1.04 Please Hurry...

KickboyKickboy Join Date: 2002-11-21 Member: 9548Members
<div class="IPBDescription">More "special needs" players than admins</div> Well thats it the model exploit has spread.
I just went to 3 seperate servers in a row, 2 with model exploits,
1 with marines building outsited the map.
Basically if an admin is not playing the "special needs" players are going to
show up and ruin the game.

Hell I would take 1.031 with only the model fix in.
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  • Silver_FoxSilver_Fox Spammer Join Date: 2002-01-24 Member: 34Members, NS1 Playtester, Contributor
    its being worked on

    you act if Flayra is just saying "Screw you" and is walking away ...

    be patient - find servers with admin mod that have already fixed this issue
  • RionRion Join Date: 2002-11-08 Member: 7752Members
    needs... fixing.... badly.....
  • Silver_FoxSilver_Fox Spammer Join Date: 2002-01-24 Member: 34Members, NS1 Playtester, Contributor
    its...being...worked...on......
  • InsidiousInsidious Join Date: 2002-11-21 Member: 9553Members
    Well, some good has come of this. I'm finding out which servers are well admined and worth playing on, I finally have a favorite server, after randomly wandering ever since NS was released <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' valign='absmiddle' alt='biggrin.gif'><!--endemo-->
  • ComproxComprox *chortle* Canada Join Date: 2002-01-23 Member: 7Members, Super Administrators, Forum Admins, NS1 Playtester, NS2 Developer, Constellation, NS2 Playtester, Reinforced - Shadow, WC 2013 - Silver, Subnautica Developer, Subnautica Playtester, Pistachionauts
    If you look in the General Discussion, you may notice all the whining, err posts about balance and other bugs. May as well update it all in one go!
  • KingKahuna[KKG]™KingKahuna[KKG]™ Join Date: 2002-11-21 Member: 9507Members, Constellation, Reinforced - Shadow
    <!--QuoteBegin--Kilmster+Dec 21 2002, 03:34 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Kilmster @ Dec 21 2002, 03:34 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->If admins refuse to install the damn metamod plugin fix for this that voogru coded; than it is their own damn fault =/<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    That IS correct.
  • StoneburgStoneburg Join Date: 2002-11-11 Member: 8174Members
    It is not possible to make a game with the amount of variables that NS has "lamer free". People will always be able to ruin others game some way. The only solution is... admins. If you play on un-admined or badly admined servers, well that's your own fault.
  • KickboyKickboy Join Date: 2002-11-21 Member: 9548Members
    <!--QuoteBegin--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->you act if Flayra is just saying "Screw you" and is walking away ...<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    No, I am not acting like that. I am also not being impatient. I am begging.
    There is a complete difference.
  • Rabid_LlamaRabid_Llama Join Date: 2002-11-02 Member: 4340Members
    Judging by this mod's track record, the patch will be out a.s.a.p., which means a few days after some major problem pops up. This isn't because they wait a week, THEN fix it -- I'm sure it's because this mod is really complicated. Imagine looking at a page full of code that you were sure worked just fine and trying to find where the single error is.
  • ArchzaiArchzai Join Date: 2002-11-10 Member: 8007Members
    yeah lamers are ruining my two favorite servers..

    i saw TWO skin hackers in a row yesterday..

    one game had one

    the other time had 2

    luckily the first time the admin was there = ban forever <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' valign='absmiddle' alt='tounge.gif'><!--endemo--> ROFL
  • SupernornSupernorn Best. Picture. Ever. Made. Ever. Join Date: 2002-11-07 Member: 7608Members, Constellation
    hey, let the dev team finish their break...then we can expect 1.04
  • Infected_MarineInfected_Marine Join Date: 2002-12-21 Member: 11287Members
    edited December 2002
    <!--QuoteBegin--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->Well thats it the model exploit...
    ...marines building outsited the map.
    <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    First of all, it is not a model change, it is activating an unactivated class.
    Second, you are upset cause the severs where you usually team stack and give the aliens hundreds of resource points are now being won by those heroic Marines who have chosen to fight against the oppression of the Karhaa.
    Third, you are also upset that Infected marines are killing you and your team mates at an unpresidented rate (I made 13 kills with one life, in this order: 4 LMG/pistol kills, 3 knifes, 5 HMG kills, and 1 more knife to kill the last Human Marine).
    Fourth, Marines building outside in space or on the landing pad of Hera is a problem with the map, if a problem at all, which I don't think, since it is a big trade off.

    <i>You better not cry, you better not pout, I'm telling you why...
    Infected Marine is comming to kill us all!</i> <!--emo&::asrifle::--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/asrifle.gif' border='0' valign='absmiddle' alt='asrifle.gif'><!--endemo-->
  • MMZ_TorakMMZ_Torak Join Date: 2002-11-02 Member: 3770Members
    <!--QuoteBegin--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->First of all, it is not a model change, it is activating an unactivated class.
    <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    Actually, I think it is using a legitimate command in an illegitimate way.

    <!--QuoteBegin--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->Second, you are upset cause the severs where you usually team stack and give the aliens hundreds of resource points are now being won by those heroic Marines who have chosen to fight against the oppression of the Karhaa.
    <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    You aren't defending the use of this exploit, are you?
  • coilcoil Amateur pirate. Professional monkey. All pance. Join Date: 2002-04-12 Member: 424Members, NS1 Playtester, Contributor
    You seriously registed on the forum for the sole purpose of attempting to legitimate an obvious exploit? Why on earth would Flayra have implemented an "infested marine" class, accessable for FREE and visually/functionally identical to the marines, which you turn into instantly by using a command that was obviously intended to be used by the commander only?

    Enjoy your "new class" while it lasts, you cheating ########. Go back to the myg0t forums; you'll get a better response there.
  • KotauKotau Join Date: 2002-11-04 Member: 6903Members
    Cool down coil....

    I've never seen you get steamed about anything before,

    Dont let someone who registered to tick everyone off have exactly what they want.
  • CatgirlCatgirl Join Date: 2002-11-03 Member: 5741Members
    Yeah I saw a couple of those "Marines" in my single game played today...then the idiot was telling everyong else how to do it.

    Only slows the Marines down for a second or two to pump a couple shots into anyone incoming to "test" them, so when one guy comes FROM the Alien base looking like a Marine and you know there's cheaters...they don't generally last long.

    Then you can just mock them 'til they quit the server.
  • ViPrViPr Resident naysayer Join Date: 2002-10-17 Member: 1515Members
    this is very upsetting. my friend is coming over tomorrow. he's interested in trying out NS for the first time and now his first impression is going to be ruined by these inconsiderate jerks. i don't feel like showing it to him until the patch comes out and by then he will probably have to leave the country.
  • Infected_MarineInfected_Marine Join Date: 2002-12-21 Member: 11287Members
    <!--QuoteBegin--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->Why on earth would Flayra have implemented an "infested marine" class, accessable for FREE and visually/functionally identical to the marines<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    While this might sound oddballed, I believe that all the evidence I need to prove that it may have been added intentionally is this:

    Flaya is the "Overmind" which in SC made the infected Kerrigan as a sort of super solider thing.
    Why else would a nearly fully funtional marine that runs faster then a skulk, has Heavy Armor, Jet Pack (at the same time to boot), Regenration and Cloaking exist in the game? And you have to ask your self do you want want to play in a Natural selection that lacks a god like me to punish those that would oppress the chosen people (Karhaa)? I don't think so.

    Also, I am completly aginst the prolifiration of this exploit, and now I am kicking myself for ever letting it out to the one person who started spreading it everywhere. The worst problem is that although many people won't spread it themselves that guy is still out their and so are a hundred of his pro-prolifiration recruits.

    <!--QuoteBegin--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->this is very upsetting. my friend is coming over tomorrow. he's interested in trying out NS for the first time and now his first impression is going to be ruined by these inconsiderate jerks. i don't feel like showing it to him until the patch comes out and by then he will probably have to leave the country.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    Don't worry, most servers are patched against this exploit, so you can show him how to use your rejoining resource trick.

    I mean honestly people, I hate that exploit, why do all of you use it? And then you complain about me?
  • CatgirlCatgirl Join Date: 2002-11-03 Member: 5741Members
    I've yet to see a cheater with Heavy Armour or Jetpack. To get those they have to pick them up, which would mean inside the Marine base.

    Did see one who got a Shotgun once, though. That was a pain in the arse.
  • Infected_MarineInfected_Marine Join Date: 2002-12-21 Member: 11287Members
    edited December 2002
    No, you can get the HA and JP (at the same time) as alien upgrades before you morph.

    I won't get into details because no one wants more then one Uber Infected Marine (myself), but suffice to say these abilities and equipment are intentional.
  • coilcoil Amateur pirate. Professional monkey. All pance. Join Date: 2002-04-12 Member: 424Members, NS1 Playtester, Contributor
    edited December 2002
    <b>** Be nice! You're the last person I should have to tell this to! **</b>
  • DurikkanDurikkan Join Date: 2002-12-11 Member: 10625Members
    <!--QuoteBegin--Infected Marine+Dec 22 2002, 12:39 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Infected Marine @ Dec 22 2002, 12:39 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->While this might sound oddballed, I believe that all the evidence I need to prove that it may have been added intentionally is this:
    <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    ...

    Ummm, What about the evidence to the contrary, like how Flayra has specifically said that it is a cheat command and was not meant to be usable when sv_cheats is equal to 0
  • FlayraFlayra Game Director, Unknown Worlds Entertainment San Francisco Join Date: 2002-01-22 Member: 3Super Administrators, NS2 Developer, Subnautica Developer
    For the record, this is an exploit, and wasn't intended in any way. It's been fixed, along with other bugs and balance issues in v1.04, which has just entered testing. I'm hoping it'll be ready for public release by Xmas.
  • matsomatso Master of Patches Join Date: 2002-11-05 Member: 7000Members, Forum Moderators, NS2 Developer, Constellation, NS2 Playtester, Squad Five Blue, Squad Five Silver, Squad Five Gold, Reinforced - Shadow, NS2 Community Developer
    Ah .. just what I wanted for christmas!
  • CatgirlCatgirl Join Date: 2002-11-03 Member: 5741Members
    Some of those 1.04 changes are scaring me, Flayra...seems like an awful lot of Marine-nerfing going on without much happening to the Aliens but a depowering of Acid Rocket's splash.

    I mean...THREE different Marine methods of winning are going down the toilet here...Phase Rushing, Inf Portal Rushing, and Hive Sieging.

    I can see Phase/Inf Rushing because you don't like the rush-to-win mentality...but I think upping the price of Sweeps then making Siege targets HAVING to be visible is kind of harsh.
  • merC1merC1 Join Date: 2002-11-06 Member: 7345Members
    edited December 2002
    <b>** Be nice or don't post **</b>
  • GuspazGuspaz Join Date: 2002-11-01 Member: 2862Members, Constellation
    edited December 2002
    <b>** Be nice or don't post **</b> EDIT (Guspaz): OK. Here goes.

    That's all well and good Infected Marine, but this still doesn't explain your continued use of the exploit.
  • Soylent_greenSoylent_green Join Date: 2002-12-20 Member: 11220Members, Reinforced - Shadow
    ... in the list of things which are changed in 1.04 you can practically read how to use this exploit, I'm not sure it's a good thing spreading it even more.

    I Mean this exploit is so annoying, and those who abuse it generally just shrug it of saying something like "It's not a cheat it's a console command" or "it's not cheating, it must have been put there deliberatly, how likely is it that writing some gobbledigook in the console will turn you into a marine if it wasn't" or just plain mouthing of. Ofcourse it's cheating, ofcourse it's exploiting a console command which should only be available to the marine commander but these people wont listen... I'm wondering if these are the "disfunctional family people" or the "l33t h4x0r5"-people who migrated from Cs to NS or if they are "uncategorisable".

    On a lighter note an NS upgrade (even if it's just server side) is just what I wanted for christmas <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' valign='absmiddle' alt='biggrin.gif'><!--endemo--> , that and a new gfx card since I'm running with a *host* tnt2 m64 *host* <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' valign='absmiddle' alt='tounge.gif'><!--endemo-->
  • CatgirlCatgirl Join Date: 2002-11-03 Member: 5741Members
    Whoa, Flayra's going hardcore. <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' valign='absmiddle' alt='biggrin.gif'><!--endemo-->

    Flayra attacks! -== <!--emo&::skulk::--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/skulk.gif' border='0' valign='absmiddle' alt='skulk.gif'><!--endemo--> -( Wraa! ) <!--emo&:0--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/wow.gif' border='0' valign='absmiddle' alt='wow.gif'><!--endemo--> <!--emo&:0--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/wow.gif' border='0' valign='absmiddle' alt='wow.gif'><!--endemo--> <!--emo&:0--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/wow.gif' border='0' valign='absmiddle' alt='wow.gif'><!--endemo--> -( Help! )
  • chia-onochia-ono Join Date: 2002-11-27 Member: 10053Members
    <!--QuoteBegin--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->Don't worry, most servers are patched against this exploit, so you can show him how to use your rejoining resource trick.

    I mean honestly people, I hate that exploit, why do all of you use it? And then you complain about me?
    <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    The rejoin exploit is for the aliens. So is the "alien marine" exploit.

    By saying that it is ok to cheat because other people cheat too shows ignorance and stupidity.
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