This probably doesn't surprise you, but dying "for the greater good" isn't very consoling.
I don't know what's going on here. But I know we have an awful lot of experienced players, so it's probably wild. This'll be fun to read about in the postgame thread.
At this point, any of you are fair game. I have no idea who the wolves and human special roles are, so none of you are worth dying for. All I know is that I'll fight tooth and nail to survive, and that means voting for <b>Aldaris</b> if it'll save me. I told you before it's nothing personal. May the luckier man live.
EMP_DemonNothing to see here.Join Date: 2005-01-28Member: 38754Members, Constellation
edited February 2007
<b><i><!--sizeo:5--><span style="font-size:18pt;line-height:100%"><!--/sizeo-->It is now Night Two: No Posting!<!--sizec--></span><!--/sizec--></i></b>
In the armoury, <b>Eternaly_Lost</b>, <b>lolfighter</b> and <b>Thansal</b> had just finished organizing all of the equipment, from pistols to missiles. <b>Aldaris</b> had left a few minutes ago, heading to the mess hall of the <i>I/O</i>. The three of them left and headed in the same direction <b>Aldaris</b> went, when all of a sudden...
(beep)
<b>Thansal</b> turned towards <b>lolfighter</b>, "Did you hear that?", to which <b>lolfighter</b> replied, "Definitely."
<b>Eternaly_Lost</b> turned toward the source of the noise, and found a large chest sitting on the ground, in one of the cargo bays. "It came from... this box?"
(beep beep)
<b>Thansal</b> muttered, "I don't like the looks of this..."
<b>lolfighter</b> looked at the top of the chest, then, motioning to <b>Eternaly_Lost</b>, he said, "The lid's screwed shut, do you have a screwdriver on you?"
<b>Eternaly_Lost</b> nodded, and passed a screwdriver from his pocket to <b>lolfighter</b>.
In the mess hall, most of the crew, except for those still on the bridge from earlier, were discussing their mission and the possibility of saboteurs onboard.
"Wolves in sheep's clothing." <b>Zor2</b> muttered, sitting at a table with <b>TheMuffinMan</b> and <b>microcosm</b>. <b>Zor2</b> was the chief gunner, manning a topside missile turret, while <b>TheMuffinMan</b> and <b>microcosm</b> were in charge of the side-mounted gatling gun turrets.
"It's not really sheep's clothing, it's cotton." <b>microcosm</b> had impeccable aim, except for metaphors, those just went right over his head.
"It's a figure of speech," <b>TheMuffinMan</b> replied, "but since they are definitely human, what about... 'werewolves'?"
"That would make a lot more sense," <b>microcosm</b> again, apparently not realizing that <b>Zor2</b> and <b>TheMuffinMan</b> weren't really serious.
On the other end of the hall, the three workers of the medical bay were also talking to each other.
"This is just insane," Chief Medic <b>Gwahir</b> was likely the most realistic member of the crew, "We didn't even launch with <i>half</i> of the equipment needed for a crew of this size."
"I don't know about that," <b>Ana</b> replied. By contrast, she was the most optimistic crew member. "How many injuries can we GET in six days?"
"You'd.. be.. surp-zzzzzz..." Unfortunately for <b>wonedslackystyle</b>, he was accustomed to the night shift, and as a result of the rapid evacuation, was extremely tired.
"...Should we wake him?" <b>Ana</b> wondered, to which <b>Gwahir</b> replied, "Nah, let him sleep. He's easier to deal with like this."
<b>lolfighter</b> and <b>Eternaly_Lost</b> had begun to make good progress on the bomb, disabling detonator after detonator, and had begun to make their way to the final detonator. However...
<b>lolfighter</b> looked at the last detonator of the bomb in confusion, "How the hell do we disable THIS?" The detonator of the bomb was a cube-shaped computer core, and attached to it were a number of wires. The timer on the bomb read two minutes and was slowly decreasing...
<b>Eternaly_Lost</b> thought, and quickly grabbed a portable welder from a nearby wall. "What are you doing?" <b>lolfighter</b> asked.
<b>Eternaly_Lost</b> replied, "If we can melt the chips, the bomb should be unable to explode."
"And if you're wrong?", <b>lolfighter</b> asked back.
<b>Eternaly_Lost</b> didn't reply, and applied the welder to the first chip...
Near the middle of the mess hall, five other members of the crew were in a heated debate about what course to take.
"I say we turn this bucket of bolts around and <i>fight</i>!" That would be <b>iggymatrixcounter</b>, a hired mercenary. Despite not being with the group very long, some rumoured that he had defeated a platoon of soldiers single-handedly...
"And what do you propose we do?" <b>im_lost</b> replied, "We've got better things to do than worry about a small raiding force." <b>im_lost</b> was the chief engineer on board, although he didn't act very much like it.
"Small? We were being <i>bombed</i>!" <b>Mouse</b> wasn't a very good fighter, but he was second only to <b>Xentor</b> in terms of tactical knowledge. He was also the best cook in the crew, for what it was worth. "Bombing isn't a tactic of a <i>small</i> raiding force!"
"They couldn't have been too powerful." <b>doomchica</b> was <b>im_lost</b>'s student, and despite the two of them not working together very long, <b>doomchica</b> was almost as skilled as <b>im_lost</b> himself. "There were a lot of calls for anti-infantry turrets to be manned. It sounded like the incoming force was mostly soldiers, with maybe a bomber or two."
"I'd have to agree with <b>doomchica</b> and <b>im_lost</b>. The group at base can handle themselves, but our job could end this war." <b>Aldaris</b> was the chief of security, and was quite clearly built for the task.
The five of them continued to squabble about the situation, not worrying about the situation going on beneath their noses...
As <b>Eternaly_Lost</b> finished welding the last chip, the timer stopped at three and a half seconds.
<b>lolfighter</b> sighed, "I guess we managed to do it."
<b>Eternaly_Lost</b> sighed as well, and then commented, "Let's take this thing apart, see what we can-" He was cut off by the sound of the bomb whirring back to life, the timer dropping to three...
<b>Eternaly_Lost</b> thought, <i>'The core itself must be an explosive!'</i> Two...
<b>lolfighter</b> stared, jaw wide open, at their impending doom. One...
As a rumble shook the <i>I/O</i>, <b>Thansal</b> reached the bridge, out of breath and nearly collapsed. <b>Chakuu</b> noticed the rapid entry, and quickly asked... "What happened?"
<b>Thansal</b> replied, "bomb... <b>lolfighter</b>... <b>Eternaly_Lost</b>... disarm..." Unfortunately, <b>Thansal</b> then fainted on the ground.
While <b>Harrower</b> and <b>Freak83</b> were trying to figure out what <b>Thansal</b> meant, <b>Isamil</b> had already put two and two together... "They must have found a bomb, and I'm guessing by that explosion, that <b><!--coloro:#FF0000--><span style="color:#FF0000"><!--/coloro-->lolfighter<!--colorc--></span><!--/colorc--></b> and <b><!--coloro:#FF0000--><span style="color:#FF0000"><!--/coloro-->Eternaly_Lost<!--colorc--></span><!--/colorc--></b> failed to disarm it..."
<b>Freak83</b> was too shocked to even reply, but one thing was sure: <b>Rotnes</b>' followers would stop at no boundaries to sabotage the mission...
<!--quoteo(post=1608941:date=Feb 23 2007, 11:22 PM:name=Harrower)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Harrower @ Feb 23 2007, 11:22 PM) [snapback]1608941[/snapback]</div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec--> Can I intentionally not vote without incurring phantom votes?
I don't have anyone to vote for yet. <!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd--> First, it's night time, which means you aren't supposed to post. (I'm just clarifying rules and responding to a nighttime post, so I don't see a problem with my post.)
Second, the day already ended, so you have a phantom vote already, and it will be around for the rest of the game.
Third, you can't decide not to vote and not get a phantom vote. If you could, then there would be about 4 votes during some days and no one would learn anything about who is on which side.
EMP_DemonNothing to see here.Join Date: 2005-01-28Member: 38754Members, Constellation
<b><i><!--sizeo:5--><span style="font-size:18pt;line-height:100%"><!--/sizeo-->It is now Day Two: Post away!<!--sizec--></span><!--/sizec--></i></b>
Despite the onset of night, there was no visible change within the <i>I/O</i>. The lights were still on, although the only two people on the bridge at the moment were <b>Isamil</b> and <b>wonedslackystyle</b>. Being the only two assigned to the night shift, the two of them had to ensure that the <i>I/O</i> continued toward its destination.
"If we keep this speed, and can keep going over night, we can reach Checkpoint Nu tomorrow." The original course was to be a twisting course within a mountain range. <b>Isamil</b> decided to re-calculate the time taken for the tunnel route, however...
"That's assuming we don't run into anything, though." Unlike earlier in the mess hall, <b>wonedslackystyle</b> was wide awake, and at the helm. Not that there was a lot to be done, considering the tunnel was straight.
Meanwhile, there was a stir of activity on board. A number of saboteurs were setting traps in various locations, the goal not to destroy the <i>I/O</i>, but rather the crew onboard, so that they could take a trophy and use the <i>I/O</i> to destroy the last bit of resistance, once and for all. One of those saboteur, however, unknowingly tripped an intercom...
"What was that?", <b>wonedslackystyle</b> asked. Then, deciding to answer his own question, he walked over to the communications station, and determined... "Looks like someone turned on the intercom in the armoury."
<b>Isamil</b> was rather tired, however, and mentioned, "How about you go check it out, and I'll take the helm until you get back?"
<b>wonedslackystyle</b> nodded and left the bridge, but he didn't realize that he had also unintentionally triggered the intercom on his end...
"...I'll take the helm until you get back?" The masked figure couldn't believe his bad luck, he had just alerted them to his presence! He decided to bail, heading back to his room for the night. Another saboteur though, decided to do the opposite, pay the bridge a little visit...
<b>Freak83</b> had just woken up and finished watching the mission briefing (finally), and decided to give himself a vocal summary of the mission. "So, we need to follow the tunnel to under <b>Rotnes</b>' base, where we disable the weird energy field that blocks all of our troops and weapons from getting in. Then, we join with what's left of our forces to destroy <b>Rotnes</b> and his base once and for all. Definitely easier said than done."
<b>wonedslackystyle</b> entered the armoury, and looked around for anyone nearby. Not seeing anyone else, he reached for the intercom to turn it off, however...
"Back so soon?" That was definitely <b>Isamil</b>'s voice, but who was he talking to? A second paused, then, "<i>Who are yo-</i>", followed by a (TWANG) noise, then silence as someone turned the intercom off. <b>wonedslackystyle</b> hastily shut off the armoury's intercom, then rushed out... just as a missile rack fell where he was standing a minute ago.
On the way, <b>Freak83</b> just exited his quarters, with the intention of relieving <b>Isamil</b>. He was nearly run over by the speeding <b>wonedslackystyle</b>. "What's the hurry?" <b>Freak83</b> was a little ticked, for obvious reasons.
"<b>Isamil</b> might be in trouble! I was checking an intercom when-" <b>wonedslackystyle</b> stopped explaining when <b>Freak83</b> shoved him out of the way, and started running for the bridge himself. <b>wonedslackystyle</b> followed him as fast as he could...
Upon reaching the bridge, the two of them rushed in, only to see a shocking sight... was <b>Isamil</b> sitting at the helm, chair facing the door to the bridge... but through his head, directly between the eyes, was a crossbow bolt.
<b>Freak83</b> and <b>wonedslackystyle</b> didn't move for several minutes, not because of the sight of <b><!--coloro:#FF0000--><span style="color:#FF0000"><!--/coloro-->Isamil<!--colorc--></span><!--/colorc--></b>'s death, but at the message written in blood on the wall behind him...
<!--sizeo:3--><span style="font-size:12pt;line-height:100%"><!--/sizeo--><i><!--coloro:#FF0000--><span style="color:#FF0000"><!--/coloro-->ROTNES WILL RULE AGAIN...<!--colorc--></span><!--/colorc--></i><!--sizec--></span><!--/sizec-->
No one seems to be acting too strangely so far (out of the regular players), and I don't have any reason to suspect anyone yet, so I'm gonna go with the least active player, <b>Harrower</b>, for now.
Wow, bad one Isamil <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/sad-fix.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":(" border="0" alt="sad-fix.gif" /> I wasn't expecting that.
I reckon we stick with the assumption that Isamil was wolfed. The other options - a guardian save on the wolf kill and the vigi killing Isamil, are all so unlikely that at this point it's probably not worth considering. With that in mind, can anyone think of why Isamil would be wolfed? The only possible link i can see is that he voted for lolfighter. If lolf was indeed a wolf then perhaps they thought he could be the seer? I don't know, that's all i've got at the moment.
ThansalThe New ScumJoin Date: 2002-08-22Member: 1215Members, Constellation
yah, I cast my assumption with every one else, wolves are trying to kill the seer based on the people that voted for lolf.
I am unsure who I will vote for yet (though I have a good idea). Unfortunately I am not going to be around much for this day cycle (I have a rare event to actually spend a couple of days with my GF starting after work tomorrow). I will try to make a few more posts tomorrow and Monday, however for now I am going to sleep (I am beat)
So a seer found a wolf night 1 and that wolf happened to be a lover? Unless there's a psychic report, I find this to be very suspicious that all those coinsidences just happened out of nowhere.
While it would be very lucky for that to happen, do you also not find it coincidence that muffinman has evidence that lolfighter was a wolf, lolfighter gets lynched, and then Isamil, who voted for lolfighter, just happens to get wolfed?
<!--quoteo(post=1609153:date=Feb 25 2007, 04:40 AM:name=Aldaris)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Aldaris @ Feb 25 2007, 04:40 AM) [snapback]1609153[/snapback]</div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec--> While it would be very lucky for that to happen, do you also not find it coincidence that muffinman has evidence that lolfighter was a wolf, lolfighter gets lynched, and then Isamil, who voted for lolfighter, just happens to get wolfed? <!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
nope, if muffinman was a wolf then you have to assume lol wasn't one. (Doubtful a wolf brings this all up on another wolf) So now muffinman kills someone who voted lol to try to add evidence that he actualyl was a wolf.
Also, the point that you refer to... muffinman brought that up! So if muffin was was a wolf he would be feeding more and more into lol's lynch being correct.
Muffin told me exactly who came to him, I tried asking him if a mystery person came or a real person and after a long discussion he told me who came to him, so that does have some weight.
In fact as the day goes on and everyone reads the thread and such, and no one confirms or denies a psychic report then my conspiracy theory loses some of it's merit, but until then I want to see some answers.
<!--quoteo(post=1609158:date=Feb 24 2007, 09:30 PM:name=Harrower)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Harrower @ Feb 24 2007, 09:30 PM) [snapback]1609158[/snapback]</div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec--> Ok then I'll vote for im_lost.
Actually on second thought, all the cool people are voting for lolfighter, so in honor of Isamil's death, I'll vote for him. <!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
I am not sure if your post meant you're undecided on voting, since you did not bold any names and appeared to change the vote to lolfighter, who is dead. To vote remember to <b>bold</b> the name of the person you're voting for.
Honestly, we don't have any way of knowing why Isamil was killed. Maybe it was an attempt to kill the seer, maybe it was meant to look like an attempt at killing the seer. The psychic might have some insight to that, but they don't really have a safe way of getting that message out.
Harrower, were you trying to vote for me or lolfighter? lolfighter is dead so you can't vote for him; if you want to vote for me then make a new post with my name in bold.
WOW. <b>Harrower</b> you are the fail. Posting at night, not bolding votes, voting for dead people (do you <i>see</i> dead people?), and general in-activity in the game.
Sorry for the long post, but i don't like being accused <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/smile-fix.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":)" border="0" alt="smile-fix.gif" />
<!--quoteo(post=1609150:date=Feb 25 2007, 04:23 AM:name=iggymatrixcounter)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(iggymatrixcounter @ Feb 25 2007, 04:23 AM) [snapback]1609150[/snapback]</div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec--> So a seer found a wolf night 1 and that wolf happened to be a lover? Unless there's a psychic report, I find this to be very suspicious that all those coinsidences just happened out of nowhere. <!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
So what, i'm a wolf and i just picked lolfighter at random, and he just happened to be a lover? The chances of that are also pretty damned unlikely. Fair enough, i'll concede the point that finding both a lover and a wolf on the same night is a big coincidence, but how would i have known that eternal was lolfighters lover? An hour before the end of the day everyone did, but until eternal started sending those pm's around i get the impression that only lolf and eternal knew.
As for the psychic, it would be great if he could contact me but if i was in his position i probably wouldn't, not yet. With 5 wolves it's definitely possible that they could make a sacrifice in order to draw out the roles. I hope we've got a supporter out there in the psychic somewhere though, even if he wants to stay hidden for the time being.
<!--quoteo--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE</div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->nope, if muffinman was a wolf then you have to assume lol wasn't one. (Doubtful a wolf brings this all up on another wolf) So now muffinman kills someone who voted lol to try to add evidence that he actualyl was a wolf.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
If i'm a wolf, that means that Thansal is also a wolf. So on the first day two wolves went completely out into the open in order to lynch a human, which according to the maths was pretty damned likely anyway? I know about 'the best place to hide is out in the open' and all that, but wouldn't you think that a little risky for the wolves?
<!--quoteo--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE</div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->Also, the point that you refer to... muffinman brought that up! So if muffin was was a wolf he would be feeding more and more into lol's lynch being correct.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
It's a connection, which is more than anyone else has come up with at the moment. If i was a wolf then smartest thing i could have done would be to kill off either thansal or myself - that would pretty much confirm my story. But i'm not and logic supports this.
<!--quoteo--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE</div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->Muffin told me exactly who came to him, I tried asking him if a mystery person came or a real person and after a long discussion he told me who came to him, so that does have some weight.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
I'm not sure what you're getting at here. It's common knowledge that Thansal came to me, and i'm not in direct contact with the seer at this time.
<!--quoteo--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE</div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->In fact as the day goes on and everyone reads the thread and such, and no one confirms or denies a psychic report then my conspiracy theory loses some of it's merit, but until then I want to see some answers.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
I wouldn't hold your breath for a psychic report, just like i'm not. It certainly would be a help though <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/smile-fix.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":)" border="0" alt="smile-fix.gif" /> I hope i've answered some of your concerns, anyway.
Well, unless the psychic is already dead, they can easily come forward anonymously. Just make a new account on the forums and message a few of us, or just look people up on instant messengers and do the same thing there.
(Stating the obvious, I know, but we do have some new people here)
ThansalThe New ScumJoin Date: 2002-08-22Member: 1215Members, Constellation
Ok, as I said previously, I am not going to be around much, so I have to lay alot of my cards on the table.
The possible scenarios for what happened last day: Scenario A: I am telling the truth, I am in contact with the seer (or the seer my self, both are relatively the same thing) We lynched a wolf day 1 (go us!). The wolves are trying to take out the seer by killing people that voted for lolf. This can be backed up to some degree by the psychic
Scenario B: I am a wolf and conned a number of people into lynching a human. Or my contact is a wolf and is conning me as well, both are about the same (only one of them has me feeling like a fool). The Wolves killed a random human that voted for lolf to try and add credibility to my claims. This can be disproved by the psychic
Scenario C: Basically the same as B, but the wolves wolfed one of their own to fool the psychic. This only work if the psychic gets his/her info AFTER the wolfing. I would like a rules clarification if some one wouldn't mind. Scratch scenario C, going by the fact that EMP said the psychic would be getting a PM shortly after night fall, this one would not work.
Obviously I am sticking with my story, and I hope that people believe me at this point. I will also say that I have been contacted by the seer (I am really ready to believe him/her at this point), with another wolf.
This time I cast a stone against <b>im_lost</b>.
If the psychic IS alive, please contact me, or back me up, or tell me that my seer is false, you hold more knowledge than I do atm. Obviously I will have a hard time believing that any one that contacts me is the psychic, and they I, so I hope they get a good way to get some info out....
As I said, I am only gona be on IRC a bit today, so any one that wants to contact me should send me forum PMs.
PS For iggy: I don't really know what you are trying to get at. I have addressed both of the most likely scenarios for what happened yesterday, and I was the person that contacted muffin (I talked about this a bit on IRC). I was able to convince him As for why no one is speaking up? it happens rather regularly. Most people don't have any real knowledge, and thus are waiting to see what other people do.
err, ok I actually just read through my logs (I only have them at work, where I am atm <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/tounge.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":p" border="0" alt="tounge.gif" />) iggy, here are my cards on the table: I was contacted by the 'seer' who took a leap of faith on me, he listed lolf as a wolf. I worked on convincing a few others to vote lolf as well, then came out my self. The confusion around a few things is b/c I was trying to keep my name outta it (so there was no clear target for the wolves). I came forward because people were doubting it all to much. The lovers thing is PURE chance, E_Lost actually contacted me (see my sig), trying to get me to change my vote. Not because he didn't think lolf was a wolf (due to an earlier convo with lolf he was rather sure that lolf was a wolf), but b/c he wanted to stay in the game longer. I feel bad for the guy, but I couldn't give up a good chance at a day 1 wolf lynch.
there, cards down, take em or leave em.
I am so gona end up getting wolfed <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/biggrin-fix.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":D" border="0" alt="biggrin-fix.gif" /> But hey, one human (me) in exchange for one, maybe 2, wolves? I will take it.
as it is hard to find in there, I did vote, and here are the new totals:
So apparently this 'seer' has found two wolves in two days? That seems pretty amazing. Even more so that they decided to trust someone they hadn't checked with the information that they were the seer. You seem like you're being fairly open, so I'm going to guess that you aren't the wolf here. Rather, the person that has contacted you is a wolf. If/when this is discovered, they will have caused enough damage by the time you can lynch them that it will still be a victory for them, and then you won't be able to trust the real seer by that point. I hope most of you can see that the 'seer' is fairly 'lucky' in this game.
ThansalThe New ScumJoin Date: 2002-08-22Member: 1215Members, Constellation
I know, it seems strange, both the seer getting lucky 2 times, and trusting me (a nonconfirmed human). However stranger things have happened (check out the post game for TWG 9, each time the seer checks, finds a human, and the human gets wolfed, exept when he found the guardian).
But as I said, cards on the table, I am rather convinced of this seer atm. I know it is a BIG gamble on my part (and was a big gamble on the seer's part), but it is one that I feel the odds are scewed in my favor for.
After talking to thansal, i'm not 100% convinced but i'm going to put my vote on <b>im_lost</b> unless something else comes up - something more concrete. Again it's the best we've got to go on, and again the chances of this being on the straight and narrow and the subsequant advantage it would give us far outweigh any other option we've got available to us.
If a wolf <i>is</i> playing us then that means that there is another seer out there, a seer with two confirmed humans/wolves. If that's true then until they make their move, the psychic makes his or something else comes up then i'm going to have to stick to my guns.
You can call the seer lucky, but you can also call the seer unlucky in a sense. What do you do when three people are dying a day (that was the predicted result pre-night one, anyway), and you've got no one to trust by the end of day two? Sooner or later you've got to make your findings public, and without anyone to trust that means that as a seer you're going to have to take a leap of faith. The longer we go without action, the stronger a position the wolves are in.
No one to trust by the end of day 2? The seer decided to reveal who they are by the end of day 1. If the seer had found two wolves and then decided to confide in someone during day 2 it would make sense, because then they probably would start to get desperate. However, day 1 seems a bit early to reveal yourself as the seer.
And with the idea of this being a fake seer, how effective would the real seer be after the success of this fake seer?
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I don't know what's going on here. But I know we have an awful lot of experienced players, so it's probably wild. This'll be fun to read about in the postgame thread.
I change my vote to <b> lolfighter</b>
Nail on coffin and all that...
Someone help me if Im wrong.....
We where the lovers, to bad that I died so early.
Good luck wolfs, It nice having 2 death humans from the start.
Fine <b>lolfighter</b>
19:59] lolfighter: You realise your vote isn't valid, do you?
In the armoury, <b>Eternaly_Lost</b>, <b>lolfighter</b> and <b>Thansal</b> had just finished organizing all of the equipment, from pistols to missiles. <b>Aldaris</b> had left a few minutes ago, heading to the mess hall of the <i>I/O</i>. The three of them left and headed in the same direction <b>Aldaris</b> went, when all of a sudden...
(beep)
<b>Thansal</b> turned towards <b>lolfighter</b>, "Did you hear that?", to which <b>lolfighter</b> replied, "Definitely."
<b>Eternaly_Lost</b> turned toward the source of the noise, and found a large chest sitting on the ground, in one of the cargo bays. "It came from... this box?"
(beep beep)
<b>Thansal</b> muttered, "I don't like the looks of this..."
<b>lolfighter</b> looked at the top of the chest, then, motioning to <b>Eternaly_Lost</b>, he said, "The lid's screwed shut, do you have a screwdriver on you?"
<b>Eternaly_Lost</b> nodded, and passed a screwdriver from his pocket to <b>lolfighter</b>.
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In the mess hall, most of the crew, except for those still on the bridge from earlier, were discussing their mission and the possibility of saboteurs onboard.
"Wolves in sheep's clothing." <b>Zor2</b> muttered, sitting at a table with <b>TheMuffinMan</b> and <b>microcosm</b>. <b>Zor2</b> was the chief gunner, manning a topside missile turret, while <b>TheMuffinMan</b> and <b>microcosm</b> were in charge of the side-mounted gatling gun turrets.
"It's not really sheep's clothing, it's cotton." <b>microcosm</b> had impeccable aim, except for metaphors, those just went right over his head.
"It's a figure of speech," <b>TheMuffinMan</b> replied, "but since they are definitely human, what about... 'werewolves'?"
"That would make a lot more sense," <b>microcosm</b> again, apparently not realizing that <b>Zor2</b> and <b>TheMuffinMan</b> weren't really serious.
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<b>Thansal</b>, <b>Eternaly_Lost</b> and <b>lolfighter</b> peered into the chest, and realized...
"It's a bomb!" the three of them said in unison.
"We've got to disarm it!" <b>Eternaly_Lost</b> exclaimed.
"You're nuts!" That was <b>Thansal</b>.
"Then go report this to <b>Freak83</b>!" <b>lolfighter</b> was just as tense as the other two obviously were, "Or stay out of the way!"
<b>Thansal</b> didn't miss a second, and immediately bolted from the armoury...
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On the other end of the hall, the three workers of the medical bay were also talking to each other.
"This is just insane," Chief Medic <b>Gwahir</b> was likely the most realistic member of the crew, "We didn't even launch with <i>half</i> of the equipment needed for a crew of this size."
"I don't know about that," <b>Ana</b> replied. By contrast, she was the most optimistic crew member. "How many injuries can we GET in six days?"
"You'd.. be.. surp-zzzzzz..." Unfortunately for <b>wonedslackystyle</b>, he was accustomed to the night shift, and as a result of the rapid evacuation, was extremely tired.
"...Should we wake him?" <b>Ana</b> wondered, to which <b>Gwahir</b> replied, "Nah, let him sleep. He's easier to deal with like this."
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<b>lolfighter</b> and <b>Eternaly_Lost</b> had begun to make good progress on the bomb, disabling detonator after detonator, and had begun to make their way to the final detonator. However...
<b>lolfighter</b> looked at the last detonator of the bomb in confusion, "How the hell do we disable THIS?" The detonator of the bomb was a cube-shaped computer core, and attached to it were a number of wires. The timer on the bomb read two minutes and was slowly decreasing...
<b>Eternaly_Lost</b> thought, and quickly grabbed a portable welder from a nearby wall. "What are you doing?" <b>lolfighter</b> asked.
<b>Eternaly_Lost</b> replied, "If we can melt the chips, the bomb should be unable to explode."
"And if you're wrong?", <b>lolfighter</b> asked back.
<b>Eternaly_Lost</b> didn't reply, and applied the welder to the first chip...
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Near the middle of the mess hall, five other members of the crew were in a heated debate about what course to take.
"I say we turn this bucket of bolts around and <i>fight</i>!" That would be <b>iggymatrixcounter</b>, a hired mercenary. Despite not being with the group very long, some rumoured that he had defeated a platoon of soldiers single-handedly...
"And what do you propose we do?" <b>im_lost</b> replied, "We've got better things to do than worry about a small raiding force." <b>im_lost</b> was the chief engineer on board, although he didn't act very much like it.
"Small? We were being <i>bombed</i>!" <b>Mouse</b> wasn't a very good fighter, but he was second only to <b>Xentor</b> in terms of tactical knowledge. He was also the best cook in the crew, for what it was worth. "Bombing isn't a tactic of a <i>small</i> raiding force!"
"They couldn't have been too powerful." <b>doomchica</b> was <b>im_lost</b>'s student, and despite the two of them not working together very long, <b>doomchica</b> was almost as skilled as <b>im_lost</b> himself. "There were a lot of calls for anti-infantry turrets to be manned. It sounded like the incoming force was mostly soldiers, with maybe a bomber or two."
"I'd have to agree with <b>doomchica</b> and <b>im_lost</b>. The group at base can handle themselves, but our job could end this war." <b>Aldaris</b> was the chief of security, and was quite clearly built for the task.
The five of them continued to squabble about the situation, not worrying about the situation going on beneath their noses...
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As <b>Eternaly_Lost</b> finished welding the last chip, the timer stopped at three and a half seconds.
<b>lolfighter</b> sighed, "I guess we managed to do it."
<b>Eternaly_Lost</b> sighed as well, and then commented, "Let's take this thing apart, see what we can-" He was cut off by the sound of the bomb whirring back to life, the timer dropping to three...
<b>Eternaly_Lost</b> thought, <i>'The core itself must be an explosive!'</i> Two...
<b>lolfighter</b> stared, jaw wide open, at their impending doom. One...
<b>Eternaly_Lost</b> muttered... "F-"
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As a rumble shook the <i>I/O</i>, <b>Thansal</b> reached the bridge, out of breath and nearly collapsed. <b>Chakuu</b> noticed the rapid entry, and quickly asked... "What happened?"
<b>Thansal</b> replied, "bomb... <b>lolfighter</b>... <b>Eternaly_Lost</b>... disarm..." Unfortunately, <b>Thansal</b> then fainted on the ground.
While <b>Harrower</b> and <b>Freak83</b> were trying to figure out what <b>Thansal</b> meant, <b>Isamil</b> had already put two and two together... "They must have found a bomb, and I'm guessing by that explosion, that <b><!--coloro:#FF0000--><span style="color:#FF0000"><!--/coloro-->lolfighter<!--colorc--></span><!--/colorc--></b> and <b><!--coloro:#FF0000--><span style="color:#FF0000"><!--/coloro-->Eternaly_Lost<!--colorc--></span><!--/colorc--></b> failed to disarm it..."
<b>Freak83</b> was too shocked to even reply, but one thing was sure: <b>Rotnes</b>' followers would stop at no boundaries to sabotage the mission...
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1. Captain Freak83 [EST]
2. Commander im_lost [PST]
3. Lieutenant Xentor [EST]
4. Lieutenant Chakuu [EST]
5. Lieutenant Gwahir [EST]
6. Lieutenant Zor2 [GMT]
7. Private TheMuffinMan [GMT]
8. Private doomchica [PST]
9. Private Mouse [AEST/GMT+10]
10. Private Isamil [EST]
11. Private Aldaris [GMT]
12. Private Thansal [EST]
13. Private Harrower [EST]
14. Private iggymatrixcounter [EST]
15. Private microcosm [EST]
16. Private wonedslackystyle [EST]
17. Private Ana [CST]
All roles and humans (if alive) should PM me, and the Psychic (if alive) will be getting a PM shortly.
Harrower has 1 phantom vote.
The night will end <b>Saturday, Feb. 24th, 8:00 PM EST (5:00 PM PST)</b>
I don't have anyone to vote for yet.
Can I intentionally not vote without incurring phantom votes?
I don't have anyone to vote for yet.
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First, it's night time, which means you aren't supposed to post. (I'm just clarifying rules and responding to a nighttime post, so I don't see a problem with my post.)
Second, the day already ended, so you have a phantom vote already, and it will be around for the rest of the game.
Third, you can't decide not to vote and not get a phantom vote. If you could, then there would be about 4 votes during some days and no one would learn anything about who is on which side.
Fourth, no editing your posts.
Despite the onset of night, there was no visible change within the <i>I/O</i>. The lights were still on, although the only two people on the bridge at the moment were <b>Isamil</b> and <b>wonedslackystyle</b>. Being the only two assigned to the night shift, the two of them had to ensure that the <i>I/O</i> continued toward its destination.
"If we keep this speed, and can keep going over night, we can reach Checkpoint Nu tomorrow." The original course was to be a twisting course within a mountain range. <b>Isamil</b> decided to re-calculate the time taken for the tunnel route, however...
"That's assuming we don't run into anything, though." Unlike earlier in the mess hall, <b>wonedslackystyle</b> was wide awake, and at the helm. Not that there was a lot to be done, considering the tunnel was straight.
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Meanwhile, there was a stir of activity on board. A number of saboteurs were setting traps in various locations, the goal not to destroy the <i>I/O</i>, but rather the crew onboard, so that they could take a trophy and use the <i>I/O</i> to destroy the last bit of resistance, once and for all. One of those saboteur, however, unknowingly tripped an intercom...
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(kzzzzzzzz)
"What was that?", <b>wonedslackystyle</b> asked. Then, deciding to answer his own question, he walked over to the communications station, and determined... "Looks like someone turned on the intercom in the armoury."
<b>Isamil</b> was rather tired, however, and mentioned, "How about you go check it out, and I'll take the helm until you get back?"
<b>wonedslackystyle</b> nodded and left the bridge, but he didn't realize that he had also unintentionally triggered the intercom on his end...
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"...I'll take the helm until you get back?" The masked figure couldn't believe his bad luck, he had just alerted them to his presence! He decided to bail, heading back to his room for the night. Another saboteur though, decided to do the opposite, pay the bridge a little visit...
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<b>Freak83</b> had just woken up and finished watching the mission briefing (finally), and decided to give himself a vocal summary of the mission. "So, we need to follow the tunnel to under <b>Rotnes</b>' base, where we disable the weird energy field that blocks all of our troops and weapons from getting in. Then, we join with what's left of our forces to destroy <b>Rotnes</b> and his base once and for all. Definitely easier said than done."
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<b>wonedslackystyle</b> entered the armoury, and looked around for anyone nearby. Not seeing anyone else, he reached for the intercom to turn it off, however...
"Back so soon?" That was definitely <b>Isamil</b>'s voice, but who was he talking to? A second paused, then, "<i>Who are yo-</i>", followed by a (TWANG) noise, then silence as someone turned the intercom off. <b>wonedslackystyle</b> hastily shut off the armoury's intercom, then rushed out... just as a missile rack fell where he was standing a minute ago.
On the way, <b>Freak83</b> just exited his quarters, with the intention of relieving <b>Isamil</b>. He was nearly run over by the speeding <b>wonedslackystyle</b>. "What's the hurry?" <b>Freak83</b> was a little ticked, for obvious reasons.
"<b>Isamil</b> might be in trouble! I was checking an intercom when-" <b>wonedslackystyle</b> stopped explaining when <b>Freak83</b> shoved him out of the way, and started running for the bridge himself. <b>wonedslackystyle</b> followed him as fast as he could...
Upon reaching the bridge, the two of them rushed in, only to see a shocking sight... was <b>Isamil</b> sitting at the helm, chair facing the door to the bridge... but through his head, directly between the eyes, was a crossbow bolt.
<b>Freak83</b> and <b>wonedslackystyle</b> didn't move for several minutes, not because of the sight of <b><!--coloro:#FF0000--><span style="color:#FF0000"><!--/coloro-->Isamil<!--colorc--></span><!--/colorc--></b>'s death, but at the message written in blood on the wall behind him...
<!--sizeo:3--><span style="font-size:12pt;line-height:100%"><!--/sizeo--><i><!--coloro:#FF0000--><span style="color:#FF0000"><!--/coloro-->ROTNES WILL RULE AGAIN...<!--colorc--></span><!--/colorc--></i><!--sizec--></span><!--/sizec-->
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1. Captain Freak83 [EST]
2. Commander im_lost [PST]
3. Lieutenant Xentor [EST]
4. Lieutenant Chakuu [EST]
5. Lieutenant Gwahir [EST]
6. Lieutenant Zor2 [GMT]
7. Private TheMuffinMan [GMT]
8. Private doomchica [PST]
9. Private Mouse [AEST/GMT+10]
10. Private Aldaris [GMT]
11. Private Thansal [EST]
12. Private Harrower [EST] (1 phantom vote)
13. Private iggymatrixcounter [EST]
14. Private microcosm [EST]
15. Private wonedslackystyle [EST]
16. Private Ana [CST]
The night will end <b>Monday, Feb. 26th, 9:00 PM EST (6:00 PM PST)</b>
Instalynch is at 9, or 8 + 1 phantom vote.
I reckon we stick with the assumption that Isamil was wolfed. The other options - a guardian save on the wolf kill and the vigi killing Isamil, are all so unlikely that at this point it's probably not worth considering.
With that in mind, can anyone think of why Isamil would be wolfed? The only possible link i can see is that he voted for lolfighter. If lolf was indeed a wolf then perhaps they thought he could be the seer? I don't know, that's all i've got at the moment.
Nothing really to go on here either, so I'm not going to vote just yet...
I am unsure who I will vote for yet (though I have a good idea). Unfortunately I am not going to be around much for this day cycle (I have a rare event to actually spend a couple of days with my GF starting after work tomorrow). I will try to make a few more posts tomorrow and Monday, however for now I am going to sleep (I am beat)
Actually on second thought, all the cool people are voting for lolfighter, so in honor of Isamil's death, I'll vote for him.
While it would be very lucky for that to happen, do you also not find it coincidence that muffinman has evidence that lolfighter was a wolf, lolfighter gets lynched, and then Isamil, who voted for lolfighter, just happens to get wolfed?
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nope, if muffinman was a wolf then you have to assume lol wasn't one. (Doubtful a wolf brings this all up on another wolf) So now muffinman kills someone who voted lol to try to add evidence that he actualyl was a wolf.
Also, the point that you refer to... muffinman brought that up! So if muffin was was a wolf he would be feeding more and more into lol's lynch being correct.
Muffin told me exactly who came to him, I tried asking him if a mystery person came or a real person and after a long discussion he told me who came to him, so that does have some weight.
In fact as the day goes on and everyone reads the thread and such, and no one confirms or denies a psychic report then my conspiracy theory loses some of it's merit, but until then I want to see some answers.
Ok then I'll vote for im_lost.
Actually on second thought, all the cool people are voting for lolfighter, so in honor of Isamil's death, I'll vote for him.
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I am not sure if your post meant you're undecided on voting, since you did not bold any names and appeared to change the vote to lolfighter, who is dead. To vote remember to <b>bold</b> the name of the person you're voting for.
Harrower, were you trying to vote for me or lolfighter? lolfighter is dead so you can't vote for him; if you want to vote for me then make a new post with my name in bold.
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So what, i'm a wolf and i just picked lolfighter at random, and he just happened to be a lover? The chances of that are also pretty damned unlikely. Fair enough, i'll concede the point that finding both a lover and a wolf on the same night is a big coincidence, but how would i have known that eternal was lolfighters lover? An hour before the end of the day everyone did, but until eternal started sending those pm's around i get the impression that only lolf and eternal knew.
As for the psychic, it would be great if he could contact me but if i was in his position i probably wouldn't, not yet. With 5 wolves it's definitely possible that they could make a sacrifice in order to draw out the roles. I hope we've got a supporter out there in the psychic somewhere though, even if he wants to stay hidden for the time being.
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If i'm a wolf, that means that Thansal is also a wolf. So on the first day two wolves went completely out into the open in order to lynch a human, which according to the maths was pretty damned likely anyway? I know about 'the best place to hide is out in the open' and all that, but wouldn't you think that a little risky for the wolves?
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It's a connection, which is more than anyone else has come up with at the moment. If i was a wolf then smartest thing i could have done would be to kill off either thansal or myself - that would pretty much confirm my story. But i'm not and logic supports this.
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I'm not sure what you're getting at here. It's common knowledge that Thansal came to me, and i'm not in direct contact with the seer at this time.
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I wouldn't hold your breath for a psychic report, just like i'm not. It certainly would be a help though <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/smile-fix.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":)" border="0" alt="smile-fix.gif" /> I hope i've answered some of your concerns, anyway.
Harrower (2.001) - im_lost, doomchica, Phantom
doomchica (1) - Mouse
TheMuffinMan (1) - iggymatrixcounter
Yet to vote:
Freak83
Xentor
Chakuu
Gwahir
Zor2
TheMuffinMan
Aldaris
Thansal
Harrower
microcosm
wonedslackystyle
Ana
(Stating the obvious, I know, but we do have some new people here)
The possible scenarios for what happened last day:
Scenario A:
I am telling the truth, I am in contact with the seer (or the seer my self, both are relatively the same thing)
We lynched a wolf day 1 (go us!).
The wolves are trying to take out the seer by killing people that voted for lolf.
This can be backed up to some degree by the psychic
Scenario B:
I am a wolf and conned a number of people into lynching a human. Or my contact is a wolf and is conning me as well, both are about the same (only one of them has me feeling like a fool).
The Wolves killed a random human that voted for lolf to try and add credibility to my claims.
This can be disproved by the psychic
Scenario C:
Basically the same as B, but the wolves wolfed one of their own to fool the psychic. This only work if the psychic gets his/her info AFTER the wolfing. I would like a rules clarification if some one wouldn't mind.
Scratch scenario C, going by the fact that EMP said the psychic would be getting a PM shortly after night fall, this one would not work.
Obviously I am sticking with my story, and I hope that people believe me at this point. I will also say that I have been contacted by the seer (I am really ready to believe him/her at this point), with another wolf.
This time I cast a stone against <b>im_lost</b>.
If the psychic IS alive, please contact me, or back me up, or tell me that my seer is false, you hold more knowledge than I do atm. Obviously I will have a hard time believing that any one that contacts me is the psychic, and they I, so I hope they get a good way to get some info out....
As I said, I am only gona be on IRC a bit today, so any one that wants to contact me should send me forum PMs.
PS For iggy:
I don't really know what you are trying to get at.
I have addressed both of the most likely scenarios for what happened yesterday, and I was the person that contacted muffin (I talked about this a bit on IRC). I was able to convince him
As for why no one is speaking up? it happens rather regularly. Most people don't have any real knowledge, and thus are waiting to see what other people do.
err, ok I actually just read through my logs (I only have them at work, where I am atm <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/tounge.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":p" border="0" alt="tounge.gif" />)
iggy, here are my cards on the table:
I was contacted by the 'seer' who took a leap of faith on me, he listed lolf as a wolf. I worked on convincing a few others to vote lolf as well, then came out my self. The confusion around a few things is b/c I was trying to keep my name outta it (so there was no clear target for the wolves). I came forward because people were doubting it all to much.
The lovers thing is PURE chance, E_Lost actually contacted me (see my sig), trying to get me to change my vote. Not because he didn't think lolf was a wolf (due to an earlier convo with lolf he was rather sure that lolf was a wolf), but b/c he wanted to stay in the game longer. I feel bad for the guy, but I couldn't give up a good chance at a day 1 wolf lynch.
there, cards down, take em or leave em.
I am so gona end up getting wolfed <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/biggrin-fix.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":D" border="0" alt="biggrin-fix.gif" /> But hey, one human (me) in exchange for one, maybe 2, wolves? I will take it.
as it is hard to find in there, I did vote, and here are the new totals:
Current Tally:
Harrower (2.001) - im_lost, doomchica, Phantom
doomchica (1) - Mouse
TheMuffinMan (1) - iggymatrixcounter
im_lost (1) - Thansal
Yet to vote:
Freak83
Xentor
Chakuu
Gwahir
Zor2
TheMuffinMan
Aldaris
Harrower
microcosm
wonedslackystyle
Ana
But as I said, cards on the table, I am rather convinced of this seer atm. I know it is a BIG gamble on my part (and was a big gamble on the seer's part), but it is one that I feel the odds are scewed in my favor for.
If a wolf <i>is</i> playing us then that means that there is another seer out there, a seer with two confirmed humans/wolves. If that's true then until they make their move, the psychic makes his or something else comes up then i'm going to have to stick to my guns.
You can call the seer lucky, but you can also call the seer unlucky in a sense. What do you do when three people are dying a day (that was the predicted result pre-night one, anyway), and you've got no one to trust by the end of day two? Sooner or later you've got to make your findings public, and without anyone to trust that means that as a seer you're going to have to take a leap of faith. The longer we go without action, the stronger a position the wolves are in.
And with the idea of this being a fake seer, how effective would the real seer be after the success of this fake seer?