WELLLLLOH EVERYBOOBY!!!!
Tonight's map test is going to be a very special one. The Kodiak is the first SCC map (of many?!!?!) to go official so its an occasion for some not so serious celebration! It's going to be a Troop rage spectacular!! Everyone over the age of 18 is under strict orders to get alcohol for tonight.
We'll be starting at the usual time of 8PM GMT. Join mumble 10 to 20 minutes before to get the party started! The mumble details are:
The ns2_orbital_beta map has been updated so the draw calls are now very low all over the map now. And some subscribers would like to play this map. If any server owners could put this map in rotation on there server that would be great to get some long play time feed back.
Hi, to any of the players or map testers,
Ok, I have seen them test the ns2_orbital_beta map and watched them play it on twitch/tv. Have herd then saying it is marine sided when the marines win. Then alien sided when they win. They don't change side to see if the map is good or bad. Not just stacked or uneven player skills. So where is all the input on maps that are supposed to be tested before the mappers move on to keep or change the map in any way. I mean I have seen them play and the commander has no idea what to do, he seems to never have played NS2 or its a first time out. How do players like that really test a map when they don't even know what to look for. I would think that only a group of competitive, or just all well skilled players would be the best way to test the maps they might play on. Lets face it for anyone to start mapping for NS2, and put god knows how many hours of work it takes to make a map. Even maps base of orignal NS1 maps. Like Veil, Caged, Hera and Orbital, etc. With no real input on the maps, seems to be that maps in general would then just be a waste of time. So for mappers to move forward with there maps lets try to have some real specific thoughts on the maps so others can play them. Or what would be great , if server owners would run the maps for a while on pubs to see what reaction players in general have about the maps.
Hi, to any of the players or map testers,
Ok, I have seen them test the ns2_orbital_beta map and watched them play it on twitch/tv. Have herd then saying it is marine sided when the marines win. Then alien sided when they win. They don't change side to see if the map is good or bad. Not just stacked or uneven player skills. So where is all the input on maps that are supposed to be tested before the mappers move on to keep or change the map in any way. I mean I have seen them play and the commander has no idea what to do, he seems to never have played NS2 or its a first time out. How do players like that really test a map when they don't even know what to look for. I would think that only a group of competitive, or just all well skilled players would be the best way to test the maps they might play on. Lets face it for anyone to start mapping for NS2, and put god knows how many hours of work it takes to make a map. Even maps base of orignal NS1 maps. Like Veil, Caged, Hera and Orbital, etc. With no real input on the maps, seems to be that maps in general would then just be a waste of time. So for mappers to move forward with there maps lets try to have some real specific thoughts on the maps so others can play them. Or what would be great , if server owners would run the maps for a while on pubs to see what reaction players in general have about the maps.
Thanks, Max
Whether or not it's one-sided on a strategical level, the map is simply awkward to play on on a player-level. Every room and corridor is very tight, making it awkward to play on as Lerk or Fade, especially once shotguns are out. Some of the obstacles throughout the map don't help.
On a sidenote, I found it almost impossible to attack the south-western TP as an alien safely. There's only two entrances and no way to flank. A vent could help.
@prevertmaximus I think the lack feedback is due to the fact we're use to having the mapper present for the tests. We generally give feedback and opinions as we play the map or just after.
Getting a feel for the map is very important. You can only get that by playing it many times. SCC tests are that much more valuable if you attend regularly.
As for balance feedback you'll generally find the losing side on a unfamiliar crying 'unbalanced', so you have to take that with a pinch of salt.
We just have too many maps to play each one twice and our tests need be light-hearted and fun. I'm sorry you don't see much value in the tests but without attending the whole sessions and sitting in mumble with us you are missing out on a huge part of what Sundays offer. @Pelargir runs a much more structure , 6v6 comp orientated testing session that happens every Thursday. I recommend you ask him to play it when they get a chance.
Thanks, Howard
I searched for spark as server name, but I couldn't find a 2nd server. Maybe 20 cest was too early and 22 too late. We don't really play long games anymore
I'm interested in joining fun maptesting. You say it's every sunday on the Spark Crafter Collective server ? I just added it to my favorites and will be glad to attend to next play session.
I have to download munble though I just have Teamspeak at the moment.
Same time again this week like every sunday 8PM BST (check the group if you're not sure) - still getting the map list together if you need IP's for the server/mumble its on the group or you can message me/flat/daan. If you have a map you would like to test or if you have an update please message me so i know its the best way to get your map on the list.
Alright I might not come again on your server, I was kicked 1mn after I entered the game. For no apparent reason, maybe because one slot was needed..
So, bye I guess
edit : yeah I tried one more time and was kicked again. I never thought this would happen. What a pity
@MauvaisVitrier sorry to hear you got kicked. there must be a lot of active mappers and regulars playing tonight. Im on a break so I cant say why exactly why it happened. To secure a place and ensure you don't get kicked its quite important to go on the mumble server and let people know you're from the mapping community and there for map testing. Otherwise you'll be assumed to be random and open to the random kicking for slots to be made.
Its nothing personal, If you're unknown to the admins they are obliged to make room for mappers. but that wont happen if you're on mumble.
Don't get disheartened and have another crack
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Tonight's map test is going to be a very special one. The Kodiak is the first SCC map (of many?!!?!) to go official so its an occasion for some not so serious celebration! It's going to be a Troop rage spectacular!! Everyone over the age of 18 is under strict orders to get alcohol for tonight.
We'll be starting at the usual time of 8PM GMT. Join mumble 10 to 20 minutes before to get the party started! The mumble details are:
Wait, there's someone younger? :O
The ns2_orbital_beta map has been updated so the draw calls are now very low all over the map now. And some subscribers would like to play this map. If any server owners could put this map in rotation on there server that would be great to get some long play time feed back.
Thanks, Max
Off the top of my head, I've got...
-ns2_temple
-ns2_orbital_beta
-ns2_relik
But I'm sure I'm forgetting some!
Ok, I have seen them test the ns2_orbital_beta map and watched them play it on twitch/tv. Have herd then saying it is marine sided when the marines win. Then alien sided when they win. They don't change side to see if the map is good or bad. Not just stacked or uneven player skills. So where is all the input on maps that are supposed to be tested before the mappers move on to keep or change the map in any way. I mean I have seen them play and the commander has no idea what to do, he seems to never have played NS2 or its a first time out. How do players like that really test a map when they don't even know what to look for. I would think that only a group of competitive, or just all well skilled players would be the best way to test the maps they might play on. Lets face it for anyone to start mapping for NS2, and put god knows how many hours of work it takes to make a map. Even maps base of orignal NS1 maps. Like Veil, Caged, Hera and Orbital, etc. With no real input on the maps, seems to be that maps in general would then just be a waste of time. So for mappers to move forward with there maps lets try to have some real specific thoughts on the maps so others can play them. Or what would be great , if server owners would run the maps for a while on pubs to see what reaction players in general have about the maps.
Thanks, Max
Whether or not it's one-sided on a strategical level, the map is simply awkward to play on on a player-level. Every room and corridor is very tight, making it awkward to play on as Lerk or Fade, especially once shotguns are out. Some of the obstacles throughout the map don't help.
On a sidenote, I found it almost impossible to attack the south-western TP as an alien safely. There's only two entrances and no way to flank. A vent could help.
Getting a feel for the map is very important. You can only get that by playing it many times. SCC tests are that much more valuable if you attend regularly.
As for balance feedback you'll generally find the losing side on a unfamiliar crying 'unbalanced', so you have to take that with a pinch of salt.
We just have too many maps to play each one twice and our tests need be light-hearted and fun. I'm sorry you don't see much value in the tests but without attending the whole sessions and sitting in mumble with us you are missing out on a huge part of what Sundays offer.
@Pelargir runs a much more structure , 6v6 comp orientated testing session that happens every Thursday. I recommend you ask him to play it when they get a chance.
Thanks, Howard
We've got relic and caged so far
Thanks, for the update. Yes have already contacted him. Want to get 6v6 play info.
Thanks, Max
edit: You know what, nvmd. I scrolled up to the top of the page
'cuz I rushed frost yesterday to be done for today and turns out there's a final of a worldcup or something...
Server is not responding on my side of the world. Ping = 999.
Uhm... we were actually playing. Maybe you had the old address?
host: scc.mostlyoriginal.net
port: 12437
I have to download munble though I just have Teamspeak at the moment.
So, bye I guess
edit : yeah I tried one more time and was kicked again. I never thought this would happen. What a pity
Its nothing personal, If you're unknown to the admins they are obliged to make room for mappers. but that wont happen if you're on mumble.
Don't get disheartened and have another crack