Rosetta Stone: Sucking the res

DepotDepot The ModFather Join Date: 2002-11-09 Member: 7956Members
<div class="IPBDescription">language learning program</div>I've recently installed Rosetta Stone on my PC, and it's everything it's cracked up to be.

Thing is, as I progress with my lessons the proggy starts sucking resources and gets laggy. Mind you, I've got a decent PC here and have no issues whatsoever with it, but I've checked my Task Manager when this thing gets slow and have seen it over 400,000k.

It's a minor inconvenience, as I can easily restart the proggy, but why does it use so many resources?

...just curious.
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  • ThansalThansal The New Scum Join Date: 2002-08-22 Member: 1215Members, Constellation
    because it has a memory leak?

    check their website/tech support for a patch.
  • locallyunscenelocallyunscene Feeder of Trolls Join Date: 2002-12-25 Member: 11528Members, Constellation
    <!--quoteo(post=1682853:date=Jul 9 2008, 09:40 AM:name=Depot)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Depot @ Jul 9 2008, 09:40 AM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1682853"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->I've recently installed Rosetta Stone on my PC, and it's everything it's cracked up to be.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Which language are you learning? I'm intrigued that you say it's good. Anything in particular that makes you say that?
  • DepotDepot The ModFather Join Date: 2002-11-09 Member: 7956Members
    <!--quoteo(post=1682854:date=Jul 9 2008, 09:49 AM:name=Thansal)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Thansal @ Jul 9 2008, 09:49 AM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1682854"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->because it has a memory leak?

    check their website/tech support for a patch.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Good idea, I'll try that.

    <!--quoteo(post=1682855:date=Jul 9 2008, 10:03 AM:name=locallyunscene)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(locallyunscene @ Jul 9 2008, 10:03 AM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1682855"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->Which language are you learning? I'm intrigued that you say it's good. Anything in particular that makes you say that?<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    I have the Levels 1, 2, and 3 of Spanish installed - my g/f's Puerto Rican and although she is fluent in English, whenever we're amongst friends or family I'm left scratching my head. Research showed me this is one of the most popular language learning programs around, and it uses a process called "Dynamic Immersion" that teaches you new languages not via translation, but more like you learned your native language as a child (showing images and using pronunciation).

    I'm to old to be taught new tricks, but this works well. <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/tounge.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":p" border="0" alt="tounge.gif" /> It retails for $500.00usd, but of course is available through warez or what-have-you.
  • moultanomoultano Creator of ns_shiva. Join Date: 2002-12-14 Member: 10806Members, NS1 Playtester, Contributor, Constellation, NS2 Playtester, Squad Five Blue, Reinforced - Shadow, WC 2013 - Gold, NS2 Community Developer, Pistachionauts
    <!--quoteo(post=1682864:date=Jul 9 2008, 09:37 AM:name=Depot)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Depot @ Jul 9 2008, 09:37 AM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1682864"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->Good idea, I'll try that.
    I have the Levels 1, 2, and 3 of Spanish installed - my g/f's Puerto Rican and although she is fluent in English, whenever we're amongst friends or family I'm left scratching my head. Research showed me this is one of the most popular language learning programs around, and it uses a process called "Dynamic Immersion" that teaches you new languages not via translation, but more like you learned your native language as a child (showing images and using pronunciation).

    I'm to old to be taught new tricks, but this works well. <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/tounge.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":p" border="0" alt="tounge.gif" /> It retails for $500.00usd, but of course is available through warez or what-have-you.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Same situation here, my girlfriend is Indian and I'm using it to learn Hindi. I've been very irregular about it, but when we went to a hindi movie a week ago I actually understood some of the sentences! <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/smile-fix.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":)" border="0" alt="smile-fix.gif" /> I'm awful at learning languages too.
  • DepotDepot The ModFather Join Date: 2002-11-09 Member: 7956Members
    <!--quoteo(post=1682854:date=Jul 9 2008, 09:49 AM:name=Thansal)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Thansal @ Jul 9 2008, 09:49 AM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1682854"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->because it has a memory leak?

    check their website/tech support for a patch.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Patched it, borked it, had to uninstall / reinstall. <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/sad-fix.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":(" border="0" alt="sad-fix.gif" />

    moultano, you have RS installed also?
  • ThansalThansal The New Scum Join Date: 2002-08-22 Member: 1215Members, Constellation
    <!--quoteo(post=1682870:date=Jul 9 2008, 11:12 AM:name=Depot)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Depot @ Jul 9 2008, 11:12 AM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1682870"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->Patched it, borked it, had to uninstall / reinstall. <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/sad-fix.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":(" border="0" alt="sad-fix.gif" />

    moultano, you have RS installed also?<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    not my fault they make faulty products

    or that you pirated it and the crack was fixed in the patch your just applied.
  • lolfighterlolfighter Snark, Dire Join Date: 2003-04-20 Member: 15693Members
    He didn't SAY it was your fault, he just indicated that he was not happy that it didn't work.
  • DepotDepot The ModFather Join Date: 2002-11-09 Member: 7956Members
    <!--quoteo(post=1682875:date=Jul 9 2008, 11:43 AM:name=lolfighter)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(lolfighter @ Jul 9 2008, 11:43 AM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1682875"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->He didn't SAY it was your fault, he just indicated that he was not happy that it didn't work.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Perceptive you are amigo, gracias.

    Reinstallation was a snap, but reinstalling the language packs is tedious/timeconsuming.


    I am more interested in fixing this resource issue so I can install this on my g/f's laptop tbh. As it is now there's no way it could handle this.
  • remiremi remedy [blu.knight] Join Date: 2003-11-18 Member: 23112Members, Super Administrators, Forum Admins, NS2 Developer, NS2 Playtester
    I think I might try this out. I figured it would be a whole waste of money. I didn't consider the "try before you buy" style. <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/tounge.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":p" border="0" alt="tounge.gif" />

    I've been wanting to solidify and continue my basic education in Japanese. <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/tounge.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":p" border="0" alt="tounge.gif" />
  • spellman23spellman23 NS1 Theorycraft Expert Join Date: 2007-05-17 Member: 60920Members
    I took 3 years of spanish. don't remember much.

    Want to learn Japanese or Chinese in case US goes bork.
  • remiremi remedy [blu.knight] Join Date: 2003-11-18 Member: 23112Members, Super Administrators, Forum Admins, NS2 Developer, NS2 Playtester
    depot, what version of RS are you running?

    I'm installing 3.2.11 now, so I'll see if I get any memory leakage.
  • KungFuDiscoMonkeyKungFuDiscoMonkey Creator of ns_altair 日本福岡県 Join Date: 2003-03-15 Member: 14555Members, NS1 Playtester, Reinforced - Onos
    <!--quoteo(post=1682888:date=Jul 9 2008, 11:10 AM:name=Psyke)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Psyke @ Jul 9 2008, 11:10 AM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1682888"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->I think I might try this out. I figured it would be a whole waste of money. I didn't consider the "try before you buy" style. <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/tounge.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":p" border="0" alt="tounge.gif" />

    I've been wanting to solidify and continue my basic education in Japanese. <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/tounge.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":p" border="0" alt="tounge.gif" /><!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->


    <!--quoteo(post=1682890:date=Jul 9 2008, 11:14 AM:name=spellman23)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(spellman23 @ Jul 9 2008, 11:14 AM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1682890"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->I took 3 years of spanish. don't remember much.

    Want to learn Japanese or Chinese in case US goes bork.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    I started a class in Japanese a few weeks ago but before that I had mostly been using online resources.

    @Depot, is it lagging after using the program for a long time or just starts lagging right from the beginning.
  • DepotDepot The ModFather Join Date: 2002-11-09 Member: 7956Members
    <!--quoteo(post=1682898:date=Jul 9 2008, 03:00 PM:name=Psyke)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Psyke @ Jul 9 2008, 03:00 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1682898"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->depot, what version of RS are you running?

    I'm installing 3.2.11 now, so I'll see if I get any memory leakage.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    3.2.11 is what I have also.

    <!--quoteo(post=1682909:date=Jul 9 2008, 04:46 PM:name=KungFuDiscoMonkey)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(KungFuDiscoMonkey @ Jul 9 2008, 04:46 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1682909"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->I started a class in Japanese a few weeks ago but before that I had mostly been using online resources.

    @Depot, is it lagging after using the program for a long time or just starts lagging right from the beginning.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    It gets laggy as time progresses. It starts off using < 100k of res, and as the lesson goes on progresses to over 400k.
  • KungFuDiscoMonkeyKungFuDiscoMonkey Creator of ns_altair 日本福岡県 Join Date: 2003-03-15 Member: 14555Members, NS1 Playtester, Reinforced - Onos
    So is it by the end of a single lesson that it bogs down or after several? Does sound like a memory leak though. Like others have said, your best bet is probably to find a patch that addresses those issues.
  • ZaggyZaggy NullPointerException The Netherlands Join Date: 2003-12-10 Member: 24214Forum Moderators, NS2 Playtester, Reinforced - Onos, Subnautica Playtester
    edited July 2008
    To check what the program is doing (read/writes on hdd) : <a href="http://www.microsoft.com/technet/sysinternals/processesandthreads/filemon.mspx" target="_blank">http://www.microsoft.com/technet/sysintern...ds/filemon.mspx</a>

    and

    <a href="http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/sysinternals/bb896653.aspx" target="_blank">http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/sysinte...s/bb896653.aspx</a>

    Also:

    <!--quoteo--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE</div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->512 RAM (available)<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    From the <a href="http://www.rosettastone.com/global/support/system-requirements" target="_blank">System Requirements</a>

    Apparantly it's just a very bulky application.


    --
    This one is free: <a href="http://www.byki.com/" target="_blank">http://www.byki.com/</a> and doesn't use that much resources.

    No Bulgarish on that Rosetta Stone <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/sad-fix.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":(" border="0" alt="sad-fix.gif" />

    Free translation software: <a href="http://www.lingoes.net/" target="_blank">http://www.lingoes.net/</a>
  • DepotDepot The ModFather Join Date: 2002-11-09 Member: 7956Members
    <!--quoteo(post=1682919:date=Jul 9 2008, 06:14 PM:name=KungFuDiscoMonkey)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(KungFuDiscoMonkey @ Jul 9 2008, 06:14 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1682919"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->So is it by the end of a single lesson that it bogs down or after several? Does sound like a memory leak though. Like others have said, your best bet is probably to find a patch that addresses those issues.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    After several lessons it bogs down... still usable but I can tell it's getting worse. I'll try the patch again, and hope for better luck.

    <!--quoteo(post=1682938:date=Jul 10 2008, 02:55 AM:name=Zaggy)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Zaggy @ Jul 10 2008, 02:55 AM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1682938"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->To check what the program is doing (read/writes on hdd) : <a href="http://www.microsoft.com/technet/sysinternals/processesandthreads/filemon.mspx" target="_blank">http://www.microsoft.com/technet/sysintern...ds/filemon.mspx</a>

    and

    <a href="http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/sysinternals/bb896653.aspx" target="_blank">http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/sysinte...s/bb896653.aspx</a>

    Also:
    From the <a href="http://www.rosettastone.com/global/support/system-requirements" target="_blank">System Requirements</a>

    Apparantly it's just a very bulky application.
    --
    This one is free: <a href="http://www.byki.com/" target="_blank">http://www.byki.com/</a> and doesn't use that much resources.

    No Bulgarish on that Rosetta Stone <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/sad-fix.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":(" border="0" alt="sad-fix.gif" />

    Free translation software: <a href="http://www.lingoes.net/" target="_blank">http://www.lingoes.net/</a><!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Thanks, I'll try these.

    Sorry about the missing Bulgarian. <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/sad-fix.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":(" border="0" alt="sad-fix.gif" />
  • DepotDepot The ModFather Join Date: 2002-11-09 Member: 7956Members
    <!--quoteo(post=1682898:date=Jul 9 2008, 03:00 PM:name=Psyke)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Psyke @ Jul 9 2008, 03:00 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1682898"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->depot, what version of RS are you running?

    I'm installing 3.2.11 now, so I'll see if I get any memory leakage.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    I was mistaken about my version - I have just successfully upgraded to 3.2.11.

    We'll see if this rectifies the memory leakage issue. Have yet to follow Zaggy's advice yet.
  • KungFuDiscoMonkeyKungFuDiscoMonkey Creator of ns_altair 日本福岡県 Join Date: 2003-03-15 Member: 14555Members, NS1 Playtester, Reinforced - Onos
    <!--quoteo(post=1682938:date=Jul 9 2008, 11:55 PM:name=Zaggy)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Zaggy @ Jul 9 2008, 11:55 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1682938"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->This one is free: <a href="http://www.byki.com/" target="_blank">http://www.byki.com/</a> and doesn't use that much resources.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    I just tried that with Japanese. Interesting program. Thanks for the link.
  • remiremi remedy [blu.knight] Join Date: 2003-11-18 Member: 23112Members, Super Administrators, Forum Admins, NS2 Developer, NS2 Playtester
    <!--quoteo(post=1682949:date=Jul 10 2008, 09:33 AM:name=KungFuDiscoMonkey)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(KungFuDiscoMonkey @ Jul 10 2008, 09:33 AM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1682949"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->I just tried that with Japanese. Interesting program. Thanks for the link.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    How does it compare with Rosetta?
  • DepotDepot The ModFather Join Date: 2002-11-09 Member: 7956Members
    Anyone who is fluent in Spanish have advice on exercises how to "roll the r's"?
  • spellman23spellman23 NS1 Theorycraft Expert Join Date: 2007-05-17 Member: 60920Members
    heh.

    Think of the motor sound you make with your mouth where you rap your tongue on the top of your mouth. Or try to imitate a cat growl/purr. It comes down to rapid vibrations of the tongue.

    At least, that's what I've been taught. Not a native spanish speaker.
  • remiremi remedy [blu.knight] Join Date: 2003-11-18 Member: 23112Members, Super Administrators, Forum Admins, NS2 Developer, NS2 Playtester
    <!--quoteo(post=1682958:date=Jul 10 2008, 11:51 AM:name=spellman23)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(spellman23 @ Jul 10 2008, 11:51 AM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1682958"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->heh.

    Think of the motor sound you make with your mouth where you rap your tongue on the top of your mouth. Or try to imitate a cat growl/purr. It comes down to rapid vibrations of the tongue.

    At least, that's what I've been taught. Not a native spanish speaker.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    My problem with trying to roll an r is I end up doing it the (i think) german way, and do it using my throat.
    I can make a cool bird-like whistle because of it and a very convincing purr/growl, but I don't use my tongue and so I wouldn't be a very good spanish speaker. <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/sad-fix.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":(" border="0" alt="sad-fix.gif" />
  • tjosantjosan Join Date: 2003-05-16 Member: 16374Members, Constellation
    try smacking your tongue against the front part of your palate just behind your teeth in such a way that you make that smacking sound. then when you got that start blowing out small quantities of air while doing the same noice, and you'll notice how it burrs. that's the position of the tongue, just have to give it some resonance and you've got the rrrrr <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/wink-fix.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=";)" border="0" alt="wink-fix.gif" />

    good luck
  • La ChupacabraLa Chupacabra Join Date: 2008-02-25 Member: 63729Members
    <!--quoteo(post=1682952:date=Jul 10 2008, 03:14 PM:name=Psyke)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Psyke @ Jul 10 2008, 03:14 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1682952"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec--><!--quoteo--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE</div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->I just tried that with Japanese. Interesting program. Thanks for the link.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    How does it compare with Rosetta?
    <!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Didn't want that to be forgotten on the previous page, cuz I'm really interested in that too!
  • remiremi remedy [blu.knight] Join Date: 2003-11-18 Member: 23112Members, Super Administrators, Forum Admins, NS2 Developer, NS2 Playtester
    <!--quoteo(post=1683312:date=Jul 14 2008, 04:59 AM:name=tjosan)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(tjosan @ Jul 14 2008, 04:59 AM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1683312"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->try smacking your tongue against the front part of your palate just behind your teeth in such a way that you make that smacking sound. then when you got that start blowing out small quantities of air while doing the same noice, and you'll notice how it burrs. that's the position of the tongue, just have to give it some resonance and you've got the rrrrr <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/wink-fix.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=";)" border="0" alt="wink-fix.gif" />

    good luck<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    I almost had it, but then I started doing the throat thing by accident and lost it. <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/sad-fix.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":(" border="0" alt="sad-fix.gif" />
  • DepotDepot The ModFather Join Date: 2002-11-09 Member: 7956Members
    <!--quoteo(post=1683312:date=Jul 14 2008, 04:59 AM:name=tjosan)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(tjosan @ Jul 14 2008, 04:59 AM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1683312"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->try smacking your tongue against the front part of your palate just behind your teeth in such a way that you make that smacking sound. then when you got that start blowing out small quantities of air while doing the same noice, and you'll notice how it burrs. that's the position of the tongue, just have to give it some resonance and you've got the rrrrr <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/wink-fix.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=";)" border="0" alt="wink-fix.gif" />

    good luck<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    I am sucking at this.... ... .. . <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/confused-fix.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid="???" border="0" alt="confused-fix.gif" />
  • TychoCelchuuuTychoCelchuuu Anememone Join Date: 2002-03-23 Member: 345Members
    <!--quoteo(post=1683337:date=Jul 14 2008, 09:12 AM:name=Depot)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Depot @ Jul 14 2008, 09:12 AM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1683337"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->I am sucking at this.... ... .. . <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/confused-fix.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid="???" border="0" alt="confused-fix.gif" /><!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    I can't do it either. Just be glad it's not absolutely necessary when speaking Spanish.
  • KungFuDiscoMonkeyKungFuDiscoMonkey Creator of ns_altair 日本福岡県 Join Date: 2003-03-15 Member: 14555Members, NS1 Playtester, Reinforced - Onos
    edited July 2008
    <!--quoteo(post=1683315:date=Jul 14 2008, 02:42 AM:name=La Chupacabra)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(La Chupacabra @ Jul 14 2008, 02:42 AM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1683315"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->How does it compare with Rosetta?

    Didn't want that to be forgotten on the previous page, cuz I'm really interested in that too!<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    I've only briefly used Rosetta stone. The program Zaggy linked was neat for me to practice some words but I don't think it would really teach you the language.


    I was pretty bad at Spanish when I took it in High School and I could never roll my r properly.
  • DepotDepot The ModFather Join Date: 2002-11-09 Member: 7956Members
    Ok, now I don't feel so bad. <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/smile-fix.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":)" border="0" alt="smile-fix.gif" />
  • spellman23spellman23 NS1 Theorycraft Expert Join Date: 2007-05-17 Member: 60920Members
    Fun fact, it's also something you can do for advanced flute sounds. =]

    But yeah, rolling sounds is one of the weirder parts. I guess I can only do it since I've always liked making weird sound effects using my mouth. Unfortunately, I'm not beatbox level.

    Still looking for a good program to learn languages then, or are we settling for Rosetta as long as we can take the performance hit?
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