lets also consider the marine-equivalent to a fade: Power armor and HMG-
Fade: 80 resources for hive#2 1-2 minutes for hive to create itself 44 resources for fade so thats 124 resources(44 at risk) and about 3 minutes of waiting time.
Heavy armored HMG: 45 resources for prototype lab 50 resources for research(altogether thats about as much time as a hive) 20 for suit 27 for HMG so its 142 resources(47 at risk) and about same waiting time BUT...
this is ALL assuming the comm. isnt doing anything else important simultaneously
The moral: aliens can concentrate on more than 1 thing since more than 1 can be a gorge, but Marines are limited to 1 commander doing everything economical and technological
ZunniThe best thing to happen to I&S in a long whileJoin Date: 2002-11-26Member: 10016Members
<!--QuoteBegin--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->Yeah you're right. You know much more about games then everyone on the NS team. We must just be totally stupid, right?
You can't just talk from anecdotal evidence and expect your words to have any weight.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Damn, all I have to do to get Flayra to respond to my posts is be lame, have no point and make no sense....
<!--QuoteBegin--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->"AND LETS GET SOME PRODUCTIVE POSTING IN HERE, I COME HERE FOR HELP, NOT COMPLAINTS!!"<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Every post here is productive. People post accounts of games (however embellished) and you read them and decide if you agree. Sometimes people rant, sometimes people give too few details to make their case, but you think about them, respond (or not) and move on. In the end you've learned something about your opinion of the game and other people's.
That said--If all you want is tips and tricks on how to get your server running optimally then YOU'VE read the wrong forum. This is the general forum. It's for anything. If you don't want to read another rant, don't. If all you want is server tweaks, start a server tweaks thread here: <a href='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/index.php?act=SF&f=8' target='_blank'>http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/in....php?act=SF&f=8</a>
Don't complain that noone else wants the same things you do. Start a thread, talk about what you want and don't talk about what you don't.
Also, because there's more junk to wade through means more varied types of people are playing the game. That's good for NS; take the good (more players/support) with the bad (more jerk offs who only want to rant--myself included <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' valign='absmiddle' alt='smile.gif'><!--endemo-->. That's just part of life.
You realize that a few months were spent balancing this game. Not only that, but as a clan leader I have seen games where we got whooped as both marines and aliens. First round, we were marines, we put up a pretty good fight that lasted a long time, and we lost eventually. Second round, we were aliens, we lost almost right away.
Point is it depends on whos playing, and most of the time the good people want to play aliens because they dont want to be bogged down by a commander who may or may not be good. If you get a bunch of good people on marines, and bunch of good people on aliens, and theres a good commander at the comm, the game is going to be more balanced than you'll be able to imagine at the moment
<!--QuoteBegin--Tzarcon+Dec 20 2002, 04:23 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Tzarcon @ Dec 20 2002, 04:23 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->You realize that a few months were spent balancing this game. Not only that, but as a clan leader I have seen games where we got whooped as both marines and aliens. First round, we were marines, we put up a pretty good fight that lasted a long time, and we lost eventually. Second round, we were aliens, we lost almost right away.
Point is it depends on whos playing, and most of the time the good people want to play aliens because they dont want to be bogged down by a commander who may or may not be good. If you get a bunch of good people on marines, and bunch of good people on aliens, and theres a good commander at the comm, the game is going to be more balanced than you'll be able to imagine at the moment<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> alright, fine. Ill buy it from u for now. But i still think they need hotkeys(ones that dont get unbound if they are set to a movement key for example) and ctrl-grouping for commander interface, that would enlighten my day like never before. <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' valign='absmiddle' alt='smile.gif'><!--endemo-->
It seems that some people's idea of balanced is "I can 0wn j00 with any class all by myself" or that both sides are the exactly the same. Neither of which are true for NS. The whole theme of the mod is "survival of the fittest", if both sides were exactly the same, they would be equally fit and both would survive.
I would like to thank Mr. Butt Monkey Salad for starting yet another "NS is unbalanced" thread. Each and every "NS is unbalanced" thread starts yet another lively debate about the balance of NS. Each and every lively debate provides further proof that NS is in fact very well balanced. Otherwise there would be no debates.
I would just like to point out that the first time I ever commanded we won. Do you know why? Because my team understood that I was new to it and helped me understand. Not only that, but they communicated really bleepin' well. I didn't have a clue what I was doing, and yet I did a decent job commanding that team, and my team let me know.
Now from an alien stand point: I've been on alien teams that just utterly sucked. Something like 5 gorges I believe, and we lost something awful.
In my opinion, this mod is pretty well balanced. I mean, maybe a few tweaks here and there might make it even better, but what game out there doesn't need a few tweaks?
The fact that both sides are so different is what makes the game more interesting. I like aliens because they take more teamwork then people give credit for. But at the same time you can think for yourself about what class you want to be and what upgrades you want. That’s a problem I see the marines you can ask the commander for stuff doesn’t mean your going to get it as for gorges only 1 gorge really is needed the whole game the only reason for 2 would be to build defenses in two different areas. More then one gorge before the first hive is what kills aliens in pubs that or if the gorge is just building d before the hive. I think what people need is learn how the game really works for example I don’t think people understand how the hive distributes the resources seen to many gorge fights or gorges building O chambers. O chambers are easy to kill even if you put a defense one behind it and every one you build was 14-28 rcs that go to a 2nd hive it adds up believe me skulks are best defense the first 10 mins. I think the only major difference of the 2 sides is when the marines are losing they tend to last longer then when the aliens are losing.
<!--QuoteBegin--Bytor+Dec 20 2002, 04:34 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Bytor @ Dec 20 2002, 04:34 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->I would like to thank Mr. Butt Monkey Salad for starting yet another "NS is unbalanced" thread. Each and every "NS is unbalanced" thread starts yet another lively debate about the balance of NS. Each and every lively debate provides further proof that NS is in fact very well balanced. Otherwise there would be no debates.
Thank you Mr. Butt Monkey Salad.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> i said i would buy it for the time being, now im back and still cant say its balanced. The fact that 1 person is doing all the commanding means there is 1 more person than there is on aliens team under that much thinking/stress. See, still aint balanced. Its always unbalanced in 1 way or another nomatter how u look at it.
<!--QuoteBegin--BlazerX+Dec 20 2002, 04:39 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (BlazerX @ Dec 20 2002, 04:39 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->I would just like to point out that the first time I ever commanded we won. Do you know why? Because my team understood that I was new to it and helped me understand. Not only that, but they communicated really bleepin' well. I didn't have a clue what I was doing, and yet I did a decent job commanding that team, and my team let me know.
Now from an alien stand point: I've been on alien teams that just utterly sucked. Something like 5 gorges I believe, and we lost something awful.
In my opinion, this mod is pretty well balanced. I mean, maybe a few tweaks here and there might make it even better, but what game out there doesn't need a few tweaks?<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> Than it was obviously cuz aliens were 100% newb material cuz games dont get won with marines that easily. Please think/consider b4 u post.
<!--QuoteBegin--Butt monkey salad+Dec 20 2002, 10:11 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Butt monkey salad @ Dec 20 2002, 10:11 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--><!--QuoteBegin--BlazerX+Dec 20 2002, 04:39 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (BlazerX @ Dec 20 2002, 04:39 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->I would just like to point out that the first time I ever commanded we won. Do you know why? Because my team understood that I was new to it and helped me understand. Not only that, but they communicated really bleepin' well. I didn't have a clue what I was doing, and yet I did a decent job commanding that team, and my team let me know.
Now from an alien stand point: I've been on alien teams that just utterly sucked. Something like 5 gorges I believe, and we lost something awful.
In my opinion, this mod is pretty well balanced. I mean, maybe a few tweaks here and there might make it even better, but what game out there doesn't need a few tweaks?<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> Than it was obviously cuz aliens were 100% newb material cuz games dont get won with marines that easily. Please think/consider b4 u post.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> Oh the irony..
Listen, I'm not even gonna try to argue. You can't with a moron.
Right now, there are too many people at too many different places on the learning curve. For ANYONE to be able to claim a blanket imbalance. Even at the upper end, players are still evolving.
The hive rush will always be a pain to defend, but it will be defended against eventually. Ultimately, there are enough options that everything has a foil.
The real problem is that too many people aren't trying to learn the game right now, and others are too busy trying to take advantage of exploits.
The best answer is to find a good pub, play with friends, and weather the storm.
Mr. Salad, you can't expect to see exact features on both sides. Yes the marines are "technically" down a man on the aliens. However, marines can spawn faster. What about the gorge? Unless you are a pretty good gorge you aren't all that useful on the front lines. I mean, sure he can build def chambers but fighting? You need skill. NS is balanced, just not in the "exactly equal" sence of the word. Check the defination of <a href='http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=balanced' target='_blank'>Balanced</a>. The second one applies best. The balance of NS is still a work in progress, but it does not require major efforts. Slight tweaks will do.
Overall, Im uninstalling it soon unless they come out with a patch and, if no patch for alien nerfs, than this will be one of the only mods i will never consider playing again cuz of its denial of misbalance.
IRT all stupid flamers: sorry, Im getting a little rusty on n00b language, ull have to speak proper english from now on.
Hmm, I know you don't get many of them on this forum, but don't you people know just to ignore people who are just trying to get a reaction? Im guesing Buttmonkey is laughing at you all. Just let this thread die.
Attack the rushing marines in narrow entryways and corners before they reach the hive the easiest way to stop them from advancing. Trying to attack the marines in an open well-defended area or across long hallway is crazy Its better for the aliens to rush for ambush points at the start of the game the game then the base it self which only works on newbies. Even if they know you are there is not much they can do by the time they start shooting at you. You should already waste them.
I think thats what I just said <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' valign='absmiddle' alt='smile.gif'><!--endemo-->.
<!--QuoteBegin--mojojojo+Dec 20 2002, 05:34 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (mojojojo @ Dec 20 2002, 05:34 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->Hmm, I know you don't get many of them on this forum, but don't you people know just to ignore people who are just trying to get a reaction? Im guesing Buttmonkey is laughing at you all. Just let this thread die.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> this thread apparently wont die until the flamers get out of denial.
As for the misbalanced races issue, lemme know when either players find ways to make it seem much more balanced or they come with a balancing patch. Im not gonna be here for a long time.
What are you talking about sure the comander is stressfull job but it doesn't all depend on him. I seen games with good comanders and marines that don't listen. The same thing can be said about the gorge. Its even worst because if you can have a whole team of newbie gorges instead of just one newbie comander.
<!--QuoteBegin--Butt monkey salad+Dec 20 2002, 10:48 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Butt monkey salad @ Dec 20 2002, 10:48 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--><!--QuoteBegin--mojojojo+Dec 20 2002, 05:34 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (mojojojo @ Dec 20 2002, 05:34 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->Hmm, I know you don't get many of them on this forum, but don't you people know just to ignore people who are just trying to get a reaction? Im guesing Buttmonkey is laughing at you all. Just let this thread die.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> this thread apparently wont die until the flamers get out of denial.
As for the misbalanced races issue, lemme know when either players find ways to make it seem much more balanced or they come with a balancing patch. Im not gonna be here for a long time.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> A little quote From a clan i use to be in, ^_^
<!--QuoteBegin--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> We dont care about your problems, we dont care what you think, We are here to play the game. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Generally i would agree with you but in this case i think you might be wrong. I really think he is that stupid to belief the not-so-clever-things he is talking about.
Dear salad of human shaped animal behinds,
there could be 3 possible reasons for your problem:
1. You play some strange game which calls itself natural selection as well but is a completely different game. You maybe should look into the manual for finding out the URL of the messageboard for your game.
2. You allways play commander. In this case you must horribly suck and you should think about a) let someone other command or b) get some common sense, then commanding is much more easy.
3. You play as a marine. This is really bothering. Then you must suck so much that your whole team can not compensate. I can't think of anyone sucking so bad but then again you should never say never. :o)
The game (at least the game we all play) is pretty much balanced right now. In fact IF it is unbalanced then in favour for the marines, because while marines can be equiped with anything any time in the game (only limited by resources which are plenty mid to endgame), aliens need to have 2 hives to have any chance against good equiped marines and 3 hives to have any chance against good build structures (and lots of resources as well). And even with 3 hives they do not come even close to the structure destroying abilities of the marines (which they have without holding any hive). The grenade launcher does aprox 200 dmg against the 80 of bilebomb and a siege turret does even 330 dmg, firing in a big radius not caring about walls, so you do not even have to be close to the structure you want to take out). Remember, you win this game by destroying structures, not killing enemies.
<!--QuoteBegin--Butt monkey salad+Dec 20 2002, 05:48 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Butt monkey salad @ Dec 20 2002, 05:48 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->As for the misbalanced races issue, lemme know when either players find ways to make it seem much more balanced or they come with a balancing patch. Im not gonna be here for a long time.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> We will all pretend to miss you.
To me it sounds like he thinks he should be able to win the game even without any sort of teamwork. Basically, he is whining because he can't run off and rambo and still win the game, yet he seems to think the aliens do it all the time. Yes, aliens tend to run off alone more often, but they can do this because they are smaller and faster. Do you honestly think that the aliens win by not talking to each other and just running around looking for kills? No. They speak to each other, attack from the front and then flank from the back, and tell their teammates where they are needed. Whenever I play the game, I am usually an alien, because most players (probably ones like the guy who started this post) make a bee-line for the "Join Marines" entrance. As a result, I have learned to play aliens very well. When I play as aliens, I feel like we are constantly struggling against a superior foe, not the other way around. As a result, alien players adapt, and use their brains more often. I would say about half of the kills that I accumulate could have been prevented had my quarry simply used their BRAINS, instead of blindly walking into a room, or walking in a straight line without checking their six, or a whole group building a resource collector instead of having a few people guard, or at the very least, open their freaking EARS.
I play on the marine team as well, so don't try any of that "you don't know what it's like!" crap. The game isn't about aim, its not about 1337 frag skillz, its about using your damn BRAIN. A smart player stops what he is doing and listens when he hears noise, he travels in groups, and he always checks cielings. Sounds to me like you are too busy asking your com for a HMG and heavy armor at your spawn the whole time.
[edit: One more thing, does anyone else see the irony in this? "ull have to speak proper english from now on."
<!--QuoteBegin--Bytor+Dec 20 2002, 06:05 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Bytor @ Dec 20 2002, 06:05 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--><!--QuoteBegin--Butt monkey salad+Dec 20 2002, 05:48 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Butt monkey salad @ Dec 20 2002, 05:48 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->As for the misbalanced races issue, lemme know when either players find ways to make it seem much more balanced or they come with a balancing patch. Im not gonna be here for a long time.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> We will all pretend to miss you.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> was a joke.
Anyways, no I dont stick with 1 server, I join many low-ping servers and Aliens win 85% of time anyhow. Plus Im rarely commander and when I am I usually do about as good or better than other marine commanders out there. It has NOTHING to with my skillz cuz I whoop marines as an alien just as easily as an alien team whoops mine. Get it? Got it? Good!
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Fade: 80 resources for hive#2
1-2 minutes for hive to create itself
44 resources for fade
so thats 124 resources(44 at risk) and about 3 minutes of waiting time.
Heavy armored HMG: 45 resources for prototype lab
50 resources for research(altogether thats about as much time as a hive)
20 for suit
27 for HMG
so its 142 resources(47 at risk) and about same waiting time BUT...
this is ALL assuming the comm. isnt doing anything else important simultaneously
The moral: aliens can concentrate on more than 1 thing since more than 1 can be a gorge, but Marines are limited to 1 commander doing everything economical and technological
You can't just talk from anecdotal evidence and expect your words to have any weight.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Damn, all I have to do to get Flayra to respond to my posts is be lame, have no point and make no sense....
How about this, "I AM GOOD WORK GUY"!!!!!
Every post here is productive. People post accounts of games (however embellished) and you read them and decide if you agree. Sometimes people rant, sometimes people give too few details to make their case, but you think about them, respond (or not) and move on. In the end you've learned something about your opinion of the game and other people's.
That said--If all you want is tips and tricks on how to get your server running optimally then YOU'VE read the wrong forum. This is the general forum. It's for anything. If you don't want to read another rant, don't. If all you want is server tweaks, start a server tweaks thread here: <a href='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/index.php?act=SF&f=8' target='_blank'>http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/in....php?act=SF&f=8</a>
Don't complain that noone else wants the same things you do. Start a thread, talk about what you want and don't talk about what you don't.
Also, because there's more junk to wade through means more varied types of people are playing the game. That's good for NS; take the good (more players/support) with the bad (more jerk offs who only want to rant--myself included <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' valign='absmiddle' alt='smile.gif'><!--endemo-->. That's just part of life.
--Frahg
Point is it depends on whos playing, and most of the time the good people want to play aliens because they dont want to be bogged down by a commander who may or may not be good. If you get a bunch of good people on marines, and bunch of good people on aliens, and theres a good commander at the comm, the game is going to be more balanced than you'll be able to imagine at the moment
It's dead.
Big shtick.
Point is it depends on whos playing, and most of the time the good people want to play aliens because they dont want to be bogged down by a commander who may or may not be good. If you get a bunch of good people on marines, and bunch of good people on aliens, and theres a good commander at the comm, the game is going to be more balanced than you'll be able to imagine at the moment<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
alright, fine. Ill buy it from u for now. But i still think they need hotkeys(ones that dont get unbound if they are set to a movement key for example) and ctrl-grouping for commander interface, that would enlighten my day like never before. <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' valign='absmiddle' alt='smile.gif'><!--endemo-->
Thank you Mr. Butt Monkey Salad.
Do you know why? Because my team understood that I was new to it and helped me understand. Not only that, but they communicated really bleepin' well. I didn't have a clue what I was doing, and yet I did a decent job commanding that team, and my team let me know.
Now from an alien stand point: I've been on alien teams that just utterly sucked. Something like 5 gorges I believe, and we lost something awful.
In my opinion, this mod is pretty well balanced. I mean, maybe a few tweaks here and there might make it even better, but what game out there doesn't need a few tweaks?
Thank you Mr. Butt Monkey Salad.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
i said i would buy it for the time being, now im back and still cant say its balanced. The fact that 1 person is doing all the commanding means there is 1 more person than there is on aliens team under that much thinking/stress. See, still aint balanced. Its always unbalanced in 1 way or another nomatter how u look at it.
Do you know why? Because my team understood that I was new to it and helped me understand. Not only that, but they communicated really bleepin' well. I didn't have a clue what I was doing, and yet I did a decent job commanding that team, and my team let me know.
Now from an alien stand point: I've been on alien teams that just utterly sucked. Something like 5 gorges I believe, and we lost something awful.
In my opinion, this mod is pretty well balanced. I mean, maybe a few tweaks here and there might make it even better, but what game out there doesn't need a few tweaks?<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Than it was obviously cuz aliens were 100% newb material cuz games dont get won with marines that easily. Please think/consider b4 u post.
Do you know why? Because my team understood that I was new to it and helped me understand. Not only that, but they communicated really bleepin' well. I didn't have a clue what I was doing, and yet I did a decent job commanding that team, and my team let me know.
Now from an alien stand point: I've been on alien teams that just utterly sucked. Something like 5 gorges I believe, and we lost something awful.
In my opinion, this mod is pretty well balanced. I mean, maybe a few tweaks here and there might make it even better, but what game out there doesn't need a few tweaks?<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Than it was obviously cuz aliens were 100% newb material cuz games dont get won with marines that easily. Please think/consider b4 u post.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Oh the irony..
Listen, I'm not even gonna try to argue. You can't with a moron.
The hive rush will always be a pain to defend, but it will be defended against eventually. Ultimately, there are enough options that everything has a foil.
The real problem is that too many people aren't trying to learn the game right now, and others are too busy trying to take advantage of exploits.
The best answer is to find a good pub, play with friends, and weather the storm.
This is the the most Idiotic thing i have ever heard. Its Your opinion, and i dont share the same view
Overall, Im uninstalling it soon unless they come out with a patch and, if no patch for alien nerfs, than this will be one of the only mods i will never consider playing again cuz of its denial of misbalance.
IRT all stupid flamers: sorry, Im getting a little rusty on n00b language, ull have to speak proper english from now on.
Im guesing Buttmonkey is laughing at you all. Just let this thread die.
Im guesing Buttmonkey is laughing at you all. Just let this thread die.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
this thread apparently wont die until the flamers get out of denial.
As for the misbalanced races issue, lemme know when either players find ways to make it seem much more balanced or they come with a balancing patch. Im not gonna be here for a long time.
Im guesing Buttmonkey is laughing at you all. Just let this thread die.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
this thread apparently wont die until the flamers get out of denial.
As for the misbalanced races issue, lemme know when either players find ways to make it seem much more balanced or they come with a balancing patch. Im not gonna be here for a long time.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
A little quote From a clan i use to be in, ^_^
<!--QuoteBegin--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> We dont care about your problems, we dont care what you think, We are here to play the game. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
<i>"For every forum post whining about the aliens being too strong, there is an equal number of newbie marines that just got schooled in a game."</i>
Generally i would agree with you but in this case i think you might be wrong. I really think he is that stupid to belief the not-so-clever-things he is talking about.
Dear salad of human shaped animal behinds,
there could be 3 possible reasons for your problem:
1. You play some strange game which calls itself natural selection as well but is a completely different game. You maybe should look into the manual for finding out the URL of the messageboard for your game.
2. You allways play commander. In this case you must horribly suck and you should think about a) let someone other command or b) get some common sense, then commanding is much more easy.
3. You play as a marine. This is really bothering. Then you must suck so much that your whole team can not compensate. I can't think of anyone sucking so bad but then again you should never say never. :o)
The game (at least the game we all play) is pretty much balanced right now. In fact IF it is unbalanced then in favour for the marines, because while marines can be equiped with anything any time in the game (only limited by resources which are plenty mid to endgame), aliens need to have 2 hives to have any chance against good equiped marines and 3 hives to have any chance against good build structures (and lots of resources as well). And even with 3 hives they do not come even close to the structure destroying abilities of the marines (which they have without holding any hive). The grenade launcher does aprox 200 dmg against the 80 of bilebomb and a siege turret does even 330 dmg, firing in a big radius not caring about walls, so you do not even have to be close to the structure you want to take out). Remember, you win this game by destroying structures, not killing enemies.
I hope i could help out a bit to "enlighten" you,
with best wishes and friendly regards :o)
We will all pretend to miss you.
I play on the marine team as well, so don't try any of that "you don't know what it's like!" crap. The game isn't about aim, its not about 1337 frag skillz, its about using your damn BRAIN. A smart player stops what he is doing and listens when he hears noise, he travels in groups, and he always checks cielings. Sounds to me like you are too busy asking your com for a HMG and heavy armor at your spawn the whole time.
[edit: One more thing, does anyone else see the irony in this? "ull have to speak proper english from now on."
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was a joke.
Anyways, no I dont stick with 1 server, I join many low-ping servers and Aliens win 85% of time anyhow. Plus Im rarely commander and when I am I usually do about as good or better than other marine commanders out there. It has NOTHING to with my skillz cuz I whoop marines as an alien just as easily as an alien team whoops mine. Get it? Got it? Good!