That_Annoying_KidSire of TitlesJoin Date: 2003-03-01Member: 14175Members, Constellation
<!--QuoteBegin--Marik_Steele+Apr 9 2003, 08:27 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Marik_Steele @ Apr 9 2003, 08:27 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Darn, what I'd give for a "Cops" or "Americas' Most Wanted" style cameraman to follow the MS PirateBuster squad as they bust into this guy's house or something. <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'><!--endemo--> <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> that would definetly be sweet
*get you skinny #$% on the floor, NOW!* *donthurtmepleaseIdidntdoanything!* *surething scumbag, your coming with me* *noooooooooooooooooo!*
Marik_SteeleTo rule in hell...Join Date: 2002-11-20Member: 9466Members
edited January 2004
<!--QuoteBegin--th@ annoying kid+Apr 10 2003, 10:06 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (th@ annoying kid @ Apr 10 2003, 10:06 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin--Marik_Steele+Apr 9 2003, 08:27 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Marik_Steele @ Apr 9 2003, 08:27 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Darn, what I'd give for a "Cops" or "Americas' Most Wanted" style cameraman to follow the MS PirateBuster squad as they bust into this guy's house or something. <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.natural-selection.org/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'><!--endemo--> <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> that would definetly be sweet
*get you skinny #$% on the floor, NOW!* *donthurtmepleaseIdidntdoanything!* *surething scumbag, your coming with me* *noooooooooooooooooo!* <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> I was thinking more along the lines of:
Police: (Knocks on door) We know you're in there, and we've got a warrant! It's no use trying! Software pirate: (doesn't reply; instead bars door with another peice of furniture, then goes to computer to filetransfer his entire hard drive to an unknown location). Police: (To other policeman) I don't see what we're going to do. I can see why those SWAT guys thought it would be a waste of time to bring a battering ram and search squad for a pasty-white-faced loser, but now we've got no way of getting in!
(A rusty old car, possibly older than 15 years, slowly comes up to the house. An average plain-clothes guy in his 30s steps out of the driver's seat and walks up to the policemen)
Owner of old car: What seems to be the problem, officers? Police: Some jerk software pirate's locked himself in and-- Owner of old car: (whips out cell phone, which is already turned on. To cell phone:) This is it.
(As he walks back to his old car, two unmarked, black vans with very dark tinted windows screech to the front of the house; a man wearing a black trenchcoat and sunglasses steps out of the passenger's side door of the second van.)
Police: (to trenchcoat man) Wha...what do you think you're doing? Trenchcoat: Go film a Dunkin' Donuts commercial or something, old man. This kid's <i>our</i> [expletive deleted] now. (Makes a single thundering knock on door) PIRACY. MICROSOFT. Software pirate: You'll never get anything out of me! Trenchcoat: You asked for it. (Makes a signal to 1st van, pumping arm and fist up and down.)
(The driver of the 1st van turns a bit so its rear is facing the house. Both of the van's backdoors burst open to reveal an odd satellite-looking thing hooked up to something that fills the entire rest of the van. Nothing is heard for 30 seconds; then intense sobbing is heard from inside the house.)
Police: What was that. <i>What have you done?</i> Trenchcoat: Focused EMP. Without access to a working microwave, refrigerator, and source of pornography, these types usually turn themselves in with no effort on our part. Carry on.
(Dumbfounded, the policemen don't speak for even a full minute after the 2 vans have gone. The sobbing from inside the house hasn't stopped.) Police: (To the other policeman) Makes you wonder what they had in the 2nd van, eh?
That_Annoying_KidSire of TitlesJoin Date: 2003-03-01Member: 14175Members, Constellation
<!--QuoteBegin--Marik_Steele+Apr 10 2003, 02:26 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Marik_Steele @ Apr 10 2003, 02:26 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin--th@ annoying kid+Apr 10 2003, 10:06 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (th@ annoying kid @ Apr 10 2003, 10:06 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin--Marik_Steele+Apr 9 2003, 08:27 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Marik_Steele @ Apr 9 2003, 08:27 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Darn, what I'd give for a "Cops" or "Americas' Most Wanted" style cameraman to follow the MS PirateBuster squad as they bust into this guy's house or something. <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.natural-selection.org/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'><!--endemo--> <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> that would definetly be sweet
*get you skinny #$% on the floor, NOW!* *donthurtmepleaseIdidntdoanything!* *surething scumbag, your coming with me* *noooooooooooooooooo!* <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> I was thinking more along the lines of:
Police: (Knocks on door) We know you're in there, and we've got a warrant! It's no use trying! Software pirate: (doesn't reply; instead bars door with another peice of furniture, then goes to computer to filetransfer his entire hard drive to an unknown location). Police: (To other policeman) I don't see what we're going to do. I can see why those SWAT guys thought it would be a waste of time to bring a battering ram and search squad for a pasty-white-faced loser, but now we've got no way of getting in!
(A rusty old car, possibly older than 15 years, slowly comes up to the house. An average plain-clothes guy in his 30s steps out of the driver's seat and walks up to the policemen)
Owner of old car: What seems to be the problem, officers? Police: Some jerk software pirate's locked himself in and-- Owner of old car: (whips out cell phone, which is already turned on. To cell phone:) This is it.
(As he walks back to his old car, two unmarked, black vans with very dark tinted windows screech to the front of the house; a man wearing a black trenchcoat and sunglasses steps out of the passenger's side door of the second van.)
Police: (to trenchcoat man) Wha...what do you think you're doing? Trenchcoat: Go film a Dunkin' Donuts commercial or something, old man. This kid's <i>our</i> [expletive deleted] now. (Makes a single thundering knock on door) PIRACY. MICROSOFT. Software pirate: You'll never get anything out of me! Trenchcoat: You asked for it. (Makes a signal to 1st van, pumping arm and fist up and down.)
(The driver of the 1st van turns a bit so its rear is facing the house. Both doors burst open to reveal an odd satellite-looking thing hooked up to something that fills the etrite rest of the van. Nothing is heard for 30 seconds; then intense sobbing is heard from inside the house.)
Police: What was that. <i>What have you done?</i> Trenchcoat: Focused EMP. Without access to a working microwave, refrigerator, and source of pornography, these types usually turn themselves in with no effort on our part. Carry on.
(Dumbfounded, the policemen don't speak for even a full minute after the 2 vans have gone. The sobbing from inside the house hasn't stopped.) Police: (To the other policeman) Makes you wonder what they had in the 2nd van, eh? <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> LMAO!
YES, nail this guy. Pirating a game for yourself is one thing, but selling it, especialy to people you dont know, is definatly stealing and bad, and he deserves to get busted for it.
<!--QuoteBegin--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> so whats in the second van? <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> Probably something really scary that involves radiation and fire <!--emo&:0--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/wow.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wow.gif'><!--endemo-->
I just got an email from PayPal's fraud investigation folks. I'll only post sections of it, as there's obviously some info in there that probably should be kept confidential.
<!--QuoteBegin--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->As stated in our User Agreement, PayPal's Buyer Complaint Policy only applies to the shipment of goods, not to disputes about the attributes or quality of goods received. Therefore, we cannot reverse this transaction or issue a refund. We encourage you to continue to work directly with the seller to amicably resolve this dispute.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
So in other words, no refund for me. That's not a big deal, since a refund isn't what I was after. It was only $25 CDN anyways. <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif'><!--endemo-->
The email continues into what I expected would be a mention of them investigating his fraudulent activities, maybe finding him guilty of software theft and pirating, thanking me for my report, etc, etc.....
<!--QuoteBegin--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->PayPal does not tolerate fraud or illegal activities. Your complaint has been noted in the record of the PayPal user you reported. If we find this user has violated our policies, we will investigate and take appropriate action. If this occurs, you may be contacted in the future about the status of this complaint.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
This is somewhat disappointing. The wording of that statement gives me the impression that they simply have no intention of seriously doing anything about it. I really hope they prove me wrong and I end up getting an email indicating the result of an investigation, but I certainly won't hold my breath.
I'm still waiting for <i>any</i> response from FAST about the report I filed with them almost a week ago. I figured they would have at least sent me an email stating that the report I submitted was received. If/when I receive a response from them, I'll be sure to let you folks know.
Many companies in the industry actually dont do that much to combat piracy because in certain situations piracy actually increases sales. Strange fact but true... <!--emo&:(--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/sad.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='sad.gif'><!--endemo-->
ThansalThe New ScumJoin Date: 2002-08-22Member: 1215Members, Constellation
hehe, hatt knows the truth
hehe, I know it is true, most games I pirate and ACTUALY enjoy, I go out and buy (max pain, Morrocrack etc)
Oh, and syco, hehe, PayPal will take revenge. They tend to be faster accting if some one is frauding them (in wich case they close the account, no they don't give back the money, they just close the account).
PayPal honestly can't do much else though.
Think of them like a bank (cuss thats JUST what they are) Imagine you had payed the guy with a check or CC from "First National Bank Of Where Ever Sycophant Lives".
What would you bank do if you reported this to em? Not much, its out of their juristiction (He isn't wearing any pants) (from <a href='http://www.machall.com/morrowind/' target='_blank'>here</a>)
Again, the best you can hope for from PayPal is for them to freez his account
UZiEight inches of C4 between the legs.Join Date: 2003-02-20Member: 13767Members
<!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'><!--endemo--> Man...in some ways I feel sorry for this guy when they bust him.
Software company is gonna string him up on rusty hooks and take turns punching him to near death. <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'><!--endemo-->
<!--QuoteBegin--UZi+Jan 8 2004, 05:55 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (UZi @ Jan 8 2004, 05:55 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'><!--endemo--> Man...in some ways I feel sorry for this guy when they bust him. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> Lol, just wanted to comment, how the whole NS off-topic community has ganged up against that guy. <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif'><!--endemo-->
Sorry, but its....so....hard...to...resist. <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'><!--endemo--> <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> TenSix, don't you keep up with the stock market at all?
Our Canadian Dollar is at an all time high.
a few days ago it was:
1 CND = .79 USD
1 USD will get you only a buck 20 or so canadian right now.
Our money is slowly becoming worth alot more.
You will eat your words one day when our dollar is worth equal or more than yours and if your ecconomy doesn pick up, that day could be sooner than later.
Marge: Homer, Bill Gates is here! Homer: billionaire, computer nerd, Bill Gates? BG: Homer, I came across your add and I can't figure out what, if anything, "Compu-global-hyper-meganet" is. So rather than risk compeeting with you, i've opted to buy you out. Homer: This is it Marge, all of our hard work is about to pay off.. Marge: Quite Homer you'll queer the deal. Homer: (to BG) I reluctantly accept. BG: OK Boys, your heard the man, "buy him out". *2 nerdy thugs start to smash up the room Homer: What are you doing! BG: I'm buying you out, I didn't get to be so rich from writing a bunch of cheques. (Evil Laugh).
An update would rock, but I haven't seen Sycophant around the boards in quite some time. <!--emo&???--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/confused.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='confused.gif'><!--endemo-->
I bet Microsoft is holding him in a secret warehouse somewhere beating the crap out of him until he agrees to testify that this guy pirated software, killed babies and is holding Osama Binladen in his basement.
<!--QuoteBegin--DOOManiac+Apr 7 2003, 07:23 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (DOOManiac @ Apr 7 2003, 07:23 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Warez monkeys downloading for free or trading amongst friends is one thing, but I think we can all agree that this here is wrong. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> as somebody who like.. is pretty involved in the 'scene' yeah.. for sharing with mates etc.... not for profit..
woah i just realised the threadomancy <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'><!--endemo--> i wonder how this panned out...
<!--QuoteBegin--Stakhanov+Apr 7 2003, 12:20 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Stakhanov @ Apr 7 2003, 12:20 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Bah , just kindly ask for a refund and if he doesn't want to then threaten to contact the authorities... I don't think this kind of action needs such a harsh punishment. Would you like your friends to be imprisonned for selling burned CDs at an extra low price ? Empty CDs aren't free either.
However , if he seems to be shamelessly hosing people , ask for a negative price <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif'><!--endemo--> <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> You seem to have a very flawed idea of what is 'fun' and what isn't.
Hey folks! The ol' bantering pad is still lookin' good, as always. <!--emo&;)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/wink.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wink.gif'><!--endemo-->
Got an email from Gwahir asking where I've been for the past while, so I figured I'd stop by to find out how anyone would even remember me, considering my last post here (of any kind) was probably six months ago.
I was rather surprised to see that <i>this</i> old thread was hauled up from the 5th layer of death and decay. <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif'><!--endemo-->
Need an update on that fraud thing? Here goes - <i>nothing</i>. Not a thing happened. Even after I spent a week or so digging up a ton of info on this guy and sent it off to the proper authorities, the only acknowledgement I got that this even happened was from PayPal implying that they won't really be doing anything. And the other companies/organizations didn't even give me that much.
'Course, nowadays, most publishers just turn a blind eye if it's just one person pirating games because it's not worth the cost to even buy the rope for one noose. And even though this guy was selling dozens of pirated games, I guess no publisher wants to be the one to draw from their legal budget if it could (indirectly) benefit another publisher.
Hey, and all I wanted was positive acknowledgement from someone who could, and most likely would, do something to prevent this guy from ripping off everyone else and making sick profit in the process. It's pretty sad when all I got was that pitiful email from PayPal.
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that would definetly be sweet
*get you skinny #$% on the floor, NOW!*
*donthurtmepleaseIdidntdoanything!*
*surething scumbag, your coming with me*
*noooooooooooooooooo!*
that would definetly be sweet
*get you skinny #$% on the floor, NOW!*
*donthurtmepleaseIdidntdoanything!*
*surething scumbag, your coming with me*
*noooooooooooooooooo!* <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
I was thinking more along the lines of:
Police: (Knocks on door) We know you're in there, and we've got a warrant! It's no use trying!
Software pirate: (doesn't reply; instead bars door with another peice of furniture, then goes to computer to filetransfer his entire hard drive to an unknown location).
Police: (To other policeman) I don't see what we're going to do. I can see why those SWAT guys thought it would be a waste of time to bring a battering ram and search squad for a pasty-white-faced loser, but now we've got no way of getting in!
(A rusty old car, possibly older than 15 years, slowly comes up to the house. An average plain-clothes guy in his 30s steps out of the driver's seat and walks up to the policemen)
Owner of old car: What seems to be the problem, officers?
Police: Some jerk software pirate's locked himself in and--
Owner of old car: (whips out cell phone, which is already turned on. To cell phone:) This is it.
(As he walks back to his old car, two unmarked, black vans with very dark tinted windows screech to the front of the house; a man wearing a black trenchcoat and sunglasses steps out of the passenger's side door of the second van.)
Police: (to trenchcoat man) Wha...what do you think you're doing?
Trenchcoat: Go film a Dunkin' Donuts commercial or something, old man. This kid's <i>our</i> [expletive deleted] now. (Makes a single thundering knock on door) PIRACY. MICROSOFT.
Software pirate: You'll never get anything out of me!
Trenchcoat: You asked for it. (Makes a signal to 1st van, pumping arm and fist up and down.)
(The driver of the 1st van turns a bit so its rear is facing the house. Both of the van's backdoors burst open to reveal an odd satellite-looking thing hooked up to something that fills the entire rest of the van. Nothing is heard for 30 seconds; then intense sobbing is heard from inside the house.)
Police: What was that. <i>What have you done?</i>
Trenchcoat: Focused EMP. Without access to a working microwave, refrigerator, and source of pornography, these types usually turn themselves in with no effort on our part. Carry on.
(Dumbfounded, the policemen don't speak for even a full minute after the 2 vans have gone. The sobbing from inside the house hasn't stopped.)
Police: (To the other policeman) Makes you wonder what they had in the 2nd van, eh?
that would definetly be sweet
*get you skinny #$% on the floor, NOW!*
*donthurtmepleaseIdidntdoanything!*
*surething scumbag, your coming with me*
*noooooooooooooooooo!* <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
I was thinking more along the lines of:
Police: (Knocks on door) We know you're in there, and we've got a warrant! It's no use trying!
Software pirate: (doesn't reply; instead bars door with another peice of furniture, then goes to computer to filetransfer his entire hard drive to an unknown location).
Police: (To other policeman) I don't see what we're going to do. I can see why those SWAT guys thought it would be a waste of time to bring a battering ram and search squad for a pasty-white-faced loser, but now we've got no way of getting in!
(A rusty old car, possibly older than 15 years, slowly comes up to the house. An average plain-clothes guy in his 30s steps out of the driver's seat and walks up to the policemen)
Owner of old car: What seems to be the problem, officers?
Police: Some jerk software pirate's locked himself in and--
Owner of old car: (whips out cell phone, which is already turned on. To cell phone:) This is it.
(As he walks back to his old car, two unmarked, black vans with very dark tinted windows screech to the front of the house; a man wearing a black trenchcoat and sunglasses steps out of the passenger's side door of the second van.)
Police: (to trenchcoat man) Wha...what do you think you're doing?
Trenchcoat: Go film a Dunkin' Donuts commercial or something, old man. This kid's <i>our</i> [expletive deleted] now. (Makes a single thundering knock on door) PIRACY. MICROSOFT.
Software pirate: You'll never get anything out of me!
Trenchcoat: You asked for it. (Makes a signal to 1st van, pumping arm and fist up and down.)
(The driver of the 1st van turns a bit so its rear is facing the house. Both doors burst open to reveal an odd satellite-looking thing hooked up to something that fills the etrite rest of the van. Nothing is heard for 30 seconds; then intense sobbing is heard from inside the house.)
Police: What was that. <i>What have you done?</i>
Trenchcoat: Focused EMP. Without access to a working microwave, refrigerator, and source of pornography, these types usually turn themselves in with no effort on our part. Carry on.
(Dumbfounded, the policemen don't speak for even a full minute after the 2 vans have gone. The sobbing from inside the house hasn't stopped.)
Police: (To the other policeman) Makes you wonder what they had in the 2nd van, eh? <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
LMAO!
:D
<!--QuoteBegin--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> so whats in the second van? <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Probably something really scary that involves radiation and fire <!--emo&:0--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/wow.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wow.gif'><!--endemo-->
I just got an email from PayPal's fraud investigation folks. I'll only post sections of it, as there's obviously some info in there that probably should be kept confidential.
<!--QuoteBegin--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->As stated in our User Agreement, PayPal's Buyer Complaint Policy only applies to the shipment of goods, not to disputes about the attributes or quality of goods received. Therefore, we cannot reverse this transaction or issue a refund. We encourage you to continue to work directly with the seller to amicably resolve this dispute.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
So in other words, no refund for me. That's not a big deal, since a refund isn't what I was after. It was only $25 CDN anyways. <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif'><!--endemo-->
The email continues into what I expected would be a mention of them investigating his fraudulent activities, maybe finding him guilty of software theft and pirating, thanking me for my report, etc, etc.....
<!--QuoteBegin--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->PayPal does not tolerate fraud or illegal activities. Your complaint has been noted in the record of the PayPal user you reported. If we find this user has violated our policies, we will investigate and take appropriate action. If this occurs, you may be contacted in the future about the status of this complaint.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
This is somewhat disappointing. The wording of that statement gives me the impression that they simply have no intention of seriously doing anything about it. I really hope they prove me wrong and I end up getting an email indicating the result of an investigation, but I certainly won't hold my breath.
I'm still waiting for <i>any</i> response from FAST about the report I filed with them almost a week ago. I figured they would have at least sent me an email stating that the report I submitted was received. If/when I receive a response from them, I'll be sure to let you folks know.
Many companies in the industry actually dont do that much to combat piracy because in certain situations piracy actually increases sales. Strange fact but true... <!--emo&:(--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/sad.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='sad.gif'><!--endemo-->
hehe, I know it is true, most games I pirate and ACTUALY enjoy, I go out and buy (max pain, Morrocrack etc)
Oh, and syco, hehe, PayPal will take revenge.
They tend to be faster accting if some one is frauding them (in wich case they close the account, no they don't give back the money, they just close the account).
PayPal honestly can't do much else though.
Think of them like a bank (cuss thats JUST what they are)
Imagine you had payed the guy with a check or CC from "First National Bank Of Where Ever Sycophant Lives".
What would you bank do if you reported this to em? Not much, its out of their juristiction (He isn't wearing any pants) (from <a href='http://www.machall.com/morrowind/' target='_blank'>here</a>)
Again, the best you can hope for from PayPal is for them to freez his account
Police department: <a href='http://www.torontopolice.on.ca/' target='_blank'>http://www.torontopolice.on.ca/</a>
White Pages: <a href='http://toronto.areaconnect.ca/mega.htm' target='_blank'>http://toronto.areaconnect.ca/mega.htm</a>
Nail this guy, syco.
Software company is gonna string him up on rusty hooks and take turns punching him to near death. <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'><!--endemo-->
Lol, just wanted to comment, how the whole NS off-topic community has ganged up against that guy. <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif'><!--endemo-->
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So thats what, $2 US?
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Sorry, but its....so....hard...to...resist. <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'><!--endemo--> <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
TenSix, don't you keep up with the stock market at all?
Our Canadian Dollar is at an all time high.
a few days ago it was:
1 CND = .79 USD
1 USD will get you only a buck 20 or so canadian right now.
Our money is slowly becoming worth alot more.
You will eat your words one day when our dollar is worth equal or more than yours and if your ecconomy doesn pick up, that day could be sooner than later.
Homer: billionaire, computer nerd, Bill Gates?
BG: Homer, I came across your add and I can't figure out what, if anything, "Compu-global-hyper-meganet" is. So rather than risk compeeting with you, i've opted to buy you out.
Homer: This is it Marge, all of our hard work is about to pay off..
Marge: Quite Homer you'll queer the deal.
Homer: (to BG) I reluctantly accept.
BG: OK Boys, your heard the man, "buy him out".
*2 nerdy thugs start to smash up the room
Homer: What are you doing!
BG: I'm buying you out, I didn't get to be so rich from writing a bunch of cheques. (Evil Laugh).
This is the guys future!
[EDIT:]by the looks of it, he hasnt posted anyhwere since he last posted on this thread, strange, you dont just disappear
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as somebody who like.. is pretty involved in the 'scene' yeah.. for sharing with mates etc.... not for profit..
woah i just realised the threadomancy <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'><!--endemo--> i wonder how this panned out...
Still I remember he was quite active, maby we should track him down...
I wounder what came of all this?
However , if he seems to be shamelessly hosing people , ask for a negative price <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif'><!--endemo--> <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
You seem to have a very flawed idea of what is 'fun' and what isn't.
Got an email from Gwahir asking where I've been for the past while, so I figured I'd stop by to find out how anyone would even remember me, considering my last post here (of any kind) was probably six months ago.
I was rather surprised to see that <i>this</i> old thread was hauled up from the 5th layer of death and decay. <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif'><!--endemo-->
Need an update on that fraud thing? Here goes - <i>nothing</i>. Not a thing happened. Even after I spent a week or so digging up a ton of info on this guy and sent it off to the proper authorities, the only acknowledgement I got that this even happened was from PayPal implying that they won't really be doing anything. And the other companies/organizations didn't even give me that much.
'Course, nowadays, most publishers just turn a blind eye if it's just one person pirating games because it's not worth the cost to even buy the rope for one noose. And even though this guy was selling dozens of pirated games, I guess no publisher wants to be the one to draw from their legal budget if it could (indirectly) benefit another publisher.
Hey, and all I wanted was positive acknowledgement from someone who could, and most likely would, do something to prevent this guy from ripping off everyone else and making sick profit in the process. It's pretty sad when all I got was that pitiful email from PayPal.