Ns And Voice Communication

KeyserKeyser Join Date: 2003-02-15 Member: 13591Members
edited April 2003 in NS General Discussion
<div class="IPBDescription">How necessary it is</div> I've been playing NS for a solid 4 months now right before 1.04 was released and since then I have been using my headset to talk to other players until a few days ago. Thats when I was unable to use voice communication and playing NS suddenly became so much more difficult.

Commanding became so hard it came to a point where I refuse to command if I can't talk to my marines. I have had a decent career comming, probably win a few more then I lose, but that has changed. Now I lose 80% of the games because I can't communicate with my marines efficiently enough to win games. Its like I have no control over what my marines do, and when I had voice, at least I had partial control, so now I have to type all the orders and commands to everyone while 3 other marines are sitting at base waiting for health or a structure or who knows what.

Not only commanding has become more difficult, but general gameplay as a marine or an alien is harder too. When you notice the marines setting up a phase gate next to your hive you have to pause and type it out leaving you vulnerable for that split second. Not only that but its time wasted you could be attacking. Or requesting health from the comm or giving suggestions is much much harder. Thus I have become a less efficient teamplayer.

My point is, if you are playing without voice, get it, it makes you a much better and more efficient teamplayer, not to mention it is almost a necessity to command with. Headsets are cheap, I think mine cost about $15, and it will improve your game so much.
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  • Pir4nhaXPir4nhaX Join Date: 2003-04-17 Member: 15577Members
    lol, ok, i play without mic and im ok...
    dunno what u exacly mean!
  • CplDavisCplDavis I hunt the arctic Snonos Join Date: 2003-01-09 Member: 12097Members
    Hey Keyser I just did a report on voice comm in NS and com in general. Maybe I should post it soon. ill put it up after I finish it. Im too busy now with finals and this massave criminal justice paper. <!--emo&???--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/confused.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='confused.gif'><!--endemo-->
  • KeyserKeyser Join Date: 2003-02-15 Member: 13591Members
    edited April 2003
    <!--QuoteBegin--Pir4nhaX+Apr 19 2003, 08:56 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Pir4nhaX @ Apr 19 2003, 08:56 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> lol, ok, i play without mic and im ok...
    dunno what u exacly mean! <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Do you command alot? And if you do how easy is it?

    Well, you can play NS for 2 years and never go commander, but your missing out on a huge aspect of the game. Also I was just noticing that voice just benefits the team, I'm not saying its impossible, just saying you'd be a better teamplayer with voice.

    EDIT: Sorry a little late, but that that report sounds interesting. Looking forward to seeing it.
  • ChadsehChadseh Join Date: 2003-03-26 Member: 14916Members
    For me, voice comm makes 95% of the NS experience. Without it, you can't build relationships with other players.

    I certainly wouldn't be playing now if I didn't use my mic.
  • MagiTekMagiTek Join Date: 2002-11-02 Member: 5057Members
    Although I never play commander, I can't imagine playing without a mic. Team coordination is critical to success in NS, and voice comm makes that coordination infinitely easier. Using it is integral to my playstyle.
  • abtmabtm Join Date: 2003-04-08 Member: 15337Members
    At the very least, the commander must have voice communication to communicate properly/quickly with his/her squads. I don't know how nesscesary it is for the grunts to have it.
  • PseudoKnightPseudoKnight Join Date: 2002-06-18 Member: 791Members
    Voice communication is one of the key factors that attracts me to HL mods. Could you imagine it in BF1942 where communication is horrible? (kills are are right next to text messages too, argh)

    Sadly, my sound card is not the best and apparently I'm sending distorted voice to my teammates sometimes. I'm trying to find a way to improve the quality through software means, but I may just need to wait for the hardware.
  • HauntedHaunted Join Date: 2003-03-01 Member: 14178Members
    The biggest reason I still play half-life mods is because of the voice communication feature. I've always wondered why more games do not have this feature.
  • HuntsmanHuntsman Join Date: 2002-11-25 Member: 9929Members
    Unfortunately, I can't use voice-com. It doesn't work with my sound card, and I have a laptop computer so I can't just trade out the card for a different one. I think voice communication would probably make things much easier. I don't think it's a necessity, but I've never really been the commander before so I can't say for sure in that situation.
  • RionRion Join Date: 2002-11-08 Member: 7752Members
    I can't use voice com much, since the computer is in the living room, and since it's there talking at nothing disturbs people.

    Typing also doesn't get noticed very often..

    You don't know how many times I've typed "marines are putting a turret factory in keyhole with a phase gate!! get there now!!" and then repeat it after I suicide against 4 marines expecting alien resistance.. yet no one notices till that guy with voice com goes "holy ****!! they're going to seige our hive!! get to maint now!!"

    me= I said that already <!--emo&???--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/confused.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='confused.gif'><!--endemo-->
  • AgkelosAgkelos Join Date: 2003-02-07 Member: 13243Members
    My mic sends scrabbled voice. it sucks.
  • RandomEngyRandomEngy Join Date: 2002-11-03 Member: 6146Members, Reinforced - Shadow
    edited April 2003
    I started off playing NS not using a mic, then started after quite a bit of playing. I was able to command some victories early on without the use of voicecomm, but it was a while ago, and the scene could be very different now. A mic certainly makes it easier, but it is certainly possible to win without it. You have to rely pretty heavily on communication binds, fast typing, and waypoints, though.

    In Science and Industry, a lot of people don't bother with a mic, but just use a customized commandmenu system with a client hook to insert locations. They might hit a few keys and a message would be sent to the team asking for help at whatever place they were. If you don't have access to a mic, I reccomend getting some basic communication binds going.
  • ZenduZendu Join Date: 2002-11-02 Member: 5138Members
    NS has always been about INFO the faster that your comm knows theres a gorge moving into reactor room or that theres a lerk in powersilo, the better off your team is.

    Commanders pretty much NEED a mic, but other than that only about 2-3 ( assuming 16 person game) need mics also. People ( myself included) stay on the channel to long, trying to explian exactly how they need that tf planted, instead of just saying TF here at no name.

    Personally i dont see how you play without a mic, especially on marines, it just makes the gameplay more fluid.
  • R0x0r_Mc0wnageR0x0r_Mc0wnage Join Date: 2003-04-03 Member: 15168Members
    I can't imagine playing without a mic. Why I wouldn't be able to call monse a flaming noob at the beginning of every game <!--emo&:0--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/wow.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wow.gif'><!--endemo-->
  • StakhanovStakhanov Join Date: 2003-03-12 Member: 14448Members
    I can't use the mic properly... just can't speak english well. I compensate by ultra fast typing (though I'm often typekilled because of that)
    I hate it when people spam voicecomm... can't understand **** and missing important things. You don't realize how hard it is to understand american english spoken through microphone.
    Hence I don't comm often because I'm too slow at it. I prefer giving waypoints then.
  • SgtMarkySgtMarky Join Date: 2003-04-20 Member: 15673Members
    if you ask me, typing is a heck of a lot slower than holding the voice-com button and talking
    and its alot of fun chatting with your friends and other NS players
  • XzilenXzilen Join Date: 2002-12-30 Member: 11642Members, Constellation
    I think it is damned hard without voice comm, and to be honest, not nearly as effective. Being able to communicate is insanely important, especially in real time.
  • ImmacolataImmacolata Join Date: 2002-11-01 Member: 2140Members, NS1 Playtester, Contributor
    u jstu needto learn howe top batltyep reaaLT fas!

    Then playing without mike is a breeze <!--emo&;)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/wink.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wink.gif'><!--endemo-->
  • RabidWeaselRabidWeasel Join Date: 2002-11-02 Member: 5337Members
    I love voice comm, I use it in every HL mod I play a lot (NS, DoD, occasionally S+I).

    It's best when you are playing on a server with a lot of other players that are also using voice comm, and everyone is communicating with one another.

    [Shameless plug]

    Almost all the regulars on Roob's No Time For Muppets NS 1.04, IP 163.1.180.217:27016 use voice-com, and sometimes you can really see the difference between the two teams when one is communicating well and the other isn't.

    [/Shameless plug]

    Skulk rushes can be very effective with the entire team rushing at once, and it's very hard to do without people organising where to meet up, etc. over voice com. Not to mention how much easier it is to weld someone when there's a big microphone over their head <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'><!--endemo-->
  • KeyserKeyser Join Date: 2003-02-15 Member: 13591Members
    Oh yeah, a mic is definetly necessary during a HA/Welder rush. To often do people ignore me when I'm jumping up and down turning my flashlight on and off. You actually need to scream over the voice comm
    "WELD ME FOR THE LUV OF GOD!!!!!1!" To get some results. I noticed how hard it is to get somebody to weld you without voice.
  • PseudoKnightPseudoKnight Join Date: 2002-06-18 Member: 791Members
    Maybe there should be a signal to weld you whether you have a mic or not. Turning your voice comm on and off with the little icon blinking over your head is one thought that comes to mind. I wonder how hard it would be to get everyone to do this.
  • wlibaerswlibaers Join Date: 2002-11-15 Member: 8685Members
    I rarely use it. I have a mic of pretty bad quality. And I guess I'm not alone, as most people who do use it just sound like noise with a bit of a choking sound added. There are a few people who actually speak in an understandable way, but for me typing is faster than repeating the message 10 times.
  • Lord_Of_The_PingsLord_Of_The_Pings Join Date: 2003-02-27 Member: 14079Members
    I always use my mike, if everyone always listens to me is another thing <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif'><!--endemo-->
    no seriously be glad that valve was so nice as to add the voice com to half life, without it I would probably not be able to play properly <!--emo&:(--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/sad.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='sad.gif'><!--endemo-->
    nor would any decent clan or any intelligent person( like most of the people on these forums)
    btw. if you dont use voice com it doesnt mean that youre stupid or untalented, it just means that youre crippled in a way
  • CalantusCalantus Join Date: 2003-03-23 Member: 14823Members
    edited April 2003
    <!--QuoteBegin---=SgtMarky=-+Apr 20 2003, 05:44 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (-=SgtMarky=- @ Apr 20 2003, 05:44 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> if you ask me, typing is a heck of a lot slower than holding the voice-com button and talking
    and its alot of fun chatting with your friends and other NS players <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Die. I hate it when people get all chatty during the entire fricking game. Say hello, talk a little when the action lulls, sure. But if I get killed as a gorge by some marine I should have heard (and even if I couldn't run away, I'd still be annoyed) because you <b>edit</b> were chatting away: it's sensory time, <b>yo</b>. <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif'><!--endemo-->
  • ignotignot Join Date: 2002-10-30 Member: 1762Members
    <!--QuoteBegin--Calantus+Apr 20 2003, 10:15 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Calantus @ Apr 20 2003, 10:15 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->
    Die. I hate it when people get all chatty during the entire fricking game. Say hello, talk a little when the action lulls, sure. But if I get killed as a gorge by some marine I should have heard (and even if I couldn't run away, I'd still be annoyed) because you jerkoffs were chatting away: it's sensory time, biotch. <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif'><!--endemo--> <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Yah, that shows the darker side of voice. The thing I really hate is the chatters who feel the need to blurt out every.single.detail. They don't realise that it's affecting other peoples games because they can't hear shite over the incessant droning.

    By all means call for backup, report empty nodes and enemy presence, but we really don't care how many shots it took to kill that Skulk.
  • PseudoKnightPseudoKnight Join Date: 2002-06-18 Member: 791Members
    Let them know if they're talking too much and what you don't need to hear in a polite manner. Otherwise, they'll keep innocently doing it and you'll get more annoyed and angry for nothing.
  • wlibaerswlibaers Join Date: 2002-11-15 Member: 8685Members
    And then there are those people who think everyone likes the Smurf song as much as they do... <!--emo&:angry:--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/mad.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='mad.gif'><!--endemo-->
  • ElectroKiwiMonkeyElectroKiwiMonkey Join Date: 2002-11-06 Member: 7384Members
    I absolutely love the voice comm, except for a few annoyances:

    - If one or two people are talking, and something important happens that I need to tell everyone about (HOLY **** 5 HAs COMING TO THE HIVE, etc), there's no way to get them to shut up so I can talk. I realize that there is no real solution to this, but when you're in a game with really chatty people it can drive you nuts.

    - Chatty people also start getting on my nerves when I'm trying to listen for footsteps while I build, or so I can time my daring fall from the ceiling onto a strategically placed marine's noggin.

    - I have yet to find any useful documentation on all the various voice settings so I can adjust my speaking volume and stuff.

    And yeah, it's really quite pathetic how typing can get ignored even if it's in all caps and repeated twice. Same with jumping up and down with the flashlight going on and off - you'd think that if someone welds ONE marine who's doing that, they would weld them all...
  • Diablo_fxDiablo_fx Join Date: 2003-02-21 Member: 13793Members
    <!--QuoteBegin--Keyser59+Apr 19 2003, 08:41 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Keyser59 @ Apr 19 2003, 08:41 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> I've been playing NS for a solid 4 months now right before 1.04 was released and since then I have been using my headset to talk to other players until a few days ago. Thats when I was unable to use voice communication and playing NS suddenly became so much more difficult.

    Commanding became so hard it came to a point where I refuse to command if I can't talk to my marines. I have had a decent career comming, probably win a few more then I lose, but that has changed. Now I lose 80% of the games because I can't communicate with my marines efficiently enough to win games. Its like I have no control over what my marines do, and when I had voice, at least I had partial control, so now I have to type all the orders and commands to everyone while 3 other marines are sitting at base waiting for health or a structure or who knows what.

    Not only commanding has become more difficult, but general gameplay as a marine or an alien is harder too. When you notice the marines setting up a phase gate next to your hive you have to pause and type it out leaving you vulnerable for that split second. Not only that but its time wasted you could be attacking. Or requesting health from the comm or giving suggestions is much much harder. Thus I have become a less efficient teamplayer.

    My point is, if you are playing without voice, get it, it makes you a much better and more efficient teamplayer, not to mention it is almost a necessity to command with. Headsets are cheap, I think mine cost about $15, and it will improve your game so much. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Just my word!
    I wont comm without a mic anymore <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'><!--endemo-->
  • LichoLicho Join Date: 2002-11-02 Member: 3858Members, NS1 Playtester
    Yes, voice comm is critical for comms or generally if you wannt to have better gaming experience. If I play marines I almost always command, so I had troubles setting voice system properly to be heard crystal clear. Here are some commands I found/tested which may help you setting voice system properly:

    voice_loopback 1 - great for testing how others hear you
    voice_maxgain 1 - this sets amplification of mic input, default is 5, if your voice is distorted try to lower it to 1
    voice_overdrive 1 - this sets how much sounds of game decrease loudnes if someone speaks (default 2), set to 1 if you don't want this feature.
    voice_scale 2 - this sets amplification of voice communication received from others, default is 1, i set this usually to 1.5 or 2 for louder voice comm.

    Hope this will help some people having troubles with voice quality.
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