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<!--QuoteBegin-Ollj+Feb 23 2004, 04:15 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Ollj @ Feb 23 2004, 04:15 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> With ff on onoses can devour other players, including other onoses. The digesting onos gets heal from the digested alien. the digested alien can regen inside of the onos and supply it for a long time, infinite time next to a hive or defense chambers.
Im not sure if a digesting onos can be digested from another onos so that there are 2 players in one onos. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> What are you talking about?
<!--QuoteBegin-Ollj+Feb 23 2004, 04:15 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Ollj @ Feb 23 2004, 04:15 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->With ff on onoses can devour other players, including other onoses. The digesting onos gets heal from the digested alien. the digested alien can regen inside of the onos and supply it for a long time, infinite time next to a hive or defense chambers.
Im not sure if a digesting onos can be digested from another onos so that there are 2 players in one onos.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> Please disregard the comments this player makes towards Friendly Fire. I realize he is a generally-well respected member of the NS community, and that he is credited on ns_origin, but his viewpoints on FF in NS are COMPLETELY wrong and when he is on a Friendly Fire enabled server his conduct is completely unacceptable.
He joined a full public server with friendlyfire enabled and then proceeded to TK his teammates, and shoot the IPs to death. He was first told FF was on, and that he was damaging said structures, and as he refused to stop the attitude towards him became increasingly hostile. I left the game to try to find some admins, but before I left he sent a message to the extent of: Friendly fire is ok for Combat but is NEVER good in regular NS. Which should speak volumes as to his understanding of FF, and potentially NS in general.
<!--QuoteBegin-Warfare+Feb 26 2004, 06:17 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Warfare @ Feb 26 2004, 06:17 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> In my opinion, NS isn't designed for Friendly Fire. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> The server I play on has had friendly fire enabled for around 6 months (we used to use mp_tournamentmode 1 when it was still 2.01) and it plays very very well. It requires the players on the server to be more aware of what they are attacking, and I honestly believe that just playing with it on makes you a much better player in general.
I don't think its a great idea for begining players, or people who can't restrain themselves, but if you have a large regular player base with a good set of admins on your server it can work very well.
what the guy above me said really, on a good server with regular players it can work really well.
I'd have to say that ff does not suit combat though, and nor does it on a random pub - as half the time you'll be unable to fire for the headless chickens running around infront of you D:
servers:
ntfm runs reg nights twice a week with ff and tourney on (www.ntfm.org)
skulkrush servers also run ff, though the level of play there can be a bit hit and miss (or rather miss them, hit you)
I made this question in 2.1 and wonder if things have changed in 3.0: do charge, leap, xenocide and spore cloud harm you teammates when FF is on? And bile bomb, does it harm your structures? Do mines explode when you fire/throw a grenade on then?
Charge, leap and Xenocide all, without a doubt, do damage to friendly players and/or structures. Spores do NOT do friendly fire damage as they would probably be completely useless if they did. Bilebomb will damage friendly structures (though, like all FF, they only take damage at 1/3 the rate the attack would normally do). Marine fire can set off mines and the resulting explosion will cause damage to nearby structures/lifeforms (both hostile and friendly). To detonate a mine with a grenade (either from a GL or a just a hand nade) the nade needs to either make direct contact with the mine, setting both of them off on contact, or the grenade needs to basically come to rest within a foot or so of the mine to cause it to explode.
Id love to see FF on by default, u can kill a few marines with heavy weapons as skulk. u just leap into the middle of them and let them rip each other up. It just means marines actually need to think before they shoot.
<!--QuoteBegin-JazzX+Feb 27 2004, 12:38 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (JazzX @ Feb 27 2004, 12:38 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Charge, leap and Xenocide all, without a doubt, do damage to friendly players and/or structures. [...] Bilebomb will damage friendly structures <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> Bilebomb and xeno do NO friendly fire damage.
Stop throwing stones at Ollj; he is a fun guy. Woof woof! <!--emo&;)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/wink.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wink.gif' /><!--endemo-->
<!--QuoteBegin-nu11+Feb 19 2004, 08:07 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (nu11 @ Feb 19 2004, 08:07 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> I'm getting too annoyed with all the nade spammers just tossing nades in any direction and want to play some FF servers so that they might think before spamming away. Anyone know of any good ones? <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> I said nades would be spammed but no body lissened, you would think someone woukd have played a multi-player game with nades before...
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The digesting onos gets heal from the digested alien.
the digested alien can regen inside of the onos and supply it for a long time, infinite time next to a hive or defense chambers.
Im not sure if a digesting onos can be digested from another onos so that there are 2 players in one onos. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
What are you talking about?
You cannot eat other aliens
Poor marines. You kill one and unveil the layers beneath. It's like an onion, the more you peel it the more it makes you cry.
<!--QuoteBegin--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->What are you talking about?
You cannot eat other aliens<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Party pooper!
The digesting onos gets heal from the digested alien.
the digested alien can regen inside of the onos and supply it for a long time, infinite time next to a hive or defense chambers.
Im not sure if a digesting onos can be digested from another onos so that there are 2 players in one onos.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Please disregard the comments this player makes towards Friendly Fire. I realize he is a generally-well respected member of the NS community, and that he is credited on ns_origin, but his viewpoints on FF in NS are COMPLETELY wrong and when he is on a Friendly Fire enabled server his conduct is completely unacceptable.
He joined a full public server with friendlyfire enabled and then proceeded to TK his teammates, and shoot the IPs to death. He was first told FF was on, and that he was damaging said structures, and as he refused to stop the attitude towards him became increasingly hostile. I left the game to try to find some admins, but before I left he sent a message to the extent of: Friendly fire is ok for Combat but is NEVER good in regular NS. Which should speak volumes as to his understanding of FF, and potentially NS in general.
The server I play on has had friendly fire enabled for around 6 months (we used to use mp_tournamentmode 1 when it was still 2.01) and it plays very very well. It requires the players on the server to be more aware of what they are attacking, and I honestly believe that just playing with it on makes you a much better player in general.
I don't think its a great idea for begining players, or people who can't restrain themselves, but if you have a large regular player base with a good set of admins on your server it can work very well.
I'd have to say that ff does not suit combat though, and nor does it on a random pub - as half the time you'll be unable to fire for the headless chickens running around infront of you D:
servers:
ntfm runs reg nights twice a week with ff and tourney on (www.ntfm.org)
skulkrush servers also run ff, though the level of play there can be a bit hit and miss (or rather miss them, hit you)
Bilebomb and xeno do NO friendly fire damage.
Stop throwing stones at Ollj; he is a fun guy. Woof woof! <!--emo&;)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/wink.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wink.gif' /><!--endemo-->
I said nades would be spammed but no body lissened, you would think someone woukd have played a multi-player game with nades before...