Has V1.04 Got Boring Or Just Died?!

XenoMorFXenoMorF Join Date: 2003-04-01 Member: 15113Members, Constellation
<div class="IPBDescription">maybe the end for most NS gamers</div> It's come to my attention that people just are bored and NS is getting less n less players per day, its not so much "want to play ns anyone?" its more of "want to play dod" or some really odd (not so good mods)

I know the NS team are trying their best, but games are getting boring !!! Its the same old tactics over n over with the same old people... although seeing less of the same old people

Its like being in a room locked up for 3 months with 1 movie -- Its getting old fast!

Clans are feeling the pressure too, with many on the brink of either going inactive or collapsing due to players losing interest
I fear i'm losing my umph to carry on too, been finding other ways to keep me entertained by digging into my bag of goodies and getting 2 year old games out (well im sorry its better then playing NS 100 times a day with the same tactics or same people over n over)

And i can tell many of you would say: change tactics / change servers .... well <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif'><!--endemo--> dont make a difference


I doubt v1.1 will make much difference either since not that much is being added (shame but oh well - it was good while it lasted)
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  • SupernornSupernorn Best. Picture. Ever. Made. Ever. Join Date: 2002-11-07 Member: 7608Members, Constellation
    <!--QuoteBegin--XenoMorF+May 10 2003, 04:45 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (XenoMorF @ May 10 2003, 04:45 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> I doubt v1.1 will make much difference either since not that much is being added (shame but oh well - it was good while it lasted) <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    i think you have been greatly mis-informed. <!--emo&;)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/wink.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wink.gif'><!--endemo-->
  • XenoMorFXenoMorF Join Date: 2003-04-01 Member: 15113Members, Constellation
    i meant no drastic changes, like 2/3 new classes for aliens... bigger tech for marines (as in more suites 'n' stuff) ya know ... that kinda stuff <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif'><!--endemo--> i know there are some new weapons and aliens tech being changed in all
  • homerxhomerx Join Date: 2003-04-01 Member: 15094Members
    i love NS...

    but lately the games that ive been playing are boring...

    after posting this i will start to download this half-life mod "sven coop"

    that should keep me busy until 1.1 comes out
  • rennexrennex Join Date: 2002-11-01 Member: 2688Members
    Yes it has gotten boring, but everyone will come back when 1.1 is released, at the very least just to try it.
  • SilentMurdererSilentMurderer Join Date: 2002-10-30 Member: 1751Members
    Supernorn is right. You're VERY GREATLY uninformed <!--emo&;)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/wink.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wink.gif'><!--endemo--> you need to stop plating 24/7 That's your problem. i like play, 2 hours and then take a 3 hour break, play 2 hours and then wait till the next day... That way I don't gert bored =) and NS will NEVER EVER EVER BORE ME!! thanks.
  • XenoMorFXenoMorF Join Date: 2003-04-01 Member: 15113Members, Constellation
    <!--QuoteBegin--SilentMurderer+May 10 2003, 11:50 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (SilentMurderer @ May 10 2003, 11:50 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Supernorn is right. You're VERY GREATLY uninformed <!--emo&;)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/wink.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wink.gif'><!--endemo--> you need to stop plating 24/7 That's your problem. i like play, 2 hours and then take a 3 hour break, play 2 hours and then wait till the next day... That way I don't gert bored =) and NS will NEVER EVER EVER BORE ME!! thanks. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    aint playing it 24/7 anymore, i dont even get to play 10 mins without getting bored... then moving on i fear for my sanity! <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'><!--endemo-->
  • xioutlawixxioutlawix Join Date: 2002-11-05 Member: 7118Members, Constellation
    Not to flame or anything, but what would make you think we care to hear this kind of rant?

    Yes, it is true you're starting to see certain tactics used repeatedly over and over again. This is due in part mostly to the sheer effectiveness of the strat. 1.1 will hopefully further balance the game so as to make more than your run of the mill common strategies viable, hopefully prolonging the longevity of the game.

    As for not caring because " Idoubt v1.1 will make much difference either since not that much is being added (shame but oh well - it was good while it lasted) ", well, don't let the door hit you on the way out.
  • coilcoil Amateur pirate. Professional monkey. All pance. Join Date: 2002-04-12 Member: 424Members, NS1 Playtester, Contributor
    The problem with 1.04 is that certain tactics are too effective - for Marines, you have the option of JPs or a tedius 2-hive lockdown. For aliens, you go D/M/S.

    1.1 is addressing both of these problems, improving many features, introducing a few new ones, adding new maps, and all in all opening up a wealth of possibilities. I don't think you'll find it boring at all.
  • XenoMorFXenoMorF Join Date: 2003-04-01 Member: 15113Members, Constellation
    edited May 2003
    just to defend myself here after saying that, lol... i meant it will get teadious just like v1.04 , the diversity of tactics is utter rubbish , there is no such thing.. clans will find the best way and stick to it --- Its impossible to have more then 1 tactic that works 100% all the time , but there will be some that are close enough

    its just a matter of time
  • SoBe_DragonSoBe_Dragon Join Date: 2002-12-04 Member: 10465Members
    i do happen to agree with NS getting a lil boring now. I cant wait for 1.1 personally...
  • WheeeeWheeee Join Date: 2003-02-18 Member: 13713Members, Reinforced - Shadow
    edited May 2003
    My opinion is that it's only boring if you think it's boring, and get locked into a mindset. Sure, clanners may have already tried everything under the sun, but those tactics are under a different set of rules than pub play. I enjoy NS now as much as I did when I started playing, because I don't usually take the games very seriously (note the alias) and am always trying new stuff (or revising stuff that didn't quite work the last time). Perhaps it's YOU who needs to change, not the game.

    As for 1.1, I agree - it will r0x0r j00r b0x0rz. Balance tweaks are always nice, but the gameplay that is in 1.04 is still pretty awesome.

    *edit* this applies to pubs only, not clanplay - i have no experience in that arena, and so I can't really say anything about it *edit*
  • ElucidElucid Join Date: 2002-11-06 Member: 7385Banned
    Games only get boring to the ones who play it 24/7 so those people that are complaining about it must have NO life at all.
  • AaronAaron vroom vroom der party startah Join Date: 2002-11-05 Member: 7020Members
    Didn't your mother teach you, "if you don't have something nice to say, don't say anything"?

    Feh.
  • CatpokerCatpoker Join Date: 2002-06-25 Member: 816Members
    <!--QuoteBegin--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->the diversity of tactics is utter rubbish , there is no such thing.. clans will find the best way and stick to it --- Its impossible to have more then 1 tactic that works 100% all the time , but there will be some that are close enough
    <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    that is what v1.2 is for... <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif'><!--endemo-->

    but i do agree that there is only a few ways to play...

    if you dont like it... go comm.. go gorge

    (ask first) build sensory, they make GREAT games if every changes their play style

    do a HA rush... or try the first rush ever.. the hmg rush!

    try useing shotgun...

    do something else!
  • XenoMorFXenoMorF Join Date: 2003-04-01 Member: 15113Members, Constellation
    <!--QuoteBegin--Elucid+May 10 2003, 12:15 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Elucid @ May 10 2003, 12:15 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Games only get boring to the ones who play it 24/7 so those people that are complaining about it must have NO life at all. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    so ? better then laughing at people that arnt funny in a pub?!!?


    sorry to burst ya bubble <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'><!--endemo--> <!--emo&:0--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/wow.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wow.gif'><!--endemo--> <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'><!--endemo-->
  • ElucidElucid Join Date: 2002-11-06 Member: 7385Banned
    edited May 2003
    <!--QuoteBegin--Aaron+May 10 2003, 12:18 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Aaron @ May 10 2003, 12:18 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Didn't your mother teach you, "if you don't have something nice to say, don't say anything"?

    Feh. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    If your talking about me you shoud refrain what you are saying, people are putting down one of the best hl mods besides cs probally cause I dont like cs..Im just defending the people who made this game possible, ect so maybe you should think about what your saying buddy.
  • XenoMorFXenoMorF Join Date: 2003-04-01 Member: 15113Members, Constellation
    <!--QuoteBegin--Catpoker+May 10 2003, 12:20 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Catpoker @ May 10 2003, 12:20 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->the diversity of tactics is utter rubbish , there is no such thing.. clans will find the best way and stick to it --- Its impossible to have more then 1 tactic that works 100% all the time , but there will be some that are close enough
    <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    that is what v1.2 is for... <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif'><!--endemo-->

    but i do agree that there is only a few ways to play...

    if you dont like it... go comm.. go gorge

    (ask first) build sensory, they make GREAT games if every changes their play style

    do a HA rush... or try the first rush ever.. the hmg rush!

    try useing shotgun...

    do something else! <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    fraid i done all them <!--emo&:(--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/sad.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='sad.gif'><!--endemo--> yea cloaking first is fun for about 2 seconds, then they HMG and theres no stopping them...cus comm can use the scanner, and u have to hit them 3 times cus they got upgrades ... and then they kill ya easy cus ya aint got carap ITS A BIG CICLE OF CRIES <!--emo&:(--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/sad.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='sad.gif'><!--endemo-->
  • ElucidElucid Join Date: 2002-11-06 Member: 7385Banned
    In my opnion if I was a moderator I would have banned you already for talking so negative about the game.
  • XenoMorFXenoMorF Join Date: 2003-04-01 Member: 15113Members, Constellation
    edited May 2003
    <!--QuoteBegin--Elucid+May 10 2003, 12:20 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Elucid @ May 10 2003, 12:20 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin--Aaron+May 10 2003, 12:18 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Aaron @ May 10 2003, 12:18 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Didn't your mother teach you, "if you don't have something nice to say, don't say anything"?

    Feh. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    If your talking about me you shoud refrain what you are saying, people are putting down one of the best hl mods besides cs probally cause I dont like cs..Im just defending the people who made this game possible, ect so maybe you should think about what your saying buddy. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    i agree: no i dont agree...infact, it is the best HL mod, it owns, it is the best thing thats come to HL and compared to most games it completely smashes them to peices...its a brilliant game, well thought out, not many bugs.. great community - great idea (although copied from StarCraft + AliensVsPredator <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'><!--endemo-->) All im saying is its getting old fast - lets get this straight...

    NS RULES! <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif'><!--endemo-->


    [edit] it was just a long way of saying : HURRY UP v1.1[/edit]
  • ElucidElucid Join Date: 2002-11-06 Member: 7385Banned
    I agree stuff does get old fast, i can understand if you played it for like 2 years or something, but I mean cmon, NS is an awesome game, and has alot of work to do to make it better, but its great, Only reason why I say CS isnt the best is cause all the jerks and hackers that surround it.Sides that in my book NS is number one.
  • XenoMorFXenoMorF Join Date: 2003-04-01 Member: 15113Members, Constellation
    mine too, closely followed by Medal of honor spearhead .....

    its the best FPS out there in my opinion (might not be to some peoples but thats their opinion)
  • ElucidElucid Join Date: 2002-11-06 Member: 7385Banned
    Yeh, a game doesnt have to be brand new like the doom 3 to have good graphics and gameplay.My opnion CS would still pwn doom3 fps wise, cause doom3 its so intense no one will be able to play it but cs, ns ect awesome graphics for a 5 yr old game and you can play it on any system!
  • ZelZel Join Date: 2003-01-27 Member: 12861Members
    <!--QuoteBegin--XenoMorF+May 10 2003, 11:55 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (XenoMorF @ May 10 2003, 11:55 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> just to defend myself here after saying that, lol... i meant it will get teadious just like v1.04 , the diversity of tactics is utter rubbish , there is no such thing.. clans will find the best way and stick to it --- Its impossible to have more then 1 tactic that works 100% all the time , but there will be some that are close enough

    its just a matter of time <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    its that way with every game across the planet. enjoy it while you can, and keep more than one game installed on your computer and it wont seem so bad.
  • XenoMorFXenoMorF Join Date: 2003-04-01 Member: 15113Members, Constellation
    thats why i aint looking forward to HL2 <!--emo&:(--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/sad.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='sad.gif'><!--endemo--> its gonna be the end of good games and be the start of only games with graphics... soon all we gonna be doing is watching movies with flashy graphics called "games" <!--emo&???--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/confused.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='confused.gif'><!--endemo--> <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'><!--endemo-->
  • ElucidElucid Join Date: 2002-11-06 Member: 7385Banned
    <!--QuoteBegin--XenoMorF+May 10 2003, 12:33 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (XenoMorF @ May 10 2003, 12:33 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> thats why i aint looking forward to HL2 <!--emo&:(--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/sad.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='sad.gif'><!--endemo--> its gonna be the end of good games and be the start of only games with graphics... soon all we gonna be doing is watching movies with flashy graphics called "games" <!--emo&???--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/confused.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='confused.gif'><!--endemo--> <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'><!--endemo--> <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    I agree, well Im headin off to work, later all!
  • StakhanovStakhanov Join Date: 2003-03-12 Member: 14448Members
    Play other mods , if you can't have a life... that's what I do personally <!--emo&:0--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/wow.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wow.gif'><!--endemo-->
  • RueRue Join Date: 2002-10-21 Member: 1564Members
    dod 1.0 rocks tho , so im playing NS and it about 50:50 , as for HL2 beging the end of good game , thats what many people though about HL1......
  • AlignAlign Remain Calm Join Date: 2002-11-02 Member: 5216Forum Moderators, Constellation
    edited May 2003
    What? You're saying HL2 will focus too much on graphics and too little on gameplay? Honestly, have you <i>read</i> anything about HL2, or only looked at the pretty screenshots?
    Most blatantly obvious changes: Extremely interactive environment, extremely smart AI.
    Like, you can shoot a wooden support so that the bridge it is holding up crashes down on a whole bunch of enemies, this WITHOUT scripts/func_breakables. And, AI that easy peasy chases you through buildings forever and ever until a crossroad(I suppose, pure guesstimate), and there only because of not knowing which way you went.
  • HayaatHayaat Join Date: 2002-12-12 Member: 10668Members
    yeh, gimme a bag of dum-dums and a carpet shampooer
  • NupiNupi Join Date: 2002-12-16 Member: 10898Members
    Well . Thats why tactical & stratetical change is good when playing, so it dont repeat itself. Probably the biggest reason why some people get bored, is that the same stratetic is used very often like JP/HMG. Its true that most commanders play ns the same way, we need a less used tactic.

    Take a break, take a day, or two to relax <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif'><!--endemo-->. I've played since day one, and havent been bored yet <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif'><!--endemo-->.
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