Ati => pure gaming Nvidia => gaming + cuda stuff (some adobe products, video stuff etc.)
If you plan to buy/play tesslation heavy games(DX11) or physX games(with max setting @physX), nvidia is slighlty better too. (but still, isnt worth it if you dont use programms which benefit from the cuda stuff)
@Koruyo Yes, that's the general advice - but regarding NS2, I don't think there is a "winner".
Altough I have an ATI card (5850) and I'm extremely happy with it since over a year, at the moment I would recommend buying a NV card. They just offer more IMHO and the price difference isn't really big. They also offer better anisotropic filtering and forced SSAA in DX9, 10 and 11 (ATI only DX9). You get CUDA (if you need it) and PhysX (not a game changer, but it's definitely not bad if you have it). If you want good bang for the bucks, wait till january. The war between HD6950 and GTX560 will start then :)
Yeah I agree. I'm running some crossfire ATi 5870's. The crossfire is only 50% efficient though, compared to NV SLi at 97% efficiency. So if you ever want to upgrade to duel cards go NV. (Would take GTX470s over these 5870s)
<!--quoteo(post=1817768:date=Dec 21 2010, 01:47 PM:name=_Thresh_)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (_Thresh_ @ Dec 21 2010, 01:47 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1817768"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->The crossfire is only 50% efficient though, compared to NV SLi at 97% efficiency.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd--> plz link to where you got this info
if you read amd 6000-series reviews, they get praise for x-fire performance being on par with sli in Tom's review it surpasses 570 sli: <a href="http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/radeon-hd-6970-radeon-hd-6950-cayman,2818.html" target="_blank">http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/radeon...ayman,2818.html</a>
here's a price per performance article done by sweclockers: <a href="http://www.sweclockers.com/artikel/13239-prestanda-per-krona-radeon-hd-6900-och-geforce-gtx-500" target="_blank">http://www.sweclockers.com/artikel/13239-p...geforce-gtx-500</a> the first table is a normalized (relative) performance index (higher is better) the second table is with value added into the picture (higher means more bang for the buck)
it's interesting how nV-fanboys talk ###### without anything to back it up (i happen to have only bought nV myself (so far), so no fanboyism here)
if you understand swedish, they at sweclockers comment on the forumdiscussions in this video adding that microstutter is just as bad for both! <a href="http://www.sweclockers.com/artikel/13235-fredagspanelen-gar-igenom-vinterns-hetaste-grafikkort" target="_blank">http://www.sweclockers.com/artikel/13235-f...aste-grafikkort</a>
there's a duopoly in both the CPU and GPU market, and the general opinion of the masses seems to be that AMD is a second-class choice AMD is already losing bigtime to Intel (80% market share, and ~1y ahead in manufacturing technology). so if this continues, everybody will be suffer from a monopoly
so stop spreading unverified or outdated claims/misconceptions
<!--quoteo(post=1817812:date=Dec 21 2010, 10:32 AM:name=weezl)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (weezl @ Dec 21 2010, 10:32 AM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1817812"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->but you still don't present any sources...
if you understand swedish, they at sweclockers comment on the forumdiscussions in this video adding that microstutter is just as bad for both! <a href="http://www.sweclockers.com/artikel/13235-fredagspanelen-gar-igenom-vinterns-hetaste-grafikkort" target="_blank">http://www.sweclockers.com/artikel/13235-f...aste-grafikkort</a><!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd--> I speak from what I've heard around my home forum of HardForum.com You can browse around there if you like.
<!--quoteo(post=1817816:date=Dec 21 2010, 05:52 PM:name=WhiteZero)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (WhiteZero @ Dec 21 2010, 05:52 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1817816"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->I speak from what I've heard around my home forum of HardForum.com You can browse around there if you like.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd--> what kind of proof is that? i've HEARD it on a forum, not read it, here, check through this whole forum cos i can't link to anything substantial. and have you heard this from the really experienced and knowing users?
<!--quoteo(post=1817818:date=Dec 21 2010, 06:10 PM:name=Eggcake)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Eggcake @ Dec 21 2010, 06:10 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1817818"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->You should only get SLI or Crossfire if the best Single GPU card isn't good enough. 2x 6850 or 2x 460 is a very bad decision IMHO.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd--> totally agree!
<!--quoteo(post=1817824:date=Dec 21 2010, 11:38 AM:name=weezl)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (weezl @ Dec 21 2010, 11:38 AM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1817824"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->what kind of proof is that? i've HEARD it on a forum, not read it, here, check through this whole forum cos i can't link to anything substantial. and have you heard this from the really experienced and knowing users?<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Considering I don't run a SLI/XFire setup myself, what other "proof" should I go off of other than what I hear from other users? And no, I'm not going to go searching around the forum for anecdotal evidence. I'm not trying to change anyone else's mind here, just providing what I've generally heard around the grapevine.
<!--quoteo(post=1817818:date=Dec 21 2010, 11:10 AM:name=Eggcake)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Eggcake @ Dec 21 2010, 11:10 AM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1817818"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->You should only get SLI or Crossfire if the best Single GPU card isn't good enough. 2x 6850 or 2x 460 is a very bad decision IMHO.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd--> 2x 460's (or 2x 6850/70) is one of the best price:performance setups you can have right now. I'd highly recommend it. Especially if you are running at least 1920x1200 and like to use some AA.
<!--quoteo(post=1817828:date=Dec 21 2010, 11:49 AM:name=Revi.uk)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Revi.uk @ Dec 21 2010, 11:49 AM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1817828"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->Nvidia have always and by the looks of things will always produce the better cards and more importantly more stable and faster drivers.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd--> ATi/AMD's drivers are one of the reasons I'm jumping ship back to nVidia for now.
<!--quoteo(post=1817845:date=Dec 21 2010, 07:36 PM:name=xposed-)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (xposed- @ Dec 21 2010, 07:36 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1817845"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->It's way too early for anyone to draw an accurate conclusion. I get 40 fps max on my SLI'd GTX 480's.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Bull######. What CPU do u have? an Atom? oO i get<u> up to </u>60 on my gtx 275 (fullhd) average in the 30fps area
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Ati => pure gaming
Nvidia => gaming + cuda stuff (some adobe products, video stuff etc.)
If you plan to buy/play tesslation heavy games(DX11) or physX games(with max setting @physX), nvidia is slighlty better too. (but still, isnt worth it if you dont use programms which benefit from the cuda stuff)
Yes, that's the general advice - but regarding NS2, I don't think there is a "winner".
Altough I have an ATI card (5850) and I'm extremely happy with it since over a year, at the moment I would recommend buying a NV card. They just offer more IMHO and the price difference isn't really big. They also offer better anisotropic filtering and forced SSAA in DX9, 10 and 11 (ATI only DX9). You get CUDA (if you need it) and PhysX (not a game changer, but it's definitely not bad if you have it).
If you want good bang for the bucks, wait till january. The war between HD6950 and GTX560 will start then :)
// Plus there is a NS2 bug with crossfire :/
plz link to where you got this info
if you read amd 6000-series reviews, they get praise for x-fire performance being on par with sli
in Tom's review it surpasses 570 sli:
<a href="http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/radeon-hd-6970-radeon-hd-6950-cayman,2818.html" target="_blank">http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/radeon...ayman,2818.html</a>
here's a price per performance article done by sweclockers:
<a href="http://www.sweclockers.com/artikel/13239-prestanda-per-krona-radeon-hd-6900-och-geforce-gtx-500" target="_blank">http://www.sweclockers.com/artikel/13239-p...geforce-gtx-500</a>
the first table is a normalized (relative) performance index (higher is better)
the second table is with value added into the picture (higher means more bang for the buck)
it's interesting how nV-fanboys talk ###### without anything to back it up
(i happen to have only bought nV myself (so far), so no fanboyism here)
Yes sli got less microstutter and better efficiency (at least until the 6xxx ati and 5xx nvidia series came out - dont know if this changed yet)
Still i would always recommend 1 card over an sli Xfire setup if it can fit your needs. (no triple Fullhd monitor or 3d setups)
1card > 2cards > 1 DualGPUcard for gaming only.#
Dunno, but i feel this thread belongs into offtopic.
NV SLI, as far as I know, is a much smoother experience.
if you understand swedish, they at sweclockers comment on the forumdiscussions in this video adding that microstutter is just as bad for both!
<a href="http://www.sweclockers.com/artikel/13235-fredagspanelen-gar-igenom-vinterns-hetaste-grafikkort" target="_blank">http://www.sweclockers.com/artikel/13235-f...aste-grafikkort</a>
there's a duopoly in both the CPU and GPU market, and the general opinion of the masses seems to be that AMD is a second-class choice
AMD is already losing bigtime to Intel (80% market share, and ~1y ahead in manufacturing technology).
so if this continues, everybody will be suffer from a monopoly
so stop spreading unverified or outdated claims/misconceptions
if you understand swedish, they at sweclockers comment on the forumdiscussions in this video adding that microstutter is just as bad for both!
<a href="http://www.sweclockers.com/artikel/13235-fredagspanelen-gar-igenom-vinterns-hetaste-grafikkort" target="_blank">http://www.sweclockers.com/artikel/13235-f...aste-grafikkort</a><!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
I speak from what I've heard around my home forum of HardForum.com
You can browse around there if you like.
the only one who does not have microsturering is LucidLogix Hydra
You can browse around there if you like.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
what kind of proof is that? i've HEARD it on a forum, not read it, here, check through this whole forum cos i can't link to anything substantial.
and have you heard this from the really experienced and knowing users?
<!--quoteo(post=1817818:date=Dec 21 2010, 06:10 PM:name=Eggcake)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Eggcake @ Dec 21 2010, 06:10 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1817818"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->You should only get SLI or Crossfire if the best Single GPU card isn't good enough. 2x 6850 or 2x 460 is a very bad decision IMHO.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
totally agree!
and have you heard this from the really experienced and knowing users?<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Considering I don't run a SLI/XFire setup myself, what other "proof" should I go off of other than what I hear from other users? And no, I'm not going to go searching around the forum for anecdotal evidence. I'm not trying to change anyone else's mind here, just providing what I've generally heard around the grapevine.
<!--quoteo(post=1817818:date=Dec 21 2010, 11:10 AM:name=Eggcake)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Eggcake @ Dec 21 2010, 11:10 AM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1817818"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->You should only get SLI or Crossfire if the best Single GPU card isn't good enough. 2x 6850 or 2x 460 is a very bad decision IMHO.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
2x 460's (or 2x 6850/70) is one of the best price:performance setups you can have right now. I'd highly recommend it. Especially if you are running at least 1920x1200 and like to use some AA.
ATi/AMD's drivers are one of the reasons I'm jumping ship back to nVidia for now.
Bull######. What CPU do u have? an Atom? oO i get<u> up to </u>60 on my gtx 275 (fullhd) average in the 30fps area
Why would you call me an NV fanboy when I have two top tier ATI cards?
Thats just silly.