Jimmy Justice: NYC Resident Busts Cops - Life in the Big Apple

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<div class="IPBDescription">A video vigilante tapes civil servants while they are breaking laws</div><a href="http://www.thebluestate.com/2007/08/post-1.html" target="_blank">Jimmy Justice' NYC Video Vigilante</a>

<!--quoteo--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE</div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->J.J. (Jimmy Justice) keeps an eye out for the traffic agents breaking laws and video tapes the crime in progress i.e. parking their official vehicle in frot of a fire hydrant to run in and grab a cup of coffee or lunch. Traffic agents play an important role in society, and ticket individuals that break the law. Naturally no one wants a ticket and we tend to get angry when we do get one, but that's life and the law. Actual Police Officers get away with their minor crimes, and that's been the way it's been since the beginning of time and will continue to be that way, but traffic agents are not even close to realizing that status.

Anyone who has experienced dealing with the NYC 'personality-less, I have a ticket pad cockiness' of one of these agents know exactly the frustration we experience.

On August 17, 2007 'Live From Studio 1A' ###### Gregory interviewed Jimmy Justice in a piece called 'Q and A With Jimmy Justice' with video HERE.

J.J. currently has 11 videos posted on his YouTube account 'JimmyJustice4753'. and you wouldn't believe some of the responses he receives. You would think the law breakers would be humble and friendly in order to squelch the controversy and not act like 'holier than thou' on a video camera.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->

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  • NeonSpyderNeonSpyder &quot;Das est NTLDR?&quot; Join Date: 2003-07-03 Member: 17913Members
    I guess the only thing I need to know is if it's actually legal for parking enforcement to park in no-parking zones or not.
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  • DepotDepot The ModFather Join Date: 2002-11-09 Member: 7956Members
    I would imagine if they're in the line of duty it's ok. But to run into a restaurant or perform personal business, NOT.
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  • MedHeadMedHead Join Date: 2002-12-19 Member: 11115Members, Constellation
    I've seen these videos around the Internet for some time now, and yet I am still surprised when I see the condition of the police force members he records. Similar to my feelings about citizen driving tests, I think police officers would be able to do their job more effectively if they were required to maintain their health as if they were fresh from the academy, or at least some semblance to how healthy they were around that time. The size of some of those cops is astonishing: how in the world do they think they can respond to an emergency in that condition?
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  • DepotDepot The ModFather Join Date: 2002-11-09 Member: 7956Members
    What he said ^^^, yeah.
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  • TychoCelchuuuTychoCelchuuu Anememone Join Date: 2002-03-23 Member: 345Members
    I think on the scale of "police abuses in New York City we should worry about," "illegal parking to grab a cup of coffee" ranks somewhat under "illegal surveillance of peaceful war protest meetings" and "infiltration by police agents of perfectly legal groups of citizens." I mean honestly if you want to get on the NYPD's case, there's a ton of ridiculous stuff they do that's damaging to the very fiber of our nation, and parking in front of a fire hydrant for 5 minutes isn't one of those things.
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  • MedHeadMedHead Join Date: 2002-12-19 Member: 11115Members, Constellation
    edited October 2007
    Yes Tycho, but just because there are bigger problems doesn't mean we can't also notice the small ones, nor should we consider ourselves incapable of working on more than one problem at a time.
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  • TychoCelchuuuTychoCelchuuu Anememone Join Date: 2002-03-23 Member: 345Members
    Yeah, but there's no way you're ever going to get cops to stop abusing their power by parking in front of fire hydrants for 5 minutes if, while they're actually doing their jobs, they're abusing their power by secretly spying on innocent citizens for no reason other than they think they ought to. It's like spending all your efforts trying to get drug addicts to stop littering when they finish using their hypodermic needles. The problem won't go away until you address the larger issue. Even if you could mercilessly hound the police into parking correctly, there's still going to be a million other things. You have to get to the root of the problem, which is the abuse of power, and you can't do that by going in from the side and saying "well gee Mr. Officer Sir, you can't really park there! Golly, what if the place caught on fire?"
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  • LikuLiku I, am the Somberlain. Join Date: 2003-01-10 Member: 12128Members
    Yeah, it's pretty petty "problem." Oh no! They're parking in a no parking zone, good lawdy!
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  • PerfectionsFlawPerfectionsFlaw Join Date: 2003-02-14 Member: 13555Members
    Obviously the real answer here is to set the place the cop is in on fire so that the firemen can come and bash the police car's windows out so they can run their hose to the hydrant. That would learn em good.
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  • QuaunautQuaunaut The longest seven days in history... Join Date: 2003-03-21 Member: 14759Members, Constellation, Reinforced - Shadow
    <!--quoteo(post=1656420:date=Oct 17 2007, 03:50 AM:name=PerfectionsFlaw)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(PerfectionsFlaw @ Oct 17 2007, 03:50 AM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1656420"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->Obviously the real answer here is to set the place the cop is in on fire so that the firemen can come and bash the police car's windows out so they can run their hose to the hydrant. That would learn em good.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    When I read this I automatically started looking for the Thumbs Up button to digg this.
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  • NEX9NEX9 Join Date: 2005-03-08 Member: 44299Members
    accutauly i think this is on you tube some were, fire truck pulls up next to a porche, fire man jumps out grabs a hose, axes thru the front wind sheild and the pssanger side window climbs in, climbs out the other side, hose in toe, hooks it up and they fight the fire, the owners pissed and a cop still writes him a ticket.
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  • PerfectionsFlawPerfectionsFlaw Join Date: 2003-02-14 Member: 13555Members
    <!--quoteo(post=1656529:date=Oct 17 2007, 08:48 PM:name=NEX9)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(NEX9 @ Oct 17 2007, 08:48 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1656529"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->accutauly i think this is on you tube some were, fire truck pulls up next to a porche, fire man jumps out grabs a hose, axes thru the front wind sheild and the pssanger side window climbs in, climbs out the other side, hose in toe, hooks it up and they fight the fire, the owners pissed and a cop still writes him a ticket.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    Never seen it on youtube but I know it's been done. I've never seen it done to a cop car before though. However, I think it'd be hard for a firefighter to climb through a porche.. It's more likely they smashed the windows and passed the hose through to his buddy. Legally that's about all they can do, if they damage anything other than the windows and the interior they'd probably have to pay for it.
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  • MedHeadMedHead Join Date: 2002-12-19 Member: 11115Members, Constellation
    <!--quoteo(post=1656365:date=Oct 16 2007, 06:22 PM:name=TychoCelchuuu)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(TychoCelchuuu @ Oct 16 2007, 06:22 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1656365"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->The problem won't go away until you address the larger issue.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    We can address <b>both</b> problems at the same time! Just because there's a "bigger issue" doesn't mean that everything else must be ignored.
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  • AbraAbra Would you kindly Join Date: 2003-08-17 Member: 19870Members
    Or even better; just set fire to a police car while screaming "F0rk the police!" and doing flip kicks to the curb, at anything.
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  • Private_ColemanPrivate_Coleman PhD in Video Games Join Date: 2002-11-07 Member: 7510Members
    Although legitimate, I believe at least some form of triage should endure so that more serious breaches in police corruption are treated before worrying about minor issues. If he really wants to make a difference he could spend all the time he is using up filming petty offences and focus on one major issue.

    But whatever if he doesn't want to do that fine, I can't really fault the guy.
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  • ScytheScythe Join Date: 2002-01-25 Member: 46NS1 Playtester, Forum Moderators, Constellation, Reinforced - Silver
    I don't see the big issue here. The laws apply to everyone. If it's illegal to park there, it's illegal to park there. Being a police officer doesn't make you immune to the law. They should get a ticket like anyone else. Simple.

    --Scythe--
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  • HazeHaze O RLY? Join Date: 2003-07-07 Member: 18018Members, Constellation
    That dudes a ######. He may be a ###### in the right, but man. What a ######.
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  • Private_ColemanPrivate_Coleman PhD in Video Games Join Date: 2002-11-07 Member: 7510Members
    edited October 2007
    <!--quoteo(post=1656863:date=Oct 20 2007, 05:51 AM:name=Haze)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Haze @ Oct 20 2007, 05:51 AM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1656863"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->That dudes a ######. He may be a ###### in the right, but man. What a ######.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    You're ###### right, ###### should ###### not ###### stir ###### the ###### ###### up. ######.

    edit: on the flipside; ###### ###### ###### it?
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  • AbraAbra Would you kindly Join Date: 2003-08-17 Member: 19870Members
    ######, yeah.
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  • HazeHaze O RLY? Join Date: 2003-07-07 Member: 18018Members, Constellation
    I'll say penis next time.
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  • SkulkBaitSkulkBait Join Date: 2003-02-11 Member: 13423Members
    I don't care if he is just focusing on minor offenses like parking violations, the US could really use a lot more JimmyJustices. The police are getting away with a lot of illegal ###### these days. There was a guy in the news not that far back who refused a "voluntary" search and supposedly equally "voluntary" request for his DL (he was not driving), was arrested, searched, and charged with obstructing justice. So even though he was in the right, and this cop violated his rights as a citizen, he ends up paying legal fees and the cop doesn't get so much as a wag of the finger. And its not like his case was unique or rare either.

    Heres hoping JimmyJustice spawns many imitators.
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  • SwiftspearSwiftspear Custim tital Join Date: 2003-10-29 Member: 22097Members
    I don't really like the guy from the videos... but I think he's paving an important path. Sociaty has generated some amazing new tools. Camera phones that pretty much everyone takes everywhere, and the internet which is able to pretty much immediately make those videos public domain. People like police officers are supposed to be accountable to sociaty and to the public, we now have the tools for any and every citizen to directly record their transgressions. IMO police work isn't the kind of thing where you can just do the base minimum job and expect that to be satisfactory, now the public has the ability to hold police accountable when in the past they might have been able to let themselfs slip alot more.
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  • [WHO]Them[WHO]Them You can call me Dave Join Date: 2002-12-11 Member: 10593Members, Constellation
    What the <b>hell</b> people?

    I really don't understand were you guys can come off with all this arrogance. This community isn't the place for your belittlement of someones ability to follow the laws they enforce, and no I'm not talking about some parking enforcers in New York, but the majority of blanket statements to this topic. There isn't a difference between making fun of someones race, color, limitations, or law enforcement standards.

    Grow up.
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  • TychoCelchuuuTychoCelchuuu Anememone Join Date: 2002-03-23 Member: 345Members
    <!--quoteo(post=1657706:date=Oct 25 2007, 12:51 PM:name=T_h_e_m)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(T_h_e_m @ Oct 25 2007, 12:51 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1657706"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->What the <b>hell</b> people?

    I really don't understand were you guys can come off with all this arrogance. This community isn't the place for your belittlement of someones ability to follow the laws they enforce, and no I'm not talking about some parking enforcers in New York, but the majority of blanket statements to this topic. There isn't a difference between making fun of someones race, color, limitations, or law enforcement standards.

    Grow up.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    /nominates for Post of the Year Award, 2007




    <span style='color:#000000;background:#000000'>http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=103017&st=40&start=40</span>
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  • SwiftspearSwiftspear Custim tital Join Date: 2003-10-29 Member: 22097Members
    <!--quoteo(post=1657706:date=Oct 25 2007, 12:51 PM:name=T_h_e_m)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(T_h_e_m @ Oct 25 2007, 12:51 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1657706"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->What the <b>hell</b> people?

    I really don't understand were you guys can come off with all this arrogance. This community isn't the place for your belittlement of someones ability to follow the laws they enforce, and no I'm not talking about some parking enforcers in New York, but the majority of blanket statements to this topic. There isn't a difference between making fun of someones race, color, limitations, or law enforcement standards.

    Grow up.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Seriously?

    The ability for someone to do their job effectively IS up to public criticism IMO when their job is <b>protecting and serving the public</b>
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  • TychoCelchuuuTychoCelchuuu Anememone Join Date: 2002-03-23 Member: 345Members
    <!--quoteo(post=1657759:date=Oct 25 2007, 04:23 PM:name=Swiftspear)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Swiftspear @ Oct 25 2007, 04:23 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1657759"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->Seriously?

    The ability for someone to do their job effectively IS up to public criticism IMO when their job is <b>protecting and serving the public</b><!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    /nominates for Missed the Point of the Year Award, 2007
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  • SwiftspearSwiftspear Custim tital Join Date: 2003-10-29 Member: 22097Members
    Bah, internet sarcasm. Fux it.
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  • Private_ColemanPrivate_Coleman PhD in Video Games Join Date: 2002-11-07 Member: 7510Members
    edited October 2007
    If anyone doesn't get the joke, then (I never thought I would say this) follow tycho's link. <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/sad-fix.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":(" border="0" alt="sad-fix.gif" />
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  • PerfectionsFlawPerfectionsFlaw Join Date: 2003-02-14 Member: 13555Members
    I'm lost as to what just happened between Swiftspear and [who]them. Mainly because [who]them's post is confusing.
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  • MedHeadMedHead Join Date: 2002-12-19 Member: 11115Members, Constellation
    <!--quoteo(post=1658449:date=Oct 30 2007, 12:09 AM:name=PerfectionsFlaw)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(PerfectionsFlaw @ Oct 30 2007, 12:09 AM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1658449"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->I'm lost as to what just happened between Swiftspear and [who]them. Mainly because [who]them's post is confusing.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Tycho's post with the blacked-out text explained it pretty well:

    <a href="http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=103017&st=40&start=40" target="_blank">http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/index....40&start=40</a>

    (that was the blacked-out text)
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