Note To Clan Players
Moon
Join Date: 2002-11-16 Member: 8873Members
Join Date: 2002-11-16 Member: 8873Members
<div class="IPBDescription">Not amused</div> Hi all,
For those clan-guys that are willing to give someone without a clan-tag a chance to prove themselves, without assuming that they are "newbies" due to lack of afformentioned tag, I salute you.
For the rest I say: Not everyone who is clanless is a "n00b". Not everyone who is clanless admires your l33t skillz while your attitude upsets most people on the team. Not everyone appreciates a clan-comm who constantly belittles his marines.
My sad story:
Tonight after a break from ns I decided, "cool, let's give it another try". I start off on a 4 man-marine team. Non-clan player takes the comm and is immediately insulted "omg noob comm...gg". After hammering the poor guy for a while the comm decides to give up his position to the l33t clan-guy. This guy manages to constantly insult former comm. During all this pathetic performance I manage to reach a hive...killing a skulk there and I"m out of ammo. "I need ammo" I radio twice.
Apparently the clan-comm was too busy insulting to notice my request. A gorge arrives and I proceed to attempt to knife him. After getting in some hits (and taking some) the gorge runs off and I'm forced to back away due to lack of health and skulk approaching. Meanwhile the comm is screaming "OMG...Moon is scared of the fatty!!" "OMG!!". I'm then berated and insulted for not chasing after the gorge, maybe I should have thrown my knife ?
Eventually I'm given ammo and by that time I'm skulk lunch. When I calmly inform the comm that he failed to deliver ammo to a marine at a key-position his "I GAVE YOU AMMMO TWICE" rant begins. At the point I'm not exactly in the mood to play anymore and decided to write this message here.
Again to (certain) arrogant clannies: A clan-tag does not a good player make !! repeat that please
Anyone have similar stories ?
For those clan-guys that are willing to give someone without a clan-tag a chance to prove themselves, without assuming that they are "newbies" due to lack of afformentioned tag, I salute you.
For the rest I say: Not everyone who is clanless is a "n00b". Not everyone who is clanless admires your l33t skillz while your attitude upsets most people on the team. Not everyone appreciates a clan-comm who constantly belittles his marines.
My sad story:
Tonight after a break from ns I decided, "cool, let's give it another try". I start off on a 4 man-marine team. Non-clan player takes the comm and is immediately insulted "omg noob comm...gg". After hammering the poor guy for a while the comm decides to give up his position to the l33t clan-guy. This guy manages to constantly insult former comm. During all this pathetic performance I manage to reach a hive...killing a skulk there and I"m out of ammo. "I need ammo" I radio twice.
Apparently the clan-comm was too busy insulting to notice my request. A gorge arrives and I proceed to attempt to knife him. After getting in some hits (and taking some) the gorge runs off and I'm forced to back away due to lack of health and skulk approaching. Meanwhile the comm is screaming "OMG...Moon is scared of the fatty!!" "OMG!!". I'm then berated and insulted for not chasing after the gorge, maybe I should have thrown my knife ?
Eventually I'm given ammo and by that time I'm skulk lunch. When I calmly inform the comm that he failed to deliver ammo to a marine at a key-position his "I GAVE YOU AMMMO TWICE" rant begins. At the point I'm not exactly in the mood to play anymore and decided to write this message here.
Again to (certain) arrogant clannies: A clan-tag does not a good player make !! repeat that please
Anyone have similar stories ?
Comments
More or less, alot of these experiences are isolated. I may be wrong, but yes sometimes people believe automatically that if you dont have a clan tag then your new. I created a clan with me and my friends, i dont see how that makes me better than anyone else. We're good, but that doesn't mean that we somehow can judge others just because their name.
--edit-- If your in a clan, be friendly! Dont think your better than everyone else. Theres nothing worse than cocky clan players, no one cares for your eliteist attitude, its a big turn off in gaming. Especially when people just want to play a game for a while and have some fun then instantly get insulted as soon as they join.
There is no clan Rawr and I only use it because I like the word and say it alot.
If it gives me any more credibility when playing, all the better...
if you feel its that big an issue, just stick something in front of your name.
Hell, use [Rawr] - we can be the clan of people who don't want to be in clans but still feel we are important enough to be noticed ... or .. something ..
I guess i am an arrogant clanner, oh well.
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Well the thing is there's a difference between cautiously watching what your team is doing over time as compared to insulting them right from the get go. At least you seem to be mature enough to study your team as opposed to verbally attacking them.
At any rate, thanks for the thoughts all.
I think I may take you up on that offer Fox <!--emo&;)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/wink.gif' border='0' valign='absmiddle' alt='wink.gif'><!--endemo--> Although I was thinking something along the lines of [nc] = no clan <!--emo&;)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/wink.gif' border='0' valign='absmiddle' alt='wink.gif'><!--endemo-->
Also, I've had great fun with clan-players as well. So please don't take this as an attack on all clan-players. It's just that recently I seem to encounter more and more "elitism" for lack of a better description.
Well chosen diplomatic words seem to have alot higher success rate of convincing someone to do something in my experience...as opposed to the "omg you suck" rant that some use to verbally pummel someone into obeying their wishes.
I think a problem with online gaming (I guess the internet in general) is that it is sometimes easy to forget that you are interacting with a real human that has feelings etc.
Anyways, thanks once again all <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' valign='absmiddle' alt='smile.gif'><!--endemo-->
Oh, and to just be an arrogant clanner to whoever said it... the word is spelt 'elitist'
/me decides to not be mean anymore, before me gets slapped.
Cut it out, ffs.
Oh, and to just be an arrogant clanner to whoever said it... the word is spelt 'elitist'
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I'm probably generalizing to a degree, but as I've said already I've had some really excellent games with clanners.
The post was meant to be viewed by all clanners, but the content so far as a lack of decency goes, was aimed at a specific subset.
Hopefully I'll have more luck and play with some of the more mature guys that I see responding to my thread.
Unfortunately, the type of clanners who this thread does apply to are probably the same ones that wouldnt even dream of reading these forums, because the majority of people here arent elite enough.
Just ignore them thats my best advice but dont join them, even if they are what they are, you dont have to become like them.
This clan guy i'm referring to is , lets call him BobTheClanGuy.
My small expirience in ns_ecplipse. Game began and i chose to be on marine team, as i was a newbie & very excited. "neat, ill be commander.." . I didnt fear the challange, must start somewhere. So, i pull up the chair and placed 2 portals, then i didnt quite know what to build..eventually i chose armory and armslab. I wanted to get HMGs available slightly faster, but i would have not given them out yet. BobTheClanGuy says : "OMG! what the **** we do with armslab at this point??!?!?!" and he went away.
BobTheClanGuy asked for medpack(s), i had trouble finding him..he died. Now he says lets vote him out, and i got voted out. then he says " i will not be commander, we had a bad start..we will lose." "why must we always get these blody noobs! they ruin our game!"
My message to "elite" players:
You just dont happen to born as commander with elite skills, you need to learn it the hard way probably. Yes, you will be insulted, called a noob, voted out, but thats what every good commander has gone trough.
I usually have my own built-in ignore filter set very high when i'm playing.
If you get good ones, brilliant. They'll pick up the slack from the newer players and teach them the ropes.
If you get bad ones, you're screwed. You'll have to pick up their slack, and have to suffer their constant abuse for doing so.
This is mainly why I never play on public clan servers. If the clanners come along and you're not doing things their way, they can (and sometimes do) make your game miserable.
granted chances are you play a lot more then the non-claner in general but that doesnt give you the right to bash others
and the clanners that are this way lack social skill and thats all i have to say in this matter for now
I must admit that I do get a bit nasty sometimes, like when I'm comm and have told the team that Area XXX is under attack only to see 1/3 of them run off in the opposite direction from the waypoint or when someone else is comm, and I put a spraypaint down ("Build Here" Spraypaint) and tell them that here is the best place, and they go and ignore me, and build it right outside the door or something equally stupid.
As for newbies, I generally just tell them the best way to do things. Like when they build a TF in the middle of the room, I'll not complain, I just say "In future, putting it in the corner makes it harder to attack."
It all depends on what kind of game I've played, if I've just had a bad game, I'm generally a bit **** off and even the slightest bit of stupidity sends me over the edge. If I've just had a good game, then I'm generally much nicer.
i can tell if some oen ahs skill or knows what they are doing by what they say and do not just by the stuff next to there name.
and as for the calnners all joining the same team... is well.... FO! we can go on the same team if we want! go away!!
/me cries
I'd like a key for my normal spray, as well as a BUILD HERE darnit spray, with a different key bound to each. That'd be COOL!
and i still see comms placing tf without having it coverd by turrets from all sides like the triangle setup etc
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