<!--quoteo(post=1797335:date=Sep 2 2010, 04:47 PM:name=cmc5788)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (cmc5788 @ Sep 2 2010, 04:47 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1797335"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->They could have, but if you listen to some of the more recent interviews, you'll notice that they're really running on fumes in terms of budget at this point. Netcode is (relatively) uncomplicated to roll out for yourself, so it wasn't a bad choice.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Too bad they can't get as many preorders as Minecraft. That dude gets like 3k - 4k orders a day.
<!--quoteo(post=1797337:date=Sep 2 2010, 04:16 PM:name=rsd)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (rsd @ Sep 2 2010, 04:16 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1797337"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->There is a link from the main page. News -> Progress<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd--> Ahh thx. Hadn't seen it.
<!--quoteo(post=1797335:date=Sep 2 2010, 05:47 PM:name=cmc5788)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (cmc5788 @ Sep 2 2010, 05:47 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1797335"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->They could have, but if you listen to some of the more recent interviews, you'll notice that they're really running on fumes in terms of budget at this point.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Hmm didn't know. So, just thinking back on past events: they sell the alpha only up to a specific date presumably so no one can wait till after it's released, and after it's on youtube, to decide if they really want to spend $50. i.e. they did this to make some money, because they obviously needed it.
It seems likely, depending on how limited their resources are, that they are trying to fix all the egregious problems with the alpha so they can, in the near future, sell alpha access and upgrades for some limited time (or all time leading up to the beta). And maybe some dlc offers down the road for a taser right? :P
<!--quoteo(post=1797416:date=Sep 3 2010, 09:49 AM:name=FocusedWolf)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (FocusedWolf @ Sep 3 2010, 09:49 AM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1797416"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->It seems likely, depending on how limited their resources are, that they are trying to fix all the egregious problems with the alpha so they can, in the near future, sell alpha access and upgrades for some limited time<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Yeah I think they did mention that they were going to reopen special edition preorders at some point for a little bit, but I'm not sure what the status of that is.
I'd imagine bots or AIs are already in for builders/nymphs and the eventual babblers of the crag. It seems the super simple bots are more for standing in as players to test making squads and such. They may have more features for testing netcode as well. I can't see how having bots would really stress the netcode like a real server full of players, but I could see how having bot "players" running around would help determine where things are going amiss in client-side prediction and such.
The bots would basically give the coders and testers more ways of making test cases for all the bugs and features without requiring more real people pushing buttons.
<!--quoteo(post=1792547:date=Aug 6 2010, 10:41 PM:name=Triggerman)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Triggerman @ Aug 6 2010, 10:41 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1792547"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->Thread is apparently Flayra approved. I'm not sure if we are to add changes we want to see on the technical part, or simply comment on the gameplay-notes? For on the...
I can say it works just as bad for chat as well. E.g I couldn't write "?" or even periods since they weren't on the same place on my keyboard. Made me feel a lot dumber writing stuff in the chat since it looked like I couldn't type properly at all, so I'd like for that to be looked into at some point. User of a Swedish keyboard.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
<!--quoteo(post=1797512:date=Sep 4 2010, 03:07 AM:name=spellman23)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (spellman23 @ Sep 4 2010, 03:07 AM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1797512"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->Might also be simple bots to help test netcode by simulating client actions.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
<!--quoteo(post=1797512:date=Sep 4 2010, 05:07 AM:name=spellman23)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (spellman23 @ Sep 4 2010, 05:07 AM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1797512"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->Might also be simple bots to help test netcode by simulating client actions.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
<!--quoteo(post=1797324:date=Sep 3 2010, 04:32 AM:name=Ezekiel)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Ezekiel @ Sep 3 2010, 04:32 AM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1797324"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->it is patently obvious.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd--> It really isn't. The tags aren't, dare I say, intuitive. "Started", "Finished", yes. "Delivered", "Accepted" - there is nothing <b>clear</b> about that.
<!--quoteo(post=1797324:date=Sep 3 2010, 04:32 AM:name=Ezekiel)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Ezekiel @ Sep 3 2010, 04:32 AM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1797324"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec--><b>it has been discussed repeatedly.</b> <i>no wading, or even going into the forums needed to work out what they mean, a tiny bit of actual thinking.</i><!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd--> Ah, now see, that's a different story. You've <b><i>contradicted</i></b> yourself. The fact is you can't really comment that 'it is obvious and only requires a little bit of thinking' because you've already read all the discussion, and the official word on it. You've got a hindsight bias.
That's beside the point though. There's no real reason why they can't describe them on the progress page (or the first page of this thread which is linked to from the progress page) to quell constant repetition of the same query. Not that it should bother them, really; if I were them I'd just ignore it (as they seem to be doing already).
Next patch looks like it's going to be HUGE. From all the fixes/new features/bug fixes, we'll have a playable game that we'll be able to play to death ;-)
<!--quoteo(post=1797686:date=Sep 6 2010, 10:51 AM:name=Harimau)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Harimau @ Sep 6 2010, 10:51 AM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1797686"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->It really isn't. The tags aren't, dare I say, intuitive. "Started", "Finished", yes. "Delivered", "Accepted" - there is nothing <b>clear</b> about that.
Ah, now see, that's a different story. You've <b><i>contradicted</i></b> yourself. The fact is you can't really comment that 'it is obvious and only requires a little bit of thinking' because you've already read all the discussion, and the official word on it. You've got a hindsight bias.
That's beside the point though. There's no real reason why they can't describe them on the progress page (or the first page of this thread which is linked to from the progress page) to quell constant repetition of the same query. Not that it should bother them, really; if I were them I'd just ignore it (as they seem to be doing already).<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd--> Where do I contradict myself? You'll have trouble...
And no actually, I had "worked out" what they meant before all this asking on the forums and subsequent explaning by staff and others. Because I'm not a complete moron, and because it's obvious in the context of the tracker.
Also, could you be less transparent with your ###### awful trolling?
ssjyodaJoin Date: 2002-03-05Member: 274Members, Squad Five Blue
edited September 2010
well maybe harimau is a complete moron.... ever think of that. maybe things should be even more clear and obvious with big bright popups that annoy the people that can think for themselves... :-P just for him. how about have the popups come up with music also, that you can't turn off at all. Then its really in your face, but unavoidable.. Harimau - you gotta ask yourself, where does it end and common sense should take over.
<!--quoteo(post=1797744:date=Sep 6 2010, 02:07 PM:name=Turbosniglen)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Turbosniglen @ Sep 6 2010, 02:07 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1797744"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->Baw every time I see player warping being "Started" and everything around it being finished :(<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd--> Most of the other tasks are in some way related to this issue.
<!--quoteo(post=1797862:date=Sep 7 2010, 11:54 PM:name=Max)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Max @ Sep 7 2010, 11:54 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1797862"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->Most of the other tasks are in some way related to this issue.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd--> <3
<!--quoteo(post=1797724:date=Sep 7 2010, 01:54 AM:name=ssjyoda)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (ssjyoda @ Sep 7 2010, 01:54 AM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1797724"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->well maybe harimau is a complete moron.... ever think of that. maybe things should be even more clear and obvious with big bright popups that annoy the people that can think for themselves... :-P just for him. how about have the popups come up with music also, that you can't turn off at all. Then its really in your face, but unavoidable.. Harimau - you gotta ask yourself, where does it end and common sense should take over.
or maybe he is trolling with nothing else to do.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd--> I like that someone who has a terrible inability to type properly is calling me a moron. Edit: Wow. I didn't even read your post entirely. I shouldn't have even bothered to say anything. Your post stands well enough on its own.
Also, Ezekiel, I used bold and italics for a reason. I even held your hand when it came to getting you to think but you still wouldn't cross that road.
<!--quoteo(post=1798028:date=Sep 9 2010, 06:07 AM:name=DJPenguin)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (DJPenguin @ Sep 9 2010, 06:07 AM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1798028"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->the original didn't. which is me. SEE WHERE I'M GOING WITH THIS?<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd--> bawwwwwwwww
Kouji_SanSr. Hινε UÏкεεÏεг - EUPT DeputyThe NetherlandsJoin Date: 2003-05-13Member: 16271Members, NS2 Playtester, Squad Five Blue
edited September 2010
That is probably a problem either on your end or server-side authentication while loading the page, CTRL+F5 the page might do the trick (firefox hard refresh). Or it is temporarily unavailable and stuff
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Too bad they can't get as many preorders as Minecraft.
That dude gets like 3k - 4k orders a day.
Ahh thx. Hadn't seen it.
Hmm didn't know. So, just thinking back on past events: they sell the alpha only up to a specific date presumably so no one can wait till after it's released, and after it's on youtube, to decide if they really want to spend $50. i.e. they did this to make some money, because they obviously needed it.
It seems likely, depending on how limited their resources are, that they are trying to fix all the egregious problems with the alpha so they can, in the near future, sell alpha access and upgrades for some limited time (or all time leading up to the beta). And maybe some dlc offers down the road for a taser right? :P
Yeah I think they did mention that they were going to reopen special edition preorders at some point for a little bit, but I'm not sure what the status of that is.
Simple is simple but super simple?
I am assuming that these are bots to test way points or do they actually attack enemy entities?
Is it going to be included with source so they can be modified and tweaked?
The bots would basically give the coders and testers more ways of making test cases for all the bugs and features without requiring more real people pushing buttons.
I'm not sure if we are to add changes we want to see on the technical part, or simply comment on the gameplay-notes?
For on the...
I can say it works just as bad for chat as well. E.g I couldn't write "?" or even periods since they weren't on the same place on my keyboard. Made me feel a lot dumber writing stuff in the chat since it looked like I couldn't type properly at all, so I'd like for that to be looked into at some point.
User of a Swedish keyboard.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
How to comment on the gameplay-notes ?
Bingo.
Correct.
It really isn't. The tags aren't, dare I say, intuitive. "Started", "Finished", yes. "Delivered", "Accepted" - there is nothing <b>clear</b> about that.
<!--quoteo(post=1797324:date=Sep 3 2010, 04:32 AM:name=Ezekiel)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Ezekiel @ Sep 3 2010, 04:32 AM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1797324"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec--><b>it has been discussed repeatedly.</b> <i>no wading, or even going into the forums needed to work out what they mean, a tiny bit of actual thinking.</i><!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Ah, now see, that's a different story. You've <b><i>contradicted</i></b> yourself.
The fact is you can't really comment that 'it is obvious and only requires a little bit of thinking' because you've already read all the discussion, and the official word on it. You've got a hindsight bias.
That's beside the point though. There's no real reason why they can't describe them on the progress page (or the first page of this thread which is linked to from the progress page) to quell constant repetition of the same query.
Not that it should bother them, really; if I were them I'd just ignore it (as they seem to be doing already).
Ah, now see, that's a different story. You've <b><i>contradicted</i></b> yourself.
The fact is you can't really comment that 'it is obvious and only requires a little bit of thinking' because you've already read all the discussion, and the official word on it. You've got a hindsight bias.
That's beside the point though. There's no real reason why they can't describe them on the progress page (or the first page of this thread which is linked to from the progress page) to quell constant repetition of the same query.
Not that it should bother them, really; if I were them I'd just ignore it (as they seem to be doing already).<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Where do I contradict myself? You'll have trouble...
And no actually, I had "worked out" what they meant before all this asking on the forums and subsequent explaning by staff and others. Because I'm not a complete moron, and because it's obvious in the context of the tracker.
Also, could you be less transparent with your ###### awful trolling?
Harimau - you gotta ask yourself, where does it end and common sense should take over.
or maybe he is trolling with nothing else to do.
Most of the other tasks are in some way related to this issue.
<3
Harimau - you gotta ask yourself, where does it end and common sense should take over.
or maybe he is trolling with nothing else to do.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
I like that someone who has a terrible inability to type properly is calling me a moron.
Edit: Wow. I didn't even read your post entirely. I shouldn't have even bothered to say anything. Your post stands well enough on its own.
Also, Ezekiel, I used bold and italics for a reason. I even held your hand when it came to getting you to think but you still wouldn't cross that road.
this forum ain't big enough for 2 advice dogs
xD
But your's isn't actually giving advice. :(
the original didn't. which is me. SEE WHERE I'M GOING WITH THIS?
bawwwwwwwww
edit: YOU WIN THIS ROUND COMMISSAR.
As long as the next patch comes out eventually, I'm fine with it.
EDIT:
OK, it's working fine again. Great!