ati or nvidia?

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  • KoruyoKoruyo AUT Join Date: 2009-06-06 Member: 67724Members, Reinforced - Shadow
    edited December 2010
    My opinion:

    Ati => pure gaming
    Nvidia => gaming + cuda stuff (some adobe products, video stuff etc.)

    If you plan to buy/play tesslation heavy games(DX11) or physX games(with max setting @physX), nvidia is slighlty better too. (but still, isnt worth it if you dont use programms which benefit from the cuda stuff)
  • EggcakeEggcake Join Date: 2010-12-19 Member: 75773Members
    edited December 2010
    @Koruyo
    Yes, that's the general advice - but regarding NS2, I don't think there is a "winner".

    Altough I have an ATI card (5850) and I'm extremely happy with it since over a year, at the moment I would recommend buying a NV card. They just offer more IMHO and the price difference isn't really big. They also offer better anisotropic filtering and forced SSAA in DX9, 10 and 11 (ATI only DX9). You get CUDA (if you need it) and PhysX (not a game changer, but it's definitely not bad if you have it).
    If you want good bang for the bucks, wait till january. The war between HD6950 and GTX560 will start then :)
  • _Thresh__Thresh_ Join Date: 2008-01-11 Member: 63385Members
    edited December 2010
    Yeah I agree. I'm running some crossfire ATi 5870's. The crossfire is only 50% efficient though, compared to NV SLi at 97% efficiency. So if you ever want to upgrade to duel cards go NV. (Would take GTX470s over these 5870s)

    // Plus there is a NS2 bug with crossfire :/
  • weezlweezl Join Date: 2008-07-04 Member: 64557Members, Reinforced - Shadow
    <!--quoteo(post=1817768:date=Dec 21 2010, 01:47 PM:name=_Thresh_)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (_Thresh_ @ Dec 21 2010, 01:47 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1817768"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->The crossfire is only 50% efficient though, compared to NV SLi at 97% efficiency.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    plz link to where you got this info

    if you read amd 6000-series reviews, they get praise for x-fire performance being on par with sli
    in Tom's review it surpasses 570 sli:
    <a href="http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/radeon-hd-6970-radeon-hd-6950-cayman,2818.html" target="_blank">http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/radeon...ayman,2818.html</a>

    here's a price per performance article done by sweclockers:
    <a href="http://www.sweclockers.com/artikel/13239-prestanda-per-krona-radeon-hd-6900-och-geforce-gtx-500" target="_blank">http://www.sweclockers.com/artikel/13239-p...geforce-gtx-500</a>
    the first table is a normalized (relative) performance index (higher is better)
    the second table is with value added into the picture (higher means more bang for the buck)

    it's interesting how nV-fanboys talk ###### without anything to back it up
    (i happen to have only bought nV myself (so far), so no fanboyism here)
  • KoruyoKoruyo AUT Join Date: 2009-06-06 Member: 67724Members, Reinforced - Shadow
    edited December 2010
    Well, Xfire and Sli... some love it, some hate it. You need to test it yourself and dont listen to forum chitchat.

    Yes sli got less microstutter and better efficiency (at least until the 6xxx ati and 5xx nvidia series came out - dont know if this changed yet)

    Still i would always recommend 1 card over an sli Xfire setup if it can fit your needs. (no triple Fullhd monitor or 3d setups)

    1card > 2cards > 1 DualGPUcard for gaming only.#

    Dunno, but i feel this thread belongs into offtopic.
  • WhiteZeroWhiteZero That Guy Join Date: 2004-06-24 Member: 29511Members, Constellation
    AMD XFire = microstutter problems and all kinds of other issues.
    NV SLI, as far as I know, is a much smoother experience.
  • weezlweezl Join Date: 2008-07-04 Member: 64557Members, Reinforced - Shadow
    but you still don't present any sources...

    if you understand swedish, they at sweclockers comment on the forumdiscussions in this video adding that microstutter is just as bad for both!
    <a href="http://www.sweclockers.com/artikel/13235-fredagspanelen-gar-igenom-vinterns-hetaste-grafikkort" target="_blank">http://www.sweclockers.com/artikel/13235-f...aste-grafikkort</a>


    there's a duopoly in both the CPU and GPU market, and the general opinion of the masses seems to be that AMD is a second-class choice
    AMD is already losing bigtime to Intel (80% market share, and ~1y ahead in manufacturing technology).
    so if this continues, everybody will be suffer from a monopoly

    so stop spreading unverified or outdated claims/misconceptions
  • WhiteZeroWhiteZero That Guy Join Date: 2004-06-24 Member: 29511Members, Constellation
    edited December 2010
    <!--quoteo(post=1817812:date=Dec 21 2010, 10:32 AM:name=weezl)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (weezl @ Dec 21 2010, 10:32 AM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1817812"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->but you still don't present any sources...

    if you understand swedish, they at sweclockers comment on the forumdiscussions in this video adding that microstutter is just as bad for both!
    <a href="http://www.sweclockers.com/artikel/13235-fredagspanelen-gar-igenom-vinterns-hetaste-grafikkort" target="_blank">http://www.sweclockers.com/artikel/13235-f...aste-grafikkort</a><!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    I speak from what I've heard around my home forum of HardForum.com
    You can browse around there if you like.
  • tyrael64tyrael64 Join Date: 2010-02-13 Member: 70551Members
    edited December 2010
    sli or crossfire both have microsturering

    the only one who does not have microsturering is LucidLogix Hydra
  • EggcakeEggcake Join Date: 2010-12-19 Member: 75773Members
    You should only get SLI or Crossfire if the best Single GPU card isn't good enough. 2x 6850 or 2x 460 is a very bad decision IMHO.
  • weezlweezl Join Date: 2008-07-04 Member: 64557Members, Reinforced - Shadow
    <!--quoteo(post=1817816:date=Dec 21 2010, 05:52 PM:name=WhiteZero)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (WhiteZero @ Dec 21 2010, 05:52 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1817816"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->I speak from what I've heard around my home forum of HardForum.com
    You can browse around there if you like.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    what kind of proof is that? i've HEARD it on a forum, not read it, here, check through this whole forum cos i can't link to anything substantial.
    and have you heard this from the really experienced and knowing users?


    <!--quoteo(post=1817818:date=Dec 21 2010, 06:10 PM:name=Eggcake)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Eggcake @ Dec 21 2010, 06:10 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1817818"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->You should only get SLI or Crossfire if the best Single GPU card isn't good enough. 2x 6850 or 2x 460 is a very bad decision IMHO.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    totally agree!
  • WhiteZeroWhiteZero That Guy Join Date: 2004-06-24 Member: 29511Members, Constellation
    edited December 2010
    <!--quoteo(post=1817824:date=Dec 21 2010, 11:38 AM:name=weezl)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (weezl @ Dec 21 2010, 11:38 AM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1817824"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->what kind of proof is that? i've HEARD it on a forum, not read it, here, check through this whole forum cos i can't link to anything substantial.
    and have you heard this from the really experienced and knowing users?<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    Considering I don't run a SLI/XFire setup myself, what other "proof" should I go off of other than what I hear from other users? And no, I'm not going to go searching around the forum for anecdotal evidence. I'm not trying to change anyone else's mind here, just providing what I've generally heard around the grapevine.

    <!--quoteo(post=1817818:date=Dec 21 2010, 11:10 AM:name=Eggcake)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Eggcake @ Dec 21 2010, 11:10 AM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1817818"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->You should only get SLI or Crossfire if the best Single GPU card isn't good enough. 2x 6850 or 2x 460 is a very bad decision IMHO.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    2x 460's (or 2x 6850/70) is one of the best price:performance setups you can have right now. I'd highly recommend it. Especially if you are running at least 1920x1200 and like to use some AA.
  • Revi.ukRevi.uk Join Date: 2010-04-12 Member: 71354Members
    Nvidia have always and by the looks of things will always produce the better cards and more importantly more stable and faster drivers.
  • WhiteZeroWhiteZero That Guy Join Date: 2004-06-24 Member: 29511Members, Constellation
    <!--quoteo(post=1817828:date=Dec 21 2010, 11:49 AM:name=Revi.uk)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Revi.uk @ Dec 21 2010, 11:49 AM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1817828"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->Nvidia have always and by the looks of things will always produce the better cards and more importantly more stable and faster drivers.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    ATi/AMD's drivers are one of the reasons I'm jumping ship back to nVidia for now.
  • xposed-xposed- Join Date: 2007-09-23 Member: 62412Members, Constellation
    It's way too early for anyone to draw an accurate conclusion. I get 40 fps max on my SLI'd GTX 480's.
  • KoruyoKoruyo AUT Join Date: 2009-06-06 Member: 67724Members, Reinforced - Shadow
    edited December 2010
    <!--quoteo(post=1817845:date=Dec 21 2010, 07:36 PM:name=xposed-)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (xposed- @ Dec 21 2010, 07:36 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1817845"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->It's way too early for anyone to draw an accurate conclusion. I get 40 fps max on my SLI'd GTX 480's.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    Bull######. What CPU do u have? an Atom? oO i get<u> up to </u>60 on my gtx 275 (fullhd) average in the 30fps area
  • _Thresh__Thresh_ Join Date: 2008-01-11 Member: 63385Members
    Damn xposed... got cooling? That on a kilowat PSU?

    Why would you call me an NV fanboy when I have two top tier ATI cards?

    Thats just silly.
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