Yea, So...

Absolut_SkulkAbsolut_Skulk Join Date: 2004-01-19 Member: 25486Members
edited January 2004 in NS General Discussion
<div class="IPBDescription">NSArmslab question</div> Yea, so i went to the NSArmslab website, and i was looking at it, and i could not find a downloads/skins page.... So i tried signing up, only the signing up link wont work... Any ideas? Because i had heard armslab was the place to go for skins, and i cant find many at all...
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  • SiDSquishySiDSquishy Join Date: 2003-10-15 Member: 21704Members
    One) This is not the place to ask

    Two) skins are lame
  • esunaesuna Rock Bottom Join Date: 2003-04-03 Member: 15175Members, Constellation
    <!--QuoteBegin--Absolut_Skulk+Jan 20 2004, 12:07 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Absolut_Skulk @ Jan 20 2004, 12:07 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Yea, so i went to the NSArmslab website, and i was looking at it, and i could not find a downloads/skins page.... So i tried signing up, only the signing up link wont work... Any ideas? Because i had heard armslab was the place to go for skins, and i cant find many at all... <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    You'd be better off posting this in the NS Customisation forum since a few of their members post there. But believe me, they're entirely against changing their site to be useable. The amount of times a number of people, myself included, have tried to convince them that their interface is poor, is ridiculous, and they've refused to budge with it because apparently, obviously according to them, style > content.

    If you want replacement skins or models, hit <a href='http://www.thrill2kill.com/' target='_blank'>T2K</a>, it's easy to use and a much better site on the whole.
  • BigBullBigBull Join Date: 2003-04-02 Member: 15123Members
    edited January 2004
    suck my <span style='color:green'>Ill be nice... </span>esnua you do somehting


    its called "Custom Detail btw"
  • CornCorn Join Date: 2003-11-24 Member: 23499Members, Constellation
    First off, if you are blind, its not our problem. And, I went to thrill2kill, and sometimes the website is unstable, and you have to refresh a couple of times. And, the amount of skins they have is like half the amount that we have, plus we just started up 2 months ago and yet we have more hits on our site than any other site had at the 3 mo mark. So stop bashing and look at the facts. <!--emo&???--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/confused.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='confused.gif'><!--endemo-->
  • inveigleinveigle Join Date: 2004-01-07 Member: 25117Members, Constellation, NS2 Playtester, Reinforced - Shadow, WC 2013 - Supporter
    edited January 2004
    I never had a problem finding the models section. Armslab is one of the best custom sites, and they update quite often. Keep up the good work brothers.
  • OnepieceOnepiece Join Date: 2003-08-14 Member: 19706Members, Constellation
    Ok This is clearly u trying to flame on NSA i dono wats ur problem is but ive been using that site and never had any prob with it. most ppl that i know also had no prob with i dono who are the ppls that had prob but maybe they should learn how to use the internet.
  • WolfensteinWolfenstein Join Date: 2003-04-07 Member: 15288Members
    Well, times are changing, and we need something new, so the interface at NSA is nicely done for something new. I go to other sites and I get confused easily as well, because I don't know them. Spend some time on the NSA site playing with the buttons and navagter compass and you'll see how well it was put together so far.

    For a restart from the old one, it takes a while getting things completed due to problems.

    If you really don't like to look at the plain old skins that NS provides, that is when you come to NSA and look at the growing selection of Skins in Custom Detail. Hince the name. We have over 50 items so far, and a growing number of packs coming out. you might one, or like another better, Check them out, and download what you like. I personally like using them because they're a lot easier on me in many cases. Such as the Hellonos, and impact rifle. Check them out at <a href='http://www.nsarmslab.com/flash/custom.php' target='_blank'>http://www.nsarmslab.com/flash/custom.php</a> and download some. Try them out, I think y'all might like them.

    - Wolfenstein
  • LastLast Join Date: 2003-10-06 Member: 21463Members
    Esuna: what's gotten on your **** today?

    NSA is fine... I just feel that they're taking the wrong approach to a "community site" by hiring a web designer, not to mention charging $7 for "subscriptions."
  • UnderDOGUnderDOG Join Date: 2003-04-05 Member: 15221Members
    edited January 2004
    I dont think that its that hard to find the section, its right there on the homepage, custom detail.


    also, esuna, if you have been to the site since the new year, youll see that since then the majority of the site has been converted to html because of the numerous requests.

    edit: last, the subscribtoin is primairly for a reserved slot and other features on our 2 NS servers.
  • MehMeh Join Date: 2003-07-08 Member: 18043Members
    edited January 2004
    Ok NSA is a amazing site first off and easy to access. T2K i tried going to and it was unstable and NSA has best custom models. THey are doing something different. They are doing a competiiton as we speak. They mix stuff up. Just cuz its different and new, and freash, dont mean hate
  • BigBullBigBull Join Date: 2003-04-02 Member: 15123Members
    <!--QuoteBegin--Last.+Jan 19 2004, 07:59 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Last. @ Jan 19 2004, 07:59 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Esuna: what's gotten on your **** today?

    NSA is fine... I just feel that they're taking the wrong approach to a "community site" by hiring a web designer, not to mention charging $7 for "subscriptions." <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    If you guys read.

    We ddint higher a webdeisner. Thats the owner and my self.

    ANd subscription is reserved slot for the server..
  • DarkDudeDarkDude Join Date: 2003-08-06 Member: 19088Members
    edited January 2004
    Stop the fighting for ****s sake. He asked a question and you've turned into a flame fest about which site is better. Now, I'm no skins expert but there's no way you're going to get anybody going to either site if you start flaming each left and right. IMO, armslab is one of te best NS customization sites out there and I haven't had any problems with it, my best advice would be to check your browser setting and put your security down 1-2 levels. (if you have IE) Hopefully that will work, if not, just keep trying.

    *Edit* You're also not giving the NS community a very good look, newbies frequent this forum and starting wars like this isn't exactly the best greeting. *Edit*
  • BigBullBigBull Join Date: 2003-04-02 Member: 15123Members
    I just mad cuz esuna has done this before when someone asks a simple question.
  • CornCorn Join Date: 2003-11-24 Member: 23499Members, Constellation
    Guys, calm down. The 7 dollars is for keeping the server up, because noone has unlimited money, and in return we give the person benifits, like early access to stuff and a reserved slot. It is not that different from constellation, and as for the webdesigner thing, the webdesigner is one of the owners of the community and is quite active.
  • esunaesuna Rock Bottom Join Date: 2003-04-03 Member: 15175Members, Constellation
    <!--QuoteBegin--BigBull+Jan 20 2004, 01:05 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (BigBull @ Jan 20 2004, 01:05 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> I just mad cuz esuna has done this before when someone asks a simple question. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Guess why i've done it, because you've ignored several respected members of this community who have offered <b>friendly</b>, <b>well written constructive criticism</b>, not just ignored, sometimes you've even had the audacity to flame back as well. I'm sorry if i've offended you, but guess what, i'm entitled to my own opinion, and i don't have to go around insulting people to get that across.

    And whats more, your childish responses only further incriminate yourself and tarnish whatever "reputation" you have.
  • itsmemoitsmemo Join Date: 2003-07-17 Member: 18232Members, Constellation
    edited January 2004
    No matter how many "respected" people tell them to change the site in any shape or form doesnt mean they should, its thier site, let them do what they want with it. Im sure you wouldnt want someone telling you to change your site to someones liking..

    /edit spelling
  • esunaesuna Rock Bottom Join Date: 2003-04-03 Member: 15175Members, Constellation
    <!--QuoteBegin--zerg_queen+Jan 20 2004, 02:01 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (zerg_queen @ Jan 20 2004, 02:01 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> No matter how many "respected" people tell them to change the site in any shape or form doesnt mean they should, its thier site, let them do what they want with it. Im sure you wouldnt want someone telling you to change your site to someones liking..

    /edit spelling <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    I didn't once say "You must change it now". There's a thing called constructive criticism. We offered our experienced opinions onto the site, most of which was positive i might add, but raised by several people was the interface and how it's not user friendly. When several people start to comment on the fact that it's difficult to navigate, as a designer, you look into that fact.

    The whole point of a website is getting as many people to look at it as possible, if people aren't visiting, you're site is, essentially, a waste of money. Therefore as the designer you <b>should</b> be open to any improvements that can be made, and if several people are having the same problem, that's a problem you should look into, not flame them because they are having.

    Constructive criticism is one of the building blocks of a website and one of the single most useful things during the development of one. To be honest, any designer which ignores the opinions of others, be they other designers or their target audience, is not a good designer. Especially so if the same issue is raised several times by entirely seperate people.
  • BigBullBigBull Join Date: 2003-04-02 Member: 15123Members
    edited January 2004
    If you read the other topics you flamed. I said we are working on it. which we are.

    I can't drop everything on your request.

    Too busy doing competitions and stuff for the server. I have listened to your critiscm about the site. I have taken it into account, but yet when i say this, you still go on.
    Whats the point? Why dont you just stay out of topics like this to prevent what just happened.\\


    btw people do visit the site WTH. Over a mill hits this month. Average 7,500 visits a day.


    Would you change your hardwork on a dime because 10 percent of the people say so?

    And we are doing it anyway?
  • esunaesuna Rock Bottom Join Date: 2003-04-03 Member: 15175Members, Constellation
    edited January 2004
    <!--QuoteBegin--BigBull+Jan 20 2004, 02:13 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (BigBull @ Jan 20 2004, 02:13 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> If you read the other topics you flamed. I said we are working on it. which we are.

    I can't drop everything on your request.

    Too busy doing competitions and stuff for the server.  I have listened to your critiscm about the site. I have taken it into account, but yet when i say this, you still go on.
    Whats the point? Why dont you just stay out of topics like this to prevent what just happened. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    "Prevent what just happened", you and your fanboys insulting me? You have never once said you are going to tackle the issue of the interface, infact, you've flamed me and other people. How about rather than me avoiding threads, how about you learn to hold your tongue and realise i'm not flaming you in the slightest, hell, i've said nothing derogatory about ANY of the staff, only the site itself.

    You have a hell of a lot of growing up to do, and if you have <b>any</b> hope to be in any way successful as a designer or webmaster you must learn that <b>the client and audience comes first</b>, not second, they're the people you want frequenting site, not you.

    The moral of this story, learn to take constructive criticism, and realise not everything diverted at your site is a personal attack on yourself.

    *EDIT:<!--QuoteBegin--BigBull+ Jan 20 2004, 02:13 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (BigBull @ Jan 20 2004, 02:13 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->btw people do visit the site WTH. Over a mill hits this month. Average 7,500 visits a day.


    Would you change your hardwork on a dime because 10 percent of the people say so?

    And we are doing it anyway?<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    I didn't once say your site isn't visited by people, so those stats are irrelevant. And yes, i would change my hardwork on a dime because 10% of people say, purely because as a website designer, you're not designing for yourself, as i said, you're designing for the client and the audience. If the client hates it, you redesign, no? If the audience hates it, you redesign? No? Since you do bring up those stats, however, at 10% of people that's 750 people a day and 100,000 people a month that are confused by your interface, that's a hell of a lot of people to neglect.
  • BigBullBigBull Join Date: 2003-04-02 Member: 15123Members
    edited January 2004
    10 percent was just an example...

    Did you just hear me!

    We ARE WORKING ON IT

    You grow up and stop thinking your right, and im wrong. I said we are working on it. Now its just bitching to make yourself look better.

    Fanboys?
    heh...?
  • esunaesuna Rock Bottom Join Date: 2003-04-03 Member: 15175Members, Constellation
    edited January 2004
    <!--QuoteBegin--BigBull+Jan 20 2004, 02:47 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (BigBull @ Jan 20 2004, 02:47 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->10 percent was just an example...

    Did you just hear me!

    We ARE WORKING ON IT

    You grow up and stop thinking your right, and im wrong. I said we are working on it. Now its just bitching to make yourself look better.

    Fanboys?
    heh...?<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    I'm speaking from experience and common sense, maybe a dash of arrogance too, but mainly the former two.

    <s>Let me see, i need to grow up because i..... hmm.... offered objective opinions and criticism?</s>

    <s>3 Things:</s>
    <s><li>Firstly, it's "you're", not "your". Infact, one of a multitude of spelling and gramatical errors. Don't they teach you kids anything in school?</s>
    <s><li>Whatever you're "Ill be nice" is, i will not partake in the sucking thereof....</s>
    <s><li>My name is spelt "esuna" and not "esnua"</s>

    I was going to post a list of nitpicks and petty issues, but i realised something, you're only 17. When you grow up you may learn more about the way the design world works from a professional point of view, since i doubt you've ever worked for an actual design firm, not one of those sit-at-home-playing-with-your-illegal-versions-of-photoshop-and-flash-and-claim-to-work-in-web-design-with-some-friend-from-high-school "design companies".

    I've just upgraded the dash of arrogance to a whole tablespoon. Go me.
  • lyndaklyndak God Join Date: 2002-11-13 Member: 8419Members, Constellation
    <!--QuoteBegin--esuna+Jan 19 2004, 07:34 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (esuna @ Jan 19 2004, 07:34 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin--Absolut_Skulk+Jan 20 2004, 12:07 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Absolut_Skulk @ Jan 20 2004, 12:07 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Yea, so i went to the NSArmslab website, and i was looking at it, and i could not find a downloads/skins page.... So i tried signing up, only the signing up link wont work...  Any ideas?  Because i had heard armslab was the place to go for skins, and i cant find many at all... <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    You'd be better off posting this in the NS Customisation forum since a few of their members post there. But believe me, they're entirely against changing their site to be useable. The amount of times a number of people, myself included, have tried to convince them that their interface is poor, is ridiculous, and they've refused to budge with it because apparently, obviously according to them, style > content.

    If you want replacement skins or models, hit <a href='http://www.thrill2kill.com/' target='_blank'>T2K</a>, it's easy to use and a much better site on the whole. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    *cough* Indeed */cough*
  • GlissGliss Join Date: 2003-03-23 Member: 14800Members, Constellation, NS2 Map Tester
    edited January 2004
    Though NSA is quite fancy, I will have to agree with esunaer (I think I'm going to call you that forever). It said to click, drag, and rotate the nagivation. I thought it meant to click the Arms Lab. I spent about 3 minutes clicking and trying to drag it, trying to get to the other menus, moving my mouse around like an idiot, until I accidentaly clicked the outside and it rotated. A simple list would be easier. Though I'm sure most of the people aren't retards like me, I think some will agree it's much easier to design a fancy button than use that.
    Also, the enter screen. The button should be the picture. Though the 'Enter' text is pretty easy to notice, usually people click the picture to gain access to the site. I'm not sure how this is done, but I remember doing it in Flash (which, unless I'm mistaken, is what most of the site is made of?).

    Esunaer's right, by the way. BigBull is the one that is flaming, but nonetheless you should both stop arguing.

    [edit] Some of the credits are messed up on NSA. Windelkron made the Devour sprite, the R in Jaeger is missing for High-Poly shells, coil should <b>nevar</b> be capitalized <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif'><!--endemo-->, and I thought that Jaeger made the TSA Desert Eagle? Oh well. [/edit]

    Oh, and to answer the original poster's question, go over to the area that says Home on the right side. Click somewhere in the white area and move your mouse around; other selections should appear.
  • briktalbriktal Join Date: 2003-08-20 Member: 20021Members, Constellation
    mw I think some people need to calm down.

    But, to be honest, it is a little confusing, just to understand how to rotate it, and what you are actually clicking on.

    Anyway, lalalala
  • Jean_Luc_PicardJean_Luc_Picard Join Date: 2003-02-03 Member: 13051Members
    Play nice kiddies <!--emo&???--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/confused.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='confused.gif'><!--endemo--> <!--emo&;)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/wink.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wink.gif'><!--endemo-->
  • EpidemicEpidemic Dark Force Gorge Join Date: 2003-06-29 Member: 17781Members
    edited January 2004
    <!--QuoteBegin--BigBull+Jan 20 2004, 03:13 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (BigBull @ Jan 20 2004, 03:13 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Over a mill hits this month. Average 7,500 visits a day.

    <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Your hits counter must be broken, 60 (2 months) * 7,500 = 450000
    That's not a million. Besides 1 million sounds abit like some of your fan bois uses their day constantly refreshing you site <!--emo&;)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/wink.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wink.gif'><!--endemo-->

    Also Esuna might be alittle rough at times (dahm you for not liking Retales comics!)
  • HazeHaze O RLY? Join Date: 2003-07-07 Member: 18018Members, Constellation
    edited January 2004
    People should stop arguing. They're two different sites -- let people choose where they want to go to, or, heaven might I even speak the words, go to <b><i>both?</b></i>

    I know it sounds farfetched, but it might actually work.
    EDIT:: lol they took my advice with the words above the navigation bar "Click and hold to rotate" or something to that extent. Go me!
  • LastLast Join Date: 2003-10-06 Member: 21463Members
    esuna: either someone has had their "thing" up your "hole" all day, or you have a serious problem with letting go of issues and admitting that you were wrong. I've had my doubts about NSA's ethics and staff *cough* qwertyaccess! *cough* but underdog and the other guy have cleared them up. Since you seem to be ignoring their comments, I can only assume that you have something against bigbull. Considering the way he mashes up the english language, I don't blame you. But FFS, keep it to yourself <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif'><!--endemo-->.
  • BigBullBigBull Join Date: 2003-04-02 Member: 15123Members
    Yes my grammar skill were poor for the duration of this topic. The thing about is, taking cheapshots at my fault during it, doesn't help the cause?

    Anyway, if you guys read, it will remove the trouble.

    1.) We are doing it.
    2.) We are doing it
    3.) We are fixing it.

    4.) Read the n00b directions.
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  • JezpuhJezpuh Join Date: 2003-04-03 Member: 15157Banned
    Esuna is just telling them how messy everything is <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif'><!--endemo-->
    Wich is, in my opinion.
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