<!--QuoteBegin--Sephiroth2k+Apr 15 2003, 10:44 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Sephiroth2k @ Apr 15 2003, 10:44 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> probably 15 res to upgrade it. oc's are a joke. one oc cant defend a resource chamber by itself, no matter how you slice it. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> Right. An OC defending a resource tower? I'd already be happy with an OC that managed to defend itself!
Offense chambers are for offense, defense chambers are for defense. If one of them did both tasks, there would be no need for the other. <!--emo&;)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/wink.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wink.gif'><!--endemo-->
KenichiThis is not a pie.Join Date: 2002-11-01Member: 2941Members, NS1 Playtester
Offense chambers are a suppliment to your offensive attack in the areas of the chambers, meanwhile the defense chambers suppliment your ability to defend areas by healing OCs and other aliens. The chambers don't do what they are meant to do exclusivly. They are meant as a suppliment to your existing force.
rumour mills make the baby Jesus cry <!--emo&:(--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/sad.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='sad.gif'><!--endemo-->
All I was asking was if the electrified RTs were a rumour or not. Kudos to the ppl who actually responded. This was not intended to be a speculation thread.
<!--QuoteBegin--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->QUOTE (Flayra) Oh, another thing about that electrical upgrade: you can research it for a turret factory OR a resource node. Right now it attacks up to two different targets, and actually has a bit of a range. I'm really excited about this for the following reasons:
- Marines can actually defend nodes if they want to spend some cash to do so - Turret placement won't matter as much (sounds bad but I think is good) - Building just a turret factory to defend (!) should now be viable, as should building one turret, two turrets, etc. I think we'll see strats where you build a turret factory near the CC, then research electrical on it to defend it. Or strats where you build a couple TFs next to each other to make an electrical wall. Or marines using it like a bunker, firing from behind it. Or marine structures built between their TF and node, forming an electrical defense, etc.
This upgrade, along with all the other changes, should allow both teams to really try some sick strats. I can't wait.
<a href='http://nsa.wideloader.com/forums/index.php...t=ST&f=21&t=147' target='_blank'>http://nsa.wideloader.com/forums/index.php...t=ST&f=21&t=147</a> scroll down <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
This so far is the only info we appear to have. Yet doesn't this strike you as strange? The poster named Flayra had 3 posts and joined on April 7th. Seems a little strange that Flayra would join such a forum so late and then place a statement in there that hasn't been seen in any of the official changelogs. I'm more willing to believe this "Flayra" in that forum is a troll especially considering that his very language did not sound like the Flayra we all know and love. All I really wanted was a developer or playtester in these official forums to say yes or no. Sorry but I don't count the above post as firm evidence.
KenichiThis is not a pie.Join Date: 2002-11-01Member: 2941Members, NS1 Playtester
That was the cal forums right? Flayra only recently needed to post there with the dawn of 1.1 having cal mode support. It is, as far as we know, truly him.
TalesinOur own little well of hateJoin Date: 2002-11-08Member: 7710NS1 Playtester, Forum Moderators
edited April 2003
Exactly the point I was reading to the end of the thread to bring up. That doesn't SOUND like Flayra, incredibly low postcount, no custom avatar, sig, or even forum title...
Welcome to having been tricked, guys. Far as I know, the only electrifiable structure is the TF. And until it hits the changelog on the main NS page, I'm not going to be believing otherwise. I'd suggest that you do the same.
<!--QuoteBegin--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->Exactly the point I was reading to the end of the thread to bring up. That doesn't SOUND like Flayra, incredibly low postcount, no custom avatar, sig, or even forum title...
Welcome to having been tricked, guys. Far as I know, the only electrifiable structure is the TF. And until it hits the changelog on the main NS page, I'm not going to be believing otherwise. I'd suggest that you do the same. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Good to see someone else backs me up here. Guys, why would Flayra only tell some other distant forum? The official changelogs say nothing about electrified RTs, and none of the devs or playtesters have said anything about them. I wish one of them would so we could end this speculation. I'm with Talesin: I'm waiting for something official.
ive seen and heard nothing from the official 1.1 threads about this E-RT , and it sounds too strong to make it through playtesting, a single unit resource tower that can defend itself against skulks is amazingly good. in 1.04 a marine team needs only hold two or three RT's to win, perhaps this easily defendable RT wont be so much of a problem in the new 1.1 economy system.
at any rate, i still think that post by "flayra" on the other forums is a fake, because it tells a lot of technical information about the upgrades, and if he was going to divulge that much info (which he doesnt do often) he wouldve done it here!!
btw what the heck is so bad about speculation threads? its a chat-forum....
<!--QuoteBegin--Ryo-Ohki+Apr 15 2003, 06:17 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Ryo-Ohki @ Apr 15 2003, 06:17 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->Exactly the point I was reading to the end of the thread to bring up. That doesn't SOUND like Flayra, incredibly low postcount, no custom avatar, sig, or even forum title...
Welcome to having been tricked, guys. Far as I know, the only electrifiable structure is the TF. And until it hits the changelog on the main NS page, I'm not going to be believing otherwise. I'd suggest that you do the same. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Good to see someone else backs me up here. Guys, why would Flayra only tell some other distant forum? The official changelogs say nothing about electrified RTs, and none of the devs or playtesters have said anything about them. I wish one of them would so we could end this speculation. I'm with Talesin: I'm waiting for something official. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> It's not another distant forum. It's the biggest clan forum (NA) that we've got. He's already previously shown his dedication to both clan and pub play(including clan pt's is a great example). It makes a lot of sense that he would post something there, because one of the people that frequents both these forums would post it over here.
TalesinOur own little well of hateJoin Date: 2002-11-08Member: 7710NS1 Playtester, Forum Moderators
Frikk... one problem. ANYONE can sign up on another forum using the name 'Flayra', provided no one else has signed up with it first. IMO, someone just jumped on to toss out a troll.
Supporting evidence: -No mention of electrified RTs in the NS changelog -Lack of standard avatar/sig -No custom title (I mean, come ON... the admins would at /least/ give the real Flayra something like 'NS Creator' or something) -Moderately different word selection, making a statement as a confirmation, instead of the usual 'testing to see if it'll work'.
Detracting evidence: -Someone signed up with the name 'Flayra'.
Get over it, and don't get your hopes up until you see 'electrified RTs' in the main changelog as well.
Same problem Frogg2: it's not official. As far as I'm concerned: not said by dev/playtester here in this forum or mentioned in the official changelogs means it's not there. All we have right now is the work of what would seem, from most accounts, to be nothing more than a troll.
<!--QuoteBegin--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->Oh, another thing about that electrical upgrade: you can research it for a turret factory OR a resource node.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
over in the NSA forums....i think its highly likely that it exists....
EDIT: and if it was false information, i am sure it would no longer be there. But it would be nice in future to present new information in both forums to stop the confusion.
Seeing as this thread is constantly sitting at the top of general discussion I'd hazard a guess that if there really were electrified rts one of the devs/pts would have swung by and at least made a comment.
I stand by my prior statements. until I see something official, it's not there.
I don't believe were getting conspiracy theories of fake posts.
Get a grip people!!
<!--QuoteBegin--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->Amazing how that isn't a public forum, ne? I stand by my statements. If it's real, put it in the changelog.
So your now saying Frogg2 is faking pics ?? <!--emo&???--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/confused.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='confused.gif'><!--endemo-->
And your dictating what Flay should do ? <!--emo&;)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/wink.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wink.gif'><!--endemo-->
I don't know how much flayra wanted revealed so i colored over everything else, but since he did mention Electric RTs in a public forum this should be okay. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> Frogg the whole thread of that is over at the NSA forums. what it says is quite interesting <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif'><!--endemo-->
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plus it will cost res to upgraded the rt ;)
Right. An OC defending a resource tower? I'd already be happy with an OC that managed to defend itself!
All I was asking was if the electrified RTs were a rumour or not. Kudos to the ppl who actually responded. This was not intended to be a speculation thread.
<!--QuoteBegin--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->QUOTE (Flayra)
Oh, another thing about that electrical upgrade: you can research it for a turret factory OR a resource node. Right now it attacks up to two different targets, and actually has a bit of a range. I'm really excited about this for the following reasons:
- Marines can actually defend nodes if they want to spend some cash to do so
- Turret placement won't matter as much (sounds bad but I think is good)
- Building just a turret factory to defend (!) should now be viable, as should building one turret, two turrets, etc. I think we'll see strats where you build a turret factory near the CC, then research electrical on it to defend it. Or strats where you build a couple TFs next to each other to make an electrical wall. Or marines using it like a bunker, firing from behind it. Or marine structures built between their TF and node, forming an electrical defense, etc.
This upgrade, along with all the other changes, should allow both teams to really try some sick strats. I can't wait.
<a href='http://nsa.wideloader.com/forums/index.php...t=ST&f=21&t=147' target='_blank'>http://nsa.wideloader.com/forums/index.php...t=ST&f=21&t=147</a> scroll down <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
This so far is the only info we appear to have. Yet doesn't this strike you as strange? The poster named Flayra had 3 posts and joined on April 7th. Seems a little strange that Flayra would join such a forum so late and then place a statement in there that hasn't been seen in any of the official changelogs. I'm more willing to believe this "Flayra" in that forum is a troll especially considering that his very language did not sound like the Flayra we all know and love.
All I really wanted was a developer or playtester in these official forums to say yes or no. Sorry but I don't count the above post as firm evidence.
Welcome to having been tricked, guys. Far as I know, the only electrifiable structure is the TF. And until it hits the changelog on the main NS page, I'm not going to be believing otherwise. I'd suggest that you do the same.
Welcome to having been tricked, guys. Far as I know, the only electrifiable structure is the TF. And until it hits the changelog on the main NS page, I'm not going to be believing otherwise. I'd suggest that you do the same. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Good to see someone else backs me up here. Guys, why would Flayra only tell some other distant forum? The official changelogs say nothing about electrified RTs, and none of the devs or playtesters have said anything about them. I wish one of them would so we could end this speculation.
I'm with Talesin: I'm waiting for something official.
at any rate, i still think that post by "flayra" on the other forums is a fake, because it tells a lot of technical information about the upgrades, and if he was going to divulge that much info (which he doesnt do often) he wouldve done it here!!
btw what the heck is so bad about speculation threads? its a chat-forum....
Welcome to having been tricked, guys. Far as I know, the only electrifiable structure is the TF. And until it hits the changelog on the main NS page, I'm not going to be believing otherwise. I'd suggest that you do the same. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Good to see someone else backs me up here. Guys, why would Flayra only tell some other distant forum? The official changelogs say nothing about electrified RTs, and none of the devs or playtesters have said anything about them. I wish one of them would so we could end this speculation.
I'm with Talesin: I'm waiting for something official. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
It's not another distant forum. It's the biggest clan forum (NA) that we've got. He's already previously shown his dedication to both clan and pub play(including clan pt's is a great example). It makes a lot of sense that he would post something there, because one of the people that frequents both these forums would post it over here.
Supporting evidence:
-No mention of electrified RTs in the NS changelog
-Lack of standard avatar/sig
-No custom title (I mean, come ON... the admins would at /least/ give the real Flayra something like 'NS Creator' or something)
-Moderately different word selection, making a statement as a confirmation, instead of the usual 'testing to see if it'll work'.
Detracting evidence:
-Someone signed up with the name 'Flayra'.
Get over it, and don't get your hopes up until you see 'electrified RTs' in the main changelog as well.
If what you say is true then why havn't we heard anything about it?
<!--QuoteBegin--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->Oh, another thing about that electrical upgrade: you can research it for a turret factory OR a resource node.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
over in the NSA forums....i think its highly likely that it exists....
<a href='http://nsa.wideloader.com/forums/index.php?act=ST&f=21&t=147' target='_blank'>http://nsa.wideloader.com/forums/index.php...t=ST&f=21&t=147</a> (page 1)
EDIT: and if it was false information, i am sure it would no longer be there. But it would be nice in future to present new information in both forums to stop the confusion.
I stand by my prior statements. until I see something official, it's not there.
Thanks for the information, Frogg2!
Twilight
Get a grip people!!
<!--QuoteBegin--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->Amazing how that isn't a public forum, ne? I stand by my statements. If it's real, put it in the changelog.
Talesin<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
So your now saying Frogg2 is faking pics ?? <!--emo&???--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/confused.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='confused.gif'><!--endemo-->
And your dictating what Flay should do ? <!--emo&;)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/wink.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wink.gif'><!--endemo-->
I don't know how much flayra wanted revealed so i colored over everything else, but since he did mention Electric RTs in a public forum this should be okay. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Frogg the whole thread of that is over at the NSA forums.
what it says is quite interesting <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif'><!--endemo-->
edit:
<a href='http://nsa.wideloader.com/forums/index.php?act=ST&f=21&t=207' target='_blank'>http://nsa.wideloader.com/forums/index.php...t=ST&f=21&t=207</a>
edit: nm you are right supernorn