If You Dont Require Cheating-death On Your Server
Iced_Eagle
Borg Engineer Join Date: 2003-03-02 Member: 14218Members
Borg Engineer Join Date: 2003-03-02 Member: 14218Members
<div class="IPBDescription">tell us why</div> cheating-death i think is an awesome way for the people who care bout the future of the game... if only counter-strike had this back then.... you can grab your copy of cheating-death (both server and client versions) at <a href='http://unitedadmins.com/cdeath.php' target='_blank'>http://unitedadmins.com/cdeath.php</a>
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Read this an be enlightened:
<a href='http://tx3.us.unitedadmins.com/cdeath-why.php' target='_blank'>http://tx3.us.unitedadmins.com/cdeath-why.php</a>
Did you verify this yourself, or just operate on hearsay? CD also doesn't detect cheats, it just blocks them from hooking into HL, or feeds them bad data. I think it's best said by one of the more well known cheat sites:
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CD Now Detects Very simple hack (UA ABM),.. so dont use it anymore.. There are no working public CD hack at the moment.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Read all of this file before using the cheat!
This cheat is NO LONGER based on the #### base. So don't
even bother asking about it. I still use the loader that I
used with ####'s base. But, all loaders are alike.
The "elite" of you could use and OGC loader!
Also, in short... press F12 when the first round starts
to activate the cheat. That's all!
## Features :
## ------------
## - Aimbot
## - Menu
## - ESP
## - bypasses the HLG WH BLOCK !
## - bypasses current VAC !
## - bypasses the Cheater LOG SCREENSHOT!
## - bypasses C-D!
## - and some misc stuff
NOTE:Deleted some names
It IS the best anti-cheat for half-life based games at the moment, but due laziness it is no very popular. UA realizes this and has a small snipet on their site talking about a project called phoenix which be implemented into the mod and turned on by the client (I'm assuming like Q3 or sof2 with punkbuster). Hopefully this will catch on and cheating can become less and less popular.
Also to the person talking about running OGC from a floppy, I think you believed an idiot who told you this. CD doesn't detect cheats, simply prevents them from working. Also OGC is fairly large, looking at the source I remember a vast directory of code. I highly doubt that would fit on your floppy. However it wouldn't matter where it was loaded from for CD to detect.
EDIT: Just saw the person above mines post, I got my info from UA.com so if you are incorrect they are the source of whom is wrong.
ADDED: Total size of this hack is 257KB [263,977 bytes]
But CD doesn't detect cheats. It just stops them from working correctly. Did the cheat work at all? Wallhack, aimbot, etc.?
whereas other anti-cheats stop each particular cheat one at a time, this one prevents a whole class of them from operating properly at all!
all hail CD! also, you can set The All-Seeing Eye to automatically run an executable upon game-start and close it on game-end. so i am always running CD and never worry about the hassle of starting/stopping this lil app.
@{DEAD}scott: C-D shouldn't auth with joolzcheat. Which versions did you run?
By the very nature of how networked games work it is easier to create cheats then it is to detect and block them. This does NOT mean that attempting to detect and block them is futile. I personally operate my server on a zero-tolerance no-cheating policy. Cheaters occupy the same space in my moral fiber hierarchy as people who produce child pornography: people who should be punished severely, looked down upon, and strictly prevented from ever doing it again.
Personally, I would have installed CD on my dedicated server already if the [No C-D] name tags weren't so frigging annoying. I would like them to be configurable, or at least moved to the end of the username rather than the beginning. Truth be told I’ll probably install it anyway, but I still would love this to be changed.
If you had a baseball team, but had no members, why would u hire someone to check the bats to see if they had corks in them.
If you don't know what I am saying then you aren't one of the hundreds of server operators with empty servers. CD isn't going to help u get more ppl to come to your server. It would be good for a VERY popular server cuz it would lessen the wait time for getting in and would stop some cheats. (Like the h2o servers)
If you had a baseball team, but had no members, why would u hire someone to check the bats to see if they had corks in them.
If you don't know what I am saying then you aren't one of the hundreds of server operators with empty servers. CD isn't going to help u get more ppl to come to your server. It would be good for a VERY popular server cuz it would lessen the wait time for getting in and would stop some cheats. (Like the h2o servers) <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
If you have empty servers to start with, you can't blame C-D for that. If you do have semi to full servers with a good set of regulars, you could implement a phased in approach of C-D like many other admins have done in the past months.
For example, you would run C-D in optional mode for 1-2 weeks encouraging everyone to get it installed. Then, you would flip the switch to required. During the optional mode, you could see who has C-D and who doesn't and talk with them about getting it installed.
I think that your regulars will see the benefit of C-D after awhile. But, yeah a 1-2 week phase approach would help keep your server full. You could extend it to 2-4 if you want too.
Besides VAC should be implimented soon, and I think it will be a better solution.
Besides VAC should be implimented soon, and I think it will be a better solution. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
What are you doing running NS then? It's a 3rd party MOD. <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif'><!--endemo-->
Anyway, you obviously don't have much experience with C-D and VAC to be making such comments. Yes, we would all love it if VAC did the job it was meant to. Simply put, it's aproach is different and has been doing nothing but causing issues and opening itself up to easily being worked around by cheat coders.
Meanwhile, many cheat coders have given up on battling with C-D, including Joolz. Others, like OGC coders have been just making foolz of themselves by posting lame and arrogant comments in their news, which only make them look worse than they really are.
So, until VAC greatly improves and rethinks their anti-cheat implementation policy, it'll continue to fail as a viable anti-cheat solution.
Besides VAC should be implimented soon, and I think it will be a better solution.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
CD compliments good admins; it does not replace them.
VAC's track record is...poor, to avoid inflammatory words. My regular CS server recently abandoned VAC and installed CD+mediator. Game quality went up, cheating accusations fell through the floor. Some regulars also showed a noticeable drop in skill...
<a href='http://www.unitedadmins.com/cdeath-why.php' target='_blank'>http://www.unitedadmins.com/cdeath-why.php</a> says it all. If anyone hasn't read it yet, set aside a few minutes and do so.
What are you doing running NS then? It's a 3rd party MOD. <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif'><!--endemo-->
Anyway, you obviously don't have much experience with C-D and VAC to be making such comments. Yes, we would all love it if VAC did the job it was meant to. Simply put, it's aproach is different and has been doing nothing but causing issues and opening itself up to easily being worked around by cheat coders.
Meanwhile, many cheat coders have given up on battling with C-D, including Joolz. Others, like OGC coders have been just making foolz of themselves by posting lame and arrogant comments in their news, which only make them look worse than they really are.
So, until VAC greatly improves and rethinks their anti-cheat implementation policy, it'll continue to fail as a viable anti-cheat solution. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
I am sorry, I thought it was obvious that I was not talking about mods. I'll try to make it clearer next time.
I know a lot about VAC and CD. I am hoping that VAC will work properly in the future. No need for you to come here and act like an ****, because I don't use your anti-cheat tool. I simply answered the question, don't assume that I don't understand the issue.
Supposably the only thing that is getting past CD right now is hacked configs like no recoil and such.
Most of the ones that say they do, they *DID* at one time. Most cheats that bypass C-D don't last very long anymore. We're still improving C-D by adding new blocking techniques for various specialized cheats, like the norecoil cheats. In fact, C-D is in beta testing now for the norecoil blocking.
In your search, did you happen to notice all those that were VAC proof? Do a comparison on those that bypass. You'll notice quite a few more still bypass VAC. C-D is updated a lot more frequently than VAC too, even with their latest releases after a few month dry spell.
But, if you're holding back for VAC, that's your choice. But, if you really believe that VAC is better than C-D (a third party solution), you should spend a little more time in your research. I wouldn't have replied until you posted your insinuendo that VAC was a better choice. Hopefully, it will someday. But, currently it doesn't.