Bring back old menu music

.ADHd.ADHd Join Date: 2012-02-18 Member: 146565Members
edited May 2012 in NS2 General Discussion
<i>EDIT</i>
There was a big misunderstanding in my post. NS2 used to have different menu music pre-build 200. I do NOT want the original NS1 music in NS2.

The original menu music for NS2 was absolutely perfect and brilliant sounding. I just want to know if anyone knows a place I can get an MP3 or raw version of the original NS2 menu music. :)
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  • weezlweezl Join Date: 2008-07-04 Member: 64557Members, Reinforced - Shadow
    The new music is okay, but I remember I liked the old one more, have both (somewhere, maybe as an option)!
  • KurrineKurrine Join Date: 2010-07-03 Member: 72235Members
    <!--coloro:#aadd00--><span style="color:#aadd00"><!--/coloro-->I'm all for it's return as well, the new one just doesn't fit in my opinion. Why use this track when it's obvious you like the old one more UWE? You even use it in many of your videos. It's unique enough it could become the running theme song to the franchise in general.<!--colorc--></span><!--/colorc-->
  • RyneRyne Join Date: 2012-02-25 Member: 147408Members, NS2 Map Tester
    edited May 2012
    <!--coloro:red--><span style="color:red"><!--/coloro--><b>*IMAGE BALEETED.*</b> The NS forums are not a meme/imageboard. Let's keep it that way. Content preserved below. -Talesin<!--colorc--></span><!--/colorc-->

    Why don't we have both?
  • KurrineKurrine Join Date: 2010-07-03 Member: 72235Members
    <!--coloro:#aadd00--><span style="color:#aadd00"><!--/coloro-->Never! It shall taint the cleanliness of our previous theme, we must banish the new theme from this world!

    But in all seriousness, having both as an option works I guess, but which one shall be the default? The current still?<!--colorc--></span><!--/colorc-->
  • RyneRyne Join Date: 2012-02-25 Member: 147408Members, NS2 Map Tester
    <!--quoteo(post=1938763:date=May 24 2012, 05:00 PM:name=Kurrine)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Kurrine @ May 24 2012, 05:00 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1938763"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec--><!--coloro:#aadd00--><span style="color:#aadd00"><!--/coloro-->Never! It shall taint the cleanliness of our previous theme, we must banish the new theme from this world!

    But in all seriousness, having both as an option works I guess, but which one shall be the default? The current still?<!--colorc--></span><!--/colorc--><!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    I was thinking just have it randomly select one when you start game. Maybe have a small icon in the corner to switch between them?
  • Master BlasterMaster Blaster Join Date: 2012-03-17 Member: 148908Banned
    <!--quoteo(post=1938736:date=May 24 2012, 03:21 PM:name=.ADHd)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (.ADHd @ May 24 2012, 03:21 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1938736"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->I was sitting in teamspeak today and talking to the team about the menu music. I have been thinking about it for a while and have to say that the old menu music was a thousand times better. Pretty much everyone agreed.

    The new menu music is really generic and sounds like it belongs in some war movie. The old menu music was sick and so ominous and spacey sounding. It fit perfectly for a space / alien game. Please bring back the old menu music UWE. It really was a lot more original. It was a lot more catchy and a lot less annoying. It set the mood so well before joining a server.

    The old NS1 music was epic too and a lot more fitting for a space game. The current music sounds like the Americas Army menu music hahahaha. Honestly though the first one gave me chills when I heard it.

    I hope other people remember the old menu music. Let's get it back in the game!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    Is there any way I can get an MP3 of the original music or somehow change the menu music back to the original? I'd really like to know :) :).<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    YES!!!

    I brought this up in my first post on this forum.

    THE NS1 menu music was 10000 times better than this. Sorry, but it's just not even close. And if you think otherwise, your taste sucks big time and you should feel bad.

    Please bring back the NS1 music and sound direction.
  • havok?havok? Join Date: 2012-05-22 Member: 152462Members, NS2 Map Tester
    <!--quoteo(post=1938765:date=May 24 2012, 08:02 PM:name=Ryne)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Ryne @ May 24 2012, 08:02 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1938765"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->I was thinking just have it randomly select one when you start game. Maybe have a small icon in the corner to switch between them?<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    +1
  • RockyMarcRockyMarc Join Date: 2009-11-24 Member: 69519Members, Reinforced - Shadow
    The music options seem to also not stick when applied after exiting.
    I've put my Voice option pretty much down heaps, and it's okay, but when I leave the game, and then open it up again another time, the slider is still set down to where I last set it, but the voices are really loud again, so I have to move it up and then back down and hit apply.
    I think it also happens to the music option.
  • .ADHd.ADHd Join Date: 2012-02-18 Member: 146565Members
    <!--quoteo(post=1938765:date=May 24 2012, 07:02 PM:name=Ryne)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Ryne @ May 24 2012, 07:02 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1938765"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->I was thinking just have it randomly select one when you start game. Maybe have a small icon in the corner to switch between them?<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    <3<3<3

    Please devs.... pleaseeeeeeee :D
  • Master BlasterMaster Blaster Join Date: 2012-03-17 Member: 148908Banned
    edited May 2012
    <!--quoteo(post=1938787:date=May 24 2012, 08:40 PM:name=.ADHd)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (.ADHd @ May 24 2012, 08:40 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1938787"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec--><3<3<3

    Please devs.... pleaseeeeeeee :D<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    I really want to see the old music and sound/art direction. It WAS more spacey/space atmosphere type of music. And it was very pleasant and relaxing. It made the game feel adult and mature, basically the opposite of TF2's music (I like TF2 though, but yea the NS1 music and atmosphere needs to return in NS2).
  • stinghawkstinghawk Join Date: 2005-07-30 Member: 57159Members
    the old menu music to me sounded like it belonged to a zombie shooter. please do not bring it back.
  • SaschaSascha Join Date: 2010-07-16 Member: 72444Members
    I like the old menu theme more too but in my mind it is more important to put back the ingame music which I currently really miss everytime when I remember the good old Natural Selection 1 maybe this time for every race a different ingame soundtrack for example something military for the marines. Currently it is just to silent <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w-VNauZhwkQ&feature=related" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w-VNauZhwkQ...feature=related</a>
  • Master BlasterMaster Blaster Join Date: 2012-03-17 Member: 148908Banned
    <!--quoteo(post=1938894:date=May 25 2012, 10:08 AM:name=Sascha)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Sascha @ May 25 2012, 10:08 AM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1938894"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->I like the old menu theme more too but in my mind it is more important to put back the ingame music which I currently really miss everytime when I remember the good old Natural Selection 1 maybe this time for every race a different ingame soundtrack for example something military for the marines. Currently it is just to silent <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w-VNauZhwkQ&feature=related" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w-VNauZhwkQ...feature=related</a><!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    Ok because of that video I am convinced that even the sounds in NS1 (building and dropping structures, and entering and exiting command station) were much better and more Space-oriented.

    Please UWE, that atmosphere created by the music is why NS1 was so pleasant to play.

    THe sounds in NS2 are harsh and annoying. The sounds in NS1 were not. This is more important than you might think.
  • .ADHd.ADHd Join Date: 2012-02-18 Member: 146565Members
    edited May 2012
    Yeah ns1 music was insanely atmospheric and one of the big reasons I got so immersed into the game. The sounds were great as well and reminded me of a nice sci-fi space movie... which is probably why I love this game so much.

    I like to pretend I am actually in the game and the immersion of the music def helps set the mood when I load the game. The new menu music I tend to see myself wanting to turn off. It's not dynamic at all the song writing of the composer seemed pretty sugarcoated (Getting paid to make commercial music).

    The original seemed more from the heart and seemed like a genuine and legit composition that a lot of hard work went into. I was really dissapointed when it was removed... I would load the game just to hear the menu music haha.

    Oh and UWE best be putting more space station type maps in the game. I don't like being stuck on a planet for all the maps.
  • NurEinMenschNurEinMensch Join Date: 2003-02-26 Member: 14056Members, Constellation
    I detect a case of nostalgia.
  • YuukiYuuki Join Date: 2010-11-20 Member: 75079Members
    I kind of agree, the current music is well done but it has this orchestral hollywoodian quality which is the mark of what not to do with music currently. Personally I would prefer something more industrial, organic and futurist.

    <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DcqifERzmkw" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DcqifERzmkw</a>
  • Bloodshot12Bloodshot12 Join Date: 2012-05-25 Member: 152578Members
    Totally agree, the old music reminded me of the ambient NS1 music while still being different, and kind of eerie. This one just feels out of place.
  • TalesinTalesin Our own little well of hate Join Date: 2002-11-08 Member: 7710NS1 Playtester, Forum Moderators
    I'd tend to agree... the new music is closer to 'canned game muzak', and lacks a lot of the defining character that set the NS1 score apart. It seems like the new music is trying hard to be non-offensive and appealing to a wide user-base. Blatantly. In doing so, it turns what used to be highly atmospheric pre-game warmup moments into just another set of menus to navigate.

    Really, go ahead and load up NS2. I had to, as I couldn't remember ANY of the title screen music. Not a single phrase or melody. (Bad sign.)
    Close your eyes.
    Tell yourself that you've loaded up a new Battlefield expansion pack. Or CoD. Or Gears of War. Or any other Generic Brown Shooter 17.

    Surprisingly easy to believe that you won't see the NS2 title screen when you open your eyes, isn't it?
    There's no spaciness to it. Just the standard, generic, boring-ass heavy drumline backed by 'pulse pounder loop 5' instrumental.
    I'm really hoping it's just a placeholder, and the actual theme will be slotted in over the course of the summer when it's done.
  • extolloextollo Ping Blip Join Date: 2010-07-16 Member: 72457Members
    new music is more rhythmic & melody driven. old one is more ambient & harmony driven & i do think it is a more interesting listen. but really? In terms of priorities, its not that big of a deal. The new one is a solid piece of music for this game.
  • .ADHd.ADHd Join Date: 2012-02-18 Member: 146565Members
    Well... does anyone know where to find the MP3 for the old menu music? I just want to listen to it for nostalgia.
  • TalesinTalesin Our own little well of hate Join Date: 2002-11-08 Member: 7710NS1 Playtester, Forum Moderators
    edited May 2012
    <!--quoteo(post=1938952:date=May 25 2012, 04:52 PM:name=jbaker8935)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (jbaker8935 @ May 25 2012, 04:52 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1938952"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->new music is more rhythmic & melody driven. old one is more ambient & harmony driven & i do think it is a more interesting listen. but really? In terms of priorities, its not that big of a deal. The new one is a solid piece of music for this game.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Not... really. I dare you to hum the melody right now, without listening to it. Because there really isn't one. Just drums and some nondescript instrumentals that are almost instantly forgotten.

    And while it may not be a high priority, it's also one of the first impressions that new players will be presented with, and should stick with them. The original NS theme did that, and I can still hum the main melody after not having played for almost two years at this point.

    I'd even say that the original NS2 title music was better... no strong melody there either, very ambient, but had more a sense of mystery and foreboding about it than the current (post-b200) 'Action Shootan Man!' piece in place.

    (edit)
    And .ADHd, it's up on youtube if nothing else. Quick search... <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4PIb4WpUCEs" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4PIb4WpUCEs</a>
  • WombatLOLWombatLOL Join Date: 2011-11-30 Member: 136042Members, Reinforced - Shadow
    <!--quoteo(post=1938941:date=May 25 2012, 03:26 PM:name=.ADHd)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (.ADHd @ May 25 2012, 03:26 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1938941"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->Yeah ns1 music was insanely atmospheric and one of the big reasons I got so immersed into the game. The sounds were great as well and reminded me of a nice sci-fi space movie... which is probably why I love this game so much.

    I like to pretend I am actually in the game and the immersion of the music def helps set the mood when I load the game. The new menu music I tend to see myself wanting to turn off. It's not dynamic at all the song writing of the composer seemed pretty sugarcoated (Getting paid to make commercial music).

    The original seemed more from the heart and seemed like a genuine and legit composition that a lot of hard work went into. I was really dissapointed when it was removed... I would load the game just to hear the menu music haha.

    Oh and UWE best be putting more space station type maps in the game. I don't like being stuck on a planet for all the maps.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    I made a post about this in the ideas/suggestions forum a while ago.. But no one cared to respond :(
  • Bloodshot12Bloodshot12 Join Date: 2012-05-25 Member: 152578Members
    edited May 2012
    I really think they should go back to the other one. NS1 and this game are both very atmospheric, and in NS1 everything seemed to convey a similar atmosphere. But this song feels like it's trying way too hard to be epic, and as a result it's horrendously out of place.

    It's kinda the same thing with Diablo 3. Diablo 1 music was amazingly atmospheric and scary, so was Diablo 2 (to a lesser extent, but still had the same feel to it) - and then Diablo 3's music almost sounds like it's out of final fantasy, or the action segments from the Aliens soundtrack.
  • Not FlayraNot Flayra Join Date: 2012-05-18 Member: 152282Members
    From what I heard, w- they're planning to go the other way, and might be in talks to license 'Spybreak' by the Propellerheads (aka: That One Song From The Matrix Lobby Scene).

    ...BWOW-bow-tikka-da-TIK-a-BOWM!
  • Master BlasterMaster Blaster Join Date: 2012-03-17 Member: 148908Banned
    edited May 2012
    <!--quoteo(post=1938979:date=May 25 2012, 06:58 PM:name=Not Flayra)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Not Flayra @ May 25 2012, 06:58 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1938979"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->From what I heard, w- they're planning to go the other way, and might be in talks to license 'Spybreak' by the Propellerheads (aka: That One Song From The Matrix Lobby Scene).

    ...BWOW-bow-tikka-da-TIK-a-BOWM!<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    That is stupid and a bad direction and no one (ok, maybe not no one, but I WILL NOT like it) is gonna like that except the ADD crowd. This sounds too much like TF2's music style.

    This game already feels too much like it belongs in a videogame arcade with its gimmicky menu music and 8 minute and 12 minute onos and average of 20 minute games.

    It will look childish and I for one will be hoping for someone to come in and change the sound scheme entirely if they do this.

    A plea to UWE: NS1 was not a full game in the sense that it was a Half-life modification. Thus, I don't see why EVERYTHING has to be different from NS1. Its not like Call of DUty where the last game was the same as its predecessor. Don't take all of that awesome stuff out. Some of us actually want NS1's atmosphere and sound design at the very least.

    Look at what made NS1 the greatest half life mod ever made, and stop throwing away all of those elements. If you change the gameplay fine, but the music was ******* great and the sounds of the game were 10/10 material. I really do not see why you would get rid of that for the current sounds unless you were forced to.

    ---

    NS1 was influenced a bit by the Alien films, and other science fiction. The music and sounds in NS1 were absolutely the best they could have possibly been. I turn on Skyrim and other Elder Scrolls games sometimes JUST FOR THE MUSIC. It's the same way with NS1. Music is more important to a game than most people realize, and its a shame that it is not considered more carefully.

    AMBIENCE is very important. It's the relaxing, ambient music of NS1 that plays so well with the science fiction/space atmosphere. I would place NS1's sound and music right up there with any top game. It fit perfectly and I hope SO MUCH that they bring it back.

    By the way the Transcend clan logo/picture in your signature looks really good and fits the space theme well also. The music and that sort of work go very well.
  • RiseRise Join Date: 2012-04-17 Member: 150595Members
    As someone who is largely music driven in games, with music making or breaking the experience sometimes, I have to say I think you're all completely wrong.

    I looked up the old NS2 music on youtube and the current one is actually a lot closer in style to the original NS1 music.

    The current NS2 menu music is beautifully brilliant, much better than the NS1 music, so much so that I find I don't want to leave the menu to go in game sometimes.

    I find the sounds in NS2 to be everybit as immersive and atmospheric as the original, if not moreso.

    And I don't miss the ingame music at all. I always turned it off so I could hear skulks sneaking up on me better anyway.
  • Master BlasterMaster Blaster Join Date: 2012-03-17 Member: 148908Banned
    edited May 2012
    <!--quoteo(post=1938997:date=May 25 2012, 08:35 PM:name=Rise)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Rise @ May 25 2012, 08:35 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1938997"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->As someone who is largely music driven in games, with music making or breaking the experience sometimes, I have to say I think you're all completely wrong.

    I looked up the old NS2 music on youtube and the current one is actually a lot closer in style to the original NS1 music.

    The current NS2 menu music is beautifully brilliant, much better than the NS1 music, so much so that I find I don't want to leave the menu to go in game sometimes.

    I find the sounds in NS2 to be everybit as immersive and atmospheric as the original, if not moreso.

    And I don't miss the ingame music at all. I always turned it off so I could hear skulks sneaking up on me better anyway.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    As someone who has studied music for approximately 18 years, I have to say I think you're more than completely wrong.

    Music taste might be "subjective" but just because someone craps on a canvas doesn't mean they made "art" and it gets really annoying to see some people placing good music on the same level as immature garbage. I'm not saying the current menu music and sound design is immature garbage, but NS1's design direction is too good to throw away like that.

    NS1 was not a feature game that was sold on the market, it was a free Half-life modification. So you don't have to throw all of it a away and make a new game from scratch because no one is going to say "This is the same as before" or "no new innovations" like happens with Call of Duty. You could probably just start with NS1 and sell that and then later on make NS2 and have 2 products to sell. But my major point here is about the music so let's just stick with that.

    If you go with the original NS1 music -- I believe it is more adult, mature, and makes the game look professional and serious. In contrast, if you choose to go with the Propellerheads song like "Not Flayra" suggests, it will seem childish or more like an arcade game. I like the Proppelerheads song, but it's not something for a game like this at all.

    If you want the best game music in the world, Jeremy Soule does some incredible work. He has done Bethesda's Elder Scrolls series among other things, and people buy game soundtracks because of him.
  • Not FlayraNot Flayra Join Date: 2012-05-18 Member: 152282Members
    <!--quoteo(post=1938997:date=May 25 2012, 09:35 PM:name=Rise)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Rise @ May 25 2012, 09:35 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1938997"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->I looked up the old NS2 music on youtube and the current one is actually a lot closer in style to the original NS1 music.
    The current NS2 menu music is beautifully brilliant, much better than the NS1 music, so much so that I find I don't want to leave the menu to go in game sometimes.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Only in that the NS1 music started off with a short percussion piece. Otherwise, quite entirely different.
    For the post-b200 music, w- ...I hear that <i>they</i> visited a local high school and recorded the drum-line team practice to use it on a dare, and added an instrumental loop over it so it wouldn't be so obvious. Which won Flayra a case of Strongbow and twenty bucks. Glad you like it!


    <!--quoteo(post=1938998:date=May 25 2012, 09:44 PM:name=Master Blaster)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Master Blaster @ May 25 2012, 09:44 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1938998"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->As someone who has studied music for approximately 18 years, I have to say I think you're more than completely wrong.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    As someone who has studied the coincidental occurrence of facts to support arguments for over 35 years, I have to concur.


    <!--quoteo--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->In contrast, if you choose to go with the Propellerheads song like "Not Flayra" suggests, it will seem childish or more like an arcade game. I like the Proppelerheads song, but it's not something for a game like this at all.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    I didn't suggest anything. Just said what I'd heard they could be doing. But seriously, that thing costs <i>bank</i> to license after Keanu got it.

    I mean, I heard it does.


    <!--quoteo--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->If you want the best game music in the world, Jeremy Soule does some incredible work. He has done Bethesda's Elder Scrolls series among other things, and people buy game soundtracks because of him.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    True. Absolutely agreed. Well, except for Danny Elfman, and he's <b>way</b> above ou- ...<i>their</i> budget.
  • .ADHd.ADHd Join Date: 2012-02-18 Member: 146565Members
    edited May 2012
    You guys... I am talking about the original menu music in natural selection 2. Not 1.

    The original ns2 theme song was 10 times better than NS1's and 1000 times better than the current... In my opinion.


    HAHAHA oh my gosh this is hilarious. I bet most of the people in this thread never even heard the original NS2 theme song... aside from the fact that UWE uses it in most of its youtube videos.

    Also the old menu was BA. There was a marine standing there and every so often a skulk would drop down and run out of view. I loved that old menu now its just a boring view of ore processing.......
  • Not FlayraNot Flayra Join Date: 2012-05-18 Member: 152282Members
    edited May 2012
    <!--quoteo(post=1939020:date=May 26 2012, 01:21 AM:name=.ADHd)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (.ADHd @ May 26 2012, 01:21 AM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1939020"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->You guys... I am talking about the original menu music in natural selection 2. Not 1.

    The original ns2 theme song was 10 times better than NS1's and 1000 times better than the current... In my opinion.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    <!--coloro:red--><span style="color:red"><!--/coloro--><b>*IMAGE BALEETED.*</b> The NS forums are not a meme/imageboard. Let's keep it that way. Additionally, be nice. Even Zoidberg doesn't get you a pass. -Talesin<!--colorc--></span><!--/colorc-->
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