->Tranquility Bay takes our socialite inepts and turns them into people whom you wouldn't mind going to work with, date, or befriend. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Correction: It takes kids with inept parents and brainwashes them into people whom you wouldn't mind going to work with, date, or befriend. Lets not forget the host of deep psychological issues burned into their heads either.
Our prison systems aren't as successful because it is ILLEGAL to do that kind of stuff to people in the US. If a parent did that kind of stuff to their kids themselves it would be a perfectly clear cut case of child abuse and the parents would be off to prison in a flash. But if you pay someone in a foreign country to abuse your child is ok then?
<!--QuoteBegin--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> It takes kids with inept parents <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
That is only the case when the person got shipped off to Tranquility for a lousy reason. I'm refering to the people who just suck at society, resents all authority, and such.
<!--QuoteBegin--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->Lets not forget the host of deep psychological issues burned into their heads either.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Well, whatever. Just be glad you aren't one of them.
<!--QuoteBegin--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> But if you pay someone in a foreign country to abuse your child is ok then? <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Yes. Why do you think that fugitives always want to "cross the border?" Because they aren't in trouble with that government. The States can't do a thing if what you do (that is illegal in the U.S.) is in another country.
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Parents being sent ot a detention camp for "unruly behavior" which is determined by the KIDS - Oh boy it would be all over the news.Damn hypocrites......
Firstly that is a detention camp.Saying its a "rehabilation facility" or some crap is like saying auschwitz was a "Refugee Camp".
Secondly saying that any complaints by the kids are "manipulation" is BULL.Firstly,the facility is telling you "Look,our facility is 100% pure goodness.Anyone who says bad things about is manipulating you".Basically,they are telling you not to trust anything bad beng said about them.Funny,if Saddam had told the world not to believe the reports off gassing the kurds,mass executions,WMD,etc because they were "manipulation",the media would be all over it....but hey its american kids,who gives a damn right?
And the no media thing is again,bull.Thats like Saddam disallowing foreign journalists to report on Saddam's bad deeds because they "have no idea what it really is like" or some crap.Cant you see?They are COVERING IT UP.They dont want the media to see how bad the facility is.
That guy running the facility is a complete retard.....he tries to cover up all the bad stuff his faiclity does by substituting them with flowery words.Funny,i have never heard of someone telling the judge "Look sir,i didnt kill him,i was just ending his existence" and getting away scot-free.
They might as well build a facility in the USA,send out kidnap squads to grab adults,force them to sign a contract,and torture them for years.If the police try to shut it down,just tell them its a "rehabiliation facility","You dont know what you are talking about" and "Anything bad you have heard is a manipulation attempt".
And its bull...parents can send their kids there for ANYTHING.They can thereotically send their kids there for not providing sexual services to their parents.
Lets see.My parents are "unruly".I consider them "unruly".Maybe i should send my parents away to a facility like tranquility bay where they learn to be nice to their kid(me),and they come back in a couple of years,completely brainwashed into treating me like the ruler of the universe.
Get the point?THE FACILITY IS A BRAINWASHING DETENTION CAMP FOR PARENTS TO GET TRAINED OBEDIENT SERVANTS WHO WILL DO WHATEVER THEY ARE TOLD.
I mean sheesh its not bad enough that parents ALREADY have kids for the sole purpose of getting a nice source of income in their old age and having free servants(or rather,slaves),but now they have a facility to TRAIN them for parents....christus.....
i went there and turned out fine
... Here Mother do you awnt yer coffee...
(my moms been dead for ages)
/joke
Why? If they dont deserve respect they shouldnt get it, and their wishes shouldnt matter the <b>slightest</b>
P.S Jamil, I hate you so fu***** much it isn't funny.
*EDIT* I guess I may be a little harsh in evaluating this concentration camp, oops, I mean "behaviour correction facility" because I am an Anarchist. Therefore it goes against everything I stand for.
there is NO DUE PROCESS AT ALL...
Good lord...
I mean, criminals convicted to spend life in jail get a lawery, and a trial, and everything...
The parents just say, "Hey, I suck at parenting, I give" and pay up 40 Grand and send them away. Like unwanted baggage.
However, I still wonder, who is keeping tabs on this crap?
It sounds to me like physical abuse, sexual harrasment, rape, or anything could happen. Also it's definatly seems like a cruel and unsuall punishment.
My opinion of the US government: <span style='color:red'>Down 67 & 1/8th points.</span>
My desire to own a large non-nuclear ICBM: <span style='color:green'>Through the damn roof!</span>
Get these parents some midget sized androids, because that's what they're looking for; I wouldn't recommend pets though, because even animals have a mind of their own sometimes...
Now <b>this</b> is just sick...
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<!--QuoteBegin--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->2. One night, as my group and I were leaving the dining hall, I asked my group’s supervisor, or father, if I could go see the nurse. He said yes and I turned right to go down a breezeway to the nurse station. Behind me I could hear screams and sounds of what could only be called rioting coming from the female side of the facility, which is separated from the males side. One of the female staff members came running down the breezeway. She was crying and ran into (name withheld), and began speaking very fast. All I heard was "Get the nurse". They got the nurse and began to run to the gate, which separated the female’s side from the males. I could not see what had happened for the females side is also blocked by the female dorms. I walked out into the male’s inner courtyard and I soon made way to my group’s line. I was standing near the front of the line, which was near a small set of stairs leading to the playing field and the clothes line area. A group of staff ran by and down the stairs towards the line area. At this time I noticed that four groups, nearly 120 students were left completely unsupervised. The staff that had ran down the stairs was now running back with armloads of towels. They ran through the courtyard and back through the gate to the female side of the facility. About five minutes later, the staff that was supervising our group came back and led us out to the field. On the field I had a clear view of the female inner courtyard and I saw a large spot of blood on the ground. One of the female students had jumped from the roof of the building and killed herself. A student on the higher levels named (name withheld) was standing about fifteen feet away from me with an armload of about five or six towels. One of these towels was mine. He gave it to me and on it was <b>a spot of blood about the size of a dinner plate and some hair of the girl who had jumped</b>. The staff had used my towel to pick her up and put her in a car to go to the hospital, and gave it back to me to use. Later that night, I went to my group father, and informed him of this. He told me to not worry about it and <u>did nothing about it</u>. This was my only towel. For three weeks <u>I had to use that towel</u> to dry myself off and staff would not do a thing about it until my mother got the letter I sent her the day after the girl jumped and told my case manager to get me another towel. This was three weeks after the girl killed herself.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
I don't think I want to know the reaction of that girl's parents, otherwise I'd have a strong urge to hurt them.
I would not hesitate in the slightest to decapitate any large Jamaican men I find trying to break into my room at night. I mean that....
I can't put into words how much that....wow...
Of course my mom’s not insane….but I almost wish those **** would give me the chance…
it sounds kind of over the top.
especially the blood on the towel thing.
maybe its a tale designed to scare kids into behaving; "Do the dishs, or ill send your **** to tranquility"
[/paranoid theory]
Note: I like the idea of the military siege idea.
One question though:
Can I be com? I'm good with the medpack spam.
<!--QuoteBegin--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->The first most teenagers hear of Tranquility is therefore when they are woken from their beds at home at 4am by guards, who place them in a van, handcuffed if necessary, drive them to an airport and fly them to Jamaica. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
At times I thank God (Even though my own belief structure is weak, at best) for the parents I have, they may not be perfect but I think they did their job pretty well. They gave me a firm set of morals and an idea of virtue, respect for hard work and just about everything else I've ever needed. I curse like a sailor, occasionally drink, play violent video games and have, from time to time, engaged in a fistfight. It pains me to believe that for any one of those aforementioned things, my parents could ship me off to this "facility" for reprogramming. It was stated before that a child could get away with just acting good- well, eventually that act just turns into every day life and he or she has been effectively transformed.
I cannot imagine a child so unruly, so.. utterly terrible, that he or she would deserve treatment like this. In America we have a word for places like Quantanimo Bay.. I mean Tranquility Bay, and that word is Prison. The fact that the American Government would allow its own children (Woop, looks like they don't care- still.) to be shipped off to some hell hole is almost worse than the realization that the parents are the only ones responsible.
My friends, we live in a truly sad and pitiful age where all of the Good in the World is immediately overshadowed by such a heinous thing such as this. For some, the idea of sending children to this reeducation center is fine. For others, like so many of you I've seen here, it is evil. And yes, it is evil- to force these kids to become something they don't want to, to make them into slaves of their parents- Don't get me wrong, you should listen to your parents and do the chores.. take out the trash. Help out around the house. But that is for the sake of helping, not waiting on your parents. The "behaviour modification center" is only trying t force kids to become nothing more than obediant slaves for wealthy people who didn't spend time with their children when they were young.
Now, bear with me here. I think that many 'unruly teenagers' come from innercity families- These parents probably work two jobs just for food let alone sending their kids off to some hardcore rehab center. As I stated earlier, the only people sending their kids to this place are the wealthy- it is a poor substitute for parenting. These kids have less freedom than convicted murderers- and for what? Having Sex? Getting into a fight at school?
<!--QuoteBegin--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->Jim Mozingo got the result he wanted. Twenty months after sending his son Josh away, he arrived from North Carolina to collect him. Mozingo has four sons, an insurance company, and is a good example of a typical Tranquility parent. Divorced from Josh's mother, busy, wealthy, he found Tranquility by typing 'defiant teen' into the internet.
'I tell you, I was at my wits' end with my son. We'd tried military school, but he got kicked out. He never got into trouble with the police. He was one step from that. What it was is, he was going through this identity crisis. Peer pressure. Pot got involved.'<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Good job Mister Jim Mozingo, it looks like you had a rebelling teenage boy before you sent him to brainwash camp!
Zero tolerance, it looks like Mr. Jay Kay, the college dropout in charge, and his Tranquility Bay center are both on your side.
In conclusion.. all of you guys joking about sieging the school? If it becomes a reality, count me in. It's a shame our Government wouldn't do anything like that- but I bet if we word a letter properly President Bush would add it to the axis of Evil.
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You keep making that assumption and strawman. It makes you look like a tard, since you conveniently ignore that they subject kids to treatment that not even the most severe of US prisons would impose on their prisoners.
Those of you who defend this facility, seek help ASAP, or don't bring children into the world. I'd hate to think of what you'd do to them.
If anyone should be sent to re-programming camp its the parents who don't care about their children enough to raise them properly
Did you even read the article? They list some of the things kids have been sent there for, and they are NOT deserving of the treatment there.
- Really bad kid whose parents can't control is doing lots of bad things
- Parents have an extra $3400 (a month) to spend.
- Parents send bad kid who they can't control to Jamaica.
- Kid stays there for one or more years.
- Kid comes back a contributing member of society. <-------
Seems like a good program. If we could send all of the nation's kids there (or a camp like that) at the same time, I doubt we we would have to worry about things like gangs, prostitution, John Lee Malvos, etc. However, not all the nation's kids are evil, uncontrollable, undisciplined "children" who have no respect for authority.
The only bad thing that I can see is wrong with the place is that not all the Tranquility Bay natives actually deserve to be there. Other then that, Tranquility Bay takes our socialite inepts and turns them into people whom you wouldn't mind going to work with, date, or befriend.
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If only our prison systems were so successful.
Re-educate them by tranquilzing them, performing plastic surgery to make sure they don't look old. Then send them to Tranquility bay.....
Either that or re-education by hot lead
Count me in on the raiding party, I can either man 2 miniguns or a sniper rifle (I'd prefer the 2 miniguns...)
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Correction: It takes kids with inept parents and brainwashes them into people whom you wouldn't mind going to work with, date, or befriend. Lets not forget the host of deep psychological issues burned into their heads either.
Our prison systems aren't as successful because it is ILLEGAL to do that kind of stuff to people in the US. If a parent did that kind of stuff to their kids themselves it would be a perfectly clear cut case of child abuse and the parents would be off to prison in a flash. But if you pay someone in a foreign country to abuse your child is ok then?
That is only the case when the person got shipped off to Tranquility for a lousy reason. I'm refering to the people who just suck at society, resents all authority, and such.
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Well, whatever. Just be glad you aren't one of them.
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Yes. Why do you think that fugitives always want to "cross the border?" Because they aren't in trouble with that government. The States can't do a thing if what you do (that is illegal in the U.S.) is in another country.