Ghost Rider

XythXyth Avatar Join Date: 2003-11-04 Member: 22312Members
<div class="IPBDescription">Is SO BAD</div>Seriously, I just got back from watching this. Oh my god.
The CG was pretty cool (Fire! Motorcycles! Motorcycles on fire! People on fire!). However that is pretty much all this movie has going for it. The movie is chock-full of terribly cliche movie quotes that you can see coming for a mile (#Spoiler maybe?# <!--coloro:#000000--><span style="color:#000000"><!--/coloro-->"I may not have a soul, <i>but I have my spirit</i>"<!--colorc--></span><!--/colorc--> #Spoiler maybe?#).

So, you might say: "Well the dialogue may be bad, but it is an <i>action</i> movie", or atleast that's what I said to myself. However, <i>every fight scene in the movie lasts 15 seconds tops</i>. Im not (under?)exaggerating. For example:

#Spoiler, even though it's from like the first 30 minutes#

<!--coloro:#000000--><span style="color:#000000"><!--/coloro-->When he fights some like earth elemental bad guy, this is how it goes. He confronts the bad guy (they exchange typical bad guy / good guy 1 liners; example: "Im sending you back to hell!"). Mid sentence he gets hit by a truck, being driven by earth elemental guy. Captain planet gets out of the vehicle and goes "Well he ain't so tough". 2 seconds past while the camera zooms onto the front of the smashed truck (DURR I WONDER WHAT'S GUNNA HAPPEN). Ghost rider pops out. Now here is where the "Fight" starts. Ghost rider pulls out his burning chain of doom, twirls it twice over his head and whips the guy with it. Boom, fight over. That's it. That's all. Good game no remake. From being confronted to Earth Elemental dude dying, it's like 15-20 seconds.
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#Spoiler, even though it's from like the first 30 minutes#

So I guess what Im trying to say is, even though Nicholas Cage is pretty cool and his acting was kind of interesting, the movie was still horrid. Oh god don't give them your money, because the ending is just <i>begging</i> for them to make another, and Im not sure if I could survive a second one.
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  • NeonSpyderNeonSpyder &quot;Das est NTLDR?&quot; Join Date: 2003-07-03 Member: 17913Members
    edited February 2007
    I agree on all points, the movie blew hard.

    <i>However</i> I must express how AWESOME I think the concept of Ghostrider is.

    Leather jacket wearing shotgun using flaming chain wielding FLAMING SKELETON INSTRUMENT OF VENGEANCE!

    If he wasn't a flaming skeleton of vengeance, I would have his babies.
  • douchebagatrondouchebagatron Custom member title Join Date: 2003-12-20 Member: 24581Members, Constellation, Reinforced - Shadow
    itd be better if he rode a ghost.
  • XythXyth Avatar Join Date: 2003-11-04 Member: 22312Members
    <!--quoteo(post=1607725:date=Feb 19 2007, 12:02 AM:name=6john)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(6john @ Feb 19 2007, 12:02 AM) [snapback]1607725[/snapback]</div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->
    itd be better if he rode a ghost.
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    Or perhaps if he was <b>ghost ridin'</b>.

    NeonSpyder: I agree the premise was pretty cool. Walking skeleton on fire who uses a whip made of burning metal? Pretty cool. They should have just made the entire movie him kicking ######, I would have liked it that much better.
  • LikuLiku I, am the Somberlain. Join Date: 2003-01-10 Member: 12128Members
    <!--quoteo(post=1607728:date=Feb 18 2007, 11:10 PM:name=Xyth)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Xyth @ Feb 18 2007, 11:10 PM) [snapback]1607728[/snapback]</div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->
    Or perhaps if he was <b>ghost ridin'</b>.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    What the hell's that even mean?
  • eedioteediot Join Date: 2003-02-24 Member: 13903Members
    <!--quoteo(post=1607766:date=Feb 19 2007, 09:13 PM:name=Liku)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Liku @ Feb 19 2007, 09:13 PM) [snapback]1607766[/snapback]</div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->
    What the hell's that even mean?
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    ... most non, non, non heinous.
  • DepotDepot The ModFather Join Date: 2002-11-09 Member: 7956Members
    Will .... wait .... for .... the .... video - thanks!
  • SloppyKissesSloppyKisses omgawd a furreh&#33; Virginia Join Date: 2003-07-05 Member: 17942Members, Constellation
    why would anyone want to go watch a movie where the previews sucked? I know it sucked, and i bet that all of you that spent to go see the movie thought it sucked, so why go anyway?

    The previews are horrible and retarded imo, let alone the plot sucks. This should be one of those movies that play on the sci-fi channel every weekend with all those other crappy movies that never made it to the big screen
  • DiscoZombieDiscoZombie Join Date: 2003-08-05 Member: 18951Members
    <!--quoteo(post=1607773:date=Feb 19 2007, 05:41 AM:name=Phur_Instinkt)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Phur_Instinkt @ Feb 19 2007, 05:41 AM) [snapback]1607773[/snapback]</div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->
    why would anyone want to go watch a movie where the previews sucked? I know it sucked, and i bet that all of you that spent to go see the movie thought it sucked, so why go anyway?

    The previews are horrible and retarded imo, let alone the plot sucks. This should be one of those movies that play on the sci-fi channel every weekend with all those other crappy movies that never made it to the big screen
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    it's true - previews usually have all the BEST clips of a movie, so if even the PREVIEWS are bad, you know the movie has to be terrible =p

    that said, yes, the concept of Ghost Rider is indeed awesome, so it's sad they didn't do something better with it.
  • pardzhpardzh Join Date: 2002-10-25 Member: 1601Members
    <!--quoteo(post=1607766:date=Feb 19 2007, 05:13 AM:name=Liku)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Liku @ Feb 19 2007, 05:13 AM) [snapback]1607766[/snapback]</div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->
    What the hell's that even mean?
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    Damn, you ain't be ghost ridin' the whip, dog?
  • NeonSpyderNeonSpyder &quot;Das est NTLDR?&quot; Join Date: 2003-07-03 Member: 17913Members
    One quick point: Ghostrider is one of those movies where if you don't have a giant cinema screen or thundering sound rippling through your entire soul, the lacklustre quality of the movie becomes more and more apparent. As long as the sound is thundering and the screen is bigger then your house, the points of failure are diminished.

    If you watch Ghostrider on the Sci-Fi channel 3 years from now when it's put on there, it will be the most boring piece of ish you've ever watched.
  • StarchyStarchy Join Date: 2003-04-21 Member: 15727Members, Constellation
    edited February 2007
    when you get a new car [ uh huh uh huh ]
    and ya feeling like a star [ ok ok ]
    what you gon do [ what cha gon do, what cha gon do ]
    GHOST RIDE IT
    ghost ride cha whip


    Anyway, Nicolas Cage is a bad bad bad actor, you shouldn't be surprised when one (all) of his movies is (are) bad.
  • UltimaGeckoUltimaGecko hates endnotes Join Date: 2003-05-14 Member: 16320Members
    <!--quoteo(post=1607883:date=Feb 19 2007, 03:57 PM:name=Starchy)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Starchy @ Feb 19 2007, 03:57 PM) [snapback]1607883[/snapback]</div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->
    when you get a new car [ uh huh uh huh ]
    and ya feeling like a star [ ok ok ]
    what you gon do [ what cha gon do, what cha gon do ]
    GHOST RIDE IT
    ghost ride cha whip
    Anyway, Nicolas Cage is a bad bad bad actor, you shouldn't be surprised when one (all) of his movies is (are) bad.
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    I thought the Rock was pretty good, but maybe it's just the way Sean Connery says "Welcome to the Rock!". Well, something like that anyway. I'd say Nicholas Cage is in some good movies, but they're not good because of him.
  • CyndaneCyndane Join Date: 2003-11-15 Member: 22913Members
    He isn't a bad actor, tbh, all of you are far to harsh.

    You have to remember, they have to work with the script they are given and the director, so you can't blame it all upon the actors.
  • eedioteediot Join Date: 2003-02-24 Member: 13903Members
    Nicolas Cage is a horrible actor, tbh, he just gets placed in good movies like Con Air and Gone in 60 Seconds. In more than one instance the roles have been written for him and his acting 'abilities', and he STILL manages to screw it up. I'm sorry but the guy is a hack.
  • TychoCelchuuuTychoCelchuuu Anememone Join Date: 2002-03-23 Member: 345Members
    I thought he was pretty good in Lord of War.
  • ChimpZealotChimpZealot The Elite Demo Detective Join Date: 2002-11-30 Member: 10315Members, NS1 Playtester, Constellation
    Even though I'm a gigantic comic nerd, I've never liked the character of Ghost Rider, and the reviews make me think I'm right in skipping this one.
  • eedioteediot Join Date: 2003-02-24 Member: 13903Members
    Ohh it's a <i>comic book</i> thing. I kept getting it confused with whale rider.
  • PetcoPetco Join Date: 2003-07-27 Member: 18478Members, Constellation
    <!--quoteo(post=1607766:date=Feb 19 2007, 02:13 AM:name=Liku)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Liku @ Feb 19 2007, 02:13 AM) [snapback]1607766[/snapback]</div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->
    What the hell's that even mean?
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    <a href="http://youtube.com/watch?v=Y4YRhrDod9Q" target="_blank">Click</a>
  • pardzhpardzh Join Date: 2002-10-25 Member: 1601Members
    <!--quoteo(post=1607916:date=Feb 19 2007, 07:35 PM:name=TychoCelchuuu)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(TychoCelchuuu @ Feb 19 2007, 07:35 PM) [snapback]1607916[/snapback]</div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->
    I thought he was pretty good in Lord of War.
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    Yeah, but that was probably his best movie IMO.
  • DrfuzzyDrfuzzy FEW... MORE.... INCHES... Join Date: 2003-09-21 Member: 21094Members
    edited February 2007
    <!--quoteo(post=1607715:date=Feb 18 2007, 11:41 PM:name=NeonSpyder)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(NeonSpyder @ Feb 18 2007, 11:41 PM) [snapback]1607715[/snapback]</div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->
    If he wasn't a flaming skeleton of vengeance, I would have his babies.
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    but thats what makes him so.... hot?! [/pun]

    Nick is good, the directors suck for putting him in movies that don't fit him.
  • CyndaneCyndane Join Date: 2003-11-15 Member: 22913Members
    <!--quoteo(post=1608124:date=Feb 20 2007, 11:14 AM:name=Drfuzzy)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Drfuzzy @ Feb 20 2007, 11:14 AM) [snapback]1608124[/snapback]</div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->
    but thats what makes him so.... hot?! [/pun]

    Nick is good, the directors suck for putting him in movies that don't fit him.
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    Thank you Dr Fuzzy, for a singular voice of sanity.
  • eedioteediot Join Date: 2003-02-24 Member: 13903Members
    Clueless. You're all clueless.

    I liked Stallone in Rocky, doesn't mean he's a good actor. You couldn't put him in Boogie Nights and claim that it was just 'the wrong role'. That's what being an actor is all about, <i>acting</i>, becoming the role given to you and giving something to it such that it's believable and imbues it with a certain artistic quality. Nicolas Cage is just a hack who knows a few director/producer buddies and gets parts because of his celebrity! You can't say "the directors suck for putting him in movies that don't suit him", what movies suit him? The only roles he could ever fill are the ones written specifically for him, and even then it'd be awkward because he'd still be trying to act and screw it up even more.

    Goddamn it.
  • DrSuredeathDrSuredeath Join Date: 2002-11-11 Member: 8217Members
    Good actor or not, this is one big miscast on Tom Hank as Robert Langdon proportion. I can't look at Cage and imagine him a comic book superhero. (Thank god he wasn't Superman.)
  • DiscoZombieDiscoZombie Join Date: 2003-08-05 Member: 18951Members
    Raising Arizona was clearly Cage's finest work.

    I'm pretty sure he rode his uncle's (Francis Ford Coppola) coattails into the movie industry, and he'll do pretty much anything they throw money at him for... but that said, I actually enjoy him most of the time. =p
  • TheSaviorTheSavior Join Date: 2003-10-14 Member: 21688Members
    I liked Cage in "The Rock" and "Windtalkers."

    Then again, I've been told my taste in movies sucks.
  • SmoodCrooznSmoodCroozn Join Date: 2003-11-04 Member: 22310Members
    Eh, I don't even know why people want to watch these comic book movies.

    I just don't see anything special in their STORYLINES. Guy is a loser at start. Bad guys do bad. Some girl says, "Use your heart". Guy then singlehandedly defeats bad guys. Or something like that. The end.

    Pan's Labyrinth is at least a billion times better than Spider-man. Fight club, a gizillion times more. Am I the only one asking myself, is America getting stupider? Why do movies that use cliche scenes get more attention than the original, thought-provoking ones?
  • TychoCelchuuuTychoCelchuuu Anememone Join Date: 2002-03-23 Member: 345Members
    Anyone who can espouse Fight Club as a billion gazillion times more thought-provoking than Spiderman and then rail against cliche movies in the same breath either has a lot of nerve or an astounding dearth of intelligence. Or both.
  • XythXyth Avatar Join Date: 2003-11-04 Member: 22312Members
    <!--quoteo(post=1608247:date=Feb 20 2007, 10:37 PM:name=TychoCelchuuu)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(TychoCelchuuu @ Feb 20 2007, 10:37 PM) [snapback]1608247[/snapback]</div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->
    Anyone who can espouse Fight Club as a billion gazillion times more thought-provoking than Spiderman and then rail against cliche movies in the same breath either has a lot of nerve or an astounding dearth of intelligence. Or both.
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    This post confuses me. Yes, no movie or idea is really original anymore, but to say that Fight Club isn't more original then Spiderman is pretty retarded as well...
  • Kouji_SanKouji_San Sr. Hινε Uρкεερεг - EUPT Deputy The Netherlands Join Date: 2003-05-13 Member: 16271Members, NS2 Playtester, Squad Five Blue
    I'm not interested in good actor or not (tis a bad movie so...) I'm more interested in how he is able to whistle for his bike with a skull head <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/biggrin-fix.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":D" border="0" alt="biggrin-fix.gif" />
  • NeonSpyderNeonSpyder &quot;Das est NTLDR?&quot; Join Date: 2003-07-03 Member: 17913Members
    <!--quoteo(post=1608256:date=Feb 20 2007, 10:59 PM:name=Kouji_San)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Kouji_San @ Feb 20 2007, 10:59 PM) [snapback]1608256[/snapback]</div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->
    I'm not interested in good actor or not (tis a bad movie so...) I'm more interested in how he is able to whistle for his bike with a skull head <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/biggrin-fix.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":D" border="0" alt="biggrin-fix.gif" />
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    This movie had quite a few 'leaps of logic' like the above case. I calmly ignored them while I stared at Eva Mendes conveniently displayed goodies. Which was one of the far and few between pleasing aspects of the movie.
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